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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2014, 12:52:47 am »
Fresh from New York City comes the lawful, obedient and wonderful experience of a BLACK youth brutalized for the hell of it by police hoodlums!   >:(

Watch the video. enjoy the show. Don't forget to be a "GOOD GERMAN" and obey the laws because, uh, they are LAWFUL! And, um, ah, uh,  as long as you ain't black, it will NEVER BITE YA IN THE ASS. LOL! The Fourth Reich is HERE! 

While NYPD Police Commissioner William Bratton has taken the rather rare step of suspending David Afandor WITHOUT pay, Tyrane Isaac, who started the brutality and clearly demonstrated excessive and unnecessary force with the repeated punches to the face and body of Tribble, is just on modified duty WITH pay as is the other officer who did nothing to intervene or support this young victim of police violence.

Read more about this breaking story here and write Commissioner Bratton a tweet here to let him know how you feel and that you want him to keep his recent promise of firing the officers who are "poisoning the well—the brutal, the corrupt, the racist, the incompetent."[/size][/color][/quote]
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In the video below you are witnessing 16-year-old Kahreem Tribble of Brooklyn, New York, fully non-violent and surrendered, being brutally beaten with the fists of New York City Police Department Officer Tyrane Isaac, then smashed in the face with the loaded gun of NYPD Officer David Afanador.

Caught on hidden camera, NYPD officers beat surrendered, unarmed teenager with gun and fists


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/07/1334870/-Caught-on-hidden-camera-NYPD-officers-beat-surrendered-unarmed-teenager-with-gun-and-fists

Agelbert NOTE: And yeah!, SURE! If the kid had been white this would have happened EXACTLY the way it happened, RIGHT? 
And I would have ignored it because it was a white kid, RIGHT!!!? 


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Leges Sine Moribus Vanae, means "Laws without morals are useless".
Even so faith, if it has not works, is dead, being alone. James  2:17
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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2014, 02:04:41 am »
A proud Representative of the Ferguson Police Department appears satisfied with the Grand Jury deliberations.


Yeah, I'm blonde. Ya got a problem wid dat!!? We hire African Americans too (as long as they have blonde hair ;). Hey, don't look at me! I don't make the rules; I just enforce the LAW.  ;D )




Check out the NEW, APPROVED HANG OUT for our LAW ABIDING (whatever they **** DO, IS the LAW! - so there!    ) "honorable" police officers:







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The Grand Jury has, in their profound wisdom, and to preserve the domestic tranquility of the whitey citizens of Fergut-them-blackies, MO., issued guidelines for all citizens with more than a drop of black blood more than the "average" MeriKan     melanin concentration in order to avoid charges of assaulting police officers and gratuitous free, high speed bullets when driving anything other than a pizza delivery vehicle.  ;D






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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2014, 08:18:12 pm »
GO said,
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May I make a remark with regards to our mutual friend Ashvin? I really think you are going a bit rough on him in regards to this issue.

You are probably right. I can be a royal pain in ass at times.   

But here's the deal, GO. God has given Ashvin a mind, a fabulous talent for logic and a loquacious vocabulary for a purpose that goes way beyond a little pro bono work for the poor here and there. This man is brilliant. there is no question about that. That brilliance was given to him by God. Ashvin has a responsibility to go to bat against a fascist regime's brutality that is above ours BECAUSE he is a lawyer and BECAUSE he risks disbarment by fighting corruption.

Christ said we would have TRIBULATION in the world His statement that we should not despair because He has defeated the world has nothing to do with THIS life until His return. It's PAR FOR THE COURSE for a Christian to get shafted six ways from sunday defending truth and justice in a corrupt world. I've been there (often!  :( ).

Christianity is not now, or ever was, a walk in the park; it's HARD! The superb mind, talents and law degree Ashvin has are God given for a purpose in these dark times. With great talents come great responsibilities. Getting the big house, the car and the fat portfolio is nice, but not the sine qua non of a Lawyer in the Service of Christ; attacking injustice IS.

And we Christians are called to exhort each other to work as best we can for Christ. That's why I give you a hahd time every now and then.  :evil4: God put me here for many reasons, most of which I probably don't know. But it is quite possible that one my purposes is to remind you every now and then that gold ain't the only thing with REAL glitter for your soul. 

Just sayin'

As to MKing's baseless conclusions, the calm demeanor of a police officer is NOT the result of training, as MKing mistakenly assumes. As a pilot, I could do an engine out procedure in my sleep. This is what proper training for high stress situations enable you to do. But the cop here broke the law, period. There was no danger of assault. The cop acted, not passionately (which would HAVE made his behavior more appropriate) but CALMLY. That is EVIDENCE of malice and aforethought, regardless of what a lawyer for the cop might argue. I understand human nature quite well. When I trained pilots, I had to slap the white knuckled hands of students that had a death grip on the controls and tunnel vision from being overstressed. I KNOW how people behave when they are stressed and losing control versus when they are bastards doing the preplanned thing. I had a narcissistic student that wanted to solo in 7 hours so he would be the "best" in his Air Force ROTC group. This **** social climbing **** wasn't ready yet. I told him so. He kept pushing. So, having passed his ground reference maneuvers in the practice area (but still bothered about his cockiness - as a danger to himself) I had him start landing practice. He was quite good but still cocky as hell. MKing would, WRONGLY, say that's  a-****-okay. It's not. But MKing doesn't do introspection so he would not understand. In brief, cockiness in inexperienced pilots, no matter how much natural skill at piloting, is often, at best, a dinged airplane or, at worst, a death sentence.

Anyway, he did his touch and goes fine for an hour. The next lesson wast the 8th hour and he wanted to solo. He even brought his girlfriend to witness it from the ground. I said, we'll see. We did touch and goes and a few landings to a full stop and he was doing fine so, despite my misgivings with this c o c k y Air Force ROTC f u c k, I soloed him. He had to do three landings to a full stop and three takeoffs. While in the traffic pattern, several aircraft started showing up (all light planes at this airport). I began to worry. Radio chatter can make new pilots nervous. C o c k y bastards are NOT used to being nervous (they are naturally quite gifted so they think they can handle "whatever". When they get surprised, the nerves **** them up worse than those used to spotting their own deficiencies and acting accordingly). On the third landing the tower delayed landing clearance and he remained too high while on final approach (He was rather close to the plane landing in front). The tower offered for him to "Go Around" (overfly the runway, fly the traffic pattern in a square and line up more comfortably. OF COURSE, our "super ace" said, NO PROBLEM! So there he came, diving with full flaps, eating up half the runway (and getting REAL NERVOUS but trying not to show it). He made a fine landing despite the high, fast approach...

But he was in a hurry. There was only a third of the runway left and he was making a touch and go...

So, he FORGOT to raise the flaps (he left them in the full flap position - this means the aircraft is much lighter over the runway and will respond to propeller torque and P-factor changes more quickly). He applied full power and the plane swung to the left. He panicked, cut the power and braked and the plane swung HARDER in the OTHER direction. Pulling the power exacerbated the opposite torque effect which was amplified by the brakes. He applied power AGAIN while letting off the brakes and hitting left rudder and the plane swung HARD to the left. In his final, OH **** moment of defeat (not enough runway to take off), he pulls the power off and slams on the  brakes. AGAIN the plane swings HARD to the right and ground loops with his left wing scraping the ground and the entire aircraft (wheels and all!) off the ground in a severe right turn. I thought the plane was going to flip over. It had executed a complete turn facing the opposite direction, with an ever increasing bank angle, off the runway and on to the taxiway.

The plane sort of hovered there on its left wing for a second, then slammed down on the tricycle gear.

The s h i t eating grin on that c o c k y bastard's face instead of a repentant, 'I f u c k e d up' look, ended my training with him right there. He eventually soloed with another flight instructor LATER than his entire class of eight ROTC pilots.

Humility is required, not just for those of us average plodders, but for the MKings of this world. Not that it does any good to tell THEM that.

If that driver in the video above had been black, he would be dead. MKing is full of c o c k y S3 Baloney.  Then again, that driver is an execellent example of white privilege in action. If you think a black guy would get out of his car, argue with a cop there and ask, "What's wrong with you?" when a cop is pointing a weapon at him, then you must be in MKing's la-la land. 

   
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MKing,
As President Reagan used to say, "There you go again.  ;D". Hyperbole and extreme examples of irrational behavior are simply fallacious debating techniques. I'm surprised you have not called me a hypocrite for not asking everyone to "turn the other cheek", so to speak.  ;) But then, since you are a chief advocate of separation of "church" (i.e. morality, the golden rule, etc.  ;D) and state, I guess you wouldn't look too good counseling me to play dead and TAKE IT for Christ's sake.

Sigh.... ::) Mens rea, MKing, invoives malice and aforethought. It is the essence of the criminal mind and mindset. It involves premeditation, something that is regarded very seriously in, what used to be, our justice system.

WHY is that, MKing? Aren't you the guy always talking about "doing the math?". Isn't the illegal ACT (actus reus - action or conduct that is a constituent element of a crime, as opposed to the mental state of the accused.) the main issue in your DO THE MATH world? For YOU it is, maybe. And I know why.   

You have a modus operandi and modus vivendi that evidences mens rea in almost every statement you make about the fossil fuel industry, global warming, human rights, appropriate behavior for police, white privilege and abuse of minorities. 

It's all about where YOU are sitting, isn't it? You have money and benefit from the status quo. So, you "prudently" and ACTIVELY have set out to undermine anything that could "rock that boat".

You ponder and, with malice and aforethought, set out to use your keen intelligence, scientific knowledge, training and vocabulary to undermine the truth and deny the daily crimes being committed by the corrupt fascist, racist and fossil fuel oligarchic status quo. You are AIDING AND ABETTING criminality. You are a willing accessory to injustice and global crime. That means you have a GUILTY MIND.

You claim you are amoral. Of course! That way, you can justify absolutely any behavior, no matter how morally repugnant, because you have gotten away with it. How **** convenient! How Machiavellian.

My personal policy is to turn the other cheek and TAKE IT when dealing with EVERYBODY, not just the police. That said, I do not, and never will, find fault with a person who, if assaulted physically by a police officer, responds passionately (NO MENS REA THERE AT ALL - the natural human propensity to dislike being beaten and engage in instinctive defensive action is NOT a premeditated act and should NEVER be considered assault) by physically defending himself. It is a travesty of the law to call THAT an assault on a police officer. You know that. You just don't give a damn because it hasn't rung your personal bell yet.

All that said, I am in agreement with you and Ashvin that we'll never solve this problem by attempting to respond in kind if a police officer brutalizes us. I froze in position while a cop tried to entrap me into defending myself so he could assault me (see what an emperor penguin does when a leopard seal tries to take a bite out of it  ;D).

Nevertheless, it is our duty to defend any citizen that does so and to do everything we can to rein in this police brutality. It's NOT lawful, no matter what some "law" claims in regard to "latitude" for the police. It's another step in the march to the Fourth Reich. When they came for the Blacks, you said nothing. When they come for YOU, you will remember me. Have a nice day.

NOW for some interesting information to brighten the day of decent people:

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They are only found in the Western Hemisphere — from southeastern Alaska down to southern Chile — with most living in the tropics. There are more than 325 species of hummingbirds!

Here are some interesting facts on these beautiful creatures:

The bright radiant color on hummingbirds comes from iridescent coloring like on a soap bubble or prism, and are used to attract mates.

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Hummingbirds are very smart and they can remember every flower they have been to and how long it will take a flower to refill.

Hummingbirds can hear better than humans, but have little to no sense of smell.

Hummingbirds can see farther than humans and can even see ultraviolet light!

Their heart beats up to 1,260 times per minute and their metabolism is roughly 100 times that of an elephant.   :o

A hummingbird’s heart is 2.5% of the total body weight.

Their body temperature is around 107 degrees Fahrenheit.

Only eight species regularly breed in the United States, though up to two dozen species may visit the country or be reported as regular visitors.

Their maximum forward flight speed is 30 miles per hour, though they can reach up to 60 miles per hour in a dive.

Despite their small size, hummingbirds are one of the most aggressive bird species and will regularly attack jays, crows and hawks that enter their territory.
 


Historically, they were hunted for their vibrant, colorful feathers. At present, habitat loss/destruction are the hummingbirds main threat to survival. Every specie of hummingbirds are currently listed as vulnerable or endangered on the IUCN red list.
Up Close and Personal with the Hummingbird *videos
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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2014, 11:23:07 pm »
Wed Oct 08, 2014 at 09:42 AM PDT.
Police pepper spray black teen because he couldn't possibly be part of white family
 
by  I give in to sin

Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina

Foster parents Ricky and Stacy Tyler left the side entrance door unlocked for 18 year old DeShawn Currie, on Monday afternoon - aware DeShawn was coming home early that day to an empty house. A neighbor spotted the teen entering the home and called 911 to report a break in. Three officers responded in pavlovian fashion, handling the teen as a suspect rather than putting aside racial bias and giving the black kid the benefit of the doubt. After ordering DeShawn to put his hands on the door,

said DeShawn. "I was like, 'For what? This is my house.' I was like, 'Why are y'all in here?'"
the cops pointed to photos of the Tyler's three white children and decided he didn't belong there.
DeShawn, justly upset, objected to being treated like a criminal in his own home. Of course, in Copworld, that translates to being threatening and belligerent so that's a pepper spraying to the face. Stacy Tyler arrived home to find E.M.S workers tending to DeShawn. Cops didn't pepper spray her.

"My 5-year-old last night, she looked at me and said, 'Mama I don't understand why they hated our brother, and they had to come in and hurt him.'"

In addition to DeShawn still being alive, the best part of this story is being reminded that yes, wonderful people still exist.

"He's my baby boy just as much as my other three children are," said Stacy.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/08/1335141/-police-pepper-spray-black-teen-because-he-couldn-t-possibly-be-part-of-white-family

But, uh, naturally, this is just an "isolated incident", of course. I mean, if this had been a BLACK neighborhood and a BLACK person called 911 that a WHITE prowler was seen....(You get the idea... ;D  ;)), I am CERTAIN the police would have pepper sprayed the WHITE kid after seeing pictures of BLACK kids on the wall...  


Racism? What racism? Quit tryin' to play the racist card! Gott mit uns! 



Whoops, wrong picture.  :-[ But the past is sometimes prologue. Have a nice day, GOOD GERMANS!
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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2014, 06:27:11 pm »
Protests Continue in St. Louis Over Police Shooting of Another Black Teen

By Press TV Global Research, October 10, 2014 Region: USA

Theme: Law and Justice, Police State & Civil Rights

Hundreds of angry protesters have clashed with police in the US city of St. Louis for a second consecutive night after a white police officer fatally shot another black teenager.

As many as 400 demonstrators chanted and marched through St. Louis in the state of Missouri on Thursday night following loud protests the night before over the shooting death of 18-year-old Vonderrit Myers Jr. by an off-duty white policeman on Wednesday.

The latest police shooting took place two months after Darren Wilson, a white police officer shot and killed 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, a predominantly black suburb of St. Louis, sparking weeks of violent protests.

Thursday’s demonstration over Myers’ death grew increasingly chaotic overnight with police arresting several protesters and one officer getting slightly injured.

Several American flags were also burned and stomped on by the protesters. “It’s not our flag,” said Elizabeth Vega, an artist who said she had been protesting since Brown’s death. “Our children are being killed in the street. This flag doesn’t cover black or brown people.”

Gina Gowdy, 46, stood for hours waving an upside-down American flag. “I have three grandsons,” she said. “This has to stop. They are assassinating our black young men. People are fed up.”


The St. Louis police department has refused to identify the 32-year-old off-duty officer who was working for a private security firm when he killed Myers.

St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson told reporters that the black teen got into “physical alteration”  ;D with the policeman before he was fatally wounded.      He said    the suspect allegedly turned and “pointed a gun at the officer and fired at least         ;D three rounds at the officer.” 

The victim’s family, however, contend that the police are lying. “The police are lying,” Joseph Cotton, Myers’s grandfather, said outside the family home on Thursday.

The victim’s mother told The Associated Press by phone Thursday that her son wasn’t carrying a gun, as police claim. Syreeta Myers said her son was holding a sandwich when he was killed. “Police lie. They lied about Michael Brown, too,” she said.

Several civil rights organizations and protest groups have planned marches during the weekend over the killing of Michael Brown with Myers’ death on Wednesday expected to add fuel to the fire.

Police brutality and the unnecessary use of heavy-handed tactics have become a major concern across the US in recent years. US police shoot and kill an average of 1,000 people a year  >:(  , 1 in 4 of whom are unarmed, according to a report by the Police Policy Studies Council.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/protests-continue-in-st-louis-over-police-shooting-of-another-black-teen/5407356

Agelbert NOTE: SURE, the GRAND JURY is going to sort out this ISOLATED INCIDENT.   Have a nice LEGAL AND LAWFUL  day.
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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2014, 07:26:56 pm »
One can see a distinct change for the worse after 1859, with a marked increase in callousness, ill-treatment and brutality towards Aboriginal people
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I've split this article into two. What follows is the first part. All jacked up fonts and smileys for accent and highlighting are my doing. 
By the way, the LAW profession was INSTRUMENTAL in making all that you will now read about, LEGISLATED into being LAWFUL AND LEGAL. They did not lift a FINGER to stop this despite the fact that most of them were professing "Christians". In fact, they were the HANDMAIDENS of the pseudo scientific Social Darwinism true believers in Government by making BUTCHERY legal.  Admittedly, SOME laws EVENTUALLY curtailed OPEN SEASON on Aborigines for Darwinian "Science" (and good "specimen" prices!). Some scientists are complaining, to this day,  about lawful laws that got rid of many UNLAWFUL LAWS.  ;D

But, of course, to the average Australian White back then, Christian or not, it was JUST PRACTICAL CFS to go with the effluent flow.  Korah Wills, a mayor and a fine upstanding citizen  (just GOOGLE him - no mention is made of his LEGAL Aborigine hunting for science and profit),  made a little money, for the good of science, of course by killing and dismembering an Aborigine. 

Contrary to what many modern folks may claim, some rather erudite and well reasoned arguments in favor of this "policy" were made by intelligent, scholarly, educated, logical, prudent, practical, etc. keen legal minds and luminaries of that era. I am not being sarcastic. They really WERE being practical. As many modern jurists will patiently explain to those people like myself (that don't know nuttin' about LAW ), being based on morality is not only NOT sine qua none for a LAW to be LAWFUL, it's irrelevant. They managed to cleverly undermine and discredit any accusations of iniquity as "sentimentality" (i.e. MORAL considerations must be IGNORED as being UNLAWFUL according to their Darwinian Definition of "natural" LAW).  Past can be prologue. Enjoy...


Missing the link between Darwin and racism Part 1 of 2
by Warren Nunn
Published: 12 October 2014 (GMT+10)

In an article titled Sorry, atheists, but you’re wrong: The death of Love your neighbour, CMI highlighted how much Australian society had changed for the worse and linked that to the increasing acceptance of evolutionary ideas.

Anthony B., from France, in a comment on the article, said evolution should not be blamed and suggested the ‘religious’ had a part to play in the poor treatment of Aboriginal Australians in the 19th century. He wrote:
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The rise in gratuitous violence is a disgrace, but as to whether the theory of evolution is to blame is somewhat controversial. In the 19C in your country the violence meted out to aborigenes [sic] was carried out when people were far more religious than today.
Violence is indeed ‘a disgrace’; but it’s a pity that the perpetrators of the gratuitous violence don’t seem to see it as such. And how is teaching them an evolutionary view of their origins going to change their minds?

But in any case, Anthony B. clearly did not think through his comment and/or chose to ignore the historical record which shows that it was evolutionary thinking that convinced society that indigenous Australians were ‘living missing links’. From that flowed countless heinous acts of murder, etc, many of which were done for the ‘benefit’ of allegedly ‘scientific’ knowledge.

In his book One Human Family, CMI’s Managing Director Dr Carl Wieland reveals the depth of the problem. The following extract shows clearly, with documentation, that it was the rush to adopt Charles Darwin’s ideas that fuelled a dramatic upsurge in shameful actions:


Aboriginals bearing the brunt

An unusual book was published in 1974, called Aborigines in White Australia: A Documentary History of the Attitudes Affecting Official Policy and the Australian Aborigine 1697–1973.1 Apart from a few introductory/editorial comments, it consists almost entirely of substantial excerpts from documents. These are parliamentary transcripts, court records,   letters to editors, anthropological reports, and so forth. Far from showing a progressive enlightenment in the attitudes of the colonists as time goes on, one can see a distinct change for the worse after 1859, with a marked increase in callousness, ill-treatment and brutality towards Aboriginal people being evident in official attitudes. This is not lost on the editor of the above book, who writes:

“In 1859 Charles Darwin’s book On the Origin of Species popularized the notion of biological (and therefore social) evolution. Scholars began to discuss civilization as a unilinear process with races able to ascend or descend a graduated scale. The European was … the ‘fittest to survive’ … [The Aboriginal] was doomed to die out according to a ‘natural law’, like the dodo and the dinosaur. This theory, supported by the facts at hand [i.e. that Aboriginal folk were dying out from ill-treatment and disease—CW] continued to be quoted until well into the twentieth century when it was noticed that the dark-skinned race was multiplying. Until that time it could be used to justify neglect and murder.”   


From the book’s transcript of an interrogation of a policeman during a Royal Commission of Inquiry in 1861 (p. 83), we read concerning the use of force against tribal Aboriginals:
“‘And if we did not punish the blacks they would look upon it as a confession of weakness?’
‘Yes, that is exactly my opinion.’
‘It is a question as to which is the strongest race—if we submit to them they would despise us for it?’
‘Yes …’” 


The lowly state in which some Australians viewed the indigenous population was evident before Darwin’s ideas began to take hold.

The influence of evolutionary thinking can also be seen in another excerpt from Aborigines in White Australia, on p. 100. The writer quoted, also author of an 1888 book, is justifying the killing of the native population in the State of Victoria. He writes:
“As to the ethics of the question, there can be drawn no final conclusion.”

He says that this is because it is
“a question of temperament; to the sentimental it is undoubtedly an iniquity; to the practical it represents a distinct step in human progress, involving the sacrifice of a few thousands of an inferior race. … But the fact is that mankind, as a race, cannot choose to act solely as moral beings.  They are governed by animal laws which urge them blindly forward upon tracks they scarce can choose for themselves.” 

In other words, he is justifying ‘iniquity’ (another word for sin) by appealing to the ‘animal laws’ of the evolutionary struggle for survival. Opposition can be dismissed as ‘sentimental’—lacking understanding of such ‘natural laws’ .
There were isolated voices of protest. On p. 93, we read of a letter writer to an Australian newspaper in 1880, who, incensed by the treatment of his fellow man, stated:

“This, in plain language, is how we deal with the aborigines: On occupying new territory the aboriginal inhabitants are treated exactly in the same way as the wild beasts or birds the settlers may find there. Their lives and their property, the nets, canoes, and weapons which represent as much labor to them as the stock and buildings of the white settler, are held by the Europeans as being at their absolute disposal. Their goods are taken, their children forcibly stolen, their women carried away, entirely at the caprice of white men. The least show of resistance is answered by a rifle bullet … [those] who fancied the amusement have murdered, ravished, and robbed the blacks without let or hindrance. Not only have they been unchecked, but the Government of the colony has been always at hand to save them from the consequences of their crime.”2


But such voices were readily drowned out by the fashionable science of the day. Three pages further on, we read of someone else, also writing in an 1880 newspaper, who said:

“Nothing that we can do will alter the inscrutable and withal immutable laws which direct our progress on this globe. By these laws the native races of Australia were doomed on the advent of the white man, and the only thing left for us to do is to assist in carrying them out [i.e. helping the ‘laws’ of evolution by hastening the Aborigines’ doom—CW] with as little cruelty as possible … We must rule the blacks by fear … .”3

This Australian newspaper article highlights how Aboriginals were butchered in the name of science. The article mentions 19th century politician Korah Wills who admitted to killing and dismembering the body of an Aboriginal.


Korah Wills: Politician, Gentleman, Good Family Man and a Man of Letters!

Australian secular historian Joanna Cruickshank acknowledges, if somewhat reluctantly, not only the baneful effects of the Darwin-inspired ‘scientific racism’ on Australian Aboriginals, but the way in which belief in our common descent from Adam and Eve operated to temper such thinking. In a recent article4 on the topic, she writes:

“Supporters of Darwin have understandably often been reluctant to acknowledge how closely entangled Darwinism and social Darwinism were, preferring to distance Darwin from his theory’s evil twin."  ;)

Yet those who debated the theory of evolution in the late nineteenth century were keenly aware of this connection … . Nowhere was this more obvious than in Australia.”

She writes how by 1876, the library of a typical squatter (pastoralist) consisted of books by Shakespeare, John Stuart Mill, and Darwin. The pattern, widespread today, of church leaders anxious to compromise with this new ‘scientific’ ideology, was already evident. She writes how in 1869, a Reverend Bromby gave a public lecture defending Darwin’s book, in which he
“followed Darwin’s logic in using the apparent dying out of Aboriginal people as evidence for evolution.
“In response, the Anglican Bishop of Melbourne, Charles Perry, attacked both Bromby’s evidence and his conclusions. Perry critiqued what he saw as the scientific inadequacies of Darwin’s book.
“In particular, however, Perry attacked the view that human beings could be divided by race—or any other category—into ‘savage’ and ‘civilised’ … .” 

Cruickshank explains that Bromby represented the ‘progressive’ wing of the Church of England. Betraying her pro-evolution bias, she calls him “open to scientific evidence” and “dismissive of biblical literalism.”  ;D

She continues:


“Perry, by contrast, was a staunch evangelical, uncomfortable with the theological implications of Darwin’s theory and horrified at what he saw as a threat to the biblical claim that all humanity was formed of ‘one blood.’”

Cruickshank goes on to say that when legislation  was passed “enshrining the ‘White Australia’ policy and effectively denying Aboriginal people the vote, few voices were raised in protest. Progressives and conservatives alike saw the preservation of the more evolved white race as central to national identity.  ;D

Following Darwin and his contemporaries, they [Aboriginals] were regarded by scientists and other evolutionary enthusiasts as ‘living missing links’  >:(

“Those few protests against the policy came from unlikely quarters. The fledgling New South Wales Aborigines Mission, a small evangelical organization, pointed out that while most politicians claimed ‘to be ultrademocratic, they are sadly conservative in democratic practice, and unChristian both in theory and in practice when they say that a native born Australian is not a man and a brother because his skin happens to be a few shades darker than their own.’

Finally, and very significantly for our purposes here, this secular historian states:
“In earlier periods, one of the few persistent barriers to social Darwinist theory in Australia was the Christian doctrine that all human beings were of ‘one blood.’”


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We ALL KNOW what SCIENCE and GOVERNMENT DOES about persistent barriers to "proper modern, progressive, Gott mit uns, scientific" thinking, now don't we?  

A gruesome trade; Darwin's Bodysnatchers for "Science"
Continued in part 2:

Missing the link between Darwin and racism Part 2 of 2
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Missing the link between Darwin and racism Part 2 of 2

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Pickled Aboriginal brains were also in demand, to try to demonstrate that they were inferior to those of whites.  >:(

A gruesome trade; Darwin's Bodysnatchers for "Science"

The body parts of Australian Aboriginal folk were keenly sought after. Following Darwin and his contemporaries, they were regarded by scientists and other evolutionary enthusiasts as ‘living missing links’. The remains of some 10,000 dead Aboriginal people in all were shipped to British museums over the course of this frenzy to provide specimens for this ‘new science’.5

David Monaghan, an Australian journalist, extensively documented these—and far worse—effects of evolutionary belief. He spent 18 months researching his subject in London, culminating in an article in Australia’s Bulletin magazine6 and a TV documentary called Darwin’s Body-Snatchers. This aired in Britain on October 8, 1990.

Along with museum curators from around the world, Monaghan says, some of the top names in British science were involved in this large-scale grave-robbing trade. These included anatomist Sir Richard Owen, anthropologist Sir Arthur Keith, and Charles Darwin himself. Darwin wrote asking for Tasmanian skulls when only four full-blooded native Tasmanians were left alive. (Ever the Victorian gentleman, his request came with a caveat; provided, that is, that it would not upset their feelings.)
American evolutionists, too, were strongly involved in this flourishing ‘industry’ of gathering specimens of ‘sub-humans’, according to Monaghan. The Smithsonian Institution in Washington holds the remains of 15,000 individuals of various groups of people.

Museums were not only interested in bones, but in fresh skins as well.
These would provide interesting evolutionary displays when stuffed. Pickled Aboriginal brains were also in demand, to try to demonstrate that they were inferior to those of whites.

Good prices were being offered for such specimens. Monaghan shows, on the basis of written evidence from the time, that there is little doubt that many of the ‘fresh’ specimens were obtained by simply going out and killing the Aboriginal people. The way in which the requests for specimens were announced was often a poorly disguised invitation to do just that. A death-bed memoir from Korah Wills, who became mayor of Bowen, Queensland, in 1866, graphically described how he killed and dismembered a local tribesman in 1865 to provide a scientific specimen.
Monaghan’s research indicated that Edward Ramsay, curator of the Australian Museum in Sydney for 20 years from 1874, was particularly heavily involved. He published a museum booklet which appeared to include his, my and your Aboriginal relatives under the designation of ‘Australian animals’. It also gave instructions not only on how to rob graves, but also on how to plug up bullet wounds in freshly killed ‘specimens’.

Many freelance collectors worked under Ramsay’s guidance. Four weeks after he had requested skulls of Bungee (Russell River) blacks, a keen young science student sent him two, announcing that they, the last of their tribe, had just been shot. In the 1880s, Monaghan writes, Ramsay complained that laws recently passed in Queensland to stop the slaughter of Aboriginals were affecting his supply.

The Angel of Black Death


The 19th century German naturalist Amalie Dietrich was part of the gruesome trade for Australian Aboriginals—one of Darwin’s bodysnatchers.

According to Monaghan’s Bulletin article, that was the nickname given to a German evolutionist, Amalie Dietrich. She came to Australia asking station7 owners for their Aboriginal workers to be shot for specimens. 'She was particularly interested in skin for stuffing and mounting for her museum employers. Although evicted from at least one property, she shortly returned home with her specimens.

Monaghan also recounts how a New South Wales missionary was a horrified witness to the slaughter by mounted police of a group of dozens of Aboriginal men, women and children. Forty-five heads were then boiled down and the ten best skulls were packed off for overseas.

Still in recent times

As much as one would like to think that such attitudes are long gone, remnants still linger, including in the scientific community itself. This is shown by a telling extract from a secular writer in 2004 (emphasis added):

It has been estimated that the remains of some 50,000 Aborigines are housed in medical and scientific institutions abroad.    >:( The Tasmanian Aboriginal remains in particular are there for two reasons. First, at the time of collection they were considered to be the most primitive link in the evolutionary chain, and therefore worthy of scientific consideration. Second, each skull fetched between five and ten shillings. … in anthropological terms, while the remains maintain currency as a museum item, the notion that they are a scientific curiosity remains. Put simply, if it is now accepted that Tasmanian Aborigines are not the weakest evolutionary link, that they are simply another group of people with attendant rights to dignity and respect, there is no longer any reason to keep their remains for study. Institutions should acknowledge that by returning the remains. There are two reasons why this is not as straightforward as it appears. First, the British Museum Act of 1962 did not allow British government institutions to deaccess stored material. Second, a number of scientists haven’t accepted that Tasmanian Aborigines are not on the bottom of Social Darwinist scales, and until they do, feet are being dragged.”8

Darwinist views about the racial inferiority of Aboriginal Australians drastically influenced their treatment in other ways too. These views were backed up by alleged biological evidences, which were only much later seen for what they were—distortions based on bias. In 1908 an inspector from the Department of Aborigines in the West Kimberley region wrote that he was glad to have received an order to transport all half-castes away from their tribe to the mission. He said it was “the duty of the State” to give these children (who, by their evolutionary reasoning, were going to be intellectually superior to full-blooded Aboriginal ones) a “chance to lead a better life than their mothers”. He wrote: “I would not hesitate for one moment to separate a half-caste from an Aboriginal mother, no matter how frantic her momentary grief”.9 Notice the use of the word ‘momentary’ to qualify ‘grief’; such lesser-evolved beings, sub-human as they were, were to him clearly not capable of feeling real grief.

Many genuine Australian Christians and church institutions, though patronizing on occasion, seem to have tried to protect Aboriginal people from the full brunt of the many inhumanities sanctioned by evolutionary thinking. However, like today, most church leaders and institutions compromised in some form or another with this new Darwinian ‘science’. Virtually no Christian voice in Australia did what was required—to affirm boldly the real history of mankind as given in the Bible. For the church to have stressed regarding Aboriginal people that we all go back only a few thousand years, to Noah’s family, would have helped strongly refute both pre-Darwinian racism and the maxi-spurt it received from Darwin, It would also have anticipated the findings of modern genetics, that biologically we are all extremely closely related.


Aborigine Bob Weatherall protested in London against the Museum of Natural History's decision to test indigenous bones.
Australia calls for German museums to give back human bones


Whoopie! Great Grandma is doing her part for SCIENCE! 


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References and notes

Edited by Sharman Stone, Heinemann Educational Books, Melbourne, 1974.

The full text (which makes interesting reading) can be found at trove.nla.gov.au. .

Full text at trove.nla.gov.au.

Cruickshank, J., Darwin, race and religion in Australia, ABC Religion and Ethics, abc.net.au, 11 Apr 2011, accessed 13 April 2011. .

Darwin’s bodysnatchers, Sydney Morning Herald, March 3, 1990, cited in Creation 12(3):21, 1990.

The original apparently stated that only 3,000 sets of remains were left after the bombing raids of World War II.

Monaghan, D., The body-snatchers, The Bulletin, 12 November 1991, pp. 30–38. Return to text.
‘Station’ (e.g. cattle station, sheep station) is the Australian designation for what would be termed ‘ranch’ in the US. Many Aboriginal people worked on stations, often as stockmen (the equivalent of ‘cowboys’ or ‘cowhands’).

Onsman, A., Truganini’s funeral, Island, No. 96, 2004. Truganini was the last surviving female full-blood Tasmanian. .

Ref. 6. p.38. .

http://creation.com/missing-the-link-between-darwin-and-racism

Agelbert NOTE: If you are an Aborigine, FORGET damages awards of portions of the estates from, or RETROACTIVE MURDER CHARGES AND posthumous trials for, all these serial murderers.  ???

Lawyers will calmly state that the murder wasn't murder when it was committed because it was, uhm, LEGAL and LAWFUL then.  ;D Water under bridge, old boy. But our law firm will be happy to sue a British, German or American Museum (Hello, Smithsonian! ;D) to get the bones of your great grand pappy for a reasonable fee. No, we can't get them to stop displaying the bones for science until we win the lawsuit. No, sorry, we can't get all the pictures taken of your deceased relatives in the museum files collected and given to you. Science must, after all, be considered. Just consider that your relatives "donated" their bodies to science like people do today when they sign that part of their driver's license. Remember, our legal system is JUST! Trust us. We are lawyers. We know the LAW and we are the ONLY defense you have and bulwark you can rely on to protect you from injustice, abusive government and anarchy!

Would you like to engage our firm to get justice for you and your family from this heinous act done to your relatives? I would be incensed if this outrage had been perpetrated on my ancestors! Justice must be done! 

Excuse me? 
No, we are unable to take the case on contingency or pro bono. Sorry.  Now, if you will excuse me, I have an appointment with a paying client. Best of luck to you, and God Bless you.



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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2014, 06:42:38 pm »
Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 04:01 PM EDT.

The complete guide to every public eyewitness interview in the shooting death of Mike Brown

by
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Mike Brown was shot and killed by Officer Darren Wilson in broad daylight on a hot Saturday afternoon in Ferguson, Missouri. Consequently, eyewitnesses were standing at virtually every angle to observe exactly what happened that day. Seven have come forward publicly. Many gave interviews in the immediate aftermath of the shooting on Canfield Drive. Below is an annotated list of every public interview and video given by each eyewitness.
Dorian Johnson



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQeni0qt8Vo&feature=player_embedded
Dorian Johnson is an essential eyewitness. He was walking with Mike Brown when they were first confronted by Officer Wilson and has given the only public account of what was said and done throughout the early stages of that confrontation.

Agelbert NOTE: Go link at bottom for links to all interviews.

• Here is the video interview with Johnson still on the scene soon after Brown was killed in which he describes everything he saw.

• Here is the same video from Johnson, but from a different camera angle.

• A very detailed 12-minute interview with Johnson by Al Sharpton in which he recounts every detail he could remember.

• Here Johnson does a video interview with the local press in which he recounts the story, the same as he said when he was on the scene. But he adds that it felt as if Brown was gunned down "like an animal."

• Here is an interview Johnson did with Chris Hayes just days after Brown was killed.

• Here Johnson does an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

• Here Johnson does an interview with CNN's Don Lemon after Brown's funeral.

• Here Johnson gives an interview more two months later, on Oct. 30, again with CNN's Lemon, and stands by every aspect of his previous account.

Additional ALL links to interviews can be found below the fold at the link below.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/31/1340611/-The-complete-guide-to-every-public-eyewitness-interview-in-the-shooting-death-of-Mike-Brown

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It's time to listen to Martin Luther King, Jr., Gandhi, Kajieme Powell, Chris Hedges and Will Allen. If we don't, mankind is doomed.


 

The Concept of Race.

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The Mike Brown Shooting: What You're Not Being Told
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2014, 07:10:41 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_icVWKO4_o&feature=player_embedded
The Mike Brown Shooting What You're Not Being Told
Mike Brown was MURDERED in cold blood, PERIOD.  






So why does DARREN the RACIST MURDERER look unconcerned?

 

DARREN "understands" Our Court System and the Constitution QUITE WELL...
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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2014, 08:09:00 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wYLHfcmK1Q&feature=player_embedded
Two White Construction worker eye witnesses agree Mike Brown DID NOT attack the COP DARREN WILSON.

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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2014, 08:33:43 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPQzFF0tYKE&feature=player_embedded
Dick Gregory once ran for President of the United States. He is a wise man. He says, "white" is not a color, it's an ATTITUDE. He is right.



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Dick Gregory is a Comedian as well as being a Historian and Top Tier Civil Rights Activist.



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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2014, 07:35:08 pm »
Tue Nov 04, 2014 at 12:59 PM EST.

Proof the police have told two huge lies in the shooting death of Darrien Hunt
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On September 10, 22-year-old Darrien Hunt was shot six times in the back and killed by two police officers in Saratoga Springs, Utah. New evidence proves that police have told at least two huge lies (and maybe another) in their attempt to justify the shooting. What follows is an account of those lies.
Lie #1: As the first officer exited his vehicle, Darrien Hunt lunged at him with his sword.

Detectives and medical examiners are consistently among the first officials on the scene of a police-involved shooting death. Their initial reports are particularly valuable because they regularly have the earliest documented statements from the officers involved in the shooting. As late as six days after the shooting death of Darrien Hunt, the police admitted that they had not even interviewed the officers involved yet, giving them ample time to prepare their stories. Similarly, the earliest known statement we have about the shooting death of Missouri teenager Mike Brown on August 9 in Ferguson came from a detective and was included in the autopsy report. It is inconsistent with later stories purported to be from Officer Darren Wilson.


In the newly released autopsy report in the shooting death of Darrien Hunt, it states the earliest known account of the police perspective as follows:

The first officer exited his vehicle and the subject charged him swinging the sword.  Three shots were fired (at Hunt) upon the initial contact.

Darrien Hunt, smiling while talking to officers outside of their car. (at link)
This photo alone (at link), taken by bystander Jocelyn Hansen, contradicts that story and proves that both officers had exited their vehicle and were talking to Hunt.



Lie #2. Police claimed Hunt took acid and was on drugs  but his toxicology report came back negative for all drugs and alcohol. 
In apparent attempt to smear Hunt, police made a strange and absurd claim in their report, which states the following:

"(Hunt) apparently liked hallucinogens and had taken acid approximately three weeks (prior to the shooting)." 

However, when the state toxicology report came back, it proved that Hunt was not under the influence of any drugs whatsoever—making the police statement about Hunt being on drugs seem like an absurd attempt to justify the shooting.

Potential Lie #3. Witness Leonard Zogg says police have deliberately misrepresented what he said he saw on September 10.

In the earliest police report from the day Hunt was killed, Leonard Zogg is quoted as saying he saw Hunt lunge at the officers and swing his sword at them  . Zogg emphatically denies ever seeing any such thing and states that he never stated anything of the sort. Zogg also states that he told detectives that the police began shooting at Hunt after he started running away, but that the report states Zogg told them Hunt ran away after he was fired upon. While it is nearly impossible to confirm what Zogg did or did not tell the police originally, his public avowal that he has been misrepresented, when considered alongside these two other lies, is highly concerning.

These cases of police inconsistencies are troubling at best and must be investigated. ::)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/04/1341612/-Proof-the-police-have-told-two-huge-lies-in-the-shooting-death-of-Darrien-Hunt

Agelbert Comment: The last statement is the UNDERSTATEMENT of the YEAR.  >:(


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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2014, 04:11:14 pm »

But don't worry! According to "Christian" Lawyer Ashvin, the above is hyperbole, madness and irrationality.   ;D The jogger will, AFTER ALL, get his "DAY IN COURT", WON'T HE? 

The only thing worse than a prejudiced, racist moron is a prejudiced, racist LAWYER moron.

The Court System is irreparable and must be totally scrapped.

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Re: Mechanisms of Prejudice: Hidden and Not Hidden
« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2014, 02:47:02 pm »
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KELLER: Well, we have a criminal justice system that incarcerates more people than any other nation on earth. One possible exception is North Korea where we don’t really know. We have 5% of the world’s population and 25% of the world’s prison inmates. The system fails badly at, at the fundamental obligation to protect public safety, because we put people in prison and then, when they’re finally finished their terms we let them out with no skills, no preparation for the real world.  :(



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You know, the, the … one of the issues I would like to look at is pre-trial detention. I mean large numbers of people who are accused of crime can’t afford the high price of the …and rising cost of bail. So they end up languishing in jail before they’ve had a trial. They lose their jobs, their families often fall apart. This is before they’ve been convicted of anything.

We’d like to look at the, the prevalence of plea bargains. And most people I think would be surprised to know that upwards of 95% of the people who are in prison never had a trial.  They were … they all cut deals with the prosecution because there is a huge pressure in the system not to slow things down. You can take your chances on, you know, a ten year sentence or you can take a year, plead guilty and, and avoid that, that risk.   ;)     :P


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HEFFNER: How do you get at whether or not prosecutions and inadequate counsel and all these negative aspects of the criminal justice system are racially motivated? How are you going to try to get at that question? Because that’s on people’s minds today.

KELLER: Well, you know, one book that has, has been … become a kind of bible for the more liberal reformists is Michelle Alexander’s book called The New Jim Crow, which … where, in which she writes eloquently and passionately about the racialization of the American justice system. And it’s, it’s an undeniable truth … just from looking at the, at the data.


Interview at link:

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