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Re: Intelligence
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2018, 10:48:58 pm »
Amazing Octopus - Most Intelligent Animal on Earth?


zmwiz Media

Published on Aug 28, 2016

An incredible exploration of one of the ocean's most complex and enigmatic creatures, and a reminder why these beautiful animals should be protected and studied, not served at Sushi restaurants. 

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How has the octopus become so intelligent and capable of thinking in the abstract? Watch fascinating and often hilarious experiments to see just how smart they are.

After this video, you'll never think about the octopus the same.

In this fascinating documentary we get to see how octopuses behave in the wild too. Off the coast of Vancouver Island, underwater divers are watched by a huge octopus - a ghost like creature that lurks until it feels it's safe to emerge and be seen. It's an eerie encounter.

The octopus uses cognitive reasoning to make deductions and understand its environment. It can shape shift, change color and texture on the fly to blend in with its surroundings to become either predator or defend itself from becoming prey.

In one experiment we see an octopus wrap its tentacles around a screw-top jar that has a crab inside it. In slow but determined fashion, the octopus successfully opens the jar to get to its prey. The jar is unlike anything it would encounter in the wild - the octopus has used cognitive reasoning, not instinct, to catch its well-deserved lunch.

The octopus has lived side-by-side with humankind from our earliest days. But it's only now that we're beginning to unravel the animal's secrets, and the extent of its formidable brain-power.

Watch as an octopus slips out of its tank and slithers casually across a concrete floor. Is it making a break for freedom? Not at all. It knows that its prey is just a short distance away in another tank.

As we learn, the octopus can move on land as well as underwater and the little round trip it has taken is not just to get from point A to point B. It's also taking this little detour because it's curious about the world it is living in.

It's hard to believe that this animal is simply a mollusk. As far as his family tree goes, the octopus is more closely related to an oyster or a snail than to any other species of animal.

And yet, as octopuses behave like shape shifters, moving in and out of tiny openings to get their reward, they are working out solutions the way humans do.

They are able to think in the abstract.

Amazingly, with all its powerful traits, the octopus has never become king of the sea. Researchers think that it's because of the female's short life span.

They give up everything, including their life, for their eggs. 

Just how has an animal that is so different from humans become so intelligent?

From Spain to Vancouver Island and finally to Capri, Italy, follow scientists as they try to understand how the octopus has evolved to have such intelligence, even by our standards.


Agelbert NOTE: The high intelligence of the Octopus, a cephalopod, makes a mockery of the Phenetics (overall similarities) based taxonomy that evolutionist Darwin worshipping scientists have relegated it to in the mollusk family. The claim that the short life span has limited its intellectual development is pure speculation. Another cephalopod called the Chambered Nautilus, known as a "living fossil" because it, uh, hasn't "evolved" for millions and millions of years  ;D, is VERY LONG LIVED.

A cephalopod is any member of the molluscan class Cephalopoda such as a squid, octopus or nautilus.

The Chambered Nautilus has not gotten any smarter, despite its longevity.

Unlike most other cephalopods that have a short life span, the chambered nautilus can live 16 or more years.

Chambered nautili are known as living fossils because they have remained virtually unchanged for millions of years.In 1997-98 paleontologists used DNA techniques to compare tissues from today’s animals to those of millions-of-years-old fossil nautiloids, dating to the time when California and Washington State were under the ocean. These studies confirmed the belief that the species Nautilus pompilius is a living fossil. The chambered nautilus (Allonautilus and Nautilus species) is the only living descendent of a group of ocean creatures that thrived in the seas 500 million years ago when the earth’s continents were still forming. It is even older than the dinosaurs!


AG: The high intelligence of the Octopus, a cephalopod, makes a mockery of the Phenetics (overall similarities) based taxonomy that evolutionist Darwin worshipping scientists have relegated it to in the mollusk family.

"Relegated" is your disparaging word, not the words used by "Darwinian worshiping scientists".  Grouping creatures by overall similarities was a good idea, proposed by Linnaeus in 1735 and still in use today.  No one embarrassed if the Linnean taxonomy has to be revised.  At the time the mechanism for HOW offspring came to be like their parents was unknown, but was later shown to be by the mixing of genes in DNA. Techniques for gene mapping have shown the octopus shares a great many genes with other members of the mollusc family, even more with squids and even more amongst the various species of octopus.  No one is embarrassed about the mollusc linkage, and the outrage over Homo being closely related to Pongo, Pan and Gorilla as proposed by Darwin was overcome by the weight of evidence in favour of it, as opposed to the hubris of religious teachings.

Humans don't know (yet) how we acquired curiosity, so obviously we don't know how octopuses acquired it.  But whatever the mechanism, we would expect to find it in both Homo and Octopoda.  It will involve DNA, no doubt.

I am painfully familiar with the incredibly simple minded and reductionist Linnaeus system of Taxonomy, Mr. Pedant. I had "discussions" with my Zoology teacher about the classification of arachnids versus the insects, something I won't go into now. A "good idea" needs to be ejected when it is proven erroneous in many areas. The fact that it is still, largely (the DNA studies have shown many species to be wrongly classified  ;D) in use today is a testament, not to its importance and validity, but to the rigidity of the ivory tower academics backing it. Of course, you are most certain that they know what they are talking about and rushed to the defense of these "paragons of honesty and scientific acumen".

Your comment is interesting. I am allegedly unreasonably "disparaging" in my comment but you, by repeatedly expressing gross general assumptions about taxonomy and species lineage with "no one is embarrassed" or thinks this or that but those mentally stunted by "hubris" filled religious teachings is, of course, not offensive or disparaging. ::) It is clear you did not watch the entire video. If you had, you would not be making such statements.

On the one hand you are "humble" enough to admit that humans "don't know" how we acquired curiosity, but finish your display of "humility" with the professorially pedantic, "no doubt". It must be nice to live in a pretzel world logic of such amazing asurrance about what is, and what is not "known". So, DNA will give us the answer, will it? Deoxyribonucleic acid is in every single cell of living organisms, so I would beg to differ. The answer, if and when they find it, will probably be in the signaling and storage biochemistry of Cephalopod neurons in which a similar matrix pattern to human thought exists, but I'm sure they will check with you first before publishing the paper to make sure Darwininan worship of Evolution Theory is not compromised.

Palloy, you are an amazing fellow. Have a nice day and try watching the full video when you get a chance.
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