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Title: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 03, 2017, 01:42:47 pm
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Book of Proverbs

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"Proverbs" translates the Hebrew word mashal, but "mashal" has a wider range of meaning than the short catchy sayings implied by the English word. Thus, while roughly half the book is made up of "sayings" of this type, the other half is made up of longer poetic units of various types. These include "instructions" formulated as advice from a teacher or parent addressed to a student or child, dramatic personifications of both Wisdom and Folly, and the "words of the wise" sayings, longer than the Solomonic "sayings" but shorter and more diverse than the "instructions".[7]

The Book of Proverbs (Hebrew: מִשְלֵי, Míshlê (Shlomoh), "Proverbs (of Solomon)") is the second book of the third section (called Writings) of the Hebrew Bible and a book of the Christian Old Testament.[1] When translated into Greek and Latin, the title took on different forms: in the Greek Septuagint (LXX) it became Παροιμίαι Paroimiai ("Proverbs"); in the Latin Vulgate the title was Proverbia, from which the English name is derived.

Proverbs is not merely an anthology but a "collection of collections" relating to a pattern of life which lasted for more than a millennium.[2] It is an example of the Biblical wisdom tradition, and raises questions of values, moral behaviour, the meaning of human life, and right conduct.[3] The repeated theme is that "the fear of God (meaning submission to the will of God) is the beginning of wisdom".[4] Wisdom is praised for her role in creation; God acquired her before all else, and through her he gave order to chaos; and since humans have life and prosperity by conforming to the order of creation, seeking wisdom is the essence and goal of the religious life.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Proverbs

Agelbert NOTE: Great scientists who pioneered the scientific method, unlike many present scientists, who worship at the atheist Darwinian altar, knew that Nature, that complex and magnificently ordered life matrix we observe, admire and totally depend on for our survival, also called the biosphere, must be obeyed. Francis Bacon, a wise man who WAS NOT an atheist, understood the message of Proverbs quite well. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-020617175335.png&hash=4a5c251d405bf9d4b949b9b72f14a0afffb47df7)

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FRANCIS BACON: GOD AND ATHEISM

Sir Francis Bacon was critical in the development of the scientific method, and, thus, being a philosophical/scientific giant, atheists have attempted to recruit him as a supporter of unbelief. Again they do so in vain, as Bacon made his religious views quite clear in some of his works, and they are clearly reflective of Christian beliefs. Ironically, he also expressed his disdain for atheism, as shown below.

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"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy brings about man's mind to religion: for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity."(Bacon, 64)

“They that deny a God destroy man's nobility; for certainly man is of kin to the beasts in his body; and, if he be not of kin to God by his spirit, he is a base and ignoble creature.” (Bacon, 67)

“It is better to have no opinion of God at all, than such an opinion as is unworthy of him: for the one is unbelief the other is contumely; and certainly superstition is the reproach of the Deity.” (Bacon, 68)
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Bacon, F. The Essays of Lord Bacon. London: Longman  and Green Co., 1875.

http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/francis_bacon.htm
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 12, 2017, 12:26:16 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

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The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

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35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew  12:35-37

Enjoy this Country Western style singing of a Psalm David wrote:     (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2Fballoons.gif&hash=a64bb5ff3e76c3e11999996c460fa02de1ee10f7)

https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 13, 2017, 01:35:14 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.katapi.org.uk%2Fimages%2FNature%2FSower300w.jpg&hash=14e0e972f774525b210da50c18bea16476ce9fad)

The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artbible.net%2F2NT%2FREVELATION%2520-%2520VALLOTTON%2520S%2520DRAWINGS%2520....DESSINS%2520D%2520A%2520VALLOTTON%2F20%2520VALLOTTON%252014%252015%2520ANGEL%2520REAPING%2520THE%2520HARVEST.jpg&hash=93bc66586f0934f40836e40f27ec02e4da18bc20)
Enjoy this Country Western style singing of a Psalm David wrote:     (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2Fballoons.gif&hash=a64bb5ff3e76c3e11999996c460fa02de1ee10f7)

https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow

Parable no. 2 (vv. 24-30 the wheat and the tares) and parable no. 7 (the net which catches both good and bad fish) are illustrative of the fact that, as a result of the witnessing of children of the kingdom in this dispensation, there will be both genuine wheat and good fish, as well as tares and bad fish.

Not all who are caught in the net of evangelism are genuinely saved. The unsaved will be made manifest in the Day of Judgment at the consumation of the age.

Neither we nor angels, no matter how hard we try, wil be able to put the devil out of commision until the appointed time. The disciples wanted to pull out the tares planted by the devil, but were told not to do so until harvest time when the tares were going to be uprooted and utterly burned. See Jude v. 9.

Agelbert NOTE: It is one thing to not go out and kill the people you believe are pseudo-Christians dedicated to evil, but that doesn't mean we are not given sufficient discernment to know who they are. I am firmly convinced that Pat Robertson, Vice President Pence (and many other public figures that claim to be "Christians") are in the category of tares and bad fish. You know them by their empathy deficit, despicable, evil, destructive, hateful, war loving, rotten fruit.

Trump gets along great with those hypocrites. Is Trump the same as them?

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As for Trump, he doesn't have the remotest idea of what Christianity is, and never has entertained one single thought of accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, except as a pose to con voters.

To non-believers, the difference between the Trumps and Pences of this world is irrelevant because they both obviously are people dominated by evil desires.

But according to Holy Scripture, the Trumps of this world, who never even looked at the seed of the Gospel or were never caught in the Gospel net of sound doctrine, are less guilty than people like Pence, Gorsuch, etc. et al, who drive potential converts to Christianity away with their in-your-face greed, lack of compassion, racism and bigotry while they simultaneously and shamelessly parade their sanctimonious guise of "Christian" beliefs.(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_9HT4xZyDmh4%2FTOHhxzA0wLI%2FAAAAAAAAEUk%2FoeHDS2cfxWQ%2Fs200%2FSmiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg&hash=13281f1944b60773bf12b29387b70be77cc1fe16) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opednews.com%2Fpopulum%2Fuploaded%2Fwemeantwell-23439-20130307-234.jpg&hash=5d94476d7e46b55b11262b914d406946bde61c41)

Judgment begins in the House of the Lord.

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17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? - 1 Peter 4:17 KJV

Continued tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 14, 2017, 01:17:04 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.katapi.org.uk%2Fimages%2FNature%2FSower300w.jpg&hash=14e0e972f774525b210da50c18bea16476ce9fad)

The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artbible.net%2F2NT%2FREVELATION%2520-%2520VALLOTTON%2520S%2520DRAWINGS%2520....DESSINS%2520D%2520A%2520VALLOTTON%2F20%2520VALLOTTON%252014%252015%2520ANGEL%2520REAPING%2520THE%2520HARVEST.jpg&hash=93bc66586f0934f40836e40f27ec02e4da18bc20)
Enjoy this Country Western style singing of a Psalm David wrote:     (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2Fballoons.gif&hash=a64bb5ff3e76c3e11999996c460fa02de1ee10f7)

https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow
Parable no. 2 (vv. 24-30 the wheat and the tares) and parable no. 7 (the net which catches both good and bad fish) are illustrative of the fact that, as a result of the witnessing of children of the kingdom in this dispensation, there will be both genuine wheat and good fish, as well as tares and bad fish.

Not all who are caught in the net of evangelism are genuinely saved. The unsaved will be made manifest in the Day of Judgment at the consumation of the age.

Neither we nor angels, no matter how hard we try, wil be able to put the devil out of commision until the appointed time. The disciples wanted to pull out the tares planted by the devil, but were told not to do so until harvest time when the tares were going to be uprooted and utterly burned. See Jude v. 9.

Agelbert NOTE: It is one thing to not go out and kill the people you believe are pseudo-Christians dedicated to evil, but that doesn't mean we are not given sufficient discernment to know who they are. I am firmly convinced that Pat Robertson, Vice President Pence (and many other public figures that claim to be "Christians") are in the category of tares and bad fish. You know them by their empathy deficit, despicable, evil, destructive, hateful, war loving, rotten fruit.

Trump gets along great with those hypocrites. Is Trump the same as them?

(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-040817140651.png&hash=c43dc47dbb4ef892fb7c5680dba982b56fdad700)

As for Trump, he doesn't have the remotest idea of what Christianity is, and never has entertained one single thought of accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, except as a pose to con voters.

To non-believers, the difference between the Trumps and Pences of this world is irrelevant because they both obviously are people dominated by evil desires.

But according to Holy Scripture, the Trumps of this world, who never even looked at the seed of the Gospel or were never caught in the Gospel net of sound doctrine, are less guilty than people like Pence, Gorsuch, etc. et al, who drive potential converts to Christianity away with their in-your-face greed, lack of compassion, racism and bigotry while they simultaneously and shamelessly parade their sanctimonious guise of "Christian" beliefs.(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_9HT4xZyDmh4%2FTOHhxzA0wLI%2FAAAAAAAAEUk%2FoeHDS2cfxWQ%2Fs200%2FSmiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg&hash=13281f1944b60773bf12b29387b70be77cc1fe16) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opednews.com%2Fpopulum%2Fuploaded%2Fwemeantwell-23439-20130307-234.jpg&hash=5d94476d7e46b55b11262b914d406946bde61c41)

Judgment begins in the House of the Lord.

Continued tomorrow

In parable no. 3 (vv, 31,32), we have a mustard seed which is the smallest of the seeds taking itself an unnatural growth. Many confuse this parable with the often quoted "Faith as a mustard seed" teaching by Christ. Faith as a mustard seed is a good thing worthy of being sought out. But the parable of the kingdom, as related to a mustard seed's growth, is a prophecy of the corruption of the Church when it becomes unnaturally large.


 The tremendous growth of a tiny mustard seed to a plant nearly 12 feet tall is a metaphor for the secularization of the Christian Church. Christ never meant His Church to wield organizational power.

Bigness is unnatural in the kingdom of God but Christ told us what to expect. In these parables we have the history of the witness of the children of the kingdom foretold, just as in Rev. 2-3 the history of the church is foretold.

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The birds of the air are a metaphor for evil, just as they are in the parable of the sower.

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See Rev. 18 where a false church is called Babylon. God's genuine people are admonished to separate themselves from this church (Rev. 18:4).

Continued Tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 15, 2017, 01:23:21 pm
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Continued from the previous post on this thread:

Parable no. 4 ( Matthew 13:33) about the hidden yeast represents the subtle influence of evil (the yeast) in the bread. In spite of the onfluence of the yeast, the bread is still useful for feeding and nourishment.
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The metaphor of bread containing yeast (notice that leavened bread grows LARGE while unleavened bread does not) represents the Church influenced by evil.

Some use this parable to justify pointing at the mainstream nominally Christan Church as the tainted, but still most important, source of the spiritual food and strength of Christ in the world. That is an erroneous, and altogether too modern mainstream church self serving, assumption. This parable clearly points to a remnant within, but by no means excluding the remnant without, the Church that together constitutes the Spiritual Body of Christ (i.e. Christ's Church on earth). The tremendous expansion of bread when it contains yeast is a metaphor for the secularization of the Christian Church. Christ never meant His Church to wield organizational power. Bigness is unnatural in the kingdom of God but Christ told us what to expect.

The Body of Christ is certainly not limited to the organized Church.

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In fact, in these dark times, I believe a greater part of the Body of Christ exists outside the organized Church "bread" hampered by the evil "yeast" than within it. Christ did not actually used the word "mix" in regard to the yeast; He used the word (when translated to Greek) "krypto", which means, "to hide or conceal". 

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If you are in a Church where the yeast has taken over, I am certain that Christ does not want you there. These churches prosper economically, grow massively and gain respect and approval from the secular government they serve. 

If you can manage to not get thrown out, even when you call out the behavior of the "yeast" in that Church, then stay. But if you are coerced to applaud a corrupted, prospertiy preaching, war loving, flag worshipping Orwellian version of Christ's teachings (by remaining silent before organizational church false doctrine), staying puts your Salvation in jeopardy.

The people in those yeast leavened organizational churches have gained the world, only to lose their soul. Tell them why you are leaving, pray for them and flee!

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Continued tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 16, 2017, 02:23:03 pm
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Continued from the previous post (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/general-discussion/the-wisdom-of-the-books-of-the-bible/msg7712/#msg7712) on Matthew 13:1-58

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Parable no. 5 (v. 44), the hidden treasure found in the field, is a metaphor for the people in the world in whom Christ establishes His kingdom. In order to possess them, He gave His own life. He hides this treasure, God's redeemed saints, in the world until He redeems or purchases the whole world when He will come again to liberate not only the believer within the world but the world itself (Rom. 8:19-26; Rev. 21).


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Parable no. 6 (vv, 45-46) is similar to the fifth parable, with the pearl symbolizing the sinner. The pearl at its heart is a grain of hard and lifeless sand, even as the sinner is dead in his sins and trespasses.

But when the sand comes in touch with the living organism, the oyster, the sand becomes transformed into a pearl. As a result of this contact, it becomes a thing of exquisite beauty and precious indeed.

Thus, the precious pearls in the world are the sinners who, because of having become absorbed into the Spiritual Body of Jesus Christ, have become His kingdom (Rev. 1:6). For this to be accomplished, Jesus Christ had to sacrifice His own life, but He arose from the dead to be forever the living organism in whom we dwell.

The hair splitters out there might argue that the oyster is simply responding to an irritant by covering that irritating particle with the same type of exquisite Calcium Carbonate (i.e. mother of pearl) that said oyster uses to build its own shell, as these bivalves are DNA programmed to do.

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A pearl is created in the mantle of a mollusk when an irritant particle is surrounded by layers of nacre. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bivalvia) Although most bivalves can create pearls, oysters in the family Pteriidae and freshwater mussels in the families Unionidae and Margaritiferidae are the main source of commercially available pearls because the calcareous concretions produced by most other species have no lustre. 

As a result of the oyster's biological immunological response, a pearl is formed. Also, the irritating particle is not necessarily a grain of sand, as oysters often simply push most grains of sand out of their shell.

True, the oyster is certainly not celebrating the presence of an irritant, but the point is that something of exquisite value is formed from something lacking value. 

Furthermore, the fact is that an irritating particle (most naturally-occuring pearls are formed around a tenacious parasite) is an appropriate metaphor for a sinner. The parasite's modus vivendi is an appropriate analogy for evil caused spiritual death, even more so than the lifeless grain of sand. As the parasite is encased, it dies and a beautiful pearl replaces it.

In addition, the shell that protects the pearl as it is being formed is an excellent analogy for Christ's protection while we grow spiritually. Also, the fact that pearls are only produced by oysters in unpolluted, pristine water is analogous to spiritual protection beyond the shell itself.

Finally, the oyster, because it suffers to produce that pearl, is an appropriate symbol of Christ's suffering to redeem us from evil. 

So, though all metaphors and analogies have their limits, the parables of the buried treasure and the pearl evidence the boundless love and compassion that Christ has for us in suffering for us and in caring for us while we grow spiritually (by hiding us to protect us from spiritual harm).   

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 18, 2017, 09:59:34 pm
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Continued from the previous post (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/general-discussion/the-wisdom-of-the-books-of-the-bible/msg7721/#msg7721) on Matthew 13:1-58

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Parable no. 7 (Matthew 13:47-50 KJV) about the net represents the fishwermen or sons of the kingdom in the sea of humanity. They catch fish which prove to be both good and bad, edible and inedible. This is similar to parable no. 2 about the wheat and the tares.

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Matthew 13:30 KJV Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.



The separation ultimately will be done by the angels and not the believers down here. In this dispensation, the genuine and the hypocrite, true believer and the fraud, will jointly inhabit the world until God's appointed time.

Matthew 13:47-50 KJV

47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:

48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,



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50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


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Last parable in this teaching tomorrow:
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 20, 2017, 06:23:41 pm
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Final post on Matthew 13:1-58 (continued from the previous post (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/general-discussion/the-wisdom-of-the-books-of-the-bible/msg7725/#msg7725)).

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In parable no. 8 (Matthew 13:52 KJV), we have the execution of the responsibility of the sons of the kingdom to accomplish their work through sacrifice.

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The believer's treasures have to be spent so that the Gospel can be preached in this generation.


The disciples asked Christ why He taught using parables. His answer (Matthew 13:10-17) reveals a hard truth that many nominal Christians out there do not want to hear. Those are the "Christians" who prefer to view Jesus Christ's work as a free lunch providing sinners the "grace" (i.e. "It's under the blood so let's party." (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.desismileys.com%2Fsmileys%2Fdesismileys_2932.gif&hash=0eaec4791a5825821998245e7fcd7744b56557fe)) to get to heaven regardless of their refusal to make daily Holy Spirit guided efforts to avoid being willingly enslaved to whatever sin the natural man desires.   (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-200714183337.bmp&hash=fd5a6df63c32bd65dda7b6d93e788647ca3829df)

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The passages in Matthew 13:10-17, along with Mark 4:10-12, are some of the most difficult sayings of the Lord Jesus. The clue to understanding is found in the correct translation of a Greek word, mēpote (Mt 13:15; Mk. 4:12), usually translated "lest." However,it should be translated as a suppositional particle, "if perhaps."

Christ's reasoning was this,
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"If I speak plainly to these people knowing they are going to continue to reject what I say to them, their understanding of will increase their guilt. They would be rejecting not what they do not understand, but what they do understand. If I speak to them in parables, and they do not understand what I am saying, then their rejection is based on their lack of understanding and it will diminish their guilt. Their guilt is not based upon whether they understand or not, but on their rejection of God and Me, not because of what I say, but because of what I am, which should have been clear enought to them."

It is inherent in the entire teaching of the Bible that God will not hold us responsible for what we do not know or understand, but for what we do know and understand (Romans 2:12-20; 4:15). The nonunderstanding of some of the words of Christ in reality alleviates unbelievers of their guilt for the rejection of Jesus Christ. Every human on earth has an inner consciousness of God's requirement of him (Rom. 2:15; John 1:9).

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As one knows and understands more, his responsibility increases proportionately. This applies to everyone, many in the degree of their punishment in hell (yes readers, there ARE DEGREES of punishment in hell, just as there is a hierarchy of reward in heaven), and the remnant in the degree of their heavenly reward.

Hiding the meaning of the depths of God by Jesus Christ to unbelievers is an act of mercifulness toward them in reducing their comprehension of His words.

Yes, Christ is merciful, but He is not now, or ever was, wishy washy about sin and the existence of Heaven and Hell, as well as who would be sent to one of those two places. It wasn't some "fire and brimstone Old Testament fundamentalist preacher whacko" that said the following, it was the Lord of Creation, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Matthew 13:41-43 KJV

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


After Christ explained the paraples to His disciples, He said:

Matthew 13:51 KJV

51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.


After this tremendous teaching spree by Christ, you would think that the remaining verses would  document evidence of a subsequent great spiritual victory, but the exact reverse is what happened. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-120716190938.png&hash=01feab1c7345a4e98764e0f9d24b2d69171b93c2)

Matthew 13:53-58 KJV

53 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence.

54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.


In closing, let me say that when I read these passages I understand more clearly why Jesus was known as the Man of Sorrows. It's not just that He knew His destiny; it's the in-your-face unbelief of so much family around Him that must have weighed heavily on Him.

See that your unbelief does not limit what Christ does in your life. Repent of your sins, ask God to forgive you, and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

If you believe you are a Christian but can sin all you wish, you have never been anything but a fraud.

Any person who has never heard a word about the Gospel of Jesus Christ has  a greater opportunity to shine like the sun than you. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.desismileys.com%2Fsmileys%2Fdesismileys_6869.gif&hash=f94938471d343a09155d1f60eefacdb2ceab2457)

Christanity is not a get out of hell free card; it's a call from our Creator to be the person He wants us to be in this valley of tears. The Grace our Lord Jesus Christ obtained for us by His Sacrifice on the Cross does not absolve us of our responsiblity to respect others as we respect ourselves.

May God Bless you by granting you the wisdom to do the right thing.
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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 28, 2017, 06:06:03 pm
Medieval Gospel Commentary, lost for 1500 years :o – now translated and online  (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.cdn2.123rf.com%2F168nwm%2Flenm%2Flenm1201%2Flenm120100200%2F12107060-illustration-of-a-smiley-giving-a-thumbs-up.jpg&hash=2046bc6d662e09d3014a2c404a2af6ba17f8217c)
 

AUGUST 23, 2017 BY MEDIEVALISTS.NET

SNIPPET:

The earliest Latin Commentary on the Gospels, lost for over 1500 years, has been rediscovered and made available in English for the first time, thanks to research from the University of Birmingham.

https://youtu.be/aTNFq-8544I


“This sheds new light on the way the Gospels were read and understood in the early Church, in particular the symbolic reading of the text known as ‘allegorical exegesis’. There are also moments of insight into the lives of fourth-century Italian Christians, as when the bishop uses a walnut as an image of the four Gospels or holds up a Roman coin as a symbol of the Trinity.’

The English translation, produced as part of the COMPAUL project funded by the European Research Council, is available online as a free, open-access download.

http://www.medievalists.net/2017/08/medieval-gospel-commentary-lost-1500-years-now-translated-online/
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on December 05, 2017, 01:50:57 pm
Agelbert NOTE: Although now we think of the end of things and massive destruction when this word is used, the word "Apocalypse" actually means "Revelation". 

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The ancient narrative describes the secret teachings of Jesus to his brother James, in which Jesus reveals information about the heavenly realm(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2F19.gif&hash=3f9f2fc2285bc756137e21463bc2a4c420b15ac3) and future events, including James’ inevitable death.

Early medieval writings of the First Apocalypse of James discovered

DECEMBER 4, 2017 BY MEDIEVALISTS.NET

The first-known original Greek copy of an early Christian writing describing Jesus’ secret teachings to his brother James has been discovered at Oxford University by scholars from The University of Texas at Austin.

A page from the Coptic translation of the First Apocalypse of James from the Coptic Museum in Cairo, Egypt. Digitized by Claremont College. Photo credit: Nag Hammadi Library, Oxford University. (at article link)

To date, only a small number of texts from the Nag Hammadi library — a collection of 13 Coptic Gnostic books discovered in 1945 in Upper Egypt — have been found in Greek, their original language of composition. But earlier this year, UT Austin religious studies scholars Geoffrey Smith and Brent Landau added to the list with their discovery of several fifth- or sixth-century Greek fragments of the First Apocalypse of James, which was thought to have been preserved only in its Coptic translations until now.

“To say that we were excited once we realized what we’d found is an understatement,” said Smith, an assistant professor of religious studies. “We never suspected that Greek fragments of the First Apocalypse of James survived from antiquity. But there they were, right in front of us.”

The ancient narrative describes the secret teachings of Jesus to his brother James, in which Jesus reveals information about the heavenly realm and future events, including James’ inevitable death.

“The text supplements the biblical account of Jesus’ life and ministry by allowing us access to conversations that purportedly took place between Jesus and his brother, James — secret teachings that allowed James to be a good teacher after Jesus’ death,” Smith said.

Such apocryphal writings, Smith said, would have fallen outside the canonical boundaries set by Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, in his “Easter letter of 367” that defined the 27-book New Testament: “No one may add to them, and nothing may be taken away from them.”

With its neat, uniform handwriting and words separated into syllables, the original manuscript was probably a teacher’s model used to help students learn to read and write, Smith and Landau said.

“The scribe has divided most of the text into syllables by using mid-dots. Such divisions are very uncommon in ancient manuscripts, but they do show up frequently in manuscripts that were used in educational contexts,” said Landau, a lecturer in the UT Austin Department of Religious Studies.

The teacher who produced this manuscript must have “had a particular affinity for the text,” Landau said. It does not appear to be a brief excerpt from the text, as was common in school exercises, but rather a complete copy of this forbidden ancient writing.

Smith and Landau announced the discovery last month during the Annual Meeting of the Society of Biblical Literature and are working to publish their preliminary findings in the Greco Roman Memoirs series of the Oxyrhynchus Papyri.

http://www.medievalists.net/2017/12/early-medieval-writings-first-apocalypse-james-discovered/
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on December 22, 2017, 08:54:35 pm
To those Mammon worshipping relatives who colluded and conspired for several years, with malice aforethought, to methodically defraud me of the inheritance I was due from my parents:

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Proverbs 18:19  A brother wronged is more unyielding than a fortified city; disputes are like the barred gates of a citadel.

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Pulpit Commentary

Verse 19. - A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city. Something must be supplied on which the comparative notion min, "than," depends. So we may understand "resists more," or something similar. A brother or a once close friend, when injured or deceived, becomes a potent and irreconcilable enemy. The idea of the preceding verses is carried on, and the primary thought is still concerning lawsuits and matters brought before a judge. This is shown in the second clause by the use of the word "contentions" (midyanim). And their contentions are like the bars of a castle. They close the door against reconciliation, shut the heart against all feeling of tenderness. True it is, Ξαλεποὶ πόλεμοι ἀδελφῶν (Eurip., 'Fragm.'). And again, 'Iph. Aul.,' 376 -

Δεινὸν κασιγήτοισι γίγνεσθαι λόγους
Μάχας θ ὅταν ποτ ἐμπέσωσιν εἰς ἔριν.
Aristotle also writes thus ('De Republ.,' 7:7): "If men receive no return from those to whom they have shown kindness, they deem themselves, not only defrauded of due gratitude, but actually injured. Whence it is said, 'Bitter are the quarrels of friends;' and, 'Those who love beyond measure also hate beyond measure.'" An English maxim gloomily decides, "Friendship once injured is forever lost." Pliny ('Hist. Nat.,' 37:4), "Ut adamas, si frangi contingat malleis, in minutissimas dissidit crustas, adeo ut vix oculis cerni queant: ita arctissima necessitudo, si quando contingat dirimi, in summam vertitur simultatem, et ex arctissimis foederibus, si semel rumpantur, maxima nascuntur dissidia." Ecclus. 6:9, "There is a friend, who being turned to enmity will also discover thy disgraceful strife," i.e. will disclose the quarrel which according to his representation will redound to thy discredit. The last clause is rendered in the Vulgate. Et judicia quasi vectes urbium; where judicia means "lawsuits," legal disputes; these bar out friendship.

For the pseudo-Christian Mammon worshippers, it is oh, so convenient, to brazenly claim the brother they perversely harmed economically, while defaming him as a matter of empathy deficit disordered routine, should forgive them and move on because that's what a "Christian" must do.

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But, but, what about the Lord's Prayer and the request to have our trespasses forgiven, as we forgive those who trespass against us? Isn't that a conditional statement? Doesn't that mean our trespasses will not be forgiven unless we forgive any and all trespasses against us?

Nope. We are not to be bitter and we are not to take revenge, but we certainly are not to pretend the offense did not occur. The "forgive and forget" notion is an even greater trespass because, unconditional forgiveness (i.e. no repercussions for the trespass) encourages MORE of the original trespass!

The forgiving we engage in with the Lord's prayer is an act of acceptance that God is a Just Judge and has the full picture on 'who did what' that we will never be privy to in this life.

This does not mean we give the "benefit of the doubt" to a blatant trespass. If that was true, then Jesus would NOT have said what He quite clearly said in Matthew 18:17 (see below) and also in the instructions given to his Apostles (Luke 9:5) when they were refused friendly hospitality (There are several other Scriptures on this issue, but I will limit myself to just the two dicussed here).

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Luke 9:5 (KJV)
5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

The Mammon worshippers immediately quote scripture about "Do not judge, lest ye be judged". This a deliberate Orwellian distortion of the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

To begin with, the ones, in my case, who DID the sinful JUDGING are the ones who sinned against their brother by entering into a conspiracy to defraud their brother of his inheritance with the help of corrupt Judges, Banking officials and Court auction and "mediation" (see Orwell) officials. They DECIDED (with the cooperation of my father) that I was not "worthy" of the inheritance. IOW, they JUDGED me, and knowing the law was on my side, deliberately proceeded, once their decision (i.e. cheap rationalization) to defraud me was agreed on, to game the Legal system to achieve their goal.

When I learned of this attempt to defraud me, I simply pointed out to the Court (and later on to the FBI) that this was a crime of financial fraud. I did not "judge" anybody by stating the truth; I did what any Christian is obligated to do when he learns of a fraud; defend the truth and expose the lie.

I had warned my family members, over the phone, on more than one occasion, NOT to engage in fraud against my person. They, of course, said they would never do anything like that but they could "not control" one of my brothers and my "father". That was a lie when they said it and I told them so. They stopped direct communication except for occasional threats to my person (My oldest sister said that the brother running the inheritance "operation" said there were "too many" heirs in a very strange tone of voice over the phone in a conference call) and to my economic well being (My oldest sister mendaciously claimed I would have to pay ALL the legal fees if they were "forced" to sue me), followed shortly thereafter (because I did not bend to their ex-curia demands) by the legal documents.

Jesus Christ was quite clear about that. He said that IF a brother sins against you, you are to tell them about it and ask them to repent. IF said brother or sister REFUSES to repent, or claims they do "repent" without making absolutely any effort to make restitution (at LEAST 2 fold for the injury), then you are to no longer associate with them, PERIOD.

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Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

God will NOT forgive sin if there is no honest attempt at making RESTITUTION. WHY? Because there is no genuine repentence if there is no restitution.

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I may be a poor old washed up failure economically, but I am still a Christian and, consequently, cannot countenance hypocrisy.

Beyond these occasional posts, that I have no idea whether anyone in my family reads, which I post so others may learn of my experiences, direct communication with my brothers and sisters is not going to happen. My father died at the ripe old age of 96 back in 2008. One of the ringleaders of the fraud tried repeatedly to get me to sue my father. I refused. But it didn't matter. The brother ringleader just wanted to turn my father totally against me. That was accomplished when I told the truth in motions presented (filed) to the the court, in defense of the truth, when my father and my siblings (all 6 of them) sued me.

Of course I am not going to be bitter about having experienced this legal travesty at the hand of my brothers and sisters. They are the ones in the hot seat, not me. They are the ones who refuse to repent. They are the ones who will have to explain why the poorest member of their family was not worthy of being treated equally by them and why they, particularly the ones among them that call themselves "Christians", entered into a criminal conspiracy in which they willingly agreed to be accesories to the crime of financial fraud.

As far as the world is concerned, they got away with it. The FBI thanked me for the info and I haven't heard from them since (years have passed). The Bank Corrupted Court sided with them and the fake mediation and the fake foreclosure and the fake auction took place just as they had planned it from the start.

May God have mercy on my corrupt relatives. I hope they all manage to genuinely repent (i.e. make at least 2 fold restitution) of their trespass against God (all trespasses against people are, in the final analysis, against God) before they leave this valley of tears. Because, if they don't, the Holy Scriptures make it quite clear that God won't cut them any slack whatsoever.

     
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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on May 10, 2018, 06:01:59 pm


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https://youtu.be/9i5JBmZg69Q
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 06, 2018, 08:58:52 pm
Eddie said:
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America doesn't have poor people. We have people who are waiting on the Lotto to make them rich.

I resemble that remark. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-130418202709.png&hash=7503265ec59e4c28d735afb762bc39f4674bd838) I may have a small pension that keeps my wife and I just above the poverty level in our 980 sq.' manufactured home, being reasonably independent and decently clothed and fed due to the frugality my wife and I practice, but nobody would call us middlle class or above. Yes, that isn't the "poor" destitution that often motivates people to go out and steal out of desperation, but it is still technically "poor".

I ain't waitin' fer da lotto. We don't even play it. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-141113185701.png&hash=615e3c1aa9c374cb1eab5bfc1e9494f2cb05e9f7) We are not the only poor Americans with principles, Eddie.

This is my guiding principle/prayer:

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Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die:

Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:

Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.  - Proverbs 30: 7-9

We are poor but we are not greedy.
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 06, 2018, 10:56:00 pm
Eddie said:
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America doesn't have poor people. We have people who are waiting on the Lotto to make them rich.

I resemble that remark. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-130418202709.png&hash=7503265ec59e4c28d735afb762bc39f4674bd838) I may have a small pension that keeps my wife and I just above the poverty level in our 980 sq.' manufactured home, being reasonably independent and decently clothed and fed due to the frugality my wife and I practice, but nobody would call us middlle class or above. Yes, that isn't the "poor" destitution that often motivates people to go out and steal out of desperation, but it is still technically "poor".

I ain't waitin' fer da lotto. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-141113185701.png&hash=615e3c1aa9c374cb1eab5bfc1e9494f2cb05e9f7) We don't even play it. We are not the only poor Americans with principles, Eddie.

This is my guiding principle/prayer:


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Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die:

Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:

Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.  - Proverbs 30: 7-9

We are poor but we are not greedy.

No, you're not greedy. You too, are being noble. Well done.

I was referring to the vast numbers of anonymous other people out there who outnumber you a zillion to one, who ARE.  They're out there.

Not all, no. Certainly not. Lots of frugal good people who are that way for ethical reasons.. But not big numbers in the overall scheme of things.


True, those of us who take morality seriously are always pretty much in the minority. Thanks for the compliment, but I prefer to label my behavior as just being practical. As somebody said in an old movie, "A man's gotta know his own limitations." I have learned mine pretty well. ;)

I really do believe that money above a certain threshold is counterproductive to happiness, makes one overly territorial of the stuff one accumulates (i.e. loves them more than friends or family = idolatry) and leads to unrestrained greed = unhappiness.

IOW, it's not just a religious thing for me. I've seen enough people in my family become morally depraved after becoming stock market millionaires to accept the very real possibility that I would have been morally ruined too. There, but for the grace of God, go I.
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 13, 2018, 02:47:32 pm
Agelbert NOTE: Who was King Lemuel's Mother? ??? Nobody knows, but her advice is still wrongly ignored. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-200714183312.bmp&hash=02dafef2fe739676600fdc9bd56271f0f5ab3723) The writer here covers it pretty well. However, I disagree that everyone who self-medicates becomes an addict. Most people who self-medicate do not. It is Biblically OKAY to self-medicate to mitigate the pain of sickness and/or poverty. It is just wrong to condemn everyone who self-medicates. Too many Christians have a stuffed shirt, overly judgemental, attitude towards drinking. There is NO Biblical basis for claiming Christians should not drink fermented beverages. The Biblical admonition, in several places in Scipture, is to avoid getting drunk, not to abstain totally from drinking.

But, since "Evangelical Christians" have an irrational prejudice against drinking, they try to spin the Bible to make it look like Scripture prohibits drinking booze.

All that said, it is to the writer's credit (though he wrongly tries to spin the good advice for the poor as "irony") that he admits that the advice of King Lemuel's mother is sound. King Lemuel's mother 🕊 makes it quite clear that the pain and misery of the sick and/or those in poverty is ample justification for self-medication.

As you can see from the vulgar, arrogant and totally unprincipled government leaders 🦀🐉🦕🦖 we are cursed with today, the elites continue to ignore this timeless advice.  :(

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Proverbs 31:1-9: Lemuel’s Mother And The Duties Of Kings

Posted on February 8, 2012 by Nathan Albright

The identity of King Lemuel is unknown. Some people think that Lemuel is a pen name of King Solomon, the author of most of Proverbs, but like Agur, the author of Proverbs 30 [1], he may simply be an otherwise unknown wise man whose wisdom remains in the Bible even after he has been forgotten by history. In this case, the wisdom was (according to Proverbs) originally the wisdom of Lemuel’s mother. Unfortunately, Lemuel’s mother, who was presumably a princess or queen herself, has not been recorded in scripture, and as Lemuel’s identity or his realm is forgotten, Lemuel’s mother also has been consigned to historical oblivion.

Nonetheless, what is most important about King Lemuel and his mother is not their identity, or what realm they ruled over, but the worthiness and implications of the advice itself on the duties and responsibilities of kings. Needless to say, the subject is of considerable interest to me. Of course, when the Bible speaks about kings and their duties and responsibilities, kings is a title that refers to civil rulers and leaders in general and is not limited to monarchy, though it is of course applicable at all places and all time.

There are three pieces of advice given to Lemuel by his mother and then recorded in scripture. Let us examine each of them in turn and see what sort of relevant advice we can glean from them. The first piece of advice is recorded in Proverbs 31:1-3: “The words of King Lemuel, the utterance which his mother taught him: What, my son? And what, son of my womb? And what, son of my vows? Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” It is ironic that Lemuel’s mother tells him not to give his strength to women nor his ways to that which destroys kings. What is meant here? Given the context, that Lemuel is the son of his mother’s womb and vows, that Lemuel was a queen, the lawfully wedded wife of her husband, presumably a king. Giving your strength to women means collecting and being ensnared in a harem by women scheming for influence for themselves and their children. What destroys kings is the luxuriant and corrupt and decadent lifestyle that most monarchs live–a way that destroys them mind, body, and spirit. So, lesson number one for leaders is: don’t amass a harem; stick with one godly wife.

The second piece of advice is found in Proverbs 31:4-7: “It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, nor for princes intoxicating drink; lest they drink and forget the law, and pervert the justice of all the afflicted. Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to those who are bitter of heart. Let him drink and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.” This is a wise command, but one that is seldom heeded by rulers. Far too often those who consider themselves elites enjoy parties and banquets and luxury. The Bible forbids leaders from drunkenness (including religious leaders) because it interferes with the duties of a leader to discern and judge justly. Intriguingly, Lemuel’s mother recommends drink for those who are perishing, whose lives are full of misery, so that they can forget their misery for a little while. This seems to be a major reason why people self-medicate their problems and become alcoholics. It is not clear whether this advice is ironic, and intended to point out that drunkenness reflects misery rather than happiness, vanity and futility rather than the proper purposeful life of a ruler, but it is sound advice anyway. Lesson number two for leaders is: stay sober and sober-minded.

The third lesson from Lemuel’s mother is contained in Proverbs 31:8-9: “Open your mouth for the speechless, in the cause of all who are appointed to die. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.” Most kings and rulers may wish to be seen as defending the cause of their people, but in reality most of them plead the cause of elites, be they military leaders or aristocrats or palace courtiers or wealthy businessmen. Elites do not need for rulers to speak on their behalf. They have their own power, their own lobbyists and lawyers and other backers, and do not need the power of the throne to support their interests. Rather, it is the poor and needy and speechless, those who do not have a voice in the corridors of power, nor can afford those to speak on their behalf, that require the support of the ruler. And this support cannot merely be lip service, but needs to be the expenditure of actual political capital and effort on their behalf, for the cause of justice within a realm. Most rulers and leaders, whatever their inclinations, are unwilling to crusade for justice within their realms and institutions, but are content to go with the flow and enjoy the perks of office as well as the benefits of associating with those who are already powerful and well-connected, rather than to disrupt that equilibrium for the sake of justice and equity. Lesson number three for leaders is: godly leaders speak for the powerless and poor, not for the elites.

All of these pieces of advice for leaders cut against the grain of how leaders generally behave. If there are three sins of leaders that are extremely common, the sins of sexual immorality, luxuriant decadence, and casual injustice are high among them. These are especially omnipresent evils in monarchies whose focus is on splendor and luxury and where the power of the monarch and his inner clique is bolstered by some kind of bogus divine right view of leadership and where the responsibility of rulers to uphold constitutional standards is weak or nonexistent. We ought to be careful when we see such standards present to ensure that such rulers are made aware of their obligations to the people and cease from serving only themselves and their favorites. Lemuel’s mother gave immensely wise advice, and advice that is sadly seldom heeded by leaders, whether crowned monarchs or not, to this day. Let it not remain so.

[1] https://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/seven-things-i-learned-from-the-wisdom-of-agur/

Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on November 27, 2018, 12:30:52 pm
Agelbert NOTE:
I am guilty ;D of the bold highlighted below in the quotes from Wikipedia. My purpose here is to point out that the scholarly level of knowledge of Greek, that Dr. Spiros Zodhiates possessed, enabled him to spot, and correct, mistranslation errors from Greek to English. These mistranslations cause misconceptions resulting from reading the English Translation of the New Testament (which was originally written mostly in Greek).

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Zodhiates was born of Greek parents on the island of Cyprus. His father first brought the family to Port Said, Egypt and then Khartoum, Sudan, looking for work. Spiros's brother, Argos Zodhiates, was converted to Protestant Christianity after hearing an evangelical preacher and brought this witness to his mother and brother, who also became convinced of its truth.

After neglecting to kiss a Greek Orthodox priest's hand
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Dr. Spiros Zodhiates (Greek: Σπύρος Ζωδιάτης; March 13, 1922-October 10, 2009) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiros_Zodhiates) was a Greek-American Bible scholar, author, and ministry innovator.

Agelbert NOTE: The videos below are examples of the in depth knowledge of Greek that aids all of us in understanding the Gospels. In future posts I will provide quotes by Dr. Spiros Zodhiates from his edited Hebrew-Greek Study Bible. I have learned much from him. I hope you give him the benefit of the doubt and  carefully and seriously ponder what he says. This man knew his Greek. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-250817121424.gif&hash=384c17a4d2be4831084933b91808f8a60f73f7f5) IOW, it was NOT 'all Greek' to him. 😀

(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-191017143841.jpeg&hash=21f142befe4ed82f10ef0bdba11c22bbd3051289) A word of Scriptural advice to those who dismiss, mock or otherwise disdain the wisdom of Dr. Spiros Zodhiates in regard to mistranslations of Greek to English (in the Christian Bible New Testament) without serious consideration of what he says in this post and all the posts I will subsequently make:

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Proverbs 15 KJV

The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.

The light of the eyes rejoiceth the heart: and a good report maketh the bones fat.

The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the wise.

He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.

The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility
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In the videos below, the first important lesson we learn is that, in Greek, there are TWO words for anger, but a SINGLE word for both the Greek words is used in the English Translation of the New Testament. The (justified or unjustified anger) difference communicated by the TWO Greek words for anger is extremely important for all of us.

Justified (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-130418202709.png&hash=7503265ec59e4c28d735afb762bc39f4674bd838) & Unjustified(https://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/images/smilies/furious.gif) Anger 1-3

https://youtu.be/89r8ZxEw_6k

https://youtu.be/YPwZw0RzI_A

https://youtu.be/sbazC4SsgdU

ScriptureCentral

Published on Nov 17, 2012

From the "New Testament Light" television program, produced by AMG International, which aired in syndication in the 1980s and early 1990s. The program features the teaching of the late Dr. Spiros Zodhiates, longtime president of AMG International, from the original Greek New Testament text.
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on November 27, 2018, 02:21:13 pm
Dr. Spiros Zodhiates' Funeral Service Part 4 - Philip Zodhiates Son

https://youtu.be/8bph75R-Z34

Paul Jenks

Published on Nov 3, 2009

Philip is the third child of Spiros and Joan Zodhiates. Philip and his wife, Kathie, live with their six children in Virginia. Philip and Kathie are the owners of Unlimited Response, Inc.  Philip is the President of the company.
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on December 09, 2018, 01:10:45 pm
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Hebrews 13:10-16 King James Version (KJV)

We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on December 28, 2018, 12:03:58 pm
Explanatory note on Colossians Chapter 3 verses 5 and 11 from the Hebrew-Greek Study Bible (compiled and edited by Spiros Zodhiates, Th.D.):

Colossians 3:5
This verse combats Gnosticism (a Heresy) which taught that the body is evil, and since it is evil in itself and cannot be redeemed from its evil ways, it might as well do whatever it wants (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-311013201314.png&hash=0715eb72631014310634eb56176ff860c6d542f6). This is the reason Paul says, "Mortify therefore, the members of your body." Bring them under control. Treat them as if they were dead. Your spirit should have them under subjection because the two, the spirit and the body, are interrelated and the body behaves only as the spirit commands it. The evils of the body which Paul lists are material expressions: porneia, "fornication," including all sexual sins among unmarried or married including adultery, homsexuality, incest, etc.; akatharsia, uncleanness of all kinds that defile the body; pathos, passion which here is translated "inordinate affection"; epithumia, "desire," which in this instance is similar to "lust" because it is coupled with the adjective kakē, "bad" or constitutionally evil (these two words are translated as "evil concupiscence" which actually means lustful desire); pleonexia, "coveteousness or greediness,"  (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsi.wsj.net%2Fpublic%2Fresources%2Fimages%2FBA-AQ123_media__NS_20090717182137.jpg&hash=0586753f2180ac8ae6485dc1c2bd1c4a61076fa5) desiring to have more than one has (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-270117175421.png&hash=cf39e823dd9156833bfa885808a876bf518bd0d6), not because it is insufficient but because others have more. Such desire  (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-040718162655-14231561.gif&hash=98b427175ee380f6d3c313520cc8668c10f2172a) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-190318152544.png&hash=f9c3636b6ca81d8a7b9c7b8182c3367edbb8a377) is called "idolatry."


Colossians 3:11
The Scythians (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-130418203402.gif&hash=b2691028ba683a0039a5811f5775c68d7ccae01c) were a tribe of nomads and warriers from west Siberia inhabiting the Caspian area of the Black Sea from about 2000 B.C. In the late eighth century they moved into northern Persia. Their initial advances to the southwest were checked by Sargon II of Assyria (727-705 B.C.). Paul is using them as an example of barbaric people (e.g. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fstyles%2Frenewablerevolution%2Ffiles%2F809_84688966.jpeg&hash=7f3e84eea23fef901b7df618784dc2005290f591) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F1%2F3-250718205137.gif&hash=7a79df8ecf1b29d8599c26fe550e664c6c5e24bd)) who were constantly at war.

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on January 03, 2019, 01:03:08 pm
Too many people these days have been lured into embracing evil by the carrots and sticks that demons wield in this Valley of Tears. The "Christian" mega-churches in the USA are an excellent example of depraved humans who embrace all things ANTI-Christian, no matter who is hurt and no matter what the Holy Scriptures say, all so they can "prosper" economically.

The Apostle Paul accurately described the true motive of these heretics and contrasted it with the true motive of a Christian:

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Philippians Chapter 3:18-21

18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

The bold faced heretics in these prosperity preaching mega-churches often quote Philippians Chapter 4:19, ignoring the message in the verses above and, more importantly, WITHOUT mentioning the even clearer message delivered in some verses (Philippians Chapter 4:11-13) a little before Philippians Chapter 4:19:

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Philippians Chapter 4:19

19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Notice that the what God promises to supply to the believer is your NEED, not your GREED or your WANT. Often this NEED is not a material item at all, but some ADVERSITY and/or the LACK of material goods for the purpose of making your spirit grow. But, too many people are blinded by the clever (greed based) claim that hey, God is a really, really rich dude, so if I am promised according to HIS "riches in glory", that is a lot of MATERIAL PROSPERITY! (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F1%2F3-250718211017.gif&hash=1b5b289486b9429bdbdcb938b21ef1a2b66d30fc) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-TzWpwHzCvCI%2FT_sBEnhCCpI%2FAAAAAAAAME8%2FIsLpuU8HYxc%2Fs1600%2Fnooo-way-smiley.gif&hash=b8545bd420b1e2f2c7b9f665d2093523e4ad2251)

Now look at verses 11-13  🧐

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Philippians Chapter 4:11-13

11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.

12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

You need to be strengthened if you are in adversity. Therefore the "all things" Paul is referring to are even more applicable to bad times than to economic prosperity.

In the light of the above, the true context of verse 19 becomes clear:

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Philippians Chapter 4:19

19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

When these heretics prosperity preach about "doing all things in Christ", remind them that SUFFERING and ADVERSITY and WANT and HUNGER are OFTEN part of DOING ALL THINGS IN CHRIST. Who knows? It might even rip the money and power loving satanic blinders they wear with such hypocritical pride off of them.

If anyone still harbors doubts about what Paul means when he makes mention of how, and why, God uses His "riches in glory" (see: "glorious power") to strengthen Christians, Colossians Chapter 1, verse 11 should make it crystal clear that economic prosperity is NOT included. God strengthens us during, as well as through, adversity so we grow spiritually. The fruit of that growth is good works, NOT the accumulation of wealth.

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Colossians Chapter 1:10-11

10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

ANYONE who tells you that God wants you to be rich is engaging in demonic mendacity. Reject their Prosperity Preaching Heresy. Economic wealth is one of the biggest snares that Lucifer uses to prevent you from obediently serving our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on January 26, 2019, 01:50:58 pm
What are Conies in the Bible?

Cony, also spelled Coney, any of certain unrelated animals, including two mammals and two fishes. ... The name cony was once applied to the rabbit and is still sometimes used in the fur business to indicate rabbit fur. The cony of the Old World and of the Bible is an unrelated mammal, the hyrax (q.v.). Agelbert NOTE: qv in British. abbreviation for denoting a cross reference - quod vide. Collins English Dictionary.

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Hyrax Facts: Animals Of Africa - It is perhaps surprising due to their small size and rodent-like appearance, but hyraxes are related to 🐘 elephants 🧐. (https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/hyrax-facts-animals-of-africa.html)

Where are hyraxes found?

Hyraxes are very adaptable. In East Africa, they are found at sea level and at altitudes of more than 4,000 meters (14,000 feet). Their habitats range from dry savanna to dense rainforest to cold Afro-alpine moorland.

Hyraxes are small animals without tails. They resemble guinea pigs. The animals grow to 28 inches in length and have a maximum weight of 11 pounds. The hyrax’s skin is covered with thick fur and has varied coloration depending on the species. The yellow-spotted rock hyrax’s fur is yellowish brown and has a white patch just above its eyes. The rock hyrax is greyish-brown in color and has no distinct marks on its face.

The hyrax has several physical attributes that differentiate it from rodents and link it to elephants and manatees. The hyrax’s feet have rubber-like moist soles which are crucial in climbing. Hyraxes have three toes on the hind feet and four toes on the front feet. The toes have nails (with the exception of the hind foot’s inner toe which has a claw used for scratching itches) which resemble hoofs unlike the usual long, claw-like nails found in rodents. The dental characteristics of the hyrax are also close to that of elephants with elongated incisors which resemble tusks found in manatees and elephants. These tusk-like teeth are more prominent in male hyraxes than in females.


Proverbs 30:24-28 King James Version (KJV)

24 There be four things which are little upon the earth, but they are exceeding wise:

25 The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;

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26 The conies are but a feeble folk, yet make they their houses in the rocks;
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27 The locusts 🦗 have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;
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28 The spider taketh hold with her hands, and is in kings' palaces.
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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on January 27, 2019, 01:04:22 pm
Explanatory note in regard to Paradise from the Hebrew-Greek Study Bible (compiled and edited by Spiros Zodhiates, Th.D.):

What is this place called Paradise? :-\

The word paradeisos, "paradise"," originally comes from the ancient Iranian, pairidaēza, and means "a garden with a wall." The Septugint translation of the Hebrew word in Genesis 2:8 is paradeisos. In the New Testament the word occurs only three times:II Corinthians 12:4; Luke 23:43; Revelation 2:7.

It was indicated as a place where spirits go immediately after death, which is also the place that Christ was going to go once His spirit was separated from his body. The continuation of the existence of the personality is also clearly intimated in the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31.

Luke 16:19-31

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



The paradise of II Corinthians 12:4 is the same as that spoken of by Christ in Luke 23:24. In Revelation 2:7 the word is spoken pf in an eschatological* sense as being a gift to be given to the one who overcomes. It is evidently the place where the disembodied personalities as spirits or souls of the believers go immediately at death to be with Christ.

* eschatology [es-k uh- tol- uh-jee]

NOUN (THEOLOGY.)

1. any system of doctrines concerning last, or final, matters, as death, the Judgment, the future state, etc.

2. the branch of theology dealing with such matters.

II Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
 
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.


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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on January 28, 2019, 01:52:20 pm
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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on January 29, 2019, 11:54:16 am
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Explanatory note on II Corinthians Chapter 5 verses 1-10 and  II Corinthians Chapter 12 verses 1-6 from the Hebrew-Greek Study Bible (compiled and edited by Spiros Zodhiates, Th.D.):

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on January 30, 2019, 12:18:04 pm
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So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.

Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand. Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory. Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.

My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever. For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.

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But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord God, that I may declare all thy works.

Psalm 73:22-28 King James Version




Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on February 02, 2019, 12:17:55 pm
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For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Romans 8:24-27 King James Version (KJV)

Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on February 06, 2019, 11:54:59 am
Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul.

I cried unto him with my mouth, and he was extolled with my tongue.

If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:

But verily God hath heard me; he hath attended to the voice of my prayer.

Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me.

Psalm 66:16-20


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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on February 17, 2019, 01:45:30 pm
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Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.

But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death. -- Proverbs 8:32-36 (KJV)

Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on February 19, 2019, 12:28:46 pm
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Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F1%2F3-250718210628.gif&hash=a297e44320f13fa5f3eae64809a46139f5e2395a) -- Acts 13:26 (KJV)
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on February 20, 2019, 01:31:35 pm
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Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I have mingled. Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.

He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot. Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.


The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. -- Proverbs 9:5-10 (KJV)

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Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets; Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
-- Acts 13:38-41
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on February 22, 2019, 11:40:14 am
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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 03, 2019, 04:18:25 pm
ANTINOMIAN

An·ti·no·mi·an [an-ti- noh-mee- uhn] NOUN

1. a person who maintains that Christians are freed from the moral law by virtue of grace as set forth in the gospel.


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The word antinomianism comes from two Greek words, anti, meaning "against"; and nomos, meaning "law." Antinomianism means “against the law.” Theologically, antinomianism is the belief that there are no moral laws God expects Christians to obey. Antinomianism (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-250817135149.gif&hash=b4a8748d7cf56a31dd0a6aae5828ed2c1ac2815c) takes a biblical teaching to an unbiblical conclusion.

The biblical teaching is that Christians are not required to observe the Old Testament Law as a means of salvation. When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He fulfilled the Old Testament Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

The unbiblical conclusion  (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-311013201314.png&hash=0715eb72631014310634eb56176ff860c6d542f6) is that there is no moral law God expects Christians to obey.

The apostle Paul dealt with the issue of antinomianism in Romans 6:1-2, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?”

The most frequent attack on the doctrine of salvation by grace alone is that it encourages sin. People may wonder, “If I am saved by grace and all my sins are forgiven, why not sin all I want? 😈” That thinking is not the result of true conversion because true conversion yields a greater desire to obey, not a lesser one.

God’s desire—and our desire when we are regenerated by His Spirit—is that we strive not to sin. Out of gratitude for His grace and forgiveness, we want to please Him. God has given us His infinitely gracious gift in salvation through Jesus (John 3:16; Romans 5:8 ).

Our response is to consecrate our lives to Him out of love, worship, and gratitude for what He has done for us (Romans 12:1-2).

Antinomianism is unbiblical in that it misapplies the meaning of God’s gracious favor.

A second reason that antinomianism is unbiblical is that there is a moral law God expects us to obey. First John 5:3 tells us, “This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome.”

What is this law God expects us to obey? It is the law of Christ – “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37-40).

No, we are not under the Old Testament Law.

Yes, we are under the law of Christ.


The law of Christ is not an extensive list of legal codes. It is a law of love. If we love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, we will do nothing to displease Him. If we love our neighbors as ourselves, we will do nothing to harm them. Obeying the law of Christ is not a requirement to earn or maintain salvation. The law of Christ is what God expects of a Christian.

Antinomianism is contrary to everything the Bible teaches.

God expects us to live a life of morality, integrity, and love. Jesus Christ freed us from the burdensome commands of the Old Testament Law, but that is not a license to sin, but rather a covenant of grace. We are to strive to overcome sin and cultivate righteousness, depending on the Holy Spirit to help us. The fact that we are graciously freed from the demands of the Old Testament Law should result in our living our lives in obedience to the law of Christ. First John 2:3-6 declares, “We know that we have come to know Him if we obey His commands. The man who says, ‘I know Him,’ but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in Him: Whoever claims to live in Him must walk as Jesus did.” (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-130418202709.png&hash=7503265ec59e4c28d735afb762bc39f4674bd838) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-250817121649.png&hash=4554f7e59701d12857946aece16bceb973c997b3)

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 20, 2019, 11:42:26 am
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

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The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

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35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew  12:35-37

Enjoy this Country Western style singing of a Psalm David wrote:     (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2Fballoons.gif&hash=a64bb5ff3e76c3e11999996c460fa02de1ee10f7)

https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 20, 2019, 07:27:20 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

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The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

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https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow

Parable no. 2 (vv. 24-30 the wheat and the tares) and parable no. 7 (the net which catches both good and bad fish) are illustrative of the fact that, as a result of the witnessing of children of the kingdom in this dispensation, there will be both genuine wheat and good fish, as well as tares and bad fish.

Not all who are caught in the net of evangelism are genuinely saved. The unsaved will be made manifest in the Day of Judgment at the consumation of the age.

Neither we nor angels, no matter how hard we try, wil be able to put the devil out of commision until the appointed time. The disciples wanted to pull out the tares planted by the devil, but were told not to do so until harvest time when the tares were going to be uprooted and utterly burned. See Jude v. 9.

Agelbert NOTE: It is one thing to not go out and kill the people you believe are pseudo-Christians dedicated to evil, but that doesn't mean we are not given sufficient discernment to know who they are. I am firmly convinced that Pat Robertson, Vice President Pence (and many other public figures that claim to be "Christians") are in the category of tares and bad fish. You know them by their empathy deficit, despicable, evil, destructive, hateful, war loving, rotten fruit.

Trump gets along great with those hypocrites. Is Trump the same as them?

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As for Trump, he doesn't have the remotest idea of what Christianity is, and never has entertained one single thought of accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, except as a pose to con voters.

To non-believers, the difference between the Trumps and Pences of this world is irrelevant because they both obviously are people dominated by evil desires.

But according to Holy Scripture, the Trumps of this world, who never even looked at the seed of the Gospel or were never caught in the Gospel net of sound doctrine, are less guilty than people like Pence, Gorsuch, etc. et al, who drive potential converts to Christianity away with their in-your-face greed, lack of compassion, racism and bigotry while they simultaneously and shamelessly parade their sanctimonious guise of "Christian" beliefs.(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_9HT4xZyDmh4%2FTOHhxzA0wLI%2FAAAAAAAAEUk%2FoeHDS2cfxWQ%2Fs200%2FSmiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg&hash=13281f1944b60773bf12b29387b70be77cc1fe16) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opednews.com%2Fpopulum%2Fuploaded%2Fwemeantwell-23439-20130307-234.jpg&hash=5d94476d7e46b55b11262b914d406946bde61c41)

Judgment begins in the House of the Lord.

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17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? - 1 Peter 4:17 KJV

Continued tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 21, 2019, 12:20:40 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.katapi.org.uk%2Fimages%2FNature%2FSower300w.jpg&hash=14e0e972f774525b210da50c18bea16476ce9fad)

The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

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https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow
Parable no. 2 (vv. 24-30 the wheat and the tares) and parable no. 7 (the net which catches both good and bad fish) are illustrative of the fact that, as a result of the witnessing of children of the kingdom in this dispensation, there will be both genuine wheat and good fish, as well as tares and bad fish.

Not all who are caught in the net of evangelism are genuinely saved. The unsaved will be made manifest in the Day of Judgment at the consumation of the age.

Neither we nor angels, no matter how hard we try, wil be able to put the devil out of commision until the appointed time. The disciples wanted to pull out the tares planted by the devil, but were told not to do so until harvest time when the tares were going to be uprooted and utterly burned. See Jude v. 9.

Agelbert NOTE: It is one thing to not go out and kill the people you believe are pseudo-Christians dedicated to evil, but that doesn't mean we are not given sufficient discernment to know who they are. I am firmly convinced that Pat Robertson, Vice President Pence (and many other public figures that claim to be "Christians") are in the category of tares and bad fish. You know them by their empathy deficit, despicable, evil, destructive, hateful, war loving, rotten fruit.

Trump gets along great with those hypocrites. Is Trump the same as them?

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As for Trump, he doesn't have the remotest idea of what Christianity is, and never has entertained one single thought of accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, except as a pose to con voters.

To non-believers, the difference between the Trumps and Pences of this world is irrelevant because they both obviously are people dominated by evil desires.

But according to Holy Scripture, the Trumps of this world, who never even looked at the seed of the Gospel or were never caught in the Gospel net of sound doctrine, are less guilty than people like Pence, Gorsuch, etc. et al, who drive potential converts to Christianity away with their in-your-face greed, lack of compassion, racism and bigotry while they simultaneously and shamelessly parade their sanctimonious guise of "Christian" beliefs.(https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_9HT4xZyDmh4%2FTOHhxzA0wLI%2FAAAAAAAAEUk%2FoeHDS2cfxWQ%2Fs200%2FSmiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg&hash=13281f1944b60773bf12b29387b70be77cc1fe16) (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opednews.com%2Fpopulum%2Fuploaded%2Fwemeantwell-23439-20130307-234.jpg&hash=5d94476d7e46b55b11262b914d406946bde61c41)

Judgment begins in the House of the Lord.

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In parable no. 3 (vv, 31,32), we have a mustard seed which is the smallest of the seeds taking itself an unnatural growth. Many confuse this parable with the often quoted "Faith as a mustard seed" teaching by Christ. Faith as a mustard seed is a good thing worthy of being sought out. But the parable of the kingdom, as related to a mustard seed's growth, is a prophecy of the corruption of the Church when it becomes unnaturally large.


 The tremendous growth of a tiny mustard seed to a plant nearly 12 feet tall is a metaphor for the secularization of the Christian Church. Christ never meant His Church to wield organizational power.

Bigness is unnatural in the kingdom of God but Christ told us what to expect. In these parables we have the history of the witness of the children of the kingdom foretold, just as in Rev. 2-3 the history of the church is foretold.

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The birds of the air are a metaphor for evil, just as they are in the parable of the sower.

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See Rev. 18 where a false church is called Babylon. God's genuine people are admonished to separate themselves from this church (Rev. 18:4).

Continued Tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 22, 2019, 03:20:02 pm
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Continued from the previous post on this thread:

Parable no. 4 ( Matthew 13:33) about the hidden yeast represents the subtle influence of evil (the yeast) in the bread. In spite of the onfluence of the yeast, the bread is still useful for feeding and nourishment.
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The metaphor of bread containing yeast (notice that leavened bread grows LARGE while unleavened bread does not) represents the Church influenced by evil.

Some use this parable to justify pointing at the mainstream nominally Christan Church as the tainted, but still most important, source of the spiritual food and strength of Christ in the world. That is an erroneous, and altogether too modern mainstream church self serving, assumption. This parable clearly points to a remnant within, but by no means excluding the remnant without, the Church that together constitutes the Spiritual Body of Christ (i.e. Christ's Church on earth). The tremendous expansion of bread when it contains yeast is a metaphor for the secularization of the Christian Church. Christ never meant His Church to wield organizational power. Bigness is unnatural in the kingdom of God but Christ told us what to expect.

The Body of Christ is certainly not limited to the organized Church.

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In fact, in these dark times, I believe a greater part of the Body of Christ exists outside the organized Church "bread" hampered by the evil "yeast" than within it. Christ did not actually used the word "mix" in regard to the yeast; He used the word (when translated to Greek) "krypto", which means, "to hide or conceal". 

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If you are in a Church where the yeast has taken over, I am certain that Christ does not want you there. These churches prosper economically, grow massively and gain respect and approval from the secular government they serve. 

If you can manage to not get thrown out, even when you call out the behavior of the "yeast" in that Church, then stay. But if you are coerced to applaud a corrupted, prospertiy preaching, war loving, flag worshipping Orwellian version of Christ's teachings (by remaining silent before organizational church false doctrine), staying puts your Salvation in jeopardy.

The people in those yeast leavened organizational churches have gained the world, only to lose their soul. Tell them why you are leaving, pray for them and flee!

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 23, 2019, 02:00:02 pm
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Continued from the previous post (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/general-discussion/the-wisdom-of-the-books-of-the-bible/msg7712/#msg7712) on Matthew 13:1-58

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Parable no. 5 (v. 44), the hidden treasure found in the field, is a metaphor for the people in the world in whom Christ establishes His kingdom. In order to possess them, He gave His own life. He hides this treasure, God's redeemed saints, in the world until He redeems or purchases the whole world when He will come again to liberate not only the believer within the world but the world itself (Rom. 8:19-26; Rev. 21).


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Parable no. 6 (vv, 45-46) is similar to the fifth parable, with the pearl symbolizing the sinner. The pearl at its heart is a grain of hard and lifeless sand, even as the sinner is dead in his sins and trespasses.

But when the sand comes in touch with the living organism, the oyster, the sand becomes transformed into a pearl. As a result of this contact, it becomes a thing of exquisite beauty and precious indeed.

Thus, the precious pearls in the world are the sinners who, because of having become absorbed into the Spiritual Body of Jesus Christ, have become His kingdom (Rev. 1:6). For this to be accomplished, Jesus Christ had to sacrifice His own life, but He arose from the dead to be forever the living organism in whom we dwell.

The hair splitters out there might argue that the oyster is simply responding to an irritant by covering that irritating particle with the same type of exquisite Calcium Carbonate (i.e. mother of pearl) that said oyster uses to build its own shell, as these bivalves are DNA programmed to do.

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A pearl is created in the mantle of a mollusk when an irritant particle is surrounded by layers of nacre. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bivalvia) Although most bivalves can create pearls, oysters in the family Pteriidae and freshwater mussels in the families Unionidae and Margaritiferidae are the main source of commercially available pearls because the calcareous concretions produced by most other species have no lustre. 

As a result of the oyster's biological immunological response, a pearl is formed. Also, the irritating particle is not necessarily a grain of sand, as oysters often simply push most grains of sand out of their shell.

True, the oyster is certainly not celebrating the presence of an irritant, but the point is that something of exquisite value is formed from something lacking value. 

Furthermore, the fact is that an irritating particle (most naturally-occuring pearls are formed around a tenacious parasite) is an appropriate metaphor for a sinner. The parasite's modus vivendi is an appropriate analogy for evil caused spiritual death, even more so than the lifeless grain of sand. As the parasite is encased, it dies and a beautiful pearl replaces it.

In addition, the shell that protects the pearl as it is being formed is an excellent analogy for Christ's protection while we grow spiritually. Also, the fact that pearls are only produced by oysters in unpolluted, pristine water is analogous to spiritual protection beyond the shell itself.

Finally, the oyster, because it suffers to produce that pearl, is an appropriate symbol of Christ's suffering to redeem us from evil. 

So, though all metaphors and analogies have their limits, the parables of the buried treasure and the pearl evidence the boundless love and compassion that Christ has for us in suffering for us and in caring for us while we grow spiritually (by hiding us to protect us from spiritual harm).   

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 24, 2019, 01:17:26 pm
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Continued from the previous post (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/general-discussion/the-wisdom-of-the-books-of-the-bible/msg7721/#msg7721) on Matthew 13:1-58

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Parable no. 7 (Matthew 13:47-50 KJV) about the net represents the fishwermen or sons of the kingdom in the sea of humanity. They catch fish which prove to be both good and bad, edible and inedible. This is similar to parable no. 2 about the wheat and the tares.

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Matthew 13:30 KJV Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.



The separation ultimately will be done by the angels and not the believers down here. In this dispensation, the genuine and the hypocrite, true believer and the fraud, will jointly inhabit the world until God's appointed time.

Matthew 13:47-50 KJV

47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:

48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.

49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,



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50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


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Last parable in this teaching tomorrow:
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on March 25, 2019, 02:53:33 pm
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Final post on Matthew 13:1-58 (continued from the previous post (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/general-discussion/the-wisdom-of-the-books-of-the-bible/msg7725/#msg7725)).

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In parable no. 8 (Matthew 13:52 KJV), we have the execution of the responsibility of the sons of the kingdom to accomplish their work through sacrifice.

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The believer's treasures have to be spent so that the Gospel can be preached in this generation.


The disciples asked Christ why He taught using parables. His answer (Matthew 13:10-17) reveals a hard truth that many nominal Christians out there do not want to hear. Those are the "Christians" who prefer to view Jesus Christ's work as a free lunch providing sinners the "grace" (i.e. "It's under the blood so let's party." (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.desismileys.com%2Fsmileys%2Fdesismileys_2932.gif&hash=0eaec4791a5825821998245e7fcd7744b56557fe)) to get to heaven regardless of their refusal to make daily Holy Spirit guided efforts to avoid being willingly enslaved to whatever sin the natural man desires.   (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-200714183337.bmp&hash=fd5a6df63c32bd65dda7b6d93e788647ca3829df)

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The passages in Matthew 13:10-17, along with Mark 4:10-12, are some of the most difficult sayings of the Lord Jesus. The clue to understanding is found in the correct translation of a Greek word, mēpote (Mt 13:15; Mk. 4:12), usually translated "lest." However,it should be translated as a suppositional particle, "if perhaps."

Christ's reasoning was this,
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"If I speak plainly to these people knowing they are going to continue to reject what I say to them, their understanding of will increase their guilt. They would be rejecting not what they do not understand, but what they do understand. If I speak to them in parables, and they do not understand what I am saying, then their rejection is based on their lack of understanding and it will diminish their guilt. Their guilt is not based upon whether they understand or not, but on their rejection of God and Me, not because of what I say, but because of what I am, which should have been clear enought to them."

It is inherent in the entire teaching of the Bible that God will not hold us responsible for what we do not know or understand, but for what we do know and understand (Romans 2:12-20; 4:15). The nonunderstanding of some of the words of Christ in reality alleviates unbelievers of their guilt for the rejection of Jesus Christ. Every human on earth has an inner consciousness of God's requirement of him (Rom. 2:15; John 1:9).

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As one knows and understands more, his responsibility increases proportionately. This applies to everyone, many in the degree of their punishment in hell (yes readers, there ARE DEGREES of punishment in hell, just as there is a hierarchy of reward in heaven), and the remnant in the degree of their heavenly reward.

Hiding the meaning of the depths of God by Jesus Christ to unbelievers is an act of mercifulness toward them in reducing their comprehension of His words.

Yes, Christ is merciful, but He is not now, or ever was, wishy washy about sin and the existence of Heaven and Hell, as well as who would be sent to one of those two places. It wasn't some "fire and brimstone Old Testament fundamentalist preacher whacko" that said the following, it was the Lord of Creation, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Matthew 13:41-43 KJV

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


After Christ explained the paraples to His disciples, He said:

Matthew 13:51 KJV

51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.


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Matthew 13:53-58 KJV

53 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence.

54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.


In closing, let me say that when I read these passages I understand more clearly why Jesus was known as the Man of Sorrows. It's not just that He knew His destiny; it's the in-your-face unbelief of so much family around Him that must have weighed heavily on Him.

See that your unbelief does not limit what Christ does in your life. Repent of your sins, ask God to forgive you, and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

If you believe you are a Christian but can sin all you wish, you have never been anything but a fraud.

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Christanity is not a get out of hell free card; it's a call from our Creator to be the person He wants us to be in this valley of tears. The Grace our Lord Jesus Christ obtained for us by His Sacrifice on the Cross does not absolve us of our responsiblity to respect others as we respect ourselves.

May God Bless you by granting you the wisdom to do the right thing.
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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
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The highway of the upright is to depart from evil: he that keepeth his way preserveth his soul. -- Proverbs 16:17
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
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Psalm 51 Channel

Published on Apr 29, 2017

This teaching was preached in 2016 but is as relevant today as it was during the times of the quote by MacArthur. I urge you listen to the entire teaching by Pastor Robert Reed🕊. 👍👍👍

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on April 27, 2019, 03:07:32 pm
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PSALMS

Agelbert NOTE: quoted from the Hebrew-Greek Study Bible (compiled and edited by Spiros Sodhiates) Introduction to the Hebrew Prayer and Praise Book, that we Christians know as the Psalms.

The name "Psalms" comes from the Greek Psalmoi which means "sangs." Sometimes the book is called the Psalter. It has been called the "Hebrew Prayer and Praise Book." It was the first book in the third division of the Old Testament which is called the Writings (see Luke 24:44).

Thr Book of Psalms may very well be the most beloved book of the Old Testament! It was the hymnbook and prayer book of Israel and later of the early Christians. It has provided people with so much comfort in times of trouble, as well as private and public worship.

The Psalms were written by different authors over a long period of time.

Of the 150 Psalms,
seventy-three were ascribed to David,
forty-nine are anonymous,
twelve were written by Asaph,
twelve by the sons of Korah,
two by Solomon,
one by Moses,
and one by Ethan.


The collection is arranged in five books:

֍ Book I (Ps 1-41)
֍ Book II (Ps 42-72)
֍ Book III(Ps 73-89)
֍ Book IV (Ps90-106)
֍ Book V (Ps 107-150)


There are sub-groups here and there within Psalms: the psalms of Korah's sons (Ps. 42-49); the michtam psalms (Ps. 56-60); the psalms of Asaph (Ps. 73-83); and the songs of degrees (Ps. 120-134). The longest psalm is Psalm 119 with 176 verses (it is also the longest chapter in the entire Bible). In this particular psalm, each character of the Hebrew alphabet (from aleph "א" to tav "ת") begins a verse in each section of eight versers. The shortest psalm is Psalm 117.

There was a wide variaety of purposes and occasions which prompted the writing of the various types of psalms. Some are national in scope and some are intimatelt oersonal. Some are exuberant and some are forkorn. There is a tremendous range of human emotion expressed in the Psalms (both collectively and individually) that it is no wonder that Psalms has been so popular thriugh the ages. There is something there for everyone: temple hymns, royal psalms which anticipated Christ as Messianic King, imprecatory wishes, aspirations, struggles, deep contrition, feelings of deliverance, outpourrings of prayer to God, worship, confession, inner conflicts, pleas for help and protection, and songs of thanksgiving for God's blessings.

In the New Tetament there are 283 quotations from the Old Testament: 116 of them are from the Book of Psalms alone! Jesus loved the Psalms. Even while dying on the cross, Jesus quoted from them (Matthew 27:46, Luke 23:46). Messianic predictions abound regarding His suffering, death, resurrection, and final victory in glory.

The Psalms are especially useful for all of us today. The book emphasizes the following things: There is only one God. He is ever-present, all-powerful, and infinitely wise.

We must all recognize the universality of God's Love, His providence, and His goodness. He is sovereign and we must obey Him unfalteringly with reverence. Idols are empty, false, and abominable. Sin is horrible and God hates it. He will execute judgement upon sinners. But God is also merciful and forgiving, if man is truly penitent and submissive. Great joy will result. Some psalms stress the beauty of God's holiness and a deep personal relationship with God.

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on May 01, 2019, 11:30:19 am
Proverbs 19 King James Version (KJV)

21 There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand.

22 The desire of a man is his kindness: and a poor man is better than a liar.
Title: ETHIOPIAN BIBLE IS OLDEST AND MOST COMPLETE ON EARTH
Post by: Surly1 on May 02, 2019, 06:56:46 am
Not sure if this is the right place to drop this, but I came across it and found it fascinating.

ETHIOPIAN BIBLE IS OLDEST AND MOST COMPLETE ON EARTH
http://orthochristian.com/94812.html

Source: ancient-origine.com

June 28, 2016

    

World’s first illustrated Christian Bible discovered at Ethiopian monastery

The world’s earliest illustrated Christian book has been saved by a British charity which located it at a remote Ethiopian monastery.

The incredible Garima Gospels are named after a monk who arrived in the African country in the fifth century and is said to have copied them out in just one day.

Beautifully illustrated, the colours are still vivid and thanks to the Ethiopian Heritage Fund have been conserved.

Abba Garima arrived from Constantinople in 494 AD and legend has it that he was able to copy the Gospels in a day because God delayed the sun from setting.

  

The incredible relic has been kept ever since in the Garima Monastery near Adwa in the north of the country, which is in the Tigray region at 7,000 feet.

Experts believe it is also the earliest example of book binding still attached to the original pages.

The survival of the Gospels is incredible considering the country has been under Muslim invasion, Italian invasion and a fire in the 1930s destroyed the monastery’s church.

They were written on goat skin in the early Ethiopian language of Ge’ez.

There are two volumes which date from the same time, but the second is written in a different hand from the first. Both contain illustrations and the four Gospels.

Though the texts had been mentioned by the occasional traveller since the 1950s, it had been thought they dated from the 11th century at the earliest.

Carbon dating, however, gives a date between 330 and 650 – which tantalisingly overlaps the date Abba Garima arrived in the country.

So the first volume could be in his hand – even if he didn’t complete the task in a day as the oral tradition states.

The charity Ethiopian Heritage Fund that was set up to help preserve the treasures in the country has made the stunning discovery.

It was also allowed incredibly rare access to the texts so experts could conserve them on site.

The incredible relic has been kept ever since in the Garima Monastery near Adwa in the north of Ethiopia
The incredible relic has been kept ever since in the Garima Monastery near Adwa in the north of Ethiopia
  

It is now hoped the Gospels will be put in a museum at the monastery where visitors will be able to view them.

Blair Priday from the Ethiopian Heritage Fund said: "Ethiopia has been overlooked as a source of these fantastic things.

"Many of these old Christian relics can only be reached by hiking and climbing to remote monasteries as roads are limited in these mountainous regions.

"All the work on the texts was done in situ and everything is reversible, so if in future they can be taken away for further conservation we won’t have hindered that.

"The pages had been crudely stitched together in a restoration in the 1960s and some of the pages wouldn’t even turn. And they were falling to pieces.

"The Garima Gospels have been kept high and dry which has helped preserve them all these years and they are kept in the dark so the colours look fresh.

"This was the most astounding of all our projects and the Patriarch, the head of the Ethiopian Church, had to give his permission.

"Most of the experts did the work for nothing.

"We are currently undertaking other restoration programmes on wall paintings and religious texts.

"We believe that preserving Ethiopia’s cultural heritage will help to increase visitor revenue and understanding of the extraordinary history of this country."

Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on May 02, 2019, 02:13:49 pm
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Not sure if this is the right place to drop this, but I came across it and found it fascinating.
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ETHIOPIAN BIBLE IS OLDEST AND MOST COMPLETE ON EARTH

http://orthochristian.com/94812.html

Yep, it's the right place. 👍

Great find, Surly! 💐   
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on May 08, 2019, 11:28:56 am
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Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. -- Matthew 7:9-20

Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on May 15, 2019, 11:49:11 am
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Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the Lord pondereth the hearts.

To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice. -- Proverbs 21:2-3
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 09, 2019, 06:38:50 pm
Agelbert NOTE: This man describes the only correct attitude of a Christian towards war. As you can imagine, this attitude is considered "unpatriotic" by 100% of the pseudo-Christians in the USA. 

Christianity and War

Pastor Robert W. Reed | War Series

Victory Baptist Church

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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 18, 2019, 12:30:05 pm
Agelbert NOTE: Pastor Robert W. Reed explains why so-called "Just War" doctrine is not now, or ever was, a Christian Doctrine.   

🔊 🕊 Nonresistance (https://www.sermonaudio.com/saplayer/playpopup.asp?SID=1231295111)
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 25, 2019, 10:32:19 pm
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SNIPPET:

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A wicked man’s words (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fstyles%2Frenewablerevolution%2Ffiles%2F809_84688966.jpeg&hash=7f3e84eea23fef901b7df618784dc2005290f591) are like a spark that ignites violence. In fact, sins of the tongue are the most common kind of violence in the Psalms.

C. S. Lewis notes…

“I think that when I began to read it, these surprised me a little; I had half expected that in a simpler and more violent age when more evil was done with the knife, the big stick, and the firebrand, less would be done by talk. But in reality, the Psalmists mention hardly any kind of evil more often than this one, which the most civilized societies share. One almost hears the incessant whispering, tattling, lying, scolding, flattery, and circulation of rumors.”

Evil shows itself most often in verbal violence. You see it every day in post and comments on Facebook and other social media. You see it on television. The Apostle Paul quotes Psalm 10:7 to show that everyone, Jews and Gentiles alike, are under the power of sin.

Romans 3: 13, 14 (KJV) “Their throat is an open sepulcher; with their tongues, they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:”

James 3:6 says… “And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature, and it is set on fire of hell.”

The wicked man is treacherous. He cares nothing about the people he attacks.

For one thing, his heart is bad. In Matthew 12:34 (KJV), Jesus said, “…for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.” His words are full of “cursing and… oppression” because his heart is full of cursing and oppression. His very nature is to use whatever power he has to use and exploit others.

God is kind and patient, and he offers the evil one every opportunity to turn away from his sin. The wicked mistake God’s patience for negligence. The godly recognize God’s kindness and run to him, but those who are evil are truly arrogant and aggressive in everything they do.

What they don’t realize is that a wise man can see right through them.

However, only the foolish will follow them.

Full Article:

Arrogance and Aggression, the Two Marks Of A Truly Wicked Person (https://prophecyinthenews.com/articles/the-two-marks-of-a-truly-wicked-person/)
Title: Man in his pomp yet without understanding is like the beasts that perish.
Post by: AGelbert on July 08, 2019, 12:22:03 pm
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Psalm 49 English Standard Version (ESV)

To the choirmaster. A Psalm of the Sons of Korah.

Hear this, all peoples! Give ear, all inhabitants of the world, both low and high, rich and poor together! My mouth shall speak wisdom; the meditation of my heart shall be understanding. I will incline my ear to a proverb; I will solve my riddle to the music of the lyre.

Why should I fear in times of trouble, when the iniquity of those who cheat me surrounds me, those who trust in their wealth and boast of the abundance of their riches?

Truly no man can ransom another, or give to God the price of his life, for the ransom of their life is costly and can never suffice, that he should live on forever and never see the pit. For he sees that even the wise die; the fool and the stupid alike must perish and leave their wealth to others. Their graves are their homes forever *, their dwelling places to all generations, though they called lands by their own names. Man in his pomp will not remain; he is like the beasts that perish.

This is the path of those who have foolish confidence; yet after them people approve of their boasts **.  Selah

Like sheep they are appointed for Sheol; death shall be their shepherd, and the upright shall rule over them in the morning. Their form shall be consumed in Sheol, with no place to dwell.

But God will ransom my soul from the power of Sheol, for he will receive me.  Selah

Be not afraid when a man becomes rich, when the glory of his house increases. For when he dies he will carry nothing away; his glory will not go down after him. For though, while he lives, he counts himself blessed —and though you get praise when you do well for yourself— his soul will go to the generation of his fathers, who will never again see light.

Man in his pomp yet without understanding is like the beasts that perish.


Footnotes:
* Psalm 49:11 Septuagint, Syriac, Targum; Hebrew Their inward thought was that their homes were forever

** Psalm 49:13 Or and of those after them who approve of their boasts
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: Surly1 on July 13, 2019, 06:50:09 am
Good thoughts for any season.

Doug Anderson: That Quotation from the Talmud

by Vox Populi

Do not be daunted by the enormity of the world's grief. Do justly now, love mercy now, walk humbly now. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it.

I understand the world will be what it is
when I'm dead. I sometimes look at my hands
and know they are not mine. This body on loan.
Hoping whoever finds it, maybe hanging
on a Good Will coat rack, will judge it fit
to go on working. I would like to believe
the small things I've done will add something
to the greater energy that will pull us out
of this pit-bound course. There are more people
in the world than we can feed, can house,
can even imagine-we have the choice
to close and fortify the heart or keep it open.
The second takes more courage.
All wisdom, all salvation lies in this.
The heart opening and opening to hold all,
to dissolve its boundaries in a truth we don't yet know.


Copyright 2019 Doug Anderson

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Photo: Doug Anderson

Title: Do justly now, love mercy now, walk humbly now.
Post by: AGelbert on July 13, 2019, 02:10:52 pm
Good thoughts for any season.

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That Quotation from the Talmud: "Do not be daunted by the enormity of the world's grief. Do justly now, love mercy now, walk humbly now. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it."

There are more people in the world than we can feed, can house, can even imagine-we have the choice to close and fortify the heart or keep it open. The second takes more courage. All wisdom, all salvation lies in this. The heart opening and opening to hold all, to dissolve its boundaries in a truth we don't yet know.
Copyright 2019 Doug Anderson

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Doug Anderson, like too few humans today, understands the cause and effect message within that quote from the Talmud. That is, that God centered Caring Capacity, not worries and decisions made based on human centered Carrying Capacity, is what God celebrates, rewards and requires (see: ... neither are you free to abandon it.) in us. When we put material Carrying Capacity above all other considerations, we are in danger of losing our souls. God centered Caring Capacity is not optional for the Salvation seeking Servant of God.

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And he would answer and say to them, “The man who has two tunics is to share with him who has none; and he who has food is to do likewise.” Luke 3:11

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Christians, and anybody else out there, who choose to continue to live according to the wisdom of the world, are not living as friends of God. They are living in adultery as God's enemies.
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... Don't you know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? So whoever wants to be the friend of the world becomes the enemy of God." James 4:4
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For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’

Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:42-46

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..., 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
 
For I was hungry and you gave me food,
I was thirsty and you gave me drink,
I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
I was naked and you clothed me,
I was sick and you visited me,
I was in prison and you came to me.’ Matthew 25:34-36

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Title: Re: Do justly now, love mercy now, walk humbly now.
Post by: Surly1 on July 14, 2019, 11:02:31 am

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..., 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
 
For I was hungry and you gave me food,
I was thirsty and you gave me drink,
I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
I was naked and you clothed me,
I was sick and you visited me,
I was in prison and you came to me.’ Matthew 25:34-36

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Words to keep in mind today as Trump's internal Gestapo launches ICE raids to further terrorize brown people and disrupt families. Perfect for a Sunday, as Christian Dominionists celebrate their Prosperity Gospel Christianity in a complete inversion of Jesus' words.
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on July 14, 2019, 03:49:18 pm

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..., 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
 
For I was hungry and you gave me food,
I was thirsty and you gave me drink,
I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
I was naked and you clothed me,
I was sick and you visited me,
I was in prison and you came to me.’ Matthew 25:34-36

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Words to keep in mind today as Trump's internal Gestapo launches ICE raids to further terrorize brown people and disrupt families. Perfect for a Sunday, as Christian Dominionists celebrate their Prosperity Gospel Christianity in a complete inversion of Jesus' words.

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Title: When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and a
Post by: AGelbert on July 27, 2019, 07:09:23 pm
I have a mental picture of those locked into the 'greed + ambition = IT' world view. It is not pretty. However, it is not particularly ghastly. It is mostly, just sad. Why? Because all this destruction is so unnecessary for absolutely any of the reasons that elite profit over people and planet humans wrap around themselves like a comfortable blindfold.

I'm sure you've heard about the two groups of people sitting at two tables. One group is starving to death and one group is eating well. Both groups have the same amount of food on the table. Neither group can use anything but spoons to reach the food. However the spoons are longer than a person's arm (You cannot cheat by holding the spoon near the spoon cup, instead of at the end of the handle). IOW, you cannot feed yourself with the spoon you have.

One group spoons the food and feeds others in the group. They eat well. They live in harmony. They know that harmony and altruism equals survival in peace and plenty. They always look out for the other person as a utilitarian, practical matter. Every person in the group knows that if they do not feed someone else, the others will notice and not feed the selfish one, who will then starve to death.   

The group starving to death is the (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-130418203402.gif&hash=b2691028ba683a0039a5811f5775c68d7ccae01c) 'greed + ambition = IT' based human society.

Proverbs predicted all this thousands of years ago:

Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;

When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord: They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.

Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. -- Proverbs 1:20-32

Agelbert NOTE: As long as most people are more concerned with physical safety than spiritual safety, the violent climate upheavals which are undermining human civilization are guaranteed to increase in frequency and duration until our civilization is destroyed.

The 'escape clause', (see below) is NOT about physical safety; it is about spiritual safety. God fearing people have been victims of physical violence and various privations from the beginning, and will continue to suffer many of these harms till the end. 

But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil -- Proverbs 1:33
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: Surly1 on July 31, 2019, 06:36:51 am
Check this out.

Hosea 4:1-3 ...'Hear the word of the Lord, ye children of Israel: for the Lord hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood. Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.'

http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/animal-deaths-birds-fish-end-times.html?fbclid=IwAR1dO6OGCVF2bk69mkugx5l9b3H0nl3PaHavNm_hWZQBK_b9e5RULsctZXY
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on July 31, 2019, 02:59:36 pm
Check this out.

Hosea 4:1-3 ...'Hear the word of the Lord, ye children of Israel: for the Lord hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood. Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.'

http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/animal-deaths-birds-fish-end-times.html?fbclid=IwAR1dO6OGCVF2bk69mkugx5l9b3H0nl3PaHavNm_hWZQBK_b9e5RULsctZXY


Exactly right. Human "civilization" is reaping, more every day, what it has sown. As the land now testifies, this is a time of mourning. 
Title: Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Post by: AGelbert on August 16, 2019, 12:51:13 pm
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I will hear what God the Lord will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints:
but let them not turn again to folly.

Surely his salvation is nigh them that fear him; that glory may dwell in our land.

Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.

Yea, the Lord shall give that which is good; and our land shall yield her increase.
Righteousness shall go before him; and shall set us in the way of his steps. -- Psalm 85:8-13


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Now when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them, And said unto them, Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much damage, not only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives.

Nevertheless the centurion believed the master and the owner of the ship, more than those things which were spoken by Paul.
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Title: For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.
Post by: AGelbert on August 20, 2019, 01:58:28 pm
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Proverbs 8 King James Version (KJV)

1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.

36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 22, 2019, 11:50:38 am
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Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men. For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up. In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth.

For we are consumed by thine anger, and by thy wrath are we troubled. Thou hast set our iniquities before thee, our secret sins in the light of thy countenance. For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.

The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

Who knoweth the power of thine anger? even according to thy fear, so is thy wrath.

So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.

Return, O Lord, how long? and let it repent thee concerning thy servants. O satisfy us early with thy mercy; that we may rejoice and be glad all our days.

Make us glad according to the days wherein thou hast afflicted us, and the years wherein we have seen evil.

Let thy work appear unto thy servants, and thy glory unto their children. And let the beauty of the Lord our God be upon us: and establish thou the work of our hands upon us; yea, the work of our hands establish thou it --
Psalm 90 (KJV) (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+90&version=KJV)
Title: The term TZADE is applied to those who are completely devoted to the service of God.
Post by: AGelbert on October 11, 2019, 12:38:32 pm
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Psalm 119, with 176 verses, is the longest psalm and also the longest chapter in the bible. Each character of the Hebrew Alphabet predecedes a verse in each section of eight verses. "TZADDI" ((https://bje.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/18tzade.jpg)) is spelled "TZADE" in modern Hebrew.

The letter TZADE (https://bje.org.au/course/jewish-languages/hebrew-alphabet/tzade-hebrew-letter/) is a symbol of righteousness, and represents the number ninety in the numerical system of the Hebrew alphabet. The TZADE comes in two forms, the longest of the pair used only as the final letter in words. TZADE means ‘righteous’ in Hebrew. Humans can also be referred to as TZADE. The term is applied to those who are completely devoted to the service of God. TZADE pertains to the word tzedakkah, meaning ‘charity’. The giving of charity is amongst the most important of commandments in Judaism. The letter TZADE emphasises the significance of humility and loyalty in Judaism.


Psalm 119 137-144 King James Version (KJV) (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-119-137/)

(https://bje.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/18tzade.jpg) 137 Righteous art thou, O LORD, and upright are thy judgments.

138 Thy testimonies that thou hast commanded are righteous and very faithful.

139 My zeal hath consumed me, because mine enemies have forgotten thy words.

140 Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.

141 I am small and despised: yet do not I forget thy precepts.

142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

143 Trouble and anguish have taken hold on me: yet thy commandments are my delights.

144 The righteousness of thy testimonies is everlasting: give me understanding, and I shall live.



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Title: This Deaf Christian Hears 🕊 God Better Than Most People
Post by: AGelbert on December 10, 2019, 01:08:16 pm
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FOR OUR DEAF FRIENDS

We have some good friends who are deaf. They have a hard time reading normal English. So this is for them. Simple English which works with sign language -- so the sentences can be signed and the sign will show the correct meaning.   For people who know normal English, the writing will seem strange. But for people who use sign language to communicate, it will be easier to understand the meaning.  We will add to this page when I have time to change more things to simple English.  If you have a special question or request, please email us at bhs4light@charter.net

Make sure you put the words “deaf request” in the title so we will not think it is junk email!  Thank you and God bless you all.
http://setterfield.org/GSRdeaffriends.html

Agelbert NOTE: Read carefully what this wise person (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F1%2F3-120818185037-16412296.gif&hash=c8a4038d309a0f49ca4a7a464f30f9a340049cac) ✨ has to say. Though physically deaf, this Christian hears 🕊 God better than most people. (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-130418202709.png&hash=7503265ec59e4c28d735afb762bc39f4674bd838)

Who Nicolaitians?

In Revelation we read Christ hates what Nicolaitians do. Who were Nicolaitians and what they do?

Two possible answers.

1. If you separate word "nicolaitian," two words combined: nicos and laity. "Nicos" means, in Greek, 'ruler.' "Laity" means normal people in church. Not leaders. In Matthew 20:25-28, Jesus tells His disciples [simple English]: "You know Gentile rulers boss them. And Gentile rulers have authority over rulers themselves. Other high authorities boss rulers. You must be different. If you want become great, first you must become servant. If you want to be first, you must become slave. Son of Man same. He did not come so people serve Him. No. He came so He can serve. He gives His life to rescue many people."

But look at most church leaders! They are bossy. They like to make rules and tell others -- laity -- "you must obey."

When I first learned sign language, Heloise, my teacher, informed me how much deaf hate, hate if hearing people try boss them. Jesus hates, same way, when church leaders try boss people in church. Why? Because if people follow church leaders then people never learn to pay attention to Holy Spirit.

In Matthew 23, Jesus very, very angry with Pharisees and men who teach law to Jews. Why? Two reasons: 1) they make up more and more rules and tell people they must obey. 2) they do not follow God's rules and not follow their own rules. They are hypocrites.

Many church leaders today same. They maybe 'nicolaitians.' Maybe this is meaning. Interesting -- end every letter to churches in Revelation, Jesus says, "He who has ear, let him hear what Spirit says to churches." This does not mean only hearing people. Meaning: pay attention to 🕊 Holy Spirit. When men make rules for other men, happen, no one pays attention to Holy Spirit.

2. Other meaning for 'Nicolaitians' -- they maybe group in church who try to combine pagan beliefs and Christian beliefs. They hear they are 'free in Christ,' so they think meaning they can sin. This is traditional belief about "Nicolaitians."

Maybe both meanings true?   (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-060518153110.png&hash=39d587c31b7f7e66b30d7e59bb560e2ad0662eee) When some leaders boss other people, make more rules, then leaders begin to have group follow them, not follow Holy Spirit. If leaders tell followers they are free to sin because Christ makes them free, then leaders are leading to sin, not leading to God. Easy to understand Christ very angry with them.

http://setterfield.org/Nicolaitians.html
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But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate. -- Revelation 2:6

So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. --  Revelation 2:15
Title: He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire hi
Post by: AGelbert on December 14, 2019, 01:24:47 pm
Agelbert NOTE About Jesus Christ's Homo SAP physical appearance: Yes, we Homo SAPS tend to picture our God(s) in the most hyped and glorified appearance possible according to our own provincial, narrow, racist, 'take care o' yer own' (and so on) prejudices.  (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-200714183312.bmp&hash=02dafef2fe739676600fdc9bd56271f0f5ab3723)

BUT, the Judeo Christian Bible, according to the prophet Isaiah, stated that Jesus Christ was UGLY, as well as POOR and not particularly popular either.
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Isaiah 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

No one really has a literal view of Scripture, no matter where on the spectrum one falls, every interpretation must allow for figurative language. But in the above case, I believe the only interpretation that is logical is the literal one. Of course ;), the fact that Jesus Christ did not show up for centuries after Isaiah's prophecies is an excuse (rather tawdry, but they'll use it anyway (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-200714183312.bmp&hash=02dafef2fe739676600fdc9bd56271f0f5ab3723)) to claim that God did NOT reveal the future to Isaiah because, uh, God doesn't exist and Isaiah was smokin' some great stuff! (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-200714191329.bmp&hash=4764bfbe6bb0e11ca61102efa97a932a824f47e0).

Yes, that passage has been interpreted (wrongly, I think  :() as a reference to what Jesus Christ looked like when he was being punched, whipped, poked and beaten to a pulp. I disagree. The prophetic link of that passage to the crucifixion does NOT justify claiming the Lamb of God (i.e. a  perfect PHYSICALLY unblemished and SPIRITUALLY sinless specimen of Homo SAPdom) looked like Michelangelo's handsome side kick.

I believe that the Shroud of Turin is an extremely accurate representation of Jesus Christ (i.e. a run of the mill Jew). There was nothing special in Jesus Christ's appearance.
Title: Golgotha means a Rounded Hilltop, like a human skull Neurocranium, NOT a complete skull
Post by: AGelbert on January 12, 2020, 02:04:46 pm
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Golgotha Location – The Place of the Skull
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The Gospel texts identify the location where the Romans carried out crucifixions as Golgotha – which, in Latin, translates as, “Calvary.” In Aramaic, Golgotha means the “place of the skull.”

The location for Golgotha was identified in ancient writings as a hill resembling a skullcap -- the top of a skull -- rather than the face of a skull. Additionally, all four Gospels refer to the hill using the Greek word “kranion,” meaning cranium or upper part of the skull. Therefore, it was probably a rounded hill. The mistaken understanding of the place referring to the face of a skull has lead to misidentifications over the centuries.

According to the Gospels, the Golgotha location was near the city, but outside the city walls, outside “the gate.” It was a location that was accessible to people walking by on a road, and it could be seen from far away. The traditional location of Golgotha and the crucifixion of Jesus was established when Helena of Constantinople came to Jerusalem in the 4th century AD and stated that the crucifixion had occurred on a specific hill, which was supposedly “about a stone’s throw” from where the tomb of Jesus was situated.

Today, this site is known as the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, which was built over Jesus’ tomb, and eventually the complex was expanded to include the traditional Golgotha location.

https://www.drivethruhistory.com/golgotha-location/
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Jerusalem at the Time of Jesus (please observe where the North arrow is)
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1.  The Temple   2. Southern Wall and Royal Stoa   11. The Mount of Olives  13. The Kidron Valley  15. City of David (Mt. Ophel)

17. The Pool of Siloam  18. The Tyropoean Valley  20. Lower City (Poor section)  23. Upper City (Wealthy section)

24.  David's Tomb 27.  The Theater  28. The Market Place 29. Herod's Palace  36. Antonia Fortress (NT - Castle)


 
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Ariel view (below) of the modern location of the City of David (Ophel) - Looking from South to North.  The white broken-line is where the ancient city of David was located (which is outside the city wall today).  The gold domed building is the Muslim shrine called the Dome of the Rock.  It is surrounded by ancient retaining wall of the Herodian Temple mount.  This picture gives distance perspective.  The Kidron valley can be seen on the left side.
 
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Title: Proverbs 27:19
Post by: AGelbert on January 13, 2020, 12:33:04 pm
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Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on January 17, 2020, 12:21:16 pm
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Title: as a bowing wall shall ye be, and as a tottering fence.
Post by: AGelbert on January 31, 2020, 01:18:56 pm
How long will ye imagine mischief against a man? ye shall be slain all of you: as a bowing wall shall ye be, and as a tottering fence. -- Psalm 62 verse 3

New Section of  (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frenewablerevolution.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-270117175421.png&hash=cf39e823dd9156833bfa885808a876bf518bd0d6) Trump’s ‘Virtually Impenetrable’ Wall Gets Blown Over by Wind in California (http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/new-panel-of-trump-border-wall-blown-over-by-california-wind.html)

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God is talking to 🦀 Mr. Trump, who will, as he has done thoughout his life, not listen.



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Title: Re: as a bowing wall shall ye be, and as a tottering fence.
Post by: Surly1 on January 31, 2020, 01:26:36 pm

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God is talking to 🦀 Mr. Trump, who will, as he has done thoughout his life, not listen.

Nope. Not a syllable. In that regard he reminds me of Stalin, who, when informed that the Pope has expressed displeasure at a military move, replied, "And how many divisions does the Pope command?"
Title: Evidence of Evil Spirits targeting TPTB MORE than any other cohort in humans society
Post by: AGelbert on January 31, 2020, 04:01:37 pm

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God is talking to 🦀 Mr. Trump, who will, as he has done thoughout his life, not listen.

Nope. Not a syllable. In that regard he reminds me of Stalin, who, when informed that the Pope has expressed displeasure at a military move, replied, "And how many divisions does the Pope command?"

Stalin's ideology is a nearly perfect fit with Trump's ideology, in that both of them worshipped at the altar of "might equals right". 

But then, that is the 😈 altar most people on Earth worship at, regardless of the lip service to a deity given by assorted (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.createaforum.com%2Fgallery%2Frenewablerevolution%2F3-241013183046.jpeg&hash=51c9c4f17e747698c76c65c7c1814eff4f32c400) religious leaders and their, mostly pharisaic, followers.

So, Trump is certainly not an outlier in being a functional atheist. Most people in the USA believe that money isn't everything, but it is way ahead of whatever is in second place. That is the spiritually depraved norm here and that is the norm in the human species. The deliberately unethical wanton destruction caused by every successful empire with several divisions at their command throughout history evidences that.

Psychologists have determined, from repeated scientific studies, that humans are "wired" for empathy. This trait produces socially beneficial behavior such as altruism.

Empathy is the basis of ethical behavior. Ethical behavior tempers the "money is numero uno" greed reflex common to the human species. All these conclusions by social science academia deny the existence of evil as a spiritual force in human affairs. The concept of "evil" (i.e. invisible demonic spirit entities destructively influencing human behavior) is relegated to the realm of superstition, irrelevant to the "reality" of the materialist atheistic world view that "the human body is exclusively an organic machine that evolved from random BENEFICIAL mutations that gave the species enough evolutionary advantages to DOMINATE (SEE: Might equals RIGHT) all other earthly species". What's wrong with this picture? Plenty.

The very same psychologists that believe humans became "apex predators" through successful DOMINATION (i.e killing off or taming) of all competing life forms, believe the exception to the "rule" that humans are "wired" for empathy are the sociopaths and psychopaths. Cruel Predators like Stalin, Trump and Hitler are three examples of humans apparently not "wired for empathy". Yet, as the quote you gave from Stalin irrefutably evidences, Trump is a nearly perfect example of a person totally motivated by the quest for successful DOMINATION (i.e killing off or taming) of all competing life forms through FORCE. An objective evolutionary biologist would have to admit that, not only is Trump's mens rea modus operandi murderous belligerence a "successful evolutionary strategy", but the fact that fraud (SEE: trap door spiders that catch unwary insects, snakes with tails that look like a spider in order to catch eagles when they get too close, etc.) is cleverly interwoven into his force and fraud MO augments his "evolutionary advantages".

If it weren't for the "pesky" fact the "business as usual" climate trashing behavior embraced by Trump, Wall Street and nearly 100% of the profit over planet oligarchs, hell bent on doubling down on the biosphere trashing course that served their short term sociopathic greed based pecuniary interests so well, evolutionary biologists would be forced to conclude that the MO of Trump could not be viewed as anything but that of a "successful apex predator".

THAT is the conundrum that those who continue to cling to the "humans are an organic machine" world view are faced with.

These overeducated scientists, rather than admit that biochemistry is not sufficent to explain species endangering human behavior, and that something not scientifically measurable is causing apparently rational "evolutionarily successful apex predator" humans (i.e. Trump, the 1%, Wall Steet, Capitalists, etc.) to irrationally doom the human species by their thoroughly flawed "might equals right" world view, they resort to the Darwinian claim that if we shoot ouselves in the biosphere foot (and head), we don't "deserve" to exist.

IOW, these "rational" 🙈🙉🙊 scientists, in the face of all the irrationally destructive behavior by TPTB, as evidenced by Trump, flat refuse to recognize even the possibility that EVIL spirits, hell bent on destroying God's created beings in rebellion to the Creator God, are concentrating their corrupting actvities on the leaders of human society.

There is ZERO genetic evidence that there are a greater percentage of BORN sociopaths among the rich and influential humans in our doomed civilization than in the population as a whole. Yet, the "wired" for empathy tests evidence that the overwhelming majority of humans are NOT greedy to the point of enthusiastic support for climate trashing profit over planet. The only logical conclusion that a truly objective social scientist could reach from this genetic evidence is that SOMETHING or SOMEBODY targets targets anyone that makes it into TPTB far more than any other segment of the human species.

IOW, these scientists, watching the biosphere be delibrately destroyed by a tiny sliver of humanity known as TPTB, refuse to accept that evil spirits are at work corrupting TPTB because it makes a mockery of their Darwinian "Might Equals Right" flawed world view. "Nothing to see here, move along. Trump is nuts to want to destroy the biosphere for profit but it's just the way an apex predator is... Trump, like Stalin and Hitler, has all those military divisions to prove he is an evolutionary success... Might equals right... Darwin said so, so it must be so..." 

 
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Title: The Lord's Prayer In A Pandemic
Post by: AGelbert on March 26, 2020, 05:57:16 pm
The Lord's Prayer In A Pandemic

Jim Wallis

The Lord’s Prayer, which Jesus told his disciples to regularly pray, is the most common prayer offered in our churches today. We recognize these words when we hear them in our houses of worship and pray them in our own households, with our families, and privately in our hearts. Many of our traditions include The Lord’s Prayer each Sunday, and it is likely being repeated more and more often during the COVID-19 pandemic, even as congregations meet virtually.

As President Trump has said he’d like to see “packed churches all over our country” on Easter Sunday to help him reopen the country and restart the economy, which he apparently thinks will help him get re-elected, we need the words of the Lord’s Prayer more than ever. The call to reopen comes despite the exact opposite instructions from health care professionals, along with governors and mayors across our nation, to maintain our social distance and closures until the dangers of this (https://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/2/3-220320175618.png) modern plague are past us. Trump’s reckless invitation to take our worship and prayers back into our churches before it is safe to do so is not only monstrous political irresponsibility, but religious sacrilege.

I predict that legions of pastors, priests, and lay church leaders will ultimately ignore 🦀 Trump’s alarming advice, instead continuing to take their faith and worship virtual for the sake of healing the nation. Sojourners supports you in publicly saying “no” to Trump’s dangerous call — we've been collecting resources and guides to help you and your congregations gather safely. And we’ll be offering more opportunities to reach out to each other and speak out against reckless leadership in the coming days.

READ THE FULL ARTICLE (https://sojo.net/articles/lords-prayer-pandemic)

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Title: He is Risen ✨
Post by: AGelbert on April 12, 2020, 01:45:32 pm
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Luke 24 King James Version (KJV)
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8 And they remembered his words,
9 And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10 It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11 And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass.
13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
16 But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
17 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
18 And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?
19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
22 Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre;
23 And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.
24 And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.
29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.
30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
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44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.


John 21 King James Version (KJV)
1 After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.
2 There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his disciples.
3 Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they caught nothing.
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4 But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
5 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
6 And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.
7 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea.
8 And the other disciples came in a little ship; (for they were not far from land, but as it were two hundred cubits,) dragging the net with fishes.
9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.
11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.
12 Jesus saith unto them, Come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask him, Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
13 Jesus then cometh, and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish likewise.
14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

Acts 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven
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Title: Paul's Journey to Rome
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Acts 27:18-20 And we being exceedingly tossed with a tempest, the next day they lightened the ship; And the third day we cast out with our own hands the tackling of the ship. And when neither sun nor stars in many days appeared, and no small tempest lay on us, all hope that we should be saved was then taken away.


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Luke's excellent historical and nautical record of Paul's voyage to Rome and final scene preaching and teaching while awaiting trial. (Acts 27:1-28:31)
Title: Will 🐍 Psychopaths be Judged the Same?
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20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 47)
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0:00 - Introduction

1. 0:23 {Will 🐍 Psychopaths be Judged the Same?} It has recently been scientifically proven that many psychopaths have a physical brain alteration that doesn't allow their synapses to receive the neuron chemicals for emotions such as sympathy. Oftentimes, they become violent criminals or even murderers. Will they be judged by God the same as any other person, even though they have something physiologically wrong with them?

2. 8:03 {What do Miracles/Healing Depend On?} If one were to pray over someone for a miracle or for healing, what would the chances of it working depend on? Jesus said that it depends on faith. Does it also depend on being a relatively righteous person?

3. 15:07 {About Glorified Bodies/Resurrection} If our bodies are glorified at the rapture, what happens to those people who are saved post-rapture? Is there a second resurrection?

4. 17:19 {About the Moral Argument} My brother has a very biblical worldview despite being an agnostic (in terms of homosexuality and celibacy, etc.) based on science. How do I prove that morality comes from God?

5. 26:41 {Is Everyone Claiming to be Saved Really Saved?} Paul Washer said that Matthew 7: 13-14 is not about Christians and non-Christians, but rather, real Christians and Christians who think they’re saved. He says many who think they are saved aren’t really saved. Thoughts?

6. 32:26 {About Giving Everything for the Lord} If salvation is a free gift and not by works, then why does Jesus say those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples? How do we know when we have given up everything?

7. 38:53 {Honesty vs. Kindness?} Where do you draw the line between honest communication about things that bother you about something someone does, and “dying to self” if the person is a very close friend/loved one/spouse?

8. 44:09 {About Demons and The Nephilim} Are demons the spirits of dead Nephilim? Genesis 6 explains that the Nephilim are the offspring of women and angels. Demons never materialize, but we know angels can. Luke 22:3 is not convincing to me.

9. 48:04 {Can We Love Truth More than God?} Can I be a truth-seeker and a good Christian? Is it possible to love the truth more than God, considering that Jesus is the truth?

10. 55:35 {About the Sun Standing Still – Josh. 10} What do you think really happened during "the long day" in Joshua 10 during the battle between Israel and the armies of the 5 kings when "the sun stood still, and the moon stopped"?

11. 58:20 {About the OT Law & Sacrifices vs. Faith} Why was the old covenant law set up to require animal sacrifice, since we see Abraham was atoned for by his faith in the promise to come of what was Jesus (dimly perceived)?

12. 1:03:22 {Bethel Worship Music?} Can I keep listening to Bethel’s music, given the intent (as far as I understand) to invoke emotional responses? I want to avoid the idol of “emotional highs,” but I still see value in their music.

13. 1:07:03 {About the 153 Fish in John} In John 21, it is written that Peter caught 153 "large fish" and that "although there were so many, the net was not torn." Is there a message or theme John was conveying here?

14. 1:12:01 {Leaving a Church the Biblical Way} How do I go about leaving my church? Do I talk to my leaders? Do I have to explain why? What do I need to do to make sure that I do it the right way?

15. 1:16:28 {About the Dead Jesus Raised} Where did all the people that Jesus and the disciples raised from the dead go while they were dead? I would hate to think they were in Paradise somewhere, then had to come back.

16. 1:19:05 {About Asking for Forgiveness/Mark of the Beast} A popular internet ministry says Jesus never said we need to ask for forgiveness and the Bible doesn’t mention it. Is that true? They also say it’s impossible for a Christian to take mark of the beast. Is that true?

17. 1:24:00 {Why Keep the L.E. of Mark in the Bible?} If the longer ending of Mark isn't original, nor written by Mark, how is keeping it in the Bible not diluting the Word of God and cheapening the meaning of "Scripture"?

18. 1:26:09 {Help During Trying Times of Doubt} Why can’t I trust Christ for complete forgiveness even though I fully believe every word in the Bible? Why won’t my heart allow me to enter salvation? Why doesn’t God seem to want to help me?

19. 1:31:35 {Jesus’ Deity & His Title of “Son of God”} If Jesus is God, then why do Paul and the Gospels often speak of them separately? What is the significant about the phrase "Son of God" being used for Jesus, since it is used for others, too?

20. 1:35:13 {“Hearing” God in Prayer/His Guidance in Life} When we pray, how do we "hear" God's reply? How can someone differentiate between hearing the voice of God and hearing their own thoughts? When I pray, I feel like it's just me. How can I make decisions if I don't know what God wants of me?

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Title: What do you do with someone irrationally claiming the Lord told him this or that?
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