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Author Topic: War Provocations and Peace Actions  (Read 20223 times)

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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2016, 05:13:44 pm »
In yet another surprise move, Putin announces the withdrawal of Russian forces from Syria.  The straightforward interpretation of this decision is, as he says, that the ceasefire is holding well enough for the political peace process to begin.  But Putin is anything but straightforward, and the ceasefire is shaky at best, and the peace conference is far from likely to achieve any outcome.

It puts pressure on Assad and the "moderate rebels" to be more accommodating at the talks, otherwise fighting is sure to resume.  Indirectly it puts pressure on the US too, but their influence over the moderate rebels is not as strong as they would like to make out.  And it does seem to take pressure off the US-supported "non-moderate rebels" or ISIS and Al Nusra and their backers, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

Perhaps this is about dumping the whole mess back in Obama's lap, as any fighting now is going to be all down to the US and its "allies", who are in total disagreement over what to do next.

https://www.rt.com/news/335554-putin-orders-syria-withdrawal/
Putin orders start of Russian military withdrawal from Syria, says ‘objectives achieved’
14 Mar, 2016

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu to start the withdrawal of forces from Syria starting Tuesday. Russia will however keep a military presence at the port of Tartus and at the Khmeimim airbase to observe ceasefire agreements.

“I consider the objectives that have been set for the Defense Ministry to be generally accomplished. That is why I order to start withdrawal of the main part of our military group from the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic starting from tomorrow,” Putin said on Monday during a meeting with Shoigu and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

"In a short period of time Russia has created a small but very effective military group [in Syria]... the effective work of our military allowed the peace process to begin," Putin said, adding that with the assistance of the Russian Air Force "Syrian government troops and patriotic forces have changed the situation in the fight with international terrorism and have ceased the initiative."

To control the observation of ceasefire agreements in the region, Moscow will keep its Khmeimim airbase in Latakia province and a base at the port of Tartus, Putin said.

At Moscow's initiative, a phone conversation between Vladimir Putin and Syria's President Bashar Assad was held on Monday evening, the Kremlin reported.

The two leaders agreed that the actions of Russia's Air Force in Syria have allowed them to "profoundly reverse the situation" in connection to fighting terrorists in the region, having "disorganized militants' infrastructure and inflicted fundamental damage upon them."

Bashar Assad has recognized the “professionalism, courage and heroism” of Russian Army soldiers and officers, who have taken part in the military action, thanking Russia not only for extensive help in the fight against terrorism, but also for providing humanitarian aid and assistance to the Syrian civilian population.

The Syrian leader also stressed its readiness to engage in the political process in Syria as soon as possible, the Kremlin said.

Russia's president also addressed his foreign minister. He had tasked Lavrov with intensifying Russia's participation in the peace process to solve the Syrian crisis, the Kremlin reported.

Moscow launched its anti-terror campaign in Syria on September 30 last year. Russia’s participation in the operation, according to a previous statement by Putin, has its basis in international law and has been conducted “in accordance with an official request from the president of the Syrian Arab Republic [Bashar Assad].”

The Russian Air Force has been carrying out airstrikes against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and other terrorist targets in the region, eliminating military equipment, communication centers, vehicles, arms and fuel depots.


It's not a surprise to me. It's also not a surprise to me that Erdogan just had the war come home to Turkey. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/ankara-bombing-one/2600226.html?cx_tag=trendingworld&cid=tg:recos:trendingworld:standard#cxrecs_s

Russia might or might not be behind this terrorist attack. I tend to think, like I told Surly a while ago when you and other people wrongly thought that WWIII was going to be triggered in Syria, that the generals in Turkey have simply sent the message to their jackals that it is time to "undermine" the confidence in Erdogan, for Turkey's own good and to return the country to sanity. Please note the date on the following post. I anticipated correctly what has transpired, whether you want to accept that, or not.   


Week Eighteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria: A Dramatic Escalation Appears Imminent

    Excellent article. The Saker knows his stuff.

My only observation is that Russia is in a better position than the "coalition" to maintain air superiority. Unless somebody in the US oligarchy wants a shooting war with Russia based on lots of dead coalition troops, they will muzzle Turkey. Erdogan is in a precarious position in his country and he knows it. Sure, it would be just like him to try to invade in order to prevent his ouster due to the continued exposure of his massive corruption. But if that is green lighted by our knuckle draggers in the MIC, Erdogan is the designated fall guy because his troops will have their asses handed to them. I'm sure he has a few generals under him that may decide discretion is the better part of valor and act to depose Erdogan on some exposed corruption. Erdogan has so many skeletons in his closet that he could corner the calcium market in turkey!

Here's what Saker is missing. The MAIN reason all this S H I T goes on down there is because of a resource of polluting energy called oil. Russia has lots of oil and gas and Saker sees them the way the Russian government sees them (allegedly valuable energy sources).

Saker, therefore, does NOT see the connection between cratering fossil fuel prices worldwide and the coming peace in that region. I do.

It ain't about religion, no matter what we have been told. It never was. It's about "national interests".  "National interests" in the coalition are ALL ABOUT VALUABLE energy or mineral sources, PERIOD.

When something (that the MIC has been coveting and fighting over since Standard Oil took over most of this country's foreign policy predatory piggery) is no longer very valuable, the wind goes out of the sails of the Wall Street Greed MACHINE behind EVERY military action since WWII. Yes the doffense contractors will lose some money, but they were never in the driver's seat of our foreign policy, despite their war profiteering MO in every war this country has been involved with. The fossil fuel industry has DOMINATED US foreign policy for well over a century. And the fossil fuel industry is STRONG in Russia. So, they are as much stuck in their "real world" as the coalition is.

The bottom line is that people fight over valuable stuff. There is no money in fighting over oil producing regions anymore. This is BASIC game theory. Our MIC bases ALL its plans and actions on game theory, unlike Russia. The MONEY is now, because of the high tech snooping of everybody and his mother now available, in nickel and diming we-the-sheeple 24/7. It's mostly invisible and it keeps the oligarchs in place. The MIC is happy as long s they can "justify" the giant logistics swag they now enjoy required to operate all their bases. The MIC will, of course, continue to occasionally terrorize and butcher a few humans here and there to make sure congress doesn't forget the, uh, "national security" justification for the humongous budget we-the-suckers must provide for these Welfare Queens with very big teeth. The MIC is just as happy not having to lose any people in wars if the swag keeps coming in. And the weapons makers too because the military practices a LOT blowing stuff up and shooting bullets. Their Wall Street backed "business model" works great as long as we-the=suckers in the USA swallow their "national security" propaganda. I'm sure Lockheed Martin is grateful to all of us for helping fund their solar panel infrastructure improvements that will provide Renewable energy based electrical power for their weapons making factories.  ::)

I predict peace in Syria punctuated by occasional incursions from Israeli jets to keep the money flowing from our gooberment to our pet "democracy" (Israeli Oligarchy). Our favorite mediaeval Sheikdom of butchers and perverts (the Saudis) will join in on the fun with token incursions to keep our money flowing to them too. After all, they have been loyal servants of Big Oil for many years. We must do all we can to bolster their efforts to pump oil out of the ground with solar panel generated electricity. We wouldn't want them to lose money, now would we?  ;)     


As they used to say in my Russian Language classes at West Point, Klass Konchen (класс распущен).
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

 

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