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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #615 on: March 19, 2018, 05:55:41 pm »

Goldne Oxen said: That's the group your a member of, would think long and hard about staying in it and espousing their hate mongering, crybaby loser, unpatriotic and destructive  behavior Eddie.

No it's not. You are deliberately misrepresenting my POV, which is ad hom. Lay off,
or I'll tell you what team I think you're on. Anyone who follows your posts gets wise to your game after a while. Don't think you can play schoolyard games with me. This ain't my first rodeo. I'm nicer to you than I should be, most of the time. Don't take advantage.

We differ in our opinion of who and what Donald Trump is.

Hillary Clinton, and Obama have not moved on, that's the problem.

Both lumps of **** continue their venomous attacks, unprecedented in American pride, in insulting and defecating on our President and the disgusted with the status quo millions of our fellow citizens who saw fit to vote for him.

No. Just no.

Fox "News" (sic) avers that Trump and HRC are somehow "bickering." I put it to you to count up the number of times Trump has mentioned Clinton compared to the opposite. Trump rage-tweets about HRC and calls her a name almost every day, especially when he needs to keep his base of dupes riled. Punching down is a crowd-pleaser. The only mention HRC has made lately of Orange Hitler is that she accused Trump of having “quite an affinity for dictators” and said he “really likes their authoritarian posturing and behavior.”

That's the self-evident truth.

Fat Nixon has arguably spent an inordinate amount of time on social media attacking a person whom he defeated, leading to the $64 question: Is Trump obsessed with Hillary Clinton? He certainly finds her to be convenient.

And Obama? Really? Since decamping, he has comported himself with the same dignity that he displayed while Presidentin' While Black.

Both lumps of **** continue their venomous attacks, unprecedented in American pride, in insulting and defecating on our President and the disgusted with the status quo millions of our fellow citizens who saw fit to vote for him.

"Lumps of ****," "venomous attacks," insulting and defecating." Sounds like projection to me.

You want to prove that assertion?
Show your work. Post it here, and source it from some reputable news source. If it exists, i'd like to see it, because I comb through the sewers of the internet each day compiling a digest, and I have yet to find it. But I'm just an old crank with a hobby.

I'm betting you can't, because evidence of such behavior on the part of HRC or BHO, that is, behavior equivalent to the outrages committed by the current resident of the White House, does not exist outside of the fevered imaginations of right wing fantasts or operators of Macedonian web sites.

Well said, Surly.

Eddie and Surly, I must admit I cannot figure out why you continue to attempt to reason with   

If you want to just keep some dialogue going for the sake of views, then that is understandable, but Golden Oxen, consistent pseudo-Christian devoted worshipper of gold and himself, is enamored of Trump. Therefore, he cannot be reasoned with.

Golden Oxen hypocritically rails about government corruption that he "claims to be against" and is silent as DEATH when massive real estate FRAUD by "private" enterprize Trump India hotels business partner is caught DOING in India what Trump has AWAYS DONE EVERYWHERE, whether in government or out of it (it's in the news today  ;D).

The irrelevant half truths constantly being recycled by the Trumpers (Obama was "worse", Hillary evil, etc. Ad Nausem) are so transparently obvious attempts at distraction from Tump's Traiterous Governmental Corruption and Crime Spree that they would be worthy of pity if they weren't pushed so repeatedly by the fascist/Libertarian Kochroaches trying to destroy the last vestiges of individual freedom and liberty we have in this country.

As I said about six months ago, Golden Oxen has gone fully into Orwellian mindfuck 😈. That is what Trumpers 🦀 in a desperate attempt to keep people from seeing that it is they 😈 who have all the mens rea dastardly society destroying activity that they accuse others of. 

Trumpers, like Trump, are "wise" in their own eyes. Golden Oxen is an unapologetic Trumper.

Do you see a man wise in his own eyes?

There is more hope for a fool than for him. Proverbs 26:12

In my view, we can either respond to GO's posts and try to make our dissenting case in a reasonable way, or we can do something we like a lot less, which is not let him make his posts (and I'd hate to do that), or put him under moderation, which is way more work than I want to do.

What I don't like to do is allow comments I strongly disagree with to stand up with no dissent.  I favor open dialog and even heated arguments to censorship....and censorship is a "gotcha" that GO likes to use to claim he isn't treated fairly. I won't play that game. I'd rather just tell him when I disagree. And that's not just GO, but anybody. I favor letting people speak their piece, and then calling them out if it seems necessary. And anybody can be wrong. I'm wrong a lot, and I try to be willing to listen to other people's POV.

I guess I ran Knarf off arguing with his SJW and #MeToo posts. I hope not. I just like to say what's on my mind. I try to be respectful to everyone. 

At heart, GO wants to be part of a group that thinks just like he does. He want to belong. He also likes to suck up to people he considers special, like Ashvin and LD.  He always writes them such effusive compliments, he's practically falling all over himself. It's completely transparent. But I think he often makes good points, and he's a good man. Libertarian belief systems resonate with me. But I've learned that for most high profile people, the powerful people of our world, that it's an excuse and a smokescreen.

If you read what Charles Koch says in an interview, you'd think he was a great guy and a genius. In reality, he's committed more atrocities than you can list. You have to judge on what people do, and not just on what they say.
Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate:
For the Lord will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them. Pr. 22:22-23


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