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Author Topic: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda  (Read 3590 times)

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AGelbert

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Re: Resisting Brainwashing Propaganda
« Reply #105 on: February 23, 2019, 12:42:54 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: Surly  continues to successfully expose Ashvin's 😈 disingenuous sophistry.

Are you so imprisoned by your ideology that you can't recognize these blessings?

Of course there is no guarantee these blessings will last, and we need to work hard to keep them in place. If either the radical right or your radical leftist buddies get what they are after, a bunch of them go out the window and we are left with brutal tyranny and mass death. To pretend like that's what we already have takes a huge sh it on the people who are truly suffering under tyrannies around the world.

IOW,  Capitalism, i.e.  , is "superior" to "Socialism" because it provides more material "blessings" than "Socialism".

Ashvin, if you are right about that, then most people now subject to unending misery and privation due to ruthless exploitation under the more ideologically pure versions of Capitalism, unlike the hybrid version in Denmark where millions of small businesses operate quite successfully under high taxation and socialst based subsidized college and medicine and successful prisoner rehabilitation, are doomed to greater misery, not more "blessings". Over 2 billion people, right now on this overwhelmingly CAPITALIST planet Earth, are zinc deficient. That is a DIRECT result of the present economic system you so celebrate.

I didn't mention capitalism at all in that post, and you KNOW that. Surly responded to my emphasis on constitutional republics, something he believes doesn't exist in the U.S., and I stayed on that same point. I specifically said "NOT capitalism" in my post. You conveniently left those parts out of your quotation of me. The principles of a constitutional republic are not absent in Denmark as far as I know.

NOW you wish to cite the sins of others for leaving out parts of a citation, when it is your MO and stock in trade? Moar projection, and soar greatest hits from the Prince of Lies. The fact is that you have extolled the blessings of capitalism with breathless enthusiasm in other posts, so it's hardly as if AG has taken you out of context. Liar.

You get one thing right: I do not believe we have a functional "constitutional republic," so much as a functional oligarchy. We observe the forms of the constitution, but not so much the function, as bequeathed by the "miracle working founders." Hamilton, et al wrote strong and specific Article One powers, which craven editions of the Congress, with a love of not voting on the record and an endless capacity for can-kicking, have ceded to the Executive Branch: the war powers, a functional immigration policy, all toward deferring to the power of the unitary executive. Certain executives, such as Cheney, have enthusiastically taken advantage of the the ability to thus wield power. Even Obama, who started out as conciliator, and as up governing by executive order far more that he might have liked in the face of an obstructionist Republican Congress whose stated purpose (from the night of his inauguration, and in so many words) was to destroy his presidency.

At the close of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787, as Benjamin Franklin left the hall in Philadelphia, he was asked, “What kind of government have you given us, Dr. Franklin?” He replied: “A republic, if you can keep it.” The Constitution is a remarkable document, one of the greatest fruits of The Enlightenment, and If you read the book Hamilton, you understand that its ratification by the 13 original states was by no means a sure thing.  As remarkable a document as it may be, it was George W. Bush who was reported in 2005 to have said, “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

Whether the anecdote is true of not, it speaks to the mindset inside the Beltway and of unitary executives.
Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life. Pr. 13:12

 

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