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A fossil fueler called 🦖 MKing brought an interesting 2009 U.S. energy use graphic which uses "quads" for the energy units. When I told him the 2009 global energy demand was 18TW, I was not talking about QUADS but let's deal with the 2009 graphic.


About 39% of the 2009 US ENERGY USE (IN QUADS) total was electrical, further "justifying" MKing's "perspective".

So what's the problem with MKing's "irrefutable" logic pointing to Renewable Energy being a DROP IN THE ENERGY BUCKET? (I seem to have had this SAME conversation with Nicole Foss about a year and a half ago...)

1) The US is not the whole planet. In fact our energy "policy" DOES NOT EXIST on a national scale. That puts the fossil fuel corporations in De Facto control of energy policy piggery.

That FACT makes us DIFFERENT and technologically and scientifically BEHIND every other developed country in the WORLD (including fossil fuel loving Russia!) in regard to energy policy and piggery in the light of global warming caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

The U.S. is NOT an example of the global energy trends (I'm CERTAIN MKing is aware of this). Using it as an example shows the deliberate intent to use an extreme of fossil fuel use as the planetary norm to undermine the facts about exponential Renewable Energy growth (when they aren't claiming that Renewable energy growth is LINEAR and therefore will take 500 years or so to replace fossil fuels!) and paint the fossil fuel driven economy as the be all, end all of a workable civilization.

It's quite clever. But it is false because it lacks perspective, not because the facts of the year 2009 for the U.S. are "false"; They are accurate.

However, 2007 to 2009 was the apex of fossil fuel piggery and projections for the U.S.! There was LESS before and LESS after in an increasing downward slope!

You would stare open mouthed if you could see the same pie chart above in 1940. Renewable Energy from hydropower reached 33% of our electrical grid penetration, a percentage we have yet to reach again (but a lot of good people are working on it!).

2) In 2009 the situation in Europe was the antithesis of the one in the U.S. as to Renewable Energy.  MKing was obligated to show the rest of the planet but did not. If we are going to discuss planetary energy use, we need to include the whole ball of wax. 8)

Now let's see what happened AFTER 2009:

Fossil Fueler wet dreams as projected to 2035 when the above graphic was enthusiastically prepared (and shown proudly at THE 🦖 OIL DRUM web site, NO DOUBT! 😈) to make sure us treehugging renewable energy freaks "understood the REAL world".  ::)

Yes, unfortunately, PART of the above is coming to pass because of the Chinese energy explosion. But look what is happening in MKing's example (the U.S.) of fossil fuel energy love (see below).

And with the massive pollution problem in China, you KNOW that China line is peaking and will begin its inexorable descent if China, and the rest of the biosphere too, is to survive this climate mess.

Yes, MKing, I'm aware of the fact that the graph has CO2 emissions, ::)  not energy use. But when you are talking about fossil fuel use, CO2 emissions correlate exactly with burning fossil fuels. Don't try to pretend otherwise.

But your fossil fuel pals are LOATHE to project trends any way but the way they want them to go. THIS IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE PROBLEM.

You scoffed at cost not being germane in the North Sea Platforms because THE PEOPLE, NOT BIG OIL, were made to pay for it. Your "perspective" is that IF you can get away with gaming the costs so YOU don't pay them, you have a viable business model. BULLSHIT!

The mafia has been around for a long, long time because, even they learned, like you fossil fuelers never seem to, that rampant, calloused predation will backfire on you and destroy your business.

Since it hasn't happened to your "business model" YET, you think it won't. Yeah, it's ALL ABOUT DISTORTED AND ARROGANT flawed perspective. But ,hey, you use renewable energy so I guess you have something going for you.  ;)

Dear readers, you saw that fossil fueler wet dream projection from 2007 to 2035 above, right?

Well, these fine fellows have made an adjustment to their prevaricating projections (see below).

Note the attempt to make the energy total in general (and fossil fuel use descent in particular) look like a hiccup! BULLSHIT!

In order to give fossil fuelers a reality check and a bit of heartburn too, I have consulted with the top scientist at the Agelbert Renewable Revolution Institute.  He is a very learned man!  ;D  I see him regularly whenever there is a mirror around.   

Anyway, he used his top secret quantum computer to show what the U.S. energy consumption and breakdown of sources is projected to be from now to 2035

Fossil Fuelers and Nuke Pukes will scoff publicly :P but they will sweat bullets privately!

But this isn't about whether "it would be nice but we just can't swing it due to fossil FOOL corporation power and piggery"; This is a matter of national security and national survival. We DO THIS or we ARE HISTORY, PERIOD. Pass it on. The planet you save may be your own.

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« Last Edit: March 26, 2022, 06:25:23 pm by AGelbert »
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