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The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« on: October 28, 2013, 11:59:25 pm »
The secret lives of plants
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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2014, 10:50:24 pm »

http://www.the-scientist.com/images/January2014/plant2_full.pdf

Move over "grape vine" communication simplicity, Learn about the plant internet!


This is plainly an altruistic mechanism because it does not stop the harm being done to the plant getting attacked by climate or a predator. It only warns the others nearby who then ramp up their own defenses. It's a TOTALLY UNSELFISH act.  :o  ;D

How signaling compounds zip along these fungal networks IS, UH, NOT CLEAR...  ;D ALSO "not clear" is how these signals USED by plants unrelated to the FUNGUS "evolved". They find it "debatable" BECAUSE the "evolutionary" DISTANCE between plants and (Primitive) fungi is rather large, not to mention the "what's in it for me" factor that doesn't seem to exist.  LOL!

And then there is the GIANT bag of worms for evolutionists that plants (no central nervous system and therefore PRIMITIVE by Darwinian standards of evolution) have FAR MORE DNA than WE DO! 

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38729/title/Genomes-Gone-Wild/

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... no experiment has yet demonstrated that volatile signaling between neighboring plants can benefit the emitting plant, prompting some researchers to suggest that “eavesdropping” is a more accurate description of what has been observed than “intentional” communication.

Either way, researchers who doubt that plants would have evolved to be altruistic have ruminated on the old question of the evolutionary origins of the phenomenon.


Altruism and Darwinism have NEVER GOTTEN ALONG. ANY TIME an evolutionary true believer runs into altruism ( an evolutionary DISadvantage as opposed to the apex predator selfish "evolutionary advantage" behavior), they go TILT!
 


http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38727/title/Plant-Talk/

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Evidence of healthy soil
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2014, 09:02:04 pm »
Evidence of healthy soil

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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 01:41:01 am »
Mycologist Paul Stamets is doing great things for the biosphere.


In the last 20 years it has been discovered that plants are so intimately connected to fungi that without the mycelium aiding plant growth, plants of all types grow poorly.

A type of fungi in Chernobyl can actually use gamma radiation like our skin uses UV sunlight to make vitamin D (but the fungi makes nutrients instead). This is the first known use of a life form obtaining nutrition from gamma radiation.

A type of fungi concentrates radioactive Cesium-137 in surrounding soils onto itself, thereby making it possible for forest surrounding land to regenerate.

Paul is working on a plan to grow old forest within 100 miles of Fukushima starting with a mycelium radiation absorbing and soil cleansing network.

Oyster mushrooms turn toxic hydrocarbons into carbohydrates to clean up soils with oil contamination. After the BP oil spill, Paul designed floating oyster mushroom booms to bioremediate coastal marshes.

Paul explains how Turkey mushroom healed his mother of terminal cancer metastasized from the breast to the lymphatic system to the sternum, bones and liver.

This video is long and detailed. He reveals that, to this day, a full 73% of anti-cancer drugs are NATURAL non-patentable, something big pharma does NOT want you to know about.

He explains the powerful anti-fecal coliform and anti-pathogenic bacterial action of mycelium inoculated soil to the point of cleaning water without chemical treatment despite having a farm with cows and chickens.

There is a lot here. I recommend you listen closely. It is absolutely packed with useful information like the fact that the ice man (Neolithic well preserved man about 10,000 years old found in a glacier) carried two types of mushrooms vital to his existence that are still important to us today.

This man has most of the answers we need for how to de-toxify our world.    I hope somebody gets him the ten million dollars he needs to really get his patented mycelium products out there.
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Paul Stamets has come up with a lot of mycelium products for permaculture that he markets.

I noticed in his talk that he refuses to work with Monsanto  even though he is in contact with most soil product chemical producers.  ;D

The pentagon told him he was way ahead of them in antimicrobial products to fight biowarfare and insect disease vectors in bird flu, malaria and small pox, to name a few.

He figured out a way to cultivate mycelium with delayed sporulation. This was the key to carpenter ants and termites in houses to NOT realize it was toxic to them. They would take the rice coated in the fungi to the nests and become infected.

Paul makes it clear he does not want to hurt nature. His products are for insect control inside human dwellings. His products don't affect bees. In fact they kill the parasites that honeybee keepers now try to control with chemical pesticides!

Paul mentions how termites are so fastidious about keeping fungi that kills them out of the nest or mound that two termite guards at the entrance will, if a termite  returning to the nest has fungi  spores on it (spores have a strong smell), take the termite to the "garbage" area, decapitate it, and commit suicide. Two other guards instantly take their place.

I love to hear this man talk. He is a walking nature encyclopedia and he really does respect nature.


This is his web site with some cool stop action videos. Check it out! Write about your experiences with his products and post them here if you wish.

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About Fungi Perfecti


Fungi Perfecti® is a family-owned, environmentally friendly company specializing in using mushrooms to improve the health of the planet and its people. Founded by mycologist and author Paul Stamets in 1980, we are leaders in a new wave of technologies harnessing the inherent power of mushrooms and mycelium worldwide. Fungi Perfecti is Certified Organic by the Washington State Department of Agriculture.

http://www.fungi.com/
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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2014, 10:49:12 pm »
Eight Month Period Time-Lapse Video of Acorn Growth

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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2014, 06:29:42 am »
Enjoying this thread, AG.

Paul Stamets is probably 100 years ahead of the culture in terms of what he is working on. Easy to see how monied status quo interests would be arrayed against him. These discoveries are bad for business.

REALLY enjoyed the "Acorn" movie. I am left wondering, "How did Bromhall do that?"

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2014, 04:20:28 pm »
Yeah, I asked myself the same question about how he did that. I think he shot a picture at exactly the same time each day or every two or three days, ensuring it was NOT a cloudy day when he did it. He must have been using a light meter to make sure the light conditions were pretty much the same each picture. As you know a change in light is very distracting in a time sequence. It took eight months and he shifted the camera a couple of times but it came out great. I hope he is still tracking that oak. A 10 year time sequence would be spectacular.

I was absolutely fascinated by the way the oak leaves (notice their rounded lobes - that identifies the type of oak - I think it's Quercus alba) appeared to be flapping as if trying to fly up to the sky. Sorry Surly (not  ;D), for me, watching God's life forms in action is a religious experience.


Quercus alba
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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 06:35:34 pm »
10 Incredible Plant Facts You Didn’t Know
By Kevin Mathews
1. The earth has more than 80,000 species of edible plants. 

2. Ninety percent of the foods humans eat come from just 30 plants.

3. Nutrition doesn’t factor into the crops we do mass produce.


4. 70,000 plant species are utilized for medicine. 


5. Only one percent of rainforest plants have been studied for medicinal potential.  :o


6. Eighty percent of the Earth’s original forests have been cleared or destroyed.   


7. Just 10 percent of the world’s plant-rich areas are protected. 


8. More than half of plant species are native to just one country. 


9. Sixty eight percent of plants are in danger of going extinct. 

10. Plant species are going extinct—about 5,000 times faster than they should. 


Details on all the above at link below:
http://ecowatch.com/2013/12/31/10-incredible-plant-facts/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=10-incredible-plant-facts
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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2014, 03:29:48 pm »
A routine day on the red planet.  ;D  Do Martians Socotrans have a secret?

The Strange and Unique Plant Life of the Island of Socotra


The 'Lost World' of Socotra. Just look at that landscape and tell me you don't think a T-Rex would fit right in! Sorry, no T-Rexes but there are plenty of strange life forms there.

Did they ever have T-Rexes here? That's a known unknown.  ;)  We will never know if they had T-Rexes on Mars because the, uh, Martians Socotrans won't tell.   
 
Socotra - The Island Of Wonder

Socotra island is one of the strangest places in the world. Everything about the island is strange, its landscape, plants and its animals. The flora and fauna on Socotra island is considered the 'jewel' of biodiversity. The plants are all funny looking and have weird structure. Some animals on the island are slightly bigger and scarier, like crabs and other animals. The landscape is weird and you feels like you are on an alien planet.




Eden TWO?

🤔 

Nate's Nonsense


Yup, we're from Mars too!  ;D No, we aren't feeling blue! >:( (Primates of Socotra)

We managed to save most of our on board Martian plants when we crash landed here about 6,000 years ago...  ;D

Dragon Blood Tree   ???

Martians Socotrans like good views. It ain't Olymbus Mons, but we make do. 8)

I may be a big crab but have a nice personality and am never crabby.  ;D


One THIRD of the flora on Socotra Grows NOWHERE ELSE ON EARTH.

The largest collection of rarest plants on earth is found on the island of Socotra, located in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Yemen. Socotra is home to approximately 800 species of plants, and over 33% of them are thought to be unique to the island and not found anywhere else in the world.

The island’s collection of rare plants is generally not seen by many tourists because the island belongs to Yemen, which has very strict regulations regarding tourists. In 2008, Socotra was named as a Natural World Heritage Site by United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), which recognizes natural geographical phenomenon.

More about the plants of Socotra:

Dorstenia gigas (Life was tough on Mars. Here it's a walk in the park!)

Dorstenia gigas (Look Ma, no SOIL!)

The Socotra fig tree Dorstenia gigas is thought to not require soil to grow and samples have even been found to grow against limestone rock. :o

Dorstenia gigas 31cm tall x 6cm at soil level. Bud detail.

Some of the plant species native to Socotra are thought to date back over 20 million years. Agelbert Note: ONLY the Martians Socotrans know for sure and they won't tell!

The island’s Dragon Blood Tree was named by traders who thought the plant’s red sap was actually the blood of the dragon. Agelbert NOTE: Hello? Angry Red Planet, anyone?  When ya come from a red planet, ya have color coded SAP!

Local "Humans" in a Dragon Blood Tree. We Martians Socotrans color code our kids too. After all, offspring should  know where they came from. 

http://www.wisegeek.com/where-is-the-largest-collection-of-rarest-plants-found.htm

Final NOTE: Any similarity between the humor above and fossil fueler, GW denier "logic" is deliberate.

The BIG difference is that I'm trying to be funny, not ridiculous!


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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 09:52:27 pm »
Darwin was WRONG about Plant life.


Do Trees Communicate in order to COOPERATE rather than COMPETE?   ???

Yes They Do 
All Of Life Works Together

 "These trees are not individuals in the sense that Darwin thought they were individuals competing for survival of the fittest. In fact they're interacting with each other trying to help each other survive." says Professor Suzanne Simard in this enlightening clip about communication between trees in the forest.

 It's not "language" as we know it, but it is language in the oldest form. Chemical language! They are sending messages to each other so that they can both survive. 

 A network spanning the forest connects one plant to another plant through fungi. The trees shuffle carbon and nitrogen back and forth according to who needs it.

 All of nature is working together, in symbiosis so that life can thrive. We unlock secrets one at a time, as we observe, in awe.   

 --Bibi Farber
- See more at: http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/interesting--other/do-trees-communicate.html#sthash.r2B2SywI.dpuf
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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 12:31:44 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOgP5NzcTuA&x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&feature=player_embedded
"Parasitic" wasps cause Oak trees to "build" wasp cribs (galls - they taste bitter too!) on the leaves and wood. The tree is unharmed. The wasps get their "houses". 

Agelbert NOTE: Right behind my house I have some Hamamelis virginiana (witch hazel) trees that get galls on their leaves as well. But those are for a type of moth. It seems insects and trees are symbiotic, not "parasitic", as this video claims. Trees and plants NEED insects for pollination. Trees providing shelter for insects and their offspring is a mark of symbiotic cooperation.  
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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2015, 06:01:55 pm »
Oak trees should NEVER be cut down for wood or any other reason.
When Do Oak Trees Produce the Most Acorns?  ???


Deer and Oak tree


Red Oak tree (also known as Deer Oak) acorns

Oak trees produce the most acorns once they reach 50 years old.  :o Acorns are the reproductive nuts of oak trees, and the rate of acorn growth continues until the oak trees are approximately 80 years old before it gradually declines.

It takes an average of about 20 years before an oak tree even begins to produce acorns. Mass acorn production generally occurs every 2 to 5 years.




Since acorns are heavier than other plant seeds, oak trees cannot rely on the wind to spread them out to grow new trees. Instead, acorn dispersal is largely due to squirrels and jay birds collecting acorns and spreading them out to grow.

More about acorns:


•A liquid extracted from acorns was thought to be a cure for alcohol addiction in the 1600s. (Agelbert Note: It probably wasn't the acorn juice, but the threat of a person who liked booze being forced to take a swig of those bitter and stomach turning tannins in acorn juice, that did the trick  ;)  ;D)


   
Over 100 different animal species include acorns as a major component of their diets. This includes deer, squirrels, wild turkeys, rabbits, blue jays, and raccoons.



Dotorink

•A Korean jelly known as dotorimuk is made from acorn starch, and is generally served as a savory dish combined with scallions, carrots, and sesame seeds.

http://www.wisegeek.com/when-do-oak-trees-produce-the-most-acorns.htm

Agelbert NOTE: Oak tree and multiple animal species fauna flora symbiosis is another example of the impossibility of flora to have 'evolved' millions of years PRIOR to the animals they REQUIRE (covering a lot more biological territory than pollination and seed dispersal) to survive and propagate. 
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Re: The Fabulous Plant Kingdom
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2015, 08:41:08 pm »

The healthy little bugs in the ground 
Soil and dirt, same thing, right?

 Wrong.

 Let's take a closer look.

 Dr. Elaine Ingham, a world renowned soil biologist and founder of the Sustainable Studies Institute and Soil Foodweb Inc., shows us just how vital healthy soil is to our soil, and to life on Earth itself.

 By taking good care of their soil, farmers and small growers can yield healthier crops in a higher abundance.

 It's all about the little bugs (good bugs!) that live inside the ground. 

http://www.therealfoodchannel.com/videos/farming-1/this-is-the-difference-between-soil-and-dirt.html

Agelbert NOTE: As the Dr. Ingham points out, WATCH the TEMPERATURE of your compost to make SURE the micro biota have enough oxygen to STAY AEROBIC.   

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