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We have the ⚡🎍 Power 🌞
« Reply #421 on: June 08, 2021, 12:08:24 pm »

June 6, 2021


By Ashley Curtin

‘We have the Power’ finds US has resources and technology to shift away from 🦕 fossil fuels
The study confirmed the U.S. has enough wind and 🌞 solar resources to meet the country's energy needs.

SNIPPET:

The study titled, We Have the Power: Reaching America’s Potential for Clean, Renewable Energy, concluded that “U.S. solar energy resources have the potential to meet America’s 2020 electricity demand more than 77 times over, and U.S. onshore and offshore wind resources could meet demand 11 times over,” according to EcoWatch. ... ...

According to the study, the four key strategies to build an energy system entirely that runs on renewables includes:

֍ build out renewable energy
֍ modernize the grid
֍ reduce and manage energy use
֍ replace direct use of fossil fuels with electricity

Time is of the essence. Policymakers must do all they can to accelerate a shift away from fossil fuels to an energy system in which the vast majority of our energy comes from renewable sources like the wind and sun.”

The study said that a transition to renewable energy will immediately help the environmental and public health challenges as well as the climate crisis the U.S. currently faces.

Full article:

https://www.nationofchange.org/2021/06/06/we-have-the-power-finds-us-has-resources-and-technology-to-shift-away-from-fossil-fuels/


 The 🦕🦖 Hydrocarbon 👹 Hellspawn Fossil Fuelers DID THE Clean Energy  Inventions suppressing, Climate Trashing, human health depleting CRIME. Since they have ALWAYS BEEN liars and conscience free crooks 🦀, they are trying to AVOID DOING THE TIME or PAYING THE FINE!  Don't let them get away with it! Pass it on! 
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Global decarbonisation: Lies, damn 🦕😈 lies, and statistics?
Jul 4, 2021


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Decarbonisation is the only way out of our climate emergency. The quicker we do it the less damage we will incur. But just about every mainstream agency and organisation around the world is advising policymakers not to move too quickly away from fossil fuels for fear of disrupting economies and societies. The real world statistics tell a very different story though, and now new research is suggesting we should actually be far bolder in our move towards renewable power.   

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Re: The Big Picture of Renewable Energy Growth
« Reply #423 on: July 21, 2021, 01:40:52 pm »


July 21, 2021


Jobs in the renewable energy and battery-related sectors have been much more resilient throughout the pandemic compared to the overall energy sector, according to the DOE's annual report. One in 10 U.S. energy workers lost their jobs in 2020 — oil and gas sectors lost the most jobs despite the billions in bailouts and substantial payouts to already wealthy executives. However, the wind energy employment grew by nearly 2% while jobs in the electric and hybrid-electric vehicle sectors grew by 8% and 6%.
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Reach For The Sun — New Report From Carbon Tracker

August 2, 2021 By David Waterworth

SNIPPETS:

With a myriad of very colorful charts, a new report from Carbon Tracker makes the point that the majority of new global generating power will be wind and solar. The authors predict a leapfrog effect in countries where there is no developed power grid. As power needs increase, people will simply install low-cost solar panels and a battery and will be self-sufficient. ... ...

📢 Peak 🦕 fossil fuel generation occurred in 2018 . Almost 90% of electricity demand growth from now till 2040 will come from the emerging markets. ... ...

All the 👿🦖 barriers to change are soluble — countries further along the continuum of change have already solved them and are willing to share technology, expertise, and capital. The 😈🦖 corruption that exists in some states will be overcome by the economics. Domestic policy is the key.

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https://cleantechnica.com/2021/08/02/reach-for-the-sun-new-report-from-carbon-tracker/
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Definitive Guide To Combating Climate Change
« Reply #425 on: August 09, 2021, 07:48:10 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: Originially posted July 29, 2017, this continues to be required reading for humans that care about humanity. Please pass it on to your friends and family.


“Drawdown” — The Definitive Guide To Combating Climate Change

July 29th, 2017 by Steve Hanley

SNIPPET:

Drawdown Surprises  :o

We here at CleanTechnica, we focus heavily on the electrification of the transportation sector. That is critically important, of course, but would you care to guess what the one area is that we as a people have total control over and that has the potential to keep more carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere than making every car and truck on the planet run on electricity?

#1 is something we have touched on here only briefly — refrigerant management. Read more about it on page 164. The authors estimate that this one area could keep nearly 90 gigatons of carbon dioxide from entering the atmosphere. Electric cars? About 4 gigatons.  :P

Here are the other 9 items on the Top 10 list and their carbon reduction potential:

Wind Turbines (Onshore) — 84.60 gigatons
Reduced Food Waste — 70.53 gigatons
Plant-rich diet — 66.11 gigatons
Tropical Forests — 61.23 gigatons
Educating Girls    — 59.60 gigatons
Family Planning — 59.60 gigatons
Solar Farms — 36.90 gigatons
Silvopasture — 31.19 gigatons
Rooftop Solar — 24.60 gigatons


There are 80 items on the list. Total cost if all were fully implemented? $27.4 trillion. That’s a lot of cash, right?

However will we pay for all that?
??? 
With savings, people — or deferred costs. The authors estimated total economic savings at just under $74 trillion.


Deferred Gratification

The trick, of course, is that the costs come up front. The savings often come later. Human beings seem genetically incapable of making hard choices today that will have extraordinary benefits later. Deferred gratification could be the death knell for the capitalist model prevalent in most countries today.

Pie-in-the-sky projections about future savings are discounted. Either they are treated as irrelevant or derided as #FakeNews.

The world operates on what I like to call the Wimpy Theory. Wimpy was a character in Popeye cartoons (some of you may be old enough to remember watching cartoons on television on Saturday mornings). Wimpy had one line that he used all the time. It went like this: “I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a cheeseburger today.” It’s the “kick the can down the road” theory of global management and it will kill us all if we don’t stop — all except the lucky few who can escape to Mars aboard Elon Musk’s magic carpet.  ::)


Full article:
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/07/29/drawdown-definitive-guide-combating-climate-change/

Agelbert NOTE: I have a couple of things to say.

First of all, the contents of this article should be required reading for everyone that can read, not just students.

The issue of Deferred Gratification is not new. t is called Common Sense and every religion out there advocates it. Only the SCAM called "greed is good" Capitalism actually labels deferred gratifcation as a "weakness". That explains why Capitalism has been so morally destructive to human society and environmentally disastrous to the biosphere.

Theresa Morris wrote an excellent Essay that fleshes out what we must do. The article here deals with nuts and bolts economic realities. Theresa goes further and explains specifically WHY we should opt for deferred gratification as a matter of ethics, not just survival. I added graphics to underline the importance of her essay and some comments at the end. But the work is hers and it deserves to be broadcast far and wide, just like the article here.

I am posting here two of the graphics I included in my comments on Theresa's Essay in order to explain to readers how TPTB, who are well aware of the dangers inherent in climate change (though they won't admit it), plan to make all the rest of us pay for what those actually DOING over 90%  (about ONE percent of the world population) of the damage are liable for (i.e. environmental damage through government policies subsidizing polluters actively and passively through mendacious happy talk propaganda born of corporate corruption).

IOW, those responsible for the damage plan to spread the cost to further enrich the oligarchic polluters that got us into this mess in the first place. The operative phrase is "Fragmentation of Agency". 

The "Agency" definition here is the responsibility for harm and the consequent responsibility to pay for mitigating said harm. 

"Fragmentation" refers to what percentage of all those with Agency in doing the harm are responsible to pay to mitigate and eventually repair said harm.

Since, according to the U.N., the richest 20% of the world's population uses 80% of the resources, the 'Fragmentation of Agency' pie chart for the damage done to the biosphere should look like this:


The fossil fuel industry, and almost half of the world’s 100 largest companies, want that 'Fragmentation of Agency' pie chart to look like this:

The above graphic is how TPTB polluters will try to pass most of the buck away from themselves and onto we-the-people.

We either take to heart what this Cleantechnica article makes very clear and also adopt the common sense ethical recommendations of visionaries like Theresa Morris, or we are toast.

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Re: The Big Picture of Renewable Energy Growth
« Reply #426 on: September 08, 2021, 02:12:47 pm »
CleanTechnica

September 7, 2021 By Tina Casey

Floating 🌞 Solar Plus 🌊 Wave Energy Smackdown For Fossil Fuels 


A sea monster of troubles is coming for fossil energy stakeholders, in the form of offshore floating solar panels with wind turbines and wave energy, too.


SNIPPETS:

Everybody is talking about a new EU clean power project that pairs floating solar with offshore wind turbines, but they’re missing half the story. Wave energy is also part of the project. The wave part is not getting much attention, probably because wave-to-electricity conversion has fallen behind wind and solar in the renewable energy race. Nevertheless, if all goes according to plan, the waters of the EU will be peppered with wave conversion devices as well as floating solar panels. ... ...

There Had To Be A Green Hydrogen Angle In There Somewhere… 

Full article:

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/09/07/floating-solar-plus-wave-energy-smackdown-for-fossil-fuels/
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Re: The Big Picture of Renewable Energy Growth
« Reply #427 on: September 21, 2021, 01:41:06 pm »


September 20, 2021 By Mike Schuler


ITF: If Done Right, Zero-Carbon Industries Can Be Big Opportunity for Workers, Including Seafarers    

The International Transport Workers’ Federation (ITF) is backing a zero-carbon emissions target for shipping by 2050, saying that the energy transition can bring benefits to workers if done in the right way.

At the launch of the ‘Ocean Stewardship Coalition’ held in New York today, the ITF’s Stephen Cotton, as the newly-appointed labour representative on the board of the United Nations Global Compact, delivered a positive message on the benefits of tackling climate change for workers.

“We have a massive task in front of us, to arrest the climate crisis,” Cotton told business and government leaders, including top CEOs and Prime Ministers.

“But from a labour perspective, if done right, the transition to zero carbon industries can be a big opportunity for workers – for decent pay, for better jobs, and for safer workplaces,” said Cotton. “Let’s be ambitious, but let’s be positive and realistic about what this can mean for workers,” Cotton said.

In Cotton’s first public appearance as a UNGC board member, he also threw union support behind a zero carbon emissions target for shipping by 2050. The industry currently accounts for around 2.5 percent of global emissions – a figure that could be much lower, according to the ITF which represents the world’s seafarers.

“Global emissions targets will not be met without action in shipping. The industry needs to act, and governments need to set firm sectoral targets to reach zero emissions either multilaterally in the IMO or by including shipping as part of their own emissions caps committed to in Paris,” said Cotton.

But he also warned against a rush by the industry to cut emissions without considering the impact of new technologies on its workforce, particularly in relation to health and safety and training.

“A just transition must mean a planet safe to live on, and creating industries that are not only green, but also have safe, decent jobs for generations to come,” Cotton said.

“Workers must be at the table that determines their futures, because to transform our economy to tackle this challenge we need to bring every worker with us. This means workers represented at all levels from the workplace to international meetings like COP. Workers cannot be a climate afterthought.”

https://gcaptain.com/itf-if-done-right-zero-carbon-industries-can-be-big-opportunity-for-workers-including-seafarers/
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Re: The Big Picture of Renewable Energy Growth
« Reply #428 on: September 28, 2021, 02:23:51 pm »

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September 28, 2021

Deniers Accidentally Confirm That Capitalism Stands In The Way Of Climate Solutions


A key plank of climate denial has been and continues to be that climate change is just a pretense for communism, and that climate policies are an assault on capitalism. 

But two posts on Sunday show that, however unintentional, deniers agree that unchecked capitalism is getting in the way of successful climate action. 

A NoTricksZone post by P Gosselin that was reposted to WUWT describes a new documentary called Headwind“21 that exposes how renewable energy projects also have environmental impacts, and that the business behind them are, in the words of a former London banker, “all about money.” 

We’re not going to watch the entire feature-length 92 minute documentary available on YouTube, because even if it were totally 100% accurate in revealing how, as Gosselin describes, it’s all “about corporations making tonnes of money,” it wouldn’t change the fact that we need renewables to replace fossil fuels. The question is obviously how that happens, and as this doc might just show, when capitalism gets its dirty (invisible) hands on something, it doesn’t stay ethically clean for long. 

Any evidence of what a former banker called “systemic corruption” is an indictment of the capitalist system that’s corrupting the rollout of renewables, not the technologies themselves.

Speaking of corrupt capitalists, Robert Bryce published a Forbes column Sunday that also accidentally showed how capitalism is botching renewable deployment, with his list of “317 wind energy rejections the Sierra Club doesn’t want you to see.” 

As something like the evil twin of Sierra Club’s coal-plant-closing Beyond Coal strategy, the fossil fuel industry has been seeding local fights across the country to oppose wind projects, and Bryce wants you to think that these are organic grassroots uprisings that demonstrate that renewables are unpopular. 

But of course they’re not: on average 86% of Americans support funding research into renewables and 77% support expanding wind farms. Instead, the arguments from the column come straight from the fossil fuel industry. For example, the concept of wind turbine sickness, that people experience health ailments as a result of wind turbines causing shadows or air pressure changes or noise issues, has been shown to be spread not by the turbines, but by people warning about how the turbines cause health ailments. It turns out that wind turbine sickness is, per Simon Chapman’s book “a communicated disease” that people mainly catch after hearing fearmongering about from anti-wind activists like Bryce. 

And what cures it? Apparently “those paid to host turbines rarely complain” so Chapman suggests that “the drug ‘money’ may be a powerful preventive.”

Snark aside, the fact is that when impacted communities are brought into an energy project from the start and communities and experts are consulted from the planning stage through the life of the project, and are literally bought into the plan through socialized profits, it’s a lot less likely that any opposition will be successful in stopping it, because it will have already met their (environmental, etc) standards and provided a tangible financial benefit to the community. 

As the energy transition requires a renewable buildout of incredible scale, putting it solely in the hands of the capitalists whose profits-over-public-good approach is what caused climate change in the first place would mean cheap products, hastily installed, and locally opposed for legitimate reasons.

It’s a recipe for disaster


Plus, irony levels would be off the charts if after having opposed climate action because of socialism,  the only criticism about renewables deniers get right is because they’re actually criticising capitalism, and the so-called climate alarmists supposedly pushing for global communism actually end up facilitating a massive capitalist (clean) power generation power grab.
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By John Feffer - October 5, 2021

SOURCE: Tom Dispatch 🕊️


Climate-change transition in the age of the 💰🎩😈 billionaire

A world of solidarity economics or climate profiteering?

SNIPPET:

A rising tide, it was once said, would lift all boats: economic growth would lead to general prosperity. But a “rising tide” now has a different meaning in a climate-changing world. The planet can no longer support that kind of growth, whatever its color.

Full article:
https://www.nationofchange.org/2021/10/05/climate-change-transition-in-the-age-of-the-billionaire/


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October 6, 2021: Across the auto industry, global automakers are staking their future on electric cars. Cities around the world are turning to diverse forms of electrified public transit to cut emissions while improving mobility. Europe’s soaring energy prices underscore the need for more renewables. The U.K. is pursuing 100% clean electricity by 2035. 5 Midwestern governors have joined a bipartisan collaboration to develop a regional EV ⚡ charging network. Despite receiving 💵💰 billions in bailout funds, 😈 major utilities are still cutting power to customers.


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"We must keep investing in wind and solar to have more days when renewables are setting the price," said Lukasz Kolinski, the EU Commission's Head of Renewables & Energy System Integration. "Today's situation underlines that we have to limit our dependence on foreign 🦖 fossil fuels as soon as possible."

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October 5, 2021 By Kelsey Misbrener

FERC’s latest monthly “Energy Infrastructure Update” report
(with data through August 31, 2021)

SNIPPET:

Renewables now provide more than a quarter (25.22%) of total U.S. available installed generating capacity. By comparison, a year ago, their share was only 23.22%. Five years ago, it was 18.39% and a decade earlier it was 14.09%.

Wind and solar alone accounted for 98.52% of the 1,554 MW of new capacity additions in July and August with natural gas providing just 23 MW. Wind is now more than a tenth (10.48%) of the nation’s generating capacity while utility-scale solar has surpassed five percent (5.02%) … and that does not include distributed solar.

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Renewable Baseload Power from a single desert location. Enough for 7 million homes!


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Baseload renewable power is the holy grail of our sustainable energy future and, according to some naysayers, an impossible dream. One UK company begs to differ, and they've just announced a £16 billion project that will be generating 3.6GW of solar, wind and battery capacity in South Morocco for an average of 20 hours a day, transmitted directly into the UK via subsea HVDC cables, by 2027. Could this be the most ambitious renewable energy project yet?
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Re: The Big Picture of Renewable Energy Growth
« Reply #433 on: December 11, 2021, 05:53:52 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: The following discussion took place over the last 4 days. These comments are after a negative story about Hydrogen Gas as a replacement for hydrocarbon fuel based energy by Michael Barnard (Shrinking Hydrogen Demand & Hydrogen Decarbonization Will Have Major Climate Benefits . I am surprised Cleantechnica allowed him to post it.
That said, "No Planet B" and "TSW" did an excellent job of refuting Barnard's erroneous assumptions and projections, which you can read there if you like.
I have posted this discussion here because it relates directly to the BIG picture in Renewable Energy GROWTH, as well as informing readers of who, exactly, is engaging 24/7 in Predatory Delay, no matter how much we-the people suffer from Catastrophic Climate Change (SEE: Mayfield, Kentucky TORNADO DISASTER December 11, 2021) DUE to the continued use of hydrocarbons for fuel.   

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Lee Jay
We currently store and retrieve about 500,000 gigawatt hours worth of natural gas each year for seasonal storage. That's 10,000 years of gigafactory battery output. How are you going to replace that seasonal storage without natural gas or underground storage of hydrogen?

agelbert > Lee Jay 
A hydrocarbon "benefit" numbers guy, eh?
Your numbers are patently false. No, I'm not saying you are a liar; I am saying you are extrapolating incorrectly from present hydrocarbon product use towards the future.
No, I do not expect to convince you that you are wrong. I will let experience teach you that in the next 5 years or so.
In the meantime, enjoy your "natural" (even though the CH4 that comes out of living organisms, NOT the CH4 that comes out of Fracked hydrocarbon polluting wells, is the CH4 that is ACTUALLY NATURAL) gas "bridge" fuel.
Agelbert NOTE: 🦕 Lee Jay's "We are all gonna die without our beloved fossil fuels.
 " baloney post repeated for clarity:
Lee Jay
We currently store and retrieve about 500,000 gigawatt hours worth of natural gas each year for seasonal storage. That's 10,000 years of gigafactory battery output. How are you going to replace that seasonal storage without natural gas or underground storage of hydrogen?

Slobodan Brčin > Lee Jay
Solar (there is always some light during the 24 hours cycle).
Wind (usually wind is moving)
Geothermal (working 24/7)
Tidal power
Rivers hydro
Reverse hydro
Car,home and utility batteries to soak excess of electricity. Energy price balancing based on dynamic price.
Existing nuclear / bah at least it is not CO2 emitter.
UHVDC around the continent/world (sun is always shining and wind is always blowing somewhere).
So why do you think that we need seasonal storages?

Lee Jay > Slobodan Brčin• 3 days ago
Why do you think we don't? We have it now to handle the differences in energy consumption between seasons that fossil fuel extraction can't adjust for (that's availableall the time too, you know). If you do it all with sources, you require huge curtailment. If you do it all with batteries, you require 10,000 years worth of batteries produced by a giga factory. Hydro isn't even 1% big enough. Pumped hydro is the biggest we have and it's less than 1% of what we need. Geographic distribution helps a lot with daily but very little with seasonal.

Slobodan Brčin > Lee Jay • 3 days ago
Again I'm telling you that you do not need batteries or any storage that can store more then few hours of worth of energy just to solve spikes.
Sun is working 24/7 and it is always noon somewhere.
Same with seasons, you always have summer somewhere.
So just move electricity around the world where it is needed.

Lee Jay > Slobodan Brčin • 3 days ago
Spikes is not the problem. The problem is producing, say, 30% less energy than you consume for, say, 4 months (winter).

Slobodan Brčin > Lee Jay • 3 days ago
US 2020 electric energy consumed 3660 billion kWh.
Let us say 10 billion kWh per day.
Let us say that you have at least 5 sunny hours a day in average.
So you need to maintain average power production of 2 billion kW.
Solar panels are ~$0.20 per watt. Let us say that you can install them for $1.00 for easy calculation.
You need like $2 trillion dollars to add PV system capable of covering all existing electricity needs on top of existing production that you already have.
This does not sound much considering how much money is spent on other things and that this solve many problems for people in US and for planet.
So let us subsidize fossil fuel industry (renewably) to the eternity .....

Lee Jay > Slobodan Brčin • 2 days ago • edited
Your overly simplistic analysis assumes solar output and demand are year around constants. They are not. Now do the math correctly assuming actual and seasonal variation in both load and source, add in ongoing efficiency improvements and transitions to new technologies (like heat pumps instead of furnaces) and then integrate to see how much difference there is in the integrated values of source and demand. Then figure out the most economic way to cover that integrated difference. Hint: It's not batteries and it's not over building sources and curtailing.


Slobodan Brčin > Lee Jay • 2 days ago
Only thing that I'm overlooking intentionally since it is not tech problem is willingness to make world power web due to geopolitical crap as TSW mentioned above.
It is easier to peddle electricity around the globe then to move oil or NG.
Build panels/grid on both hemispheres and your seasonal problems are gone.
Build panels/grid around the world and your day/night problems are gone.
If you think small about US as whole world then this can't work.

Lee Jay > Slobodan Brčin• 2 days ago
I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.
The hemispheres are not equal.
Building a global grid is unreasonably uneconomical. For underwater power lines, figure $2,000 per meter per gigawatt. Now do the math for being able to move terawatts of power around the planet to any of hundreds of terminals and see the error of your ways.

agelbert > Lee Jay 
The only sorry one here is you. You are quite consistent in spouting a series of reasons why "we can't do this" and "we can't do that" in support of maintaning a horrendously polluting status quo. Slobodan Brčin, like everybody else out there who actually knows what they are talking about, which excludies you and your fossil fueler liar pals, accepts the fact that we cannot sustain the status quo. Your ad hominem attacks on him show your lack of objectivity in these matters as well as a totally uncalled for lack of respect. You obviously are quite comfortable with the current polluting energy status quo and feel threatened by the ease wih which we could stop burning ALL hydrocarbon fuels, so you resort to insults.
Your "support for Renewable Energy" is a mendacious pretense for the morally bankrupt purpose of convincing readers that Predatory Delay is a "rational" choice in the "real" world. The truth is that your agenda is to help the hydrocarbon fuel pushing crooks and liars further line their pockets with Profit over Planet money. Consequently, you cannot be reasoned with.

Slobodan Brčin > Lee Jay • 2 days ago
I'm sorry for island called America, but to connect Europe,Asia,Africa should not require underwater cables.
Also sorry that you have to pay $2000 per meter, which would be $2 billion per 1000km per gigawatt.
Qinghai-Henan (running 1,500kms, 8GW capacity) $3.79 billion dollars.
Also you need to power deficit of other RE in parts of world that at given moment do not have enough production, and you are powering it from multiple sides and then you have/will have enough battery storage for daily need.

Lee Jay > Slobodan Brčin• 2 days ago
Your math is off by a factor of 1,000. Try again.

Lee Jay > agelbert
If you knew me, you'd laugh at yourself. I've spent my entire career on renewable energy research, a career I decided on when I was 8 years old.

agelbert > Lee Jay 
Talk is cheap, Predatory Delay is (Catastrophic Climate Change) expensive. It is a known fact that the hydrocarbon industry has, for about 4 decades now, paid many bean counters to study the EROEI of Renewables for the purpose of distorting the energy facts so that hydrocarbons appear to have a "higher" EROEI. From the gamed enthalpy numbers of hydrocarbons to the very deliberate exclusion of all the costs to the environment and the health of humans, it has been quite a disinformation ride for the fossil fuelers. Sure, they know energy math. They have to in order to spin it their way with lots of happy talk.
Maybe you are not one of those 🦖 energy 😈  "experts", but your comment was exactly the way they spin facts to support Predatory Delay for the sole purpose of slowing a full transition to a Renewable Energy powered Civilization.

We are out of time for the happy talk fun and games by the Profit Over Planet Hydrocarbon Worshippers.

📢  THE BROWNING OF THE EARTH IS NO JOKE!

We need hydrocarbon fuels like dog needs ticks!


Lee Jay > agelbert
Again, you're clueless.
Just figure out how to do seasonal energy storage without storing hydrogen underground for use in places other than returning the energy to the grid. Try to do it economically.
Good luck.

agelbert > Lee Jay 
More Ad hominem, eh? You are quite consistent in spouting a series of reasons why "we can't do this" and "we can't do that" in support of maintaning a horrendously polluting status quo. Slobodan Brčin, like everybody else out there who actually knows what they are talking about, which excludes you and your fossil fueler liar pals, accepts the fact that we cannot sustain the status quo. Your ad hominem attacks on him, and now towards me, show your lack of objectivity in these matters as well as a totally uncalled for lack of respect. You obviously are quite comfortable with the current polluting energy status quo and feel threatened by the ease with which we could stop burning ALL hydrocarbon fuels, so you resort to insults.
Your "support for Renewable Energy" is a mendacious pretense for the morally bankrupt purpose of convincing readers that Predatory Delay is a "rational" choice in the "real" world. The truth is that your agenda is to help the hydrocarbon fuel pushing crooks and liars further line their pockets with Profit over Planet money. Consequently, you cannot be reasoned with.
But, I'll give you one thing. Your pals in the Oil and Gas Polluters 'R' US know how to corrupt government.


Lee Jay > agelbert
You're dumber than a sack of hammers, you know that?
I do renewable energy research for a living - for my whole career. I've contributed significantly to technology that produces billions of clean, renewable kWh per year. I've never worked a day in support of fossil fuel use.
Now, answer the questions I asked, because I've spent thousands of hours trying to answer them - without fossil fuel use.

agelbert > Lee Jay 
Lee Jay said,  "I've never worked a day in support of fossil fuel use.".
By repeatedlly stating that we "cannot" operate our civilization "economically" without horrendously polluting fracked well methane, you are working right now in support of CONTINUED hydrocarbon fuel use.
If that opinion by you is the result of your renewable energy research career, then you, in effect, do lies about Renewable Energy for a living. 
Your definition of "economically viable" is so lacking in Social Cost of Carbon math as to border on insanity.
How's the "economics" of hydrocarbon fuel use CAUSED Catastrophic Climate Change working for Mayfield, Kentucky, Mr. "Energy expert"? Oh, that is not part of your CH4 EROEI "math"? R-i-i-i-ight.
You are all about "fiduciary duty" to 🦕 corporate bottom lines. That is known as gaming (see: mens rea) hydrocarbon EROEI numbers to exclude the costs you can "socialize" (i.e. stick we-the-people with the health and environmental downsides).     
All that "Social cost of Carbon" biosphere math is not, uh, "relevant", eh? You live in the "real" world. You know, the one who's 🦖 CEOs, with a straight face, calmly state that those hydrocarbons now leaking into the drinking water in Honolulu are "not their problem".  Do you know what drinking even a tiny PPM amount of hydrocarbons in previously potable water does to human health? Probably, but you refuse to admit that is part of the COST of a hydrocarbon fueled civilization.
Which brings us to the point of this discussion. Slobodan Brčin provided reasonable suggestions based on Renewable Energy Technologies to get us permanently off ALL hydrocarbon fuel use. You, basing your allegations on your cherry picked definition of "economical", scoffed and derided. I challenged you and you hardened your position with more Ad hominem and a claim to being an "authority" in Renewable Energy Research. I maintain that, as I said in so many words in my first reply to you, your pro-CH4 energy math is flawed, to put it mildly. I have explained why (cherry picked CH4 EROEI cost exclusions).
NOTE: I have absolutely no problem with ethanol as a fuel during the transition to 100% Renewable Energy. ETHANOL, in an economically sane world not corrupted by hydrocabon government subsidy hand-outs, would be the ideal BRIDGE FUEL, not fracked "natural" (lol!) gas. Spare me all the disinformation on ethanol "negative impacts" to the environment and farm "use for fuel instead of food" peddled by the hydrocarbon hellspawn. It's all baloney. Ethanol has some problems but they are insignificant compared with the problem resulting from methane gas production and use.

Ethanol is, in addition to being a reality based viable bridge fuel, a product with many uses in medicine. Yes, drinking it can eventually kill you, but human vices are not the subject of this discussion.   
Lee Jay said, "Now, answer the questions I asked, because I've spent thousands of hours trying to answer them - without fossil fuel use.".
Now, if I finally have your attention, I will explain, not just why, but how we certainly can replace ALL hydrocarbon based fuels with Renewable Energy Technologies.
You state that hydrogen gas for fuel is "not economically viable" as compared to CH4 because hydrogen gas, a very difficult to store gas, must be stored for several months (at least) for use in winter, like methane is now stored for winter use. That is true only if hydrogen is in the form of a gas. That is not necessary due to other Renewable Energy Technology chemistries that can easily, safely and cheaply store stable chemical compounds (I am NOT talking about the ridiculously energy wasteful negative EROEI CH4 process to get hydrogen that the fossil fuelers love.) that contain hydrogen (e.g. H2O, HHO+NaOH, etc.). The energy required to extract H2 on demand can come from water tanks, large battery banks, wind, solar, tide and geothermal sources. Of course a combination of these technologies must be working together for 24/7 on demand H2 generation. That is certainly not diffcult, though the fossil fuelers keep saying "it can't be done". It can be done and Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute has, for at least TEN YEARS now, explained how that can be done and why the current system is terribly inefficient, from the coal and CH4 grid energy sources to the CH4 and fuel oil furnace uses.   
THIS is a hydrocarbon powered grid:
How can you claim with a straight face that THAT is "sustainable"?
As to the "happy home furnaces" that the hydrocarbon cheerleaders claim are "more efficient" at heating your home than split system heat pumps or electrical resistance heaters/fans powered by electricty from a Renewable Energy powered grid, when you do most of the energy math, even BEFORE you do the biosphere COSTS math, LESS energy is used for this concentrated use of energy flowing through wires from exclusively Renewable Energy Sources.
Mr. Jay, do you know what it costs to maintain a furnace in maintenace costs for the life of said furnace? It's easily $200 a year (low balled estimate not including parts replacement). Now multiply that $200 by about 90% of 140 million homes (as of 2020). Is that in your EROEI CH4 math? NOPE! WHY!!? It SHOULD BE!
And NO, using ONLY electricity to heat and cool a home does NOT "add comparable maintenance costs" to heating and cooling, never mind the price gouging initial cost of a hydrocarbon powered furnace.
Furnaces aren't just inefficent, they malfunction. The malfunction is, granted, a low percentage overall, but the fact is that electrical resitance heating, while resulting annually in some fires that kill people who did not position said heaters properly, are insignificant compared to carbon monoxide and fire caused deaths from hydrocarbon fueled furnaces. Are those COSTS to human health and welfare included in your CH4 EROEI math? NOPE! WHY!!? They SHOULD BE!
I can go ON and ON about how other RE harvesting technology  (e.g. wind, geothermal, tide wind, etc.) can be EASILY made available in base grid size amounts 24//7 by daisy chaining technologiy and computer controlled coordination. This is NOT rocket science. This is NOT that hard to do. The ONLY thing preventing a truly EFFICIENT energy powered civilization is the resistance of the hydrocarbon industry. If you ever decide to plug in to the CH4 EROEI formula all the actual enthalpy inefficiencies of the present use of hydrocarbons plus the Social Cost of using hydrocarbons for fuel, you will agree with the following statement I made several years ago.

"We do not need a 'new' business model for energy because we never had one. What we need, if we wish to avoid extinction, is to plug the environmental and equity costs of energy production and use into our planning and thinking. " -- A.G. Gelbert

J.R.R. Tokien knew what he was talking about...
"The most evil creation ever visited upon mankind is the internal combustion engine." -- Celebrated author of The Lord of the Rings J.R.R. Tokien


The Hydrocarbon Fuel Powered Civilzation "Business Model" is Obsolete, PERIOD!

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”  -  R. Buckminster Fuller
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2021 Year In Review
« Reply #434 on: December 18, 2021, 02:12:22 pm »
CleanTechnica

December 18, 2021 By John Rodgers (Guest contributer)


2021 Year In Review: 5 Stories Of Clean Energy Progress

Originally published by Union of Concerned Scientists, The Equation.

Solar power, onshore wind, offshore wind — clean energy was rolling in 2021. Here’s an update from the Union of Concerned Scientists.

The end of the year can be a fine time for taking stock, and that’s true in the energy space just as in our personal lives. Lots of stories of clean energy progress caught my eye for 2021. Here are five of them — about renewable energy technologies and markets that seem particularly worthy of note and celebration.

1. Solar roars

The year isn’t over, but it’s already clear that it will be another record breaker for US solar. By the end of the third quarter, the country had already chalked up another 16,000 megawatts (MW) of large-scale, commercial, community, and residential solar, according to energy research company Wood Mackenzie (WoodMac). Solar is on pace to far outperform even record-breaking 2020, during which 19,200 MW was installed.

Other metrics of solar’s soaring-ness in 2021: Total US solar installations sailed past the 100,000 MW mark this year. That means there’s enough US solar capacity to generate the equivalent of some 20 million typical households’ electricity use.

And, according to WoodMac, solar accounted for more than half — 54 percent — of new power generating capacity installed in Q1-Q3, Q3 was the first-ever quarter with over 1,000 MW in residential solar installations, and “{o}ne out of every 600 US homeowners is now installing solar each quarter.”


2. Wind soars

Land-based wind in the United States is also having a fine year. Through Q3, installers had stood up another 7,300 MW, according to the American Clean Power Association (ACP). That makes the first three quarters of this year the best ever for US wind. And, as with solar, wind’s strong 2021 performance comes on the heels of a record-breaking 2020.

By the end of Q3, the total for US wind capacity had risen to almost 130,000 MW, or enough to meet well over 40 million households’ electricity needs.


3. Even more offshore

Offshore wind, while still early stages in this country, has also been generating all kinds of positive signs and palpable progress in 2021.

The Biden administration threw some important weight behind offshore wind early on this year with its announcement in March of a goal of 30,000 MW by 2030. That’s more offshore wind capacity than Europe, the world leader, has installed so far, and five times what got installed globally during 2020. It also fits well the amount of offshore wind that states have already committed to; having a willing partner for that in the federal government is key.

The administration has demonstrated that willingness with important progress. That includes getting the first two project proposals through the federal permitting process (off Massachusetts and off Rhode Island/Long Island) and moving other projects into the environmental review stages. The administration has also announced seven new areas that they’ll be assessing for possible offshore wind leasing, off the East, West, and Gulf Coasts.

The progress led to the first groundbreaking (or at least sandshoveling) in November, on Cape Cod. Steel in the water (a ways offshore) should be following soon.


4. Renewables add up

The renewable energy progress in recent years is visible not just in the solar arrays on rooftops and wind turbines in fields, but in the electricity generation numbers.

As of September, generation from wind and solar across all sectors was a stunning 15 percent above the total for the same period in 2020, according to the Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration (EIA). And that’s before all those new megawatts from 2021 have made their presence fully known.

A low year for hydroelectric power has somewhat offset gains in solar and wind, but the EIA is projecting that renewables in total will still account for 20 percent of US electricity supply for 2021, and 22 percent in 2022.

5. Worldwide progress 🦖 

Progress here at home has been echoed in progress abroad, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA), which noted: “Despite rising costs for key materials used to make solar panels and wind turbines, additions of new renewable power capacity this year are forecast to rise to 290 gigawatts (GW) [290,000 MW] in 2021, surpassing the previous all-time high set last year…”

The IEA called out China, India, and Europe, along with the United States, in particular as markets to watch for serious near-term renewables expansion.

Eye on the horizon

It’s important to note progress; it’s also important not to ignore challenges. While December can be a good time for looking back, I’m also keeping an eye on what’s ahead, on what’s likely to keep the momentum in the right direction—and what threatens to push back.

Just a sampling of what’s worthy of attention: What Congress does (the half of Congress that’s actually willing to address climate change head-on) in the very near term via the Build Back Better Act (the budget reconciliation bill) will make a huge difference in the trajectory of clean energy in this country over the next decade. The bouncing-back-from-Covid supply-demand mismatch dynamics that have been hitting across the economy aren’t sparing clean energy. And we need new electric transmission, and electricity market reforms, to make sure we’re as welcoming as possible to all the renewables we’re counting on.

Through it all we need to pay serious attention to how the transition to clean energy happens at all levels and with each technology. We need to focus on how power sector decisions get made, for example. How costs and benefits get shared. How we focus not just on ramping up renewables but on getting rid of the air and water pollution from fossil fuel generation as quickly as possible. On who gets to be part of the solar revolution, and under what conditions. On what kinds of jobs get created and how we make sure we bring along those whose jobs are tied to the old ways of doing things in the energy sector.

We need a rapid transition to clean energy and we need to make sure we do it right, with a focus on people.

It’s a lot to consider, and a lot to do.     

But it’s worth taking a moment to note, and celebrate , the clean energy progress in 2021. Because if we get this right, there’s a whole lot more clean energy where that came from.
https://cleantechnica.com/2021/12/17/2021-year-in-review-5-stories-of-clean-energy-progress/
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