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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2014, 05:49:46 pm »
Environmental Control Drones: A True Tale from South Carolina

Posted on August 30, 2014  by  Wendy McCarty

A white truck with a decal on the side pulls into the driveway. The decal itself is unreadable from afar. A man wearing tan pants and a white shirt with a circular decal on the shoulder comes to the front door. As the man approaches, the decal on his shirt is easily readable “Environmental Department.”

The door is answered.

“Hello?” Says the homeowner.

“What’s going on in your backyard?” the agent asks.

“Just a little bit of permaculture” the homeowner responds.

“Put on some shoes and lets go back there and take a look”

“Bamboo???” The agent asks once they are both in the backyard.

“Yeah…it is planted all around the yard.”

“You know… it (the bamboo) is really devaluing your property. I could show you pictures of some overgrown bamboo that has taken over properties. It is bad to have. It gets out of control. Go back in the house. I’m going to take a few pictures and then I’m going to leave. It is not illegal to have a garden, but you have to keep your weeds trimmed to below 16 inches. They have to be cut. This property is considered overgrown.”  

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http://thebutterchurn.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/environmental-control-drones-a-true-tale-from-south-carolina/#comment-1121
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The Bamboo "monster"
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2014, 06:03:35 pm »

The Bamboo "Monster"

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Did you know that from 1898 to 1975 the US Department of Agriculture introduced hundreds of my varieties to the states. The plan was to plant me widely as a commercially viable plant. Around 1960, the New Crops Branch of the USDA studied Phyllostachys bambusoides and loblolly pine to compare yields for pulp production. Then on July 1, 1965 the Department of Agriculture just stopped researching me. I was very confused by that because I’m much more virile than pine. Latter I found out that the government turned their back on me because loblolly pine business interests wanted them to.  >:(The same thing happened to hemp.  >:(

Contrary to what idiots may think, I am native to North America. I’m not an invasive weed, or a pest. For some reason Americans seem to think that I can defy the laws of nature. They think I will “take over” if you plant me. Well, yeah, I will take over if you don’t keep me in check. Let me tell you a little secret. I’ll throw this little nugget out there as a peace offering; I have an Achilles Heel. If you want to control me, all you have to do is dig a trench around me and fill it with sand. Then, twice a year, you take a spade and plunge it into the sand. When you find one of my rhizomes you cut it. It’s called root pruning (or rhizome pruning in my case), and it really is that easy. If you do that I won’t escape containment. Well, I may still find my way out by plunging down beneath your trench, but eventually, if I do that, I’ll send up a shoot and then you’ll know where I escaped. Then you just eat the shoot, or don’t, and pull the rhizome up and put me back into containment.

My growth habits are not a state secret, and I’m easy to contain if you just understand how I grow. Sure, once I get established as a healthy grove I’m just about impossible to get rid of, but then what’s wrong with being strong and powerful? I am stronger than steel and I’m capable of weathering hurricanes. Indigenous cultures know that when mother nature strikes via natural disasters I’m the safest place to seek refuge. I’ve been told that I have somewhere around 1400 uses for mankind. Why, kind reader, do Americans hate the most useful plant to them on the planet?!!!          

Full article with graphics at link below:

http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/forum/index.php/topic,3320.msg55274.html#msg55274
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2014, 09:33:30 pm »
LD,
I've been thinking about the "problem" of Bamboo as mistakenly being branded UN -"American".

Hollywood is the culprit! Bamboo is associated with Banana Republics and/or Asian tropical jungles.  :( Merikans have seen too many movies of the "japs" o the "gooks" hiding in the bamboo OR preparing bamboo SPIKE booby traps for unwary Merikans. Bamboo just ain't Anglo-Saxon as far as our propaganda pushers are concerned!

Sure, it's INSANE that Merikans just LOVE BANANAS and don't seem to make the same connection (United Fruit Fascists and Chiquita Bananas had great PR for over a century!) THERE but that just proves how "successfully" we-the-people have been brainwashed and DUMBED DOWN.

By the way, there is a guy in Vermont that is growing a type of bamboo that IS invasive here.   ;D  Good for him! This whole "invasive" thing is kind of stupid anyway. This is ONE PLANET! If it grows, it's because it LIKES IT THERE! Invasive, MY ARSE! 

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The World of Bamboo

     by Gib Cooper


Bamboo's natural range includes every continent except Europe and Antarctica.

We once had 5 million acres of an American native bamboo known as Canebrake or Arundinaria gigantea growing in our Southeastern quarter. This bamboo and its ecosystem were soon greatly diminished in area by the migration of settlers in the early 19th century.   :emthdown: The bamboo grew in good soil and was cleared for farmland. Unbelievably, a new species was described for the USA in 2006. Its name is Hill cane, or Arundinaria appalachiana.

Stone Age Asians may have relied heavily on tools they made of materials other than stone. The lack of stone tools of the quality found in Europe in much of Southeast Asia roughly corresponds to the natural distribution of bamboo in the region. It appears that Southeast Asia has been heavily forested for many millions of years. This is still one of the areas of dense bamboo forests remaining in the world. Man may have relied more on bamboo than we know. Based on this theory, bamboo was probably one of the most important materials used by early Asian people. Even today, the use of bamboo has more significance to Asian cultures than any other.

Evidence of bamboo use is found in South America. Some excavations of early dwellings have imprints of bamboo canes and split, woven material preserved in the mud or adobe used in the construction or as protective living stockades around villages.

Bamboo is an incredible grass that has long been in use by people around the globe. In our modern world it is finding a new place in the spectrum of plants, fibers and foods used to enhance the quality of our lives.  :emthup: We are not simply talking about one plant. Bamboo is a large group of giant grasses with over 1,200 species found from the tropics to temperate regions.


http://www.greenlivingjournal.com/page.php?p=1000192




 
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2014, 02:42:40 pm »
Rand Paul    Says Hillary Clinton’s Focus on Climate Change    Shows She Lacks ‘Wisdom’ to Be President

http://ecowatch.com/2014/09/08/rand-paul-hillary-clinton-climate-change/

  Students of Goebbels Propaganda Techniques PLEASE NOTE: Rand Paul is being used as a TOOL to make Hillary Clinton (another FASCIST TOOL) look like she will address climate change. The ORWELLIAN GOALS of TPTB are:

1) Make you believe that these two TOOLS of Oligarchy are elucidating the main "controversy" so that you will LABEL one of them as RIGHT and one of them as WRONG. Consequently you will be swayed by the "reasonable logic" BALONEY of "vote for the lesser evil".    This is manufacturing consent on STEROIDS!

2) Make you believe that politicians give a rat's ass what you think. They DON'T. They are NOT concerned with "winning" the election, GET IT?  That is NOT what this is about. The election is GAMED by the media as a HORSE RACE so a third party candidate with a REAL POPULIST PLATFORM will be shut out REGARDLESS of their ACTUAL vote count! Once you BELIEVE those two TOOLS are "fighting on your behalf", most of you will be SUCKERED into voting one way or the other AGAINST your best interests, evidence and experience. Goebbels Game Theory ****S know their stuff!

3) For those who DO see through this charade, the 24/7 media coverage of the professional wrestling match between Dems and Repubs ( keep believing the Tea Party and the Libertarians are not Repub theater for the more reactionary and "purist" repubs if you want - it's part of this sucker play - LOL!) will convince them that their real populist candidate in the Tax Wall Street Party and/or the Green Party has no chance of winning. This is False. Even a high protest vote scares the **** out of TPTB. They NEED the manipulated consent of the governed. Never forget that! It doesn't matter how many guns they have. If they lose the manipulated consent of the governed, the cops and enforcers in their ranks start to throw wrenches in the oligarchic fascist machinery and the government cannot control the masses. VOTE YOUR CONSCIENSE, not the media manufactured "reality"!

4) Avoid an "embarrassing" overwhelming vote in favor of REAL POPULISTS that has to be BLATANTLY manipulated. WHY? Because that is what starts national uprisings against fascist governments.    Our Orwellian masters do not want that (it's expensive...  ).

Agebert COMMENT on the above article's web site: Rand Paul AND Hillary Clinton "disagreements" are an EXCELLENT example of a professional wrestling match FOOD FIGHT.

This is THEATER. This is a DISTRACTION from the painful reality of our corrupt. climate denying Fossil Fuel OWNED GOVERNMENT!

The Only REAL choices we have are in the Green Party and the Tax Wall Street Party.

I vote for the Tax Wall Street Party! The Green Party would probably caucus with them! Dems and Repubs are oligarchic TOOLS, PERIOD!

The honest REAL populists to vote for in California, Nebraska and New York if you are tired of Wall Street FASCISM in the USA are:

James Hinton in California

Dan Buhrdorf in Nebraska and Randy Credico in New York

Pass it on. The country you help emerge from fascism may be IS our own!
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2014, 07:44:07 pm »
Hitler's Courts: Betrayal of the Rule of Law in Nazi Germany

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Sol Wachtler, former Chief Judge of the State of New York, and my guest today, first roused my own interest in this subject – and my profound concern for its implications for Americans today – in 2002 when the Touro Law Center in cooperation with the Free University of Berlin Law School convened in Berlin, Germany the Simon Bond International Wannsee Seminar on “Tyranny, Justice & The Law: The Nazis and Beyond”.

As the Seminar’s Chair, Judge Wachtler wrote then that it was there in the “Wannsee Villa 60 years before that the political, legal, and judicial functionaries of the Third Reich met to devise an efficient method to resolve ‘the Jewish question’ [what became "The Final Solution" -- extermination of the Jews].

“Participants of that conference where the logistics of mass murder were agreed upon – were lawyers…[Judge Wachtler wrote, and] … Wannsee…serves as a powerful reminder of how fragile ‘the Rule of Law’ can be when threatened by the political power of the state”.

The mission of the Wannsee Seminar, my guest noted, was to impart to members of the legal establishment worldwide “…the relevant warning that when the law and the courts are motivated and dominated by state and political interests above the interests of justice, civilization is doomed”.



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WACHTLER: I … actually … when we first thought about the idea of the Conference … and this goes way back to 1968 that I’ve been thinking about this … when I lectured over in Germany on the Constitution of the United States before the prosecutors and judges of Germany … it occurred to me that these prosecutors and judges … back in ’68 … were the same men who were Hitler’s judges and … they were still doing business … and it occurred to me “Where were they? Where were they when Hitler’s ascension brought about chaos internationally? Why didn’t they provide the bulwark that lawyers and judges should provide in order to stem the tide of un-civilization?”

Instead they became handmaidens to tyranny.  They actually assisted Adolf Hitler in his demonic dictatorship.


Agelbert NOTE: Did you GET THAT? Did you NOTICE they DID NOT get disbarred, go to prison or get a death sentence? Did you notice the ones in 1968 were THERE and helped Hitler's rise to power by PLAYING THE GAME of hairsplitting, "if it's legal, it's lawful" BULLSHIT that's getting so much ACCEPTANCE in the USA today?   >:(

You didn't? What part of this quote do you NOT UNDERSTAND?
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it occurred to me that these prosecutors and judges … back in ’68 were the same men who were Hitler’s judges and … they were still doing business

Snippet 3: The STRONG Rule of LAW in Germany and the PRINCIPLED stand of the Courts and LAWYERS.  ;D

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At first the judges protested, they said, “This is wrong.”   

But the head of the judicial conference went to meet with Adolf Hitler and came back and said to his fellow jurists, “This is only temporary, I’ve been assured by the Fuhrer that this will go away soon. But these laws become necessary because we’re living in a time of terror.”   

Snippet 4: The STRONG Rule of LAW in Germany was LEGALLY made UNLAWFUL.  ;D
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BAZYLER: When the Nazis first came to power they ended up promulgating a number of laws that incrementally deprived Jews and other persecuted minorities, of civil rights. These incremental steps that we’re talking about … that results in the Final Solution … were all legal steps.  ;D I mean you can trace this, you can trace the Holocaust as a legal event.   
 


Read more at link below:
http://www.thirteen.org/openmind/history/hitlers-courts-betrayal-of-the-rule-of-law-in-nazi-germany-one-hour-special/1814/

No pattern here... Nothing to see... Move along... wave that flag and, well, you get the idea.  ;) Everything is going to be just fine. Sleep well, our courts will always be there to give you your DAY in court (and a job and three meals a day in a "gated" community  ;D). Gott mit uns!
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2014, 09:24:38 pm »


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h_fEU8NKgo&feature=player_embedded

Here's the deal, boys and girls. The erudite German Lawyers KNEW the LAW. BUT, they feared Hitler more than they feared God. They preferred to let others DIE so they might LIVE. Many of these judges and lawyers were church going, professing Christians.

WTF happened? They were afraid of being disbarred, going to prison, being shot or all the above. It's happening here RIGHT NOW in the USA. The people that KNOW our "laws" are UNLAWFUL in regard to the "latitude" given the police, are aiding and abetting the march of fascism in this country.

As in Germany in the NAZI era, they are mostly taking care of number one, not preserving justice. Not that they will ever admit it. They like to hear themselves talk, talk, talk but are loathe to put their asses on the line to prevent we-the-people from being shafted. 


And for the materialist who only gives principled behavior and morality lip service (i.e. they don't DO dying for someone else or for principles, period.), who can blame them? 

NAZI Germany, the most horrific example of human butchery and moral cowardice amongst the professionals in particular and the people in general in the history of this planet was ALLOWED, by the Allied powers after WWII, to leave all those cowardly forks free to practice LAW and man the Court System.

So they have EVERYTHING to lose if they buck the encroaching fascism here and NOTHING to gain by going to bat for we-the-people. They plant to survive. They will turn themselves into logical pretzels in order to SAVE THEIR HIDE by arguing vociferously (and disingenuously  ;))  that our LAWS are LAWFUL and LEGAL. For them to say they don't "agree" to the laws while continuing to assert those LAWS are LAWFUL just means they won't lift a finger to save your ass from tyranny. Remember that. 

In brief, the court system will not save this country from a government and police that defines LAW and LAWFUL as whatever the  fork they want to do, period.

The solution can ONLY be an Ex Curia "solution".    Lawyers now are no better than those fine legal minds in Germany (this is not sarcasm - they were considered the BEST in civilization at that time!)  in the 1930s that managed to 'play the game' which resulted in AIDING and ABETTING the butchery of millions of decent people and lived to collect their pensions after remaining in the Court System after WWII and all the way to 1968 and beyond. Clever fellows, weren't they?   

May God have mercy on us all. We are truly forked.
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2014, 09:48:13 pm »

Hitler's Courts Video series Parts 2 and 3 (Past can be prologue, readers!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VmrsKJeFc&feature=player_detailpage&list=PL9FED823760AAC656
Fascism is sneaking in to the USA. Many of the EXACT SAME METHODS are being used. Be alert. Get your Town council to fire AND imprison any police officer that is brutal or racist. That's how it began in Germany (with the LAWS backing the police up!).

Hitler's Courts Part 3: Germany after WWII and the USA after 911. Our democracy is in peril from fascism.

Despite that high sounding and righteous phrase from Nuremberg above, most of the people in the law system were NOT even tried. In the video, you will see what NO LAWYER wants to talk about TODAY in regard to the ILLEGALITY of LAWS that VIOLATE basic human MORALITY. Forget the concentration camp guard just following legal ad lawful orders. That's when things were REALLY far gone. Go back to the German cops in the streets doing a number on the Jews in particular and anybody they wanted to beat up in general. Hello? USA today, anyone? You aren't black so no problem. Dream on, pal!

No amount of hair splitting legalese can justify a LAW that asserts that an assault by a police officer is LAWFUL while self defense against that illegal assault is not. THAT's the LAW in Pennsylvania. IT actually SAYS that, even if the assault by the police officer is ILLEGAL, you have NO RIGHT to defend yourself. BULLSHIT!
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Under Pennsylvania law, you may not use force to resist a legal or illegal   :o  >:(  arrest. Remember you have the right to contest the validity of your arrest later on in court.  ::)
http://www.twpusc.org/police/what-to-do

Fascism isn't coming; It's HERE, people. It just hasn't rung your bell yet. But it will. If you live in Pennsylvania or any other state with an UNLAWFUL LAW like that above, work to get it changed or watch our country go down the fascist drain.

THAT is what happened in Germany before it got really bad over there. By the early 1940s The SS was allowed to REINTERPRET or DISGARD a LAW or a Court sentence if they considered it TOO LENIENT. What an amazing pile of steaming bullshit.

And it was all done with all the proper legal stamps, motions and sentencing paperwork! The video makes it CRYSTAL CLEAR that it CAN happen here.

IT ALSO, and unfortunately for we-the-people, puts the main responsibility for stopping fascist tyranny that will change our Court System to a murderous travesty of justice on, GET THIS, our Judges and lawyers.  ::)

I don't think so. But then, the narrators are representatives of the LAW NOW, so it is PAR FOR THE COURSE for them to do a little Noblesse Oblige Dance.  ;)

It was a great video series but, aside from the BRIEF mention of a few travesties of justice perpetrated in the past by the USA and a warning about the danger of too many anti-terrorism laws after 911, they don't say BEANS about how bad it is already.

I know better. They don't want to ADMIT that they are as fearful of losing their JOBS as those German Jurists and lawyers were in the 1930s. If you don't see that, you have a leak in your attic. Don't count on our court system for anything but lip service to democracy at best and, at worst, acting as the willing double talking, rhetoric laced motor mouth handmaiden of fascism, prejudice, brutality and corporate enslavement for profit over planet.

George Orwell was not whistling Dixie. Pass it on. The democracy you save may be your own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsvcdRyywaA&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2014, 10:56:31 pm »

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Table of Contents

Chapter                                                                 
1. Tort Terrorism
2. Deadly Culture in Government Aviation Safety Offices
3. Continuing Cover-Ups: National Tradition] Agelbert NOTE:See 1930s Germany

4. Imposters Seeking to Halt Exposure Activities
5. Reporting Federal Crimes to Federal Judges
6. Fighting Aviation Safety Corruption as Private Citizen
7. Scheme by CIA-Front Law Firm to Block Reports
8. Extension of Scheme to Federal Courts
9. Report Criminal Activities: Go to Prison] Agelbert NOTE:See 1930s Germany
10. Seeking Civil Rights Relief in Chapter 11 Courts
11. Suing Federal Judges and Accomplices
12. Complicity of Supreme Court Justices Agelbert NOTE: See 1930s Germany
13. Complicity of Media People
14. Lawsuits to Record Crimes of Congress, Judges and Media
15. Corrupt Culture of DOJ Lawyers ] Agelbert NOTE: See 1930s Germany
16. Classic Example of Legal-Judicial Sabotage
17. Blowback Consequences on 9/11 and Continuing Cover-Ups
18. Continuing Attacks from Legal Fraternity After 9/11 Agelbert NOTE: See 1930s Germany
19. Bright Future for Continuing Corruption! ] Agelbert NOTE: See 1930s Germany
      Index

Details the culture and corruption among lawyers, law firms, and judges, and some of the tragic consequences from such conduct by people in the United States. Some of the issues include:

•Blackmail threats against small businesses by lawyers.

•Class action lawsuits in which the plaintiffs get virtually nothing and the lawyers get millions in fee.

•Widespread corruption in probate case.

•Widespread defrauding of widows and orphans.

•Widespread corruption in bankruptcy courts.

•Lawyers demanding sex from their clients.

•Judges accepting bribes from lawyers appearing before them.

•Involvement of a CIA front law firm in San Francisco acting to halt the author's attempts to publicize the corruption in government offices that he and a group of other former government agents had discovered.

•The repeated acts by federal judges, acting in unison with the CIA-front law firm, to strip the author of $10 million in assets that funded his exposure activities.

•The nationwide corruption in bankruptcy courts that corruptly seizes the assets of people who exercise the statutory protection of Chapter 11.The corruption throughout the legal fraternity, including federal and state judges.

• The harm they inflict upon the people of the United States and upon major national interests.

• How lawyers in the government's aviation safety offices covered up for corrupt activities of government officials that had already been implicated in several prior airline disasters, which then continued as before.

• The attacks upon a former federal safety agent to silence him, by over 50 lawyers over a period of 20 years, and the ripple effects on 9/11 and in other airline disasters.

• Role of federal judges in repeatedly blocking former government agents from reporting corruption in government offices, some of it deadly.

• The involvement of Supreme Court justices in the cover-ups of criminal activities.

• Lawsuit against federal judges and CIA-front law firm on the basis of schemes to obstruct justice.

• Various legal scams against the public
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For those who do not see the looming fascist threat to our democracy and the FACT that the Court System will be handmaidens of this corporate fascism just believe I'm just bitter from isolated incidents with the legal system in my own narrow pro se experience. Believe I don't know nuttin' about law, peace, war, good, bad, history or whatever in regard to creeping fascism. Believe I'm just a paranoid scaredy cat makin' a mountain out of a molehill. I hope you are right...  8) It's just my overactive imagination and so on.... 

 
Gott mit uns!     
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2014, 09:05:13 pm »
This is an EXCELLENT example of a Corrupt Court System.  >:(

As you will see, whenever a "brilliant jurist" finally gets his head out of his "logical" ass  and sees that the LAW he supported and argued for was USED to disenfranchise voters in diametric  (as in Orwellian) opposition to the stated intent of said law, YEARS of fascist inertia and democracy destroying elections have taken place. Then the jurist gives a dissenting opinion on a related case.

BUT, it DOES NO GOOD for we-the-people beyond lip service. The Court System has made Voter Disenfranchisement LEGAL. This is one of the MANY steps taken by state governments in the USA towards fascism.

WHERE was the American Bar Association when this Voter ID CRAP was first pushed? ???  Well, uh, there was NO EVIDENCE of intent to disenfranchise voters.  ;D  The LAW, as written, APPEARED to be for the purpose of AVOIDING voter fraud. Hey, we are lawyers, not mind readers!  It was, uhm, a good law but it was used, ah, improperly... RIGHT. Don't tell me the legal minds in this country could not see RIGHT THROUGH this transparent and fascist backed effort to thwart the Democratic representation of a segment of the voting public!   

The following post is from the Daily Kos. they are celebrating a dissenting opinion. I say the elite controlling the Courts AND the state government voter ID LAWFUL UNLAWFUL AND FRAUDULENT laws deliberately designed to disenfranchise voters will do NOTHING to change this travesty of democracy before the elections. AFTER the elections they will yammer about this and that and perhaps get some reform with much fanfare!  ;D However, before the next election, a legal team from A.L.E.C. will meticulously pull every single democratic tooth out of it (quietly, of course! ;)).

IOW, the SYSTEM has fascist inertia. The Court System is PART of that inertia and is ONLY used to display the appearance of objectivity and even handedness.   

A dissenting opinion, even from a Reagan appointee, will do NOTHING but put a "the Court System works"  bright and shiny, BUT FALSE, paint job on our fascist enabling system of juris-imprudence.  ;D Enjoy! 



Mon Oct 13, 2014 at 04:42 PM PDT.

Highly Respected Conservative Judge Rips "Voter ID" Laws--and the GOP--in Blistering Opinion


SNIPPET 1 (the "brilliant jurist" cred   ;D):

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Possibly the most well-known jurist in the country, the Reagan-appointed, conservative Posner is not only an accomplished Circuit Court Judge, he is a Senior Lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School and the author of nearly 40 books.  He is 75 years old and were it not for a penchant for raising hackles of the legal community with his acute opinions, he would likely be on the Supreme Court right now.

 The Los Angeles Times' Michael Hiltzik accurately describes the regard the legal and judicial community holds towards Posner:


Posner, 75, is no wooly-headed liberal, but a card-carrying conservative who was appointed to the circuit bench by Ronald Reagan in 1981. He's widely regarded as the smartest jurist in the federal judiciary, and was identified in 2000 by Fred Shapiro of Yale Law School as the most-cited legal scholar of all time.

SNIPPET 2:

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Posner authored the Opinion in the decision of Crawford v Marion County, the 7th Circuit decision in 2008 that upheld Indiana's "Voter ID" law, and which was, in turn, affirmed by the Supreme Court. The case involved the Constitutionality of the first such law in the country, the seminal Voter Suppression statute that spawned so many imitations in other states.  :P  :(

Agelbert NOTE: Because of that voter suppression, the WRONG people got elected, wars have been fought, money stolen by the MIC, MORE people have been killed outside this country and in it, fossil fuel subsidies prolonged and Renewable energy subsidies kept tiny or non-existent. Many Americans have died from lack of proper health care.

In MY BOOK, those are BOTH CIVIL and CRIMINAL LAW violations. Don't hold your breath waiting for a lawyer to agree. The "variables" in the voting for this, that and the other are all separate issues that LAWYERS REFUSE to connect the CRIME/FRAUD dots on. Why? Because they are PART of the fascist corruption for profit over planet, period. Of course, they'll deny that too!  ;D

This is the story of this country since the (Orwellian) Patriot Act ENABLING LAW began a chain of fascism fostering laws. The Law profession has MADE A LOT OF MONEY from those laws and is NOT interested in reversing them because the MONEY people BACKED those laws BEFORE they became laws and will be highly pissed at any lawyer with the temerity to "**** upstream", so to speak.

SNIPPET 3 (an IMPOTENT JUDICIARY when they don't want to change a LAW):

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Posner, joined by four Judges on the Seventh Circuit, authored the opinion requesting a rehearing en banc by the entire Seventh Circuit Court of appeals in Frank v Scott Walker et al, the recent case assessing the validity of the Wisconsin "Voter ID" statute.  A three-judge panel of the 7th Circuit had already cleared the way for the Wisconsin law to go into effect prior to next month's elections.  :evil4: Posner's request for rehearing split the Judges of that Circuit 5-5, and thus no rehearing was granted. Posner's opinion, which eviscerates every rationale promoted in support of these suppression laws, was relegated to a "dissent."  But unlike most other "dissents," this opinion is likely to reverberate throughout the Judiciary and will be closely scrutinized by the Supreme Court, which stepped in and suspended the law's validity just last week.  ::)

Agelbert NOTE: It's a fantastic opinion BUT it is a "DISSENT"  :evil4:, LOL! IOW, it don't mean **** as to changing the law, no matter what the hopeful and optimistic fellow at the Daily KOS is wishing for. I'm NOT being pessimistic; I'm being REALISTIC.  8)

If they DO annul this Voter SUPRESSION LAW, it will be a step towards Democracy. I'm telling you right here and now that NOTHING will be done except a lot of foot dragging UNTIL AFTER the election. I wish it weren't so.  :(

Now read parts of Posner's great dissent (with article author's commentary) in the tradition of Oliver Wendell Holmes (the Great Dissenter). It's quite good, logical, realistic and honest. Too bad it's not the law.  ;D

Posner distills the essence of these noxious statutes as motivated solely by the intent by the Republican Party to suppress Americans' right to vote. As Hiltzik summarizes the opinion:

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"There is only one motivation for imposing burdens on voting that are ostensibly designed to discourage voter-impersonation fraud," [Posner] writes, "and that is to discourage voting by persons likely to vote against the party responsible for imposing the burdens." More specifically, he observes, photo ID laws are "highly correlated with a state's having a Republican governor and Republican control of the legislature and appear to be aimed at limiting voting by minorities, particularly blacks."

Posner distinguishes the Indiana law from the Wisconsin one (a necessary exercise, albeit an effective one) in terms of their relative stringency.  But his opinion suggests a more substantial re-thinking of the entire issue, and he takes pains to carefully demolish the flimsy arguments and excuses of "voter fraud" proffered by the laws' proponents:


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"There is compelling evidence that voter-impersonation fraud is essentially nonexistent in Wisconsin." Assertions about voter fraud are "a mere fig leaf for efforts to disenfranchise voters." He adds that "some of the 'evidence' of voter-impersonation fraud is downright goofy, if not paranoid, such as the nonexistent buses that according to the 'True the Vote' movement [a voter suppression organization originating in the tea party movement] transport foreigners and reservation Indians to polling places."

Indeed, Posner writes, lists of the states that impose the strictest requirements "imply that a number of conservative states try to make it difficult for people who are outside the mainstream, whether because of poverty or race or problems with the English language...to vote."


The "list of states" is actually a Table (Table 2, page 17) contained within the opinion itself. Posner shows that all of the states that have implemented these voter suppression statutes did so under Republican governance, either at the Executive or Legislative level:

STATES WITH STRICT PHOTO ID LAWS—POLITICAL MAKEUP
 WHEN THE LAWS WERE ADOPTED
Arkansas: Democratic governor, but both the  House and Senate were under Republican control.

Georgia: Republican governor, Republican control of both the House and Senate.

Indiana: Republican governor, Republican control of both the House and Senate.

Kansas: Republican governor, Republican control of both the House and Senate.

Mississippi: Adopted by the voters through a ballot initiative. Republicans, who already controlled the governorship and the state Senate, won a majority of seats in the House in that same election.

Tennessee: Republican  governor,  Republican  control of both the House and Senate.


Texas: Republican  governor,  Republican  control  of both the House and Senate.

Virginia: Republican governor, Republican control of both the House and Senate.

Wisconsin:  Republican  governor,  Republican  control of both the House and Senate.

The Opinion notes that the same pattern holds true for the three "strict, non-photo ID" states, Arizona, North Dakota and Ohio.

Posner also sarcastically eviscerates the argument that "Voter ID's" are easy to obtain, are inexpensive, or are somehow akin to "showing an ID" when one boards an airplane. In a final flourish of judicial contempt, Posner characterizes the arguments of the Wisconsin law's proponents as inhabiting a "fact-free cocoon". 


A strong antipathy runs through Posner's opinion here, one that should be taken seriously. Posner appears to appreciate   ;Dthe deeply un-American purpose of these laws and he spares no effort to take their essential fiendishness to task, even as he lays their invention at the feet of his own Republican Party.   ;D This is damning stuff,  ::)  the likes of which has never been fully articulated in Judicial opinion. The fact that Posner is the one articulating it will have a profound effect on the "debate" about these laws from this point forward.   


Judge Posner's dissenting opinion in the Frank v Scott Walker case is here   


[url=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/13/1336362/-Highly-Respected-Conservative-Judge-Rips-Voter-ID-Laws-and-the-GOP-in-Blistering-Opinion]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/13/1336362/-Highly-Respected-Conservative-Judge-Rips-Voter-ID-Laws-and-the-GOP-in-Blistering-Opinion


The voter ID LAWS were crafted with malice and aforethought for the purpose of fostering a murdering, profit over planet fascist police state in a series of small INCREMENTAL STEPS. 
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2014, 12:19:43 am »


SNIPPET:

As Christopher Simpson reminds us in the opening chapter, “The most prominent feature of the Nazi political philosophy [was] extreme anticommunism and particularly fanatic hatred of the USSR.” That hatred set the world ablaze, and, yet, after the war, the Nazi administrators, chief intelligence officers, generals, police chiefs, and intellectuals of that regime of hatred and war were recruited to continue their work in the bosom of our secret National Security State, advising, influencing, and promoting our foreign policy in the Cold War .   

Did that policy change with the fall of the Berlin Wall?

No, it intensified—still absolutist, still aggressive, still dedicated to political warfare. 


America’s Recruitment of Nazis -– Then and Now

By LUCIANA BOHNE / CounterPunch

http://www.constantinereport.com/americas-recruitment-nazis-now/
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2014, 10:56:53 pm »
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an·tith·e·sis anˈtiTHəsəs/ noun noun: antithesis; plural noun: antitheses a person or thing that is the direct opposite of someone or something else. "love is the antithesis of selfishness"
 
synonyms:   (complete) opposite, converse, contrary, reverse, inverse, obverse, other side of the coin; informal flip side "friends of the actress say she is quite the antithesis of her giddy and frivolous character"   

“Legal” is the antithesis of equitable,  ;D and the equivalent of constructive. 2 Abbott’s Law Dic. 24

eq·ui·ta·ble ˈekwədəb(ə)l/ adjective adjective: equitable
1. fair and impartial. "an equitable balance of power"
 
synonyms:   fair, just, impartial, even-handed, unbiased, unprejudiced, egalitarian; More disinterested, objective, neutral, nonpartisan, open-minded; informal fair and square "a plan to distribute the burden of taxes in an equitable way"   
 
antonyms:   unfair  ;D   

2. Law    valid in equity as distinct from law. "the beneficiaries have an equitable interest in the property" 

Agelbert note: Isn't it just AMAZING  ;) how the LAWYERS managed to ADJUST  ;) the definition "1" of equitable so as to split a few hairs in order to LEGALLY (definition "2") take someone's LAWFUL  EQUITY away? Yes, of course I sense a bit of table pounding on the way which will be heralded with several colorful adjectives disdaining as surreal, ridiculous, hypocritical (and so on) the data I am providing you here with links. Well, as they say in da show biz, any publicity is good publicity.  ;D

You know, the Scribes and Pharisees lawyers are really 'good' at what the DO, aren't they?  ;D It makes you wonder about the REASON the word "Code" was morphed by the etymology challenged  (or fiendishly Orwellian!) Legal establishment to mean laws , don't it?  Mens Rea? Nahh.

But that would be a silly "conspiracy theory", now wouldn't it? After all, lawyers don't have a secret handshake, do they?  ;D  Well then, they are just trying to make things CLEAR for us, not trying to set up their own private language so they are the only ones that can A) make money from da law business and B) screw someone with all the proper color of law.   ;) There is NO history of chicanery among lawyers. Oh no! ;D


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Lawful matters are ethically enjoined in the law of the land—the law of the people—and are actual in nature, not implied. This is why whatever true law was upheld by the organic Constitution has no bearing or authority in the present day legal courts. It is impossible for anyone in “authority” today to access, or even take cognizance of, true law since “authority” is the “law of necessity,” 12 USC 95.  ;D

Therefore, it would appear that the meaning of the word “legal” is “color of law,” a term which Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, defines as:

Color of law. The appearance or semblance, without the substance, of legal right. Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because wrongdoer is clothed with authority of state, is action taken under “color of law.”  ;D  Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, page 241.

http://famguardian.org/subjects/LawAndGovt/LegalEthics/LegalVLawful.htm


Tell me, dear readers, does the above statue of Lady Justice speak of Legality or of EQUITABILITY (the antithesis of legality)? See Color of Law.  >:(

Now, if truth in advertising was applied to the above OBVIOUS historical attempt by TPTB to convince the masses of the intrinsic Equitablilty (as well as being the 'ultimate' and ONLY authority for coercive power and so on) of the Court System when engaged in the settling of disputes, then we would see something like the following in order to CORRECTLY describe our Court System so as to prepare those seeking a LAWFUL remedy in said system for the "real world":


Gott mit uns!   

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PART 1 of the Ex Curia Solution   


Golden Rule Government - A Legal Lawful System Based on Caring instead of Conquest
by Jailhouse Judge Agelbert

Background:

Golden Rule Government, not to be confused with fiscal policy in government (today mostly given lip service) where borrowing is only authorised except for investment, is a total ex curia replacement ot our hopelessly elitist, fascist, dysfunctional, profit over planet, biosphere destroying and human misery producing (and so on) social governing structure.

This new approach is not a reform of the old; it requires the scrapping of the old because the status quo is based on conquest. This new system mat be labeled "feminine" because it is based on caring.

However, overall, it is utilitarian in its application , not "sentimental", as anything labeled "femine" by our society disingenuously, pejoratively and patronizingly might claim.
In philosophy the male-centered versus the feminine approach are considered areas of moral

psychology:
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... area of moral psychology focuses on whether there is a distinctly female approach to ethics that is grounded in the psychological differences between men and women.
Discussions of this issue focus on two claims:
(1) traditional morality is male-centered, and
(2) there is a unique female perspective of the world which can be shaped into a value theory.
According to many feminist philosophers, traditional morality is male-centered since it is modeled after practices that have been traditionally male-dominated, such as acquiring property, engaging in business contracts, and governing societies. The rigid systems of rules required for trade and government were then taken as models for the creation of equally rigid systems of moral rules, such as lists of rights and duties.

Women, by contrast, have traditionally had a nurturing role by raising children and overseeing domestic life. These tasks require less rule following, and more spontaneous and creative action. Using the woman's experience as a model for moral theory, then, the basis of morality would be spontaneously caring for others as would be appropriate in each unique circumstance. On this model, the agent becomes part of the situation and acts caringly within that context. This stands in contrast with male-modeled morality where the agent is a mechanical actor who performs his required duty, but can remain distanced from and unaffected by the situation. A care-based approach to morality, as it is sometimes called, is offered by feminist ethicists as either a replacement for or a supplement to traditional male-modeled moral systems.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/ethics/

Of course, all ethical conduct is based on some basic concept of what is right and what is wrong (i.e. morality). While there ARE people, a lot of them, out there that argue that ethics has no place in social structure UNLESS it is "situational" (see Orwell) in nature, what they are really advocating, adopting, espousing and defending is  a Machiavellian view of government of the people, by the elite and for the elite.

The issue, nevertheless, is further "muddled" by the claim that "morality" is a human invention that doesn't "do the Darwinian math" of "reality".  They claim that what is "moral/ethical" for one tribe may be "immoral" for another so the best (i.e. "real world")  course of action is to shake hands and come out fighting (i.e. Conquest is the ultimate "morality").

Actus reus
Action or conduct that is a constituent element of a crime, as opposed to the mental state of the accused.

An excellent example of the LACK of "do the math" logic in our closed system biosphere by the Court System of Homo SAPs is poaching. Ask a lawyer to define poaching. While said professional may give lip service to the deleterious effects on the biosphere in general and the poached species of wildlife in particular due to this "illicit" activity, the APPROACH to this life destroying actus reus is ridiculously limited to the typical legalese tunnel vision of  'seeing the stolen healthy trees' PROPERTY, hair splitting illogic, that ignores the forest fire'. That is, the health and perpetuation of the 'impacted species' is measured only with regard to computing damages to the Homo SAP tribe or nation who 'owns' the animals being poached.

Furthermore, if the poacher is doing the bidding of a foreign government to undermine the GDP of the 'enemy' or some other 'justified' activity (according to social Darwinian situational 'ethics' Homo SAP juris-imprudent Court Systems) he is, acting 'lawfully'. It just depends (see SOPHISTRY and the practice of law) which group of Homo SAPS you base your 'fealty' too.

So what's the problem with loyalty to your tribe? Does not the life and welfare of 'your tribe' outweigh all other 'sentimental' notions of questionable ethical behavior? Well, at this point a lawyer will have a field day answering with a fascinating but thoroughly contorted and convoluted amount of 'logic' that basically says, YES (with several escape clause conditional "no" gray areas - be sure to consult a lawyer for each gray area.). The Homo SAP Court System has a sliding scale of ethics where "legal" is "lawful"(i.e. ethical/moral) sometimes but NOT ALWAYS. That's just the way it is among apex predators in a social Darwinian "real world' pecking order. Any other 'sentimental' and 'idealistic' and/or 'ridiculously utopian' notions of ethical conduct are just magical/wishful thinking for reality challenged ignoramuses. The current Court System used by Homo SAP governments  is the ONLY 'workable' system, Sniff! 

IF our concern (see trees versus forest) was exclusively occupying the king of the hill position among competing Homo SAPS, I would agree. But that fails to do the overall biosphere Darwinian (see natural selection and species extinction) MATH. Hence it is not just ridiculous to design and operate a Government/Court System predicated on Conquest, it is not ethical in any sense when the FOREST that Homo SAPS REQUIRE for the health, welfare and perpetuation of their species is COMPUTED into the MATH.

Idealist? Utopian? Try NOT OPTIONAL. In our biosphere, the ethical BOTTOM LINE is NOT some man made philosophical concept that defines "ethical" or "unethical" behavior in terms of what we do to each other and ignores other life forms. The ethical BOTTOM LINE is whether what we DO produces our DEATH or our LIFE, PERIOD.

Therefore, we must (see NOT OPTIONAL) strive, in order to save our own arses, for a Governmental/Court System that does NOT operate on a sliding scale of sophistic fun and games based on loyalty to one Homo SAP tribe/government/corporation/Bar association (you knew I would throw that in, didn't you? - I know - it's dirty pool - but like it!) over another.   

Well then, let's talk a bit about ethics that DON'T operate on a sliding scale of "morality". Let's try to get a bird's eye view of the BIG picture in regard to ethics.
Philosophy says this about that:

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...The term "meta" means after or beyond, and, consequently, the notion of metaethics involves a removed, or bird's eye view of the entire project of ethics. We may define metaethics as the study of the origin and meaning of ethical concepts. When compared to normative ethics and applied ethics, the field of metaethics is the least precisely defined area of moral philosophy. It covers issues from moral semantics to moral epistemology. ]

That doesn't seem to get us anywhere. But this is a good start.

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Two issues, though, are prominent:
(1) metaphysical issues concerning whether morality exists independently of humans, and
(2)psychological issues concerning the underlying mental basis of our moral judgments and conduct.

Since the  metaphysical issue is a gigantic can of worms in regard to ethics and morality, I have not referenced that contentious area in formulating the utilitarian "math" of Golden Rule Government.

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... area of meta-ethics involves the psychological basis of our moral judgments and conduct, particularly understanding what motivates us to be moral.
We might explore this subject by asking the simple question, "Why be moral?" Even if I am aware of basic moral standards, such as don't kill and don't steal, this does not necessarily mean that I will be psychologically compelled to act on them.

Some answers to the question "Why be moral?" are to avoid punishment, to gain praise, to attain happiness, to be dignified, or to fit in with society.
Many will claim THEIR "mental basis of moral judgements and conduct is the only VALID mental basis for moral judgements and conduct.

Without evidence to back this claim, they are just smoking that crack pipe of "do as I say, not as I do". The "best of all possible worlds" argument is also fallacious simply because all the alternatives out there are willfully disdained, discarded or simply ignored. See Procrustean bed.
The mental basis of our moral judgements and conduct can only be justified if the following takes place as a result of the said moral judgements and conduct:
1. A steadily improving and diverse fauna and flora in the biosphere.
2. A steady Bioremediation of all toxins in the biosphere.
3. A steady and consistent policy of emulating nature in bringing about a zero waste economy for the benefit of all earthlings.
4. Equal protection among humans from other humans.
5. Equal representation among humans (vote, petition, proposed legislation and law enforcement).
6. Equal access to services.
7. Equal punishment for wrong conduct.
8. Guaranteed Minimum standard of health, education and income to insure the dignity of even the most poverty stricken, disabled, handicapped or just plain dysfunctional from mental disease or laziness. "A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones." Gandhi
9. No statute of limitations on any crime for any reason and no limited liability for any human in any form of business, corporate charter, club, police, military governmental, bath club, etc. You do the crime, you do the time and you pay your share of the fine.   
10. Legal tender laws are carbon footprint/energy based (yeah, it's complicated but is VERY specific about SUBTRACTING the value of any product the EXACT amount of planetary piggery used to manufacture it, PERIOD.

Utopic? Nope. In fact, anything else, as in what we are doing NOW, is criminally negligent suicide. The status quo is not a measured, prudent, logical, or even social Darwinian approach to survival of the species. And forget about thriving when you are arrogantly eliminating diversity of life in a closed system such as our biosphere without even understanding scientifically WTF all these many and varied life forms out there do to contribute to our welfare.

Get this, people. What we are doing IS NOT WORKING. What part of that do you not understand?  ???

As reasonable, logical, intelligent (and so on) humans, it's time to give this strange idea born of the apparent benefits YOU have gotten from the dysfunctional human structure that you are not shooting yourself in the foot. Incremental measures and working within the "system" are doomed to failure because the "system" is based on unscientific principles of conquest.

We live in a closed system. A bubble of life, if you will. The only morality of life is, hello?, A LIFE GIVING social structure. Al the rest is baloney. We aren't talking about singing cumbaya and dancing with permaculture flowers in our head, people! we are talking about DOING THE MATH for a closed SYSTEM called the biosphere! YES, there are scads of life forms here that we can trample willy nilly and they don't fight back because they aren't self aware. SO WHAT!!? Are you going to sit there and tell me that we are going to promote LIFE by continuing to increase the rate of DEATH of non-self aware species as well as the MISERY of ours? GET OUTTA HERE with that Orwellian mindfork!

So you don't believe in God or right or wrong. And? Do you believe in breathing? Yep. Same with eating (and so on). See defecating where you eat. We are there. What part of that can't you wrap your head around? The MORALITY/ETHICS of a LIFE GIVING modus operandi and modus vivendi are not optional if you want to ensure the survival of your species. That is the math.

What's all that got to do with Golden Government Rule?

EVERYTHING!

Let us now move to WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, so to speak.

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Normative Ethics

Normative ethics involves arriving at moral standards that regulate right and wrong conduct. In a sense, it is a search for an ideal litmus test of proper behavior. The Golden Rule is a classic example of a normative principle: We should do to others what we would want others to do to us. Since I do not want my neighbor to steal my car, then it is wrong for me to steal her car. Since I would want people to feed me if I was starving, then I should help feed starving people. Using this same reasoning, I can theoretically determine whether any possible action is right or wrong. So, based on the Golden Rule, it would also be wrong for me to lie to, harass, victimize, assault, or kill others. The Golden Rule is an example of a normative theory that establishes a single principle against which we judge all actions. Other normative theories focus on a set of foundational principles, or a set of good character traits.

The key assumption in normative ethics is that there is only one ultimate criterion of moral conduct, whether it is a single rule or a set of principles.

The Golden Rule Government social structure uses computers (a LOT!) to DO THE MATH. This "math" is a biosphere life giving math MORALITY that is sine qua none for the perpetuation of the human species. You may say it is the formula for transitioning from Homo SAP to Homo sapiens as a society. There are many among us that are there already. But the Homo SAPS defending the biosphere ignoring LAW of CONQUEST "morality" are in the way.

I will discuss how to, through friendly persuasion, logic, prudent, measured, consistent, confident (and so on) PEACEFUL activity (or the lack of it - lack of activity, RE, not lack of peace - watch it!  ;D), we can save our arses along with thousands of other earthling species.

But not now. I want to see how the worthies here respond. If I see genuine interest born of a realization of seriousness of our plight and respect for the value of a REAL "do the math" Golden Rule Government proposal, rather than accusations of ignorance, puffery, hypocrisy or flatulence accompanied with disdain, sarcasm or branding of my post as flower child whining utopian blather, then I will get the message, loud and clear that, no matter what the risk of our current suicidal trajectory, you are not interested in a working solution and prefer the delusion that incremental reforms (see lipstick on a four footed truffle forager) will save Thelma and Louise from the laws of physics.

It is true, that once implemented, the Golden Rule Government will be the new "curia", among other things, but since the status quo will fight to the death to prevent said system change, the Golden Rule Government is an EX CURIA solution to our dysfunctional and brutal system. And, of course, if you want to implement Golden Rule Government, you are going to have believe in it to the point of willing to lose everything you have, including your life, simply for adopting the peaceful activities (and lack of them) required to get the Homo SAPs to wake up and smell the Grand Canyon of species extinction.

Sure, it might not work. But what we are doing now has a 100% probability of not working. Stupid is as stupid does. Have a nice day.



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Now for some serious Law stuff here!  Ahem! My vast and thorough perusal of jurisprudence (and juris-imprudence too;D) has uncovered these gems from a former Supreme Court Justice with a love of Sherlock Holmes novels and an encyclopedic knowledge of the law, why there is law, what it is supposed to do, what it isn't supposed to do and, more importantly, what it REALLY IS ALL ABOUT.   8)

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“Every society rests on the death of men,” he liked to say. If a nation needs soldiers, it seizes young men and marches them off to war at the point of a bayonet. If an epidemic breaks out, it forces the public to get vaccinated.

He said THIS, which sounds quite good as a defense of the Court system.  ;)

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The language of judicial decision is mainly the language of logic. And the logical method and form flatter that longing for certainty and for repose which is in every human mind. But certainty generally is illusion, and repose is not the destiny of man.

As a  lawyer, I can CLEARLY see he used that word "language" twice. Notice he DID NOT say that ALL judicial decisions are BASED on LOGIC, although one COULD interpret that quote in said legalese fashion.

But other famous quotes from him show that he knew the score and wanted us to know it as well.  8)

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Law is not being based on logic, but on experience.

Most of the things we do, we do for no better reason than that our fathers have done them or our neighbors do them, and the same is true of a larger part than what we suspect of what we think.

A man is usually more careful of his money than of his principles.

Young man, the secret of my success is that an early age I discovered that I was not God.

Certitude is not the test of certainty. We have been c ocksure of many things that were not so.

Any two philosophers can tell each other all they know in two hours.

Don't be 'consistent,' but be simply true.

Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at the touch, nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening.

Every event that a man would master must be mounted on the run, and no man ever caught the reins of a thought except as it galloped past him.

Man's mind, stretched by a new idea, never goes back to its original dimensions.

Beware how you take away hope from any human being.

The only prize much cared for by the powerful is power.

He knew government is a compromise where the citizenry gets certain benefits but the lion's share of those "benefits" will always be controlled by an elite establishment. I think he just didn't want the elite establishment to become a dictatorship. But, considering the goons that populated the high court then, he was a breath of fresh air; a very BRIEF breath of fresh air in our descent into empire and fascism.  :(

Please excuse this blatant and coarse attempt by yours truly to use the old  appeal to authority fallacious debating trick to sound erudite, polished, knowledgeable of law (and so on,  etc.  ;D). I protest any accusation of low class buffoonery! I never met Oliver Wendell Holmes and never argued a case before him! So there! If he happens to be on the same page as I am on issues of LAW and juris-imprudence, good for him! ( and me  ;D - Any port in the storm and all that. ) ;D

The defense rests.  ;D
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