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AGelbert

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Re: Defending Wildlife
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2016, 03:00:55 pm »
And what if this fed land grab operation is in part to procure control over silver and rare earth metals needed for the solar revolution AG?

It's a PRIVATIZATION land grab, not a fed land grab. The toadies are actually getting the Federal Government to PAY the States to take it, only to turn around and SELL IT to resource exploitation corporations.   

Roamer, that is an interesting possibility. I expect you, as an allegedly objective, responsible, open minded individual to now research silver mining (silver is found with gold at a ratio of about 16 to one so they get gold from them too) and rare earths mining in the world in general, and the USA in particular.

I expect you to provide a list of the carcinogenic and otherwise toxic chemicals involved (there are LOTS of them besides arsenic) in the process of mining for and refining precious and rare earth metals. Furthermore, I expect you to provide the proportional distribution of the product in the various industries in the correct percentages and proportions, particularly how much of the total mining output goes (eventually) to Renewable Energy Technologies.

I expect you to compare their use for Renewable Technologies with their use for the polluting industries. But don't stop there. Copper, for example, is a rather important part of manufacturing electric motors. So you could make a case against copper being mined for Renewable Energy powered electric motors too.

Of course you would have to subtract all the copper used for electric motors on oil rigs and fossil fuel powered modes of transportation like cars, planes ships, submarines, etc. And don't forget to look into how the fossil fuel industry uses rare earths and silver in their machinery and infrastructure too. They do, you know.  8)

Otherwise, you might be mistaken for someone who is trying to distract people from the routine profit over planet exploitation of the fossil fuel industry, which they certainly DO have a track record of DOING on public lands.

So, if you think I am opposed to the privatization of public lands ONLY because the big money fossil fuelers want to exploit them for profit while they exterminate any wildlife that gets in the way, I beg to differ. I do not give a tinker's damn whether there is a mother lode of rare earths on public land or a giant copper or silver find in that, or any other wildlife refuge. I want it LEFT ALONE and managed by responsible biologists, not greedy, empathy deficit disordered opportunists. In fact, I suspect you feel exactly the same way. Howevah, ConocoPhillips, the reputed first oil corporation off the blocks to take advantage of the elimination of the export ban (they also just closed all operations in Russia - a coincidence, of course    ) may see newly privatized lands to be Fracked as a "business opportunity".  :P

By the way, the fastest growing job in the USA is Wind Turbine Technician. It pays pretty good and you are well qualified for it.

Where's Roamer? ???

 I can give you a link to a recent news item on it if you like. You can still get in on the "ground floor", so to speak.   

AG, Well I was spouting idle chatter on that one, I think Eddie is closer to the mark though there are talks of massive solar farms looking for a home on west coast public land.
I agree with you too on the research that needs to be done to present an objective picture of cost benefit of solar PV.  Maybe I'll find time to dig into a bit.  But im not in need of convincing that the future is solar. 
All for it and with the Sauds and presumably parasitic war mongering deep state throwing their weight behind their geological mother lode I'm far less inclined to think anything good can come of waiting to bite the bullet and transition.
So I think you and I can agree on one point, its now solar or bust for the world. 

  I would only add the caveat that solar is just one of the several Renewable Energy Technologies needed to replace the fossil fuel hegemony.   8)


Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate:
For the Lord will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them. Pr. 22:22-23

 

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