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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #615 on: March 19, 2018, 05:03:08 pm »

Eddie and Surly, I must admit I cannot figure out why you continue to attempt to reason with  (GO).

If you want to just keep some dialogue going for the sake of views, then that is understandable...

I argue with RE on this score as well.

Politically, GO and I will never agree. Yet this is a man susceptible to the arguments of Chris Hedges, who I think we can all agree is one of the smartest guys in the room and a man of impeccable morality. Politics aside, GO has made many contributions to this forum which I find useful and helpful. Edifying, even. When he goes ad hom (or when you or I do), we get to take our respective vocabularies for a walk, vent some spleen, but really accomplish nothing.  An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, etc.

I can be as sanctimonious as the next motherfucker, but what does that make me? An ass hole. At least I have the satisfaction of being correct, but I'm not going to convince GO of anything. He will have to convince himself. IN the fullness of time, I think he will, although he might not admit it. This place has a decided leftward twist, so GO has chosen a tough room in which to make a living. Yet he shows up here every day for the give-and-take. GO is so far to the right he thinks Eddie is a lefty, which is actually pretty funny. He's anything but. I grew up the son of a trade union Dem, picked up some academic leftism in college, but consider myself to have the same attitudes my father had. It's the world that's gone and done spun to the right, making people like me look like communists.

One can only show admiration for a man who shows he can take a punch. Having taken plenty of my own along the way, I do, anyhow.

This just in: it's only words. I give AZ a good thwok between the shoulder blades when he posts strange stuff, and find no difficulty arguing with Palloy or even RE. Hell, especially RE. If I'm not pissing on his shoes one every two weeks or so he thinks I don't love him anymore.

RE started the Diner Forum as a forum for untrammeled free speech and vigorous disputation. We'd be insulting the premises of this place if we offered anything less. As for Continuing an ongoing conversation with GO, when it comes to politics I will defend my turf, but feel free to enjoy the other aspects of his offerings, whether it's the statue of a pilgrim or an appreciation for the fine points of corned beef.

Maybe it's because I'm keenly aware of my own mortality, but I find myself thinking of the old quote, "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." And let's keepit in perspective: by the simple fact of showing up here, we all recognize the fact that we're all doomed.

Free Speech is not a license to engage in Fascist Buillshit.

Surly, how do you know that Golden Oxen is not putting up a sympathetic front appearing to be susceptible to the arguments of Chris Hedges?

A long time ago on this forum you argued with me stating you "did not believe GO is a racist". He is. I knew it then. You resisted, and probably still resist, believing it. All those pictures of the downtrodden that GO posts, just like his claim to celebrate all that Chris Hedges stands for, is not credible. GO can sound SO sympathitic and SO reasonable for a while. Then one fine day he blurts out what he really thinks. If you want to believe he is just "on the rag" that day, fine. I vigorously disagree.

I could write for HOURS about what I have observed from Mr. GO passive aggressive fun and games for the last 5 years or so, but you have been there too, so I will leave you to ponder whether GO is stringing you along or not.  ;)  8)

This is not about sanctimony, it is about TRUTH and OBJECTIVE DISCOURSE.

Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart. Ps. 97:11


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