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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #705 on: August 16, 2018, 08:54:59 pm »
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By Lorraine Chow

Aug. 13, 2018 12:54PM EST

DNC Will Take Fossil Fuel Money 🐉🦕🦖 After All



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That was fast. Just two months after the Democratic National Committee (DNC) unanimously prohibited donations from fossil fuel companies, the DNC voted 30-2 🙉 🙊 on Friday on a resolution that critics say effectively reverses the ban, The Huffington Post reported.

The resolution, introduced by DNC Chair Tom Perez 🦖, allows the committee to accept donations from "workers, including those in energy and related industries, who organize and donate to Democratic candidates individually or through their unions' or employers' political action committees" or PACs.

It conflicts with the original resolution that called on the committee to "reject corporate PAC contributions from the fossil fuel industry that conflict with our DNC Platform."

In a conference call after the vote, Perez said that members of the labor community considered the original resolution passed in June "an attack on the working people in these industries," per The Hill.   


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« Reply #706 on: August 20, 2018, 12:31:28 pm »

Donald Trump’s rats are eating him alive

Bill Palmer | 10:01 pm EDT August 19, 2018

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This morning Donald Trump revealed quite a bit about his worldview when he referred to Richard Nixon’s White House Counsel John Dean as a “RAT” for testifying against Nixon. History remembers Dean as a courageous hero who did the right thing; Trump is condemning Dean for having been personally disloyal to his criminal boss. But it’s funny that Trump is talking about people ratting each other out, because his own proverbial rats are now eating each other – and him – alive.

Just in the past few weeks we’ve seen so many of Trump’s people stab each other in the back, it’s been difficult to keep track. Omarosa has begun releasing humiliating secret recordings of Donald Trump and his advisers and his family in order to promote her new book. Michael Cohen released an incriminating recording just to spite Trump. Rick Gates testified against Paul Manafort. Oh, and everyone is testifying before the grand jury against Roger Stone.

To give you an idea of how nervous Donald Trump and his people are about all of this, consider that Stone just posted an image to Instagram depicting his fellow former Trump adviser (and former friend) Sam Numberg as a rat. This comes after Cohen posted a tweet claiming that Omarosa was lying, and Trump called Omarosa a “dog.” Now that Cohen has just been informed he’ll likely be charged and arrested within two weeks, we’ll see if and when he cuts his inevitable plea deal against Trump.

This may help explain why Donald Trump had the concept of a “rat” in mind when he was ranting this morning. He’s publicly insisting that his own White House Counsel Don McGahn hasn’t actually ratted him out, but Trump surely knows different. McGahn has been ratting him out for ten months, right under his nose. We’ll see how history ends up remembering McGahn, if he’s remembered at all. But it’s really starting to look like Trump will be remembered as having been taken down by his own handpicked, underhanded people.

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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #707 on: August 29, 2018, 06:00:36 pm »

Is Trump Betraying the American People? Q&A (Pt 1/6)

August 28, 2018

Part 1 of Paul Jay and Aaron Mate’s interactive discussion with viewers about the real reasons Trump should be considered a traitor by the American people – From a live recording on August 2nd, 2018



Paul Jay is the CEO and senior editor of The Real News Network. He has overseen the production of over 7,000 news stories and is the host of TRNN news analysis programming. Previously, he was executive producer of CBC Newsworld’s independent flagship debate show CounterSpin for its 10 years on air. He is an award-winning documentary filmmaker with over 20 films under his belt, including Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows; Return to Kandahar; and Never-Endum-Referendum. He was the founding chair of Hot Docs!, the Canadian International Documentary Film Festival and now the largest such festival in North America.


Aaron Maté is a host/producer for The Real News and a contributor to the Nation. He has previously reported and produced for Democracy Now!, Vice, and Al Jazeera, and written for the Toronto Star, the Intercept, and Le Monde Diplomatique.

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AARON MATE: It’s The Real News. I’m Aaron Mate. And we are doing a live Q&A with The Real News Senior Editor Paul Jay. He’ll be taking your questions throughout this hour, so if you have them, put them in the chat below wherever you’re watching, or send them to us on Twitter.

Welcome, Paul. Your thoughts on this question that we’ve been hearing about in the aftermath of the Helsinki summit, of Trump’s betrayal of the American people. Do you think that Russia should be the area of focus for this question?

PAUL JAY: Well, it’s hard to argue with anyone that says that Trump has betrayed the American people. And I’m sure he has, and will do so many, many more times. But simply meeting with Putin is not a betrayal of the American people. Now, we don’t know what was really said between Trump and Putin. I am not one that thinks there was some lovely conversations about arms reduction. Nor do I think that one should hope for such things out of a meeting between Trump and Putin. I don’t think either of them are peaceniks. But of course, Trump represents the most aggressive power in human history, I guess you could say. So they’re certainly in the same league as being dangerous characters. Trump and the American oligarchy have committed great crimes against humanity. That being said, I don’t trust any conversation between Trump and Putin. And not because either of them is the devil or are demons. Because both of them represent very reactionary states, and represent states that are essentially controlled by oligarchies, whether it’s the Russian or the American.

So yeah, I’m always wary of when two leaders like that get together. But to be wary of these negotiations or discussions, one should not feed the most reactionary fears and stoke the paranoia that harkens up all the ghosts and demons of the Cold War. One should have a sober appraisal of when a big imperial power meets a mid-level power, and look at what the consequences might be for the peoples of the United States, the people of Russia, peoples of the world.

And there’s a lot of reasons to think that Trump is betraying the American people, but not because he met with Putin. And I, you know, while I have many points of agreement with Bernie Sanders, I think it’s honestly- I don’t know. I guess outrageous. Bernie Sanders should not jump on this bandwagon. And it doesn’t, it says something- one should be careful of about Bernie Sanders’ vision of foreign policy, that he does jump on this bandwagon. Because the real reasons to fear this meeting between Trump and Putin and the real reasons for betrayal, well, first and foremost, this is the meeting of two climate science deniers. The most serious existential threat of our time and no one’s talking about that. And that’s a betrayal of the of the human species. And so we should be focused on that. We should be very concerned about that.

There was a letter going around a lot of progressive people signed, saying we shouldn’t critique this meeting because it’s a good thing when two nuclear powers meet. And of course, in principle it is. But John Bolton just appointed to the National Security Council as an adviser, I think is the position, a guy named Tim Morrison. Tim Morrison was against the START Nuclear, the treaty, Russian-American treaty. He’s against New START. He was one of the key guys pressuring Obama and lobbying for Obama to put a big investment into nuclear weapons, which he did. Apparently there’s under Obama, and continued under Trump, a trillion dollars over 10 years into developing new nuclear weapons. I mean, that’s a betrayal of the American people, both by Obama and now by Trump. We should condemn that.

And to think that, that Trump, who appoints John Bolton, who appoints a Tim Morrison- and of course Bolton and Morrison are on the same page- who are against any kind of nuclear restrictions on the American military and thus against any kind of arms treaty with anyone that might restrict Americans’ might, to think that is going to be the conversation between Trump and Putin, we should call that out. We shouldn’t be Pollyanna and create illusions that Trump is somehow going to be a peacenik with Putin. And we should try to think through what might- what those discussions might really have been. And yes, condemn them, because we condemn the oligarchies of both countries. But we don’t do it by jumping in the boat of this kind of American exceptionalism, American nationalism, rabid nationalism, where we are all of a sudden praising the CIA. And now we’re cheering on the FBI. Like, the organs of repression in the United States, who have systematically destroyed progressive political forces in this country for decades and spied on people. All of a sudden we’re rooting them on?

What’s going on in much of the liberal and much of the left in the United States is atrocious, and it’s- whatever the Russians did in terms of the 2016 elections is so insignificant compared to wrapping up this vile, rabid, chauvinistic language. And I’m really sorry to see Bernie jumping and using the same kind of words. We need to talk about the whole truth here, and not create the grounds for the kind of militaristic policies that we know Trump’s coming down the pike with, and I suspect is the real conversation between Trump and Putin, which is Iran. And what’s happening with Iran- you have Netanyahu threatening Israeli military action. The you have all kinds of back and forth rhetoric. The Iranians are now threatening they might block the Straits of Hormuz if the Americans start blocking Iranian oil exports.

We know John Bolton and Trump, not just Bolton, that the objective is regime change in Iran. And Iran’s going to be in a position with increasing economic pressure, that they’re going to need Russia and China in far more significant ways to buy Iranian oil and break the American sanctions. And that’s, in all likelihood, what Trump is really talking to Putin about. And I wasn’t in the meeting, and I guess other than a couple of translators nobody was. But if I’m looking at this situation, Trump is saying to Putin, we don’t want you to bail out the Iranian economy, and we don’t want you to bail out the Iranian government the way you did Assad in Syria. You know, we’re living with you saving Assad in Syria. But when we’re coming after destabilization of Iran, we don’t want you playing that role. And I have no idea what Putin responded with. But you know, Trump came out of those meetings smiling.

So yeah, do I think Trump has betrayed the American people? Sure. But for none of the reasons that corporate media and the whole Democratic Party establishment mostly are talking about.


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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #708 on: August 30, 2018, 10:32:47 pm »

Book Alleges Trump is Compromised by Russian Mafia

August 30, 2018   


As the legal cloud surrounding President Trump and his associates grows, the new book “House of Trump, House of Putin: The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia,” argues that Trump is compromised by financial links to Russian mafia money laundering. Author Craig Unger discusses his book

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« Reply #709 on: September 01, 2018, 04:43:00 pm »
New court filing reveals George Papadopoulos has incriminated Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions

Bill Palmer | 12:12 pm EDT September 1, 2018

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As recently as a week ago, former Donald Trump adviser George Papadopoulos and his wife Simona were publicly suggesting that George might rip up his longstanding plea deal and take his chances at trial. That’s now off the table, as Papadopoulos has formally decided to go along with the deal – although he does intend to ask the judge during his September 7th sentencing for a more lenient sentence than the one recommended by Robert Mueller. His new approach: directly incriminating Donald Trump.


Attorneys for George Papadopoulos made their official court filing for the upcoming sentencing hearing. The filing documents how Papadopoulos met with Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions during the campaign, and told them that he could get Trump a meeting with Vladimir Putin, and that “Mr. Trump nodded with approval and deferred to Mr. Sessions, who appeared to like the idea and stated that the campaign should look into it.” So why is this important?

For one thing, it directly accuses Donald Trump of having been in on the Trump campaign plot to work with the Russian government. On its own, there wouldn’t have been anything illegal about Trump meeting with Putin during the election. But when coupled with other revelations, including separate reports that Donald Trump knew in advance about his son’s meeting with Russian government representatives who were illegally offering dirt on Hillary Clinton, this new revelation helps incriminate Trump. It also means Jeff Sessions lied under oath to the House Judiciary Committee.

Of course this court filing is only for sentencing purposes. But it finally reveals at least part of what George Papadopoulos told Robert Mueller when he began cooperating with him; Mueller has had this information all along. This helps build the criminal case against Donald Trump for illegally plotting with the Russians during the election. It also means that Mueller has Sessions nailed on at least two counts of perjury, when you include the lies that forced him to recuse himself to begin with. Yesterday we learned that Trump-Russia players are being criminally pursued for committing perjury.

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« Reply #710 on: September 12, 2018, 08:04:39 pm »
Senate Democrats publish documents that catch Brett Kavanaugh committing even more felony perjury

Bill Palmer | 9:21 am EDT September 12, 2018

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The Senate confirmation hearings for Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh have already been controversial and dramatic. We’ve seen Democratic Senator Cory Booker release emails which exposed Kavanaugh as a shady character and an ideological extremist👹☠️. We’ve seen GOP Senator John Cornyn 😈 make the empty threat of expelling Booker. Yesterday we saw Democrats seek to expose Kavanaugh’s apparent gambling problem. Now the Democrats are zeroing in further on Kavanaugh’s status as a perjurer.

Influential Senator Dick Durbin tweeted this: “In 2006, I asked Judge Kavanaugh about his role in the 4th Circuit nomination of Jim Haynes – a key figure in crafting the Bush White House detention & interrogation policies. Under oath, he said, ‘I’ve—I know Jim Haynes, but it was not one of the nominations that I handled.’ However, these emails from 2002 and 2003 show that then-Associate White House Counsel Brett Kavanaugh played a substantial role in the decision to nominate Haynes, including examining whether Haynes ‘would be an across-the-board judicial conservative.'” Durbin then posted the emails in question.

Durbin went on to add: “This is a theme that we see emerge with Judge Kavanaugh time and time again – he says one thing under oath, and then the documents tell a different story. It is no wonder the White House and Senate Republicans are rushing through this nomination and hiding his record.” The key phrase here is “under oath.” Lying under oath is perjury, a felony, and you generally go to prison for it. Senate Democrats are exposing Kavanaugh as not merely a serial liar, but a criminal liar.

As Palmer Report has previously spelled out, the Democrats are trying to do two things here. The first is to expose Brett Kavanaugh as such as toxic pile of crap, certain vulnerable Republican Senators might conclude that they can’t vote for him, for fear it’ll cost them reelection. The second is to firmly establish that Kavanaugh has committed multiple felonies, which would set the stage for Kavanaugh to be impeached even if he is confirmed. More and more, it’s starting to feel like – whatever direction this goes in for now – it’ll end up with Kavanaugh in prison.

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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #711 on: September 14, 2018, 01:47:56 pm »


Here's What We Know About All That Bottled Water Abandoned in Puerto Rico [Updated]

By Yessenia Funes

September 12, 2018

Filed to: WHAT A WASTE

The government’s mismanagement of the crisis Hurricane Maria wrought on Puerto Rico was once again thrust into the spotlight this week, when photos of a large number of bottled water pallets sitting derelict outside an airport in Ceiba went viral on social media.

But while the public outcry was swift after CBS News Correspondent David Begnaud broadcasted the photos of what he said looked like “millions” of bottles of water on his Twitter account Tuesday night, what really happened may be a bit more complex than a simple failure to deliver relief supplies.

The photographer who took these images, Abdiel Santana, works for the Puerto Rican Joint Forces of Rapid Action, a federal law enforcement agency. He told Begnaud he had noticed these loads of water in October or November of last year, according to CBS. After flying over the region again recently, Santana told Begnaud he noticed the bottles were still there and uploaded the images to Facebook Tuesday. Earther has reached out to Santana for comment and we will update if we hear back.

Puerto Rican General Services Administration (GSA) has a somewhat different account of the events. In a press release shared with Earther, the agency explained the Puerto Rican government was eager to receive some of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s “excess water inventory” and claimed about 20,000 pallets in May 2018. But after delivering over 700 pallets, the agency received “several complaints” about their smell and taste. That’s why the rest of the bottles are still sitting unused, per the agency.

On Thursday, FEMA told CBS News it had moved the water outside in January to save money before transferring it over to the Puerto Rican government in April.

FEMA 👹 was initially quick to distance itself from the story. On Wednesday, the agency told Earther that the water was handed off to the GSA, and, from there, the water was its responsibility. Looks like the administration is clapping back at FEMA, however, with claims that the water wasn’t fit to drink by the time they got it. Now, the Puerto Rican government is coordinating water tests with FEMA and the Department of Health.

“I always had food and water to give the people, sometimes two cases of water for families.”
“The Municipality of Barceloneta and the Corporation for Public Dissemination expressed these complaints,” said GSA Administrator Ottmar Chávez, in the press release.

All of this is news to Ceiba Mayor Angelo Cruz Ramos, who told Earther he had no idea these pallets of water were sitting within his municipality. He found out about it Tuesday night like the rest of us. He doesn’t have access to the area where the water is, he said, because it’s run by FEMA.

However, Cruz Ramos said his municipality had enough water and food at the height of the crisis. Around 700 to 800 people would visit a local distribution center to pick up water and food every day in the aftermath of the storm, and the mayor would also hit the streets to give out further water. Once power returned to the region in March, he ended relief supply distribution efforts.

“I’m thankful to FEMA and the U.S. government,” he told Earther. “I always had food and water to give the people, sometimes two cases of water for families.”

The same can’t be said for other remote parts of the island where water distribution centers were something out of a fairy tale. Still, Cruz Ramos made a good point that once this water was left in the sun even for a day or two, it was no longer safe to drink. The Caribbean sun is no joke, and researchers caution against drinking bottled water that’s been left out in the garage or a car all day during the summer because of the chemicals that can leach from the plastic into the water. In Puerto Rico, summer never ends.

This entire mess comes on the heels of President Donald Trump 👹 calling the U.S. response to Hurricane Maria an “unsung success.” Whoever’s at fault, thousands of water bottles abandoned on an island where people have been struggling for months to access clean water isn’t exactly what success looks like.

Updated: 9/13/18, 2:30 p.m. ET: After a day of outrage, FEMA 👹 admitted to CBS News it had left the water bottles out since January as a cost-saving measure. It then went on to give the General Services Administration the water in April. The story has been updated to include this new information.

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« Reply #712 on: September 14, 2018, 08:50:40 pm »
Bret Kavanaugh Should Be Impeached for Lying to the Senate (w/guest Lisa Graves)


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Brett Kavanaugh has lied to the senate during his hearing a week prior to the publication of this video, by stating he has no knowledge of memos from his time during the Bush administration, here to correct Kavanaugh and call for his impeachment is Lisa Graves the author of the very memos Brett Kavanaugh lied about to the Senate, Should Brett be impeached rather than elevated for lying to the senate?
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« Reply #713 on: September 14, 2018, 09:13:24 pm »

The Collapse of the American Empire?

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The Agenda welcomes Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Chris Hedges, who over the past decade and a half has made his name as a columnist, activist and author. He's been a vociferous public critic of presidents on both sides of the American political spectrum, and his latest book, 'America, the Farewell Tour,' is nothing short of a full-throated throttling of the political, social, and cultural state of his country.
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« Reply #714 on: September 14, 2018, 10:01:03 pm »

Rick Wilson, "Everything Trump 🦀 Touches Dies ☠️ 🚩 "

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Rick Wilson discusses his book, "Everything Trump Touches Dies", at Politics and Prose on 8/28/18.

Wilson is a seasoned Republican political strategist well versed in the art of negative ads. He’s also been a leader of the Never Trump movement, and his searing analysis of the president, from the early days of Trump’s campaign through his first year in office, is a no-holds-barred critique of the damage Trump has done to the country, the Republican Party, and the conservative movement. Combining his signature dark humor with penetrating insight about today’s politics, Wilson dissects Trump’s deceptions, exposes the illusions his followers blindly follow, and calls out Trump’s enablers among politicians and media figures. Yet dire as the situation is, Wilson is hopeful that the nation can find its way back to reason. 

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« Reply #715 on: September 15, 2018, 12:04:38 pm »
A COMPARISON OF RICK GATES AND PAUL MANAFORT’S PLEA DEALS

September 15, 2018 by emptywheel

SNIPPET:

THE GOVERNMENT IS INTENT ON TAKING ALL OF MANAFORT’S STUFF 

The Manafort plea includes over three pages laying out how the government is going to take his ill-gotten gains. Given my newfound obsession with Paul Manafort’s forfeitures, I’ll write that up separately (or better yet make bmaz, who actually knows something about how this works, do so). The short version, though, is the government is intent on making sure they’ll get it all.

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https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/15/a-comparison-of-rick-gates-and-paul-manaforts-plea-deals/

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« Reply #716 on: September 15, 2018, 02:09:16 pm »


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harpie says:
September 15, 2018 at 8:51 am
Yesterday on Twitter Marcy responded to @StanleyCohenLaw:

SCL 6:56 PM – 14 Sep 2018 3/statements in furtherance of the conspiracy are an execption to the hearsay rule once prima facie conspiracy is established and the participation of declarant. Confrontation the only limit & statements by unindicted coconspirator i.e. the president are admissible as 2 others.

emptywheel: 7:03 PM – 14 Sep 2018 Yup. Hearsay exception is going to light up the Trump conspiracy.

…ordering popcorn now…


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Bob Conyers says:
September 15, 2018 at 10:40 am
Can someone unpack this for us non-lawyers?

I have a basic sense of hearsay, but I’m quite foggy on how it’s admissable here, and even more, why it’s such a threat.

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bmaz says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:09 am
See Rule of Evidence 801 d2E:

(d) Statements That Are Not Hearsay.
 A statement that meets the following conditions is not hearsay:

(1) A Declarant-Witness’s Prior Statement.
 The declarant testifies and is subject to cross-examination about a prior statement, and the statement:

(A)
 is inconsistent with the declarant’s testimony and was given under penalty of perjury at a trial, hearing, or other proceeding or in a deposition;

(B)
 is consistent with the declarant’s testimony and is offered:

(i) to rebut an express or implied charge that the declarant recently fabricated it or acted from a recent improper influence or motive in so testifying; or

(ii) to rehabilitate the declarant’s credibility as a witness when attacked on another ground
; or

(C)
 identifies a person as someone the declarant perceived earlier.

(2) An Opposing Party’s Statement.
 The statement is offered against an opposing party and:

(A)
 was made by the party in an individual or representative capacity;

(B)
 is one the party manifested that it adopted or believed to be true;

(C)
 was made by a person whom the party authorized to make a statement on the subject;

(D)
 was made by the party’s agent or employee on a matter within the scope of that relationship and while it existed; or

(E)
 was made by the party’s coconspirator during and in furtherance of the conspiracy.

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orionATL says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:01 am
i had just read that manafort had pleaded guilty to two counts, one of which was conspiracy to defraud the u.s. that seems to me to be a very important outcome for the osc team.

i’ve never been too sure of that particular charge re a jury’s decision, though i no doubt mueller’s team (who actually know the law :) ) have confidence in their decision to deploy it.

at the very least now, manafort’s guilty plea sets up confraudus as the hurdle other conspirators better be able to jump cleanly over or it’s a face full of dirt and time in the slammer for them.

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harpie says:
September 15, 2018 at 9:34 am
Justin Hendrix:

I’m interested whether he [Manafort] helped funnel payments to right wing media sites on behalf of Yanukovich. / Per this: [links to this 2013 article]: Exclusive: How Ukraine Wooed Conservative Websites  Rosie Gray 7/16/13 https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/exclusive-how-ukraine-wooed-conservative-websites

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Willis Warren says:
September 15, 2018 at 10:15 am
This is just amazing stuff, Marcy.  Wow

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 10:37 am
Marcy, I think you retweeted something yesterday about Dowd emailing all of the people in the JDA that, paraphrased, ‘Manafort doesn’t know anything about the campaign’ (which is insane on the face of it since he was a campaign chairman, but I digress).

Doesn’t Dowd put himself at risk of obstruction? He quit. He is no longer Trump’s attorney. Isn’t everything he says AFTER resigning not under attorney/client privilege? Plus, it may be have been an utterance in the furtherance of a crime: obstruction, (keeping everyone zipped without being privy to Manafort’s cooperation)?

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:10 am
Apparently not.

In case anyone is interested:
Id.at 392; see also IBJ Whitehall
Bank and Trust Co. v. Corey & Associates, Inc., 1999 WL 617842, at *3
(M.D. Ill. Aug. 12, 1999) (joint defense privilege cannot be waived without the consent of all parties to the defense, except when one of the joint defendants becomes an adverse party in the litigation).
Because cooperating with the government, and even testifying against a former joint defense member, is generally not deemed “actually adverse” to the interests of other joint defense members, it does not trigger a waiver of the privilege. Instead, even when one defendant agrees to cooperate with the government and testify against his co-defendants, the assumption is that joint defense information will remain privileged, and will not be useable against the producing party.

THE HENKEDECISION •
In United States v. Henke
, 222 F.3d 633 (9th Cir. 2000)
https://durietangri.com/sites/default/files/drafting_0.pdf

Joint defense agreements: the benefits and the risks
https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2013/07/joint_defense_agreem.html

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bmaz says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:28 am
First, let’s stick to criminal context as opposed to civil. Second, much depends on the nature of the JDA. Without seeing the language there is simply no way to know how it might be enforced. Lastly, I have issues about a JDA where most of the 37….37….people involved are not even defendants per se.

There is no easy answer at this point to this question. Googling stuff will not help that fact.

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:32 am
I’m not a lawyer. I’m just trying to understand. And yes, that 37 people are involved is both astounding and incomprehensible.

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TheraP says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:32 pm
Could we add disturbing?  (Thanks for asking these questions, Trip!)

I honestly hope it’s also a sign of 37 very anxious possible defendants.   (Or conspirators?)

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Tracy says:
September 15, 2018 at 1:23 pm
Defendants vs. witnesses (as I think these 37 were described), that is interesting.

It all seems v wrong headed!! Aren’t there ethics people all over this?

But yeah, what happens now re: that JDA/ people still in/ why Dowd still involved/ what happens w/ Manafort sounds v unclear from all the comments I’ve read here, and perhaps impossible to know w/out seeing the actual JDA. Well, I look forward to a future post about it ;)

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earlofhuntingdon says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:38 am
This gets complicated, but the short version is that Dowd is bound by the attorney-client privilege to keep confidential permanently information he learned about during the representation.

There are few exceptions.  One is that if the client and attorney litigate the bill or something else regarding the representation, then the privilege – which is the client’s – is deemed waived by the client.  That is, the attorney is able to use information learned during the representation to defend herself against claims made by the client.

After Dowd’s representation of Trump ceased, he would have to keep confidential whatever he learned during the representation, where that information is covered by the privilege.  Their private discussions, for example, would be covered.

Discussions in front of non-lawyers – other than Dowd’s staff or people working for him in connection with the representation (e.g., an accountant) – or lawyers not acting for Trump and not bound by a joint defense or similar agreement with Trump, would not be covered. If Trump opens up about privileged information in front of his own staff, for example, then he’s waived privilege.

The usual course for a lawyer, post-representation, is to keep shtum about it.

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:47 am
Thanks.

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Tracy says:
September 15, 2018 at 1:29 pm
And Earl, do you know why according to Maddow (I think from Fear) Ty Cobb does NOT have privilege w/ Trump – why Cobb can be called as a witness – and why when T learned this he was like: oh ****, I told him a lot of stuff.

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Aneela says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:12 am
Marcy,

“Had he succeeded, perhaps Trump would have recognized the jeopardy that put Manfort (and, presumably, himself) in. Perhaps he would have taken that moment to pardon Manafort, and save him from that jeopardy.”

Not understanding why, since they were in a joint defense agreement, Manafort’s lawyers couldn’t just inform Trump’s lawyers of what Rick Gates had given up rather than having to go through the circuitous route of reading into the public record?

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:29 am
Aside from what he knew or didn’t know, or the potential pipeline, it would seem that they were keeping the JDA on the down lo, at least as far as the public was concerned. Who knew until a few days ago? It looks kind of bad when some are convicted of crimes, and the others look guilty by association, in a sense, since they considered their interests ‘equal’ via the agreement. I realize that is perception more than fact, but in politics perception is everything.

Trump was kind of between a rock and hard place with the pardon. If he had done this before the midterms and before Kavanaugh was brought up, the public perception would have been that of guilt and obstruction. That would make Kavanaugh’s appointment even more loaded. I think the GOP wouldn’t let him do it when it would have served him best (because they were invested in their own agendas), and threatened to withdraw support from him (someone like McConnell comes to mind).

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bmaz says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:56 am
JDA’s are never public information. The fact that it is closely held is as it should be.

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:00 pm
So then Rudy shouldn’t have should have kept it shut, as usual?

Does the gov’t typically know before trials, or is this something they learn during the trial? Or perhaps, is it something that is attempted to be kept secret throughout?

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bmaz says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:09 pm
Government may or may not directly learn of a JDA, but usually do not get affirmatively told. More often they can just guess by how their interactions with the lot of the defendants’ attorneys goes.

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:13 pm
Thanks.

It sounds like Rudy was trying to send a message, or was just being stupid with this declaration.

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bmaz says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Hard to tell with Rudy!

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TheraP says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:22 pm
Since some of these 37 are in this Defense Agreement as parties to a conspiracy, and at least one of them is a known serial liar (even to an attorney), does that potentially make this “agreement” also part of a conspiracy? Or Obstruction of Justice? And if so, would that allow Mueller or a Grand Jury to pry into some of this?

(Hold your fire, please. I am a tender, if naive, soul and not out to incur your wrath. Or to disturb the flow of information here.)

Thanks for whatever help you can provide. (As somehow this grand effort – of alleged conspirators – to collaborate on defense feels disturbing to me. Also to Justice being done.)

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bmaz says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:48 pm
The answer is, I don’t know, maybe! Maybe not. Who knows? Again, so much comes down to how the actual JDA’s are worded and/or agreed to.

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TheraP says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:58 pm
Thanks! So they’re open questions. And we’ll see how this plays out.

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Trip says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:18 am
Do we think the stipulation in Manafort’s cooperation agreement to offer info to the gov’t without his attorney(s), frees them (lawyers) from negative consequences associated therein with the JDA? Or does it not matter since the attorney agreed on behalf of Manafort?

*I know this is probably a very dumb question, but not being a lawyer, I’m having full comprehension issues.

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orionATL says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:20 am
i found this discussion of manafort’s plea deal useful:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/15/i-was-prosecutor-heres-what-stands-out-me-about-manaforts-deal-with-mueller/?

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Willis Warren says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:28 am
WAPO fire walled, what’s the takeaway?

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TheraP says:
September 15, 2018 at 12:11 pm
To evade the fire wall, erasing history and cache generally works for me. Either that or set up an account to post. (That’s still free, I believe.)

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Thomas says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:30 am
From what I piece together from public information:

It seems likely that the back and forth between Russians and the Trump campaign was not direct communications between individuals, but rather, one individual (Manafort, eg) would send a message to another (Kiliminick, eg), who would then share it with a group(Russian Intel, oligarchs, Putin) and a different individual from that group (Russian official, eg) would then give the answer to another individual (Carter Page, eg) who would then transmit the answer (to Manafort, eg)

This may be the way that Manafort, JD Gordon, Page handled the “Memorandum of Understanding” or quid pro quo, of the conspiracy.

If I’m right, then the GOP platform change was a show of good faith about the future quid pro quo arrangement to lift sanctions, and Trump’s  “Russia if you are listening” statement was a signal for the Russians to begin executing the campaign assistance.

This is also the likely way that the whole NRA/Butina/Gordon scheme was coordinated, and THAT is the likely scheme alluded to in Manafort’s notes about RNC fundraising during the Trump Tower meeting.

If I am right, Gordon and Page are next, not Don jr or Stone.

Not discussed by anyone yet is the connection between Flynn and Gordon. Flynn was the person handling the sanctions relief payoff after the election.

I think it’s likely Flynn was a lot more instrumental in the entire conspiracy than has heretofore been revealed.

It would explain why prosecutors keep putting off sentencing Flynn over the initial charges, and why they keep on questioning him as they learn more from other witnesses.

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Thomas says:
September 15, 2018 at 11:51 am
Recently I read everything I could find about the Seth Rich conspiracy theory.
Everyone involved in that cover story to divert attention away from the DNC hack by the GRU has been under investigation by the Special Counsel, including Jerome Corsi.
Jack Burkman (a Trump campaign fundraiser and associate of Rick Gates!) went to extraordinary lengths to push that conspiracy theory.
I watched the press conference Burkman held with a “witness” who by telephone told Wapo, Daily Beast, and many other skeptical journalists that Seth Rich was killed by federal agents connected to Rod Rosenstein and MS13.
Shortly after that, Mueller’s indictment of 12 Russian military officers for the DNC hack completely destroyed the Seth Rich conspiracy theory.
After that, the Rich conspiracy theorists went silent.
It is plain to me that Stone, Hannity, Burkman, Butowski and Fox News (and others!) ALL carried water for this conspiracy theory which was a Russian disinformation operation.
It’s clear to me that Roger Stone was deeply involved. I am waiting with anticipation for Hannity to go down, too.
I think this part of the story won’t materialize until after the election though.

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September 14, 2018 by emptywheel

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/14/the-objection-that-made-muellers-case/

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« Reply #717 on: September 16, 2018, 05:18:20 pm »
Kavanaugh Accuser Breaks Silence About Sexual Misconduct Allegations

BY MICHAEL BURKE - 09/16/18 01:46 PM EDT

SNIPPET:

Ford told the Post that Kavanaugh and a friend, Mark Judge, were both “stumbling drunk” when they took her into a bedroom while they were at a house in suburban Maryland. Judge and Kavanaugh were both students at Georgetown Preparatory School.

Judge and Kavanaugh pushed Ford onto a bed in the room, where rock-and-roll music was playing at a high volume, Ford alleged.

According to her, Kavanaugh “held her down with the weight of his body and fumbled with her clothes, seemingly hindered by his intoxication,” the Post reported. She added that both of the boys were laughing “maniacally.”

Ford was able to escape when Judge jumped on top of her and Kavanaugh and broke them up, she said. She said she then locked herself in a nearby bathroom for five or 10 minutes before leaving the house.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/406925-kavanaugh-accuser-breaks-silence-about-sexual-misconduct-allegations-detailed
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« Reply #718 on: September 17, 2018, 03:51:12 pm »
🕵️ MUST READ POST and COMMENTS THREAD by ETHICAL LEGAL EAGLES:

HAVE MARK JUDGE TESTIFY ALONG WITH CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD (AND KAVANAUGH)

September 17, 2018/54 Comments/in Law /by emptywheel

SNIPPET from SEVERAL EXCELLENT, historically accurate, comments: ✨🕯️     

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Jim says:
September 17, 2018 at 12:36 pm
The GOP has been co-opted by right wing evangelical crazies and wannabe libertarian crazies.  It started under Nixon, really took flight under Reagan, and went to hell in a handbasket when Gingrich had the keys.  The party is completely controlled by people like the Kochs and the Mercers, the money men who have far too much influence on policy planks.

Add the Citizen’s United ruling really untying the hands of the monied to influence elections, and this is the result.  A tsunami of madness.

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marc schuman says:
September 17, 2018 at 2:27 pm
Thank you Jim, well said.  A tsunami for sure.

When people ask “what happened?” its important that they know this was not some kind of overnight thing, although as Hannah Arendt pointed out, it took less than a couple of decades for Europe to slide into a totalitarian horror with death camps.  Importantly, going forward, we have to convince people that this kind of thing wont end with Trump – not by a long shot.

Morris Berman now lives in Mexico – his readers and friends there should know well by now what happened up here over the last couple of decades and why Morris now chooses to live there instead.  (Not saying I agree with all of his opinions, just pointing out that he articulates the gravity of the problem pretty well.)

Media control and dumbing down over the last couple of decades is of course another big part of it.  Jon Stewart said it something like this and few others have: (paraphrasing) “if you listen to the radio and watch Fox news, its pretty much a continuous 24/7 alarm bell that the immigrant gangs are en mass trying to get over the border and are coming to steal from you and **** your daughter …… so if that’s all you hear every day, then what Trump is saying makes perfect sense to you.”

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Ollie says:
September 17, 2018 at 11:19 am
Oh thank you Marcy for writing this today.  I watched DN! and Amy had this woman’s attorney on and as of this am airing?  No one has reached out to the attorney at all from Congress.  No one.  Well, I guess Kellyanne has publicly stated that this woman should be hear (for whatever that’s worth, lol).  I think this is a great idea about also have Mark Judge testify too as well as Brett.

 

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earlofhuntingdon says:
September 17, 2018 at 11:22 am
By all means, let’s ignore prep school indiscretions – she was only a girl and she wanted it – and let’s comfort the comfortable.  But we must prosecute those miscreant 15-17 year olds as adults for murder, especially when they are people of color.  Slippery slope, moral consequences, and all that.

The disparities of the plot read like the banksters rewarding themselves for nearly toppling the global financial system, while foreclosing on nearly a million people who worked hard to own a home, sometimes foreclosing on people who were not delinquent, simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I realize the Goopers have no shame, let alone an awareness of hypocrisy, but that should not stop anyone else from pointing out their failings, and proposing fixes for them, as well as the apparent failings of Mr. Kavanaugh.

He has the hallmarks of a well-groomed political hit man, not a legal scholar.  Some of his quotes from his Ken Starr days seem straight out of a coming of age novel, by a guy who never came of age.  His carefully built persona, meant to convince us that the man who would be king has the substance of a real one, I find unpersuasive.

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pseudonymous in nc says:
September 17, 2018 at 12:01 pm
I was thinking a lot about Molly Ringwald’s reassessment of her role in John Hughes’s movies, and how those films simultaneously spoke to young adults who felt marginalised while treating really sketchy sexual stuff as normative.

As I said before, the word that came to mind for Kavanaugh during the hearings was “unctuous”. The focus on his 80s elite-bro years has only heightened that. Impunity for me means the full force of the carceral state for thee.

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Vern says:
September 17, 2018 at 12:34 pm
A few more syllables but better:

oleaginous

(root is “oleo” as in the margarine — with all that implies)

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Pete says:
September 17, 2018 at 12:19 pm
I dunno what the law was 30+ years ago in the place where this (is alleged to have happened – gotta say that even though my gut tells me it did happen) – but it’s possible that even if this were consensual (and my gut tells me no way it was) it’s still possible to have been a sex crime.

My point is, there are many more teenage boys in more contemporary times who are labelled sex offenders for a variety of sexual conduct..  I suppose one could argue the binary status of some of those labelings, but I suspect a black-out drunk attempted sexual assault (****) would get you in legal trouble and labeled in a lot of places.

I have witnessed black out drunk persons “function” in ways that, if you did not witness it, you would no believe.

Kavahaugh (still) under oath, Ms. Ford and Judge under oath, and the two other females as well if possible.

Pete

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posaune says:
September 17, 2018 at 2:00 pm
Pete @ 12:19

Seems like there’s not a SOL on sexual assault in MD; IANAL and I could be wrong, though.

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mathteacher says:
September 17, 2018 at 11:25 am
Also, the conversation about youthful indiscretions happened on the day that Kennedy retired. Funny coincidence, no?

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readerOfTeaLeaves says:
September 17, 2018 at 1:01 pm
And when you put together that Kennedy’s son work(ed) for Deutsche: (1) in a division that seemed skilled at laundering Russian rubles into American real estate, and (2) which made loans to the Trump Org, the plot thickens.

Add onto this foul mire that Kavanaugh was nominated by President PussyGrabber, a man who repeatedly sent his lawyer to alternately harass women, and/or pay them off.   And who wished that he could date his own daughter (!).  In addition, his current tv lawyer (Judi Ruliani), is notable for cross dressing: wig, lipstick, nylons, yada yada.

Lady Karma must be a **** on wheels, and she seems to morph into an S/M Dominatrix when she gets Trump and Kavanaugh in her sights.   I imagine Lady Karma is having the time of her very long, bitchy, and irony-laden life — delivering a whole lot of poetic justice to asshats who can’t seem to decipher the real thing.

 

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AndTheSlithyToves says:
September 17, 2018 at 1:30 pm
ROTL, Thank you for reminding everyone of Kennedy’s (privileged) kids and their sleazy behavior. He’s another smug a$$hat that sold his soul to the devil of money and deprived Al Gore of the presidency.

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« Reply #719 on: September 19, 2018, 11:32:50 am »
Here comes Brett Kavanaugh’s cradle of filth

Bill Palmer | 9:16 am EDT September 18, 2018

Palmer Report » Opinion

Here we go yet again. Now that the stage has been set for Dr. Christine Blasey Ford to publicly testify before the Senate about her attempted r a p e accusation against Brett Kavanaugh, and for Kavanaugh to testify in his defense, we’re already seeing the ugliest factions of American society racing to remind us just how ugly they are. It’s already begun.


The race is now on to insist that Kavanaugh – because he’s a powerful man – should be taken at his word, while Ford – because she’s a woman – should not be believed. We’re also seeing the argument that even if Kavanaugh did try to r a p e  a woman, he’s somehow magically a better person now, so we should just ignore it and put him on the Supreme Court anyway, where he’ll get to spend the rest of his life deciding the fates of other lowlifes and their victims. That’s just so pathetic.


If Brett Kavanaugh were being accused of having stolen a candy bar from a convenience store in his youth, we could have a serious conversation about whether he’s grown over the decades from a minor violator of the law, to someone who can be trusted to interpret the law. But attempted  R A P E? Are you kidding me? That’s the kind of argument you’d expect to hear after a guy has spent twenty years in prison, and he’s asking to be let out on parole. Even then, you’d expect him to be placed on a sex offender registry for the rest of his life, not on the Supreme Court.


If nothing else, times like these serve as a good litmus test for society, because we see the lowest of the low crawling out of their cradle of filth in order to tell us how they feel. Take a look around at the politicians, pundits, public figures, and guys at the local pub who are arguing that we should automatically believe Brett Kavanaugh because he’s a man, and disbelieve Christine Blasey Ford because she’s a woman. These are the people you can safely reject from society, because if they’re that morally wrong about this, they’re never going to be morally right about anything.

https://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/cradle-of-filth/12758/

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