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AGelbert

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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2014, 03:51:54 pm »
 sure (1+ / 0-)

it is possible, if you change the Senate rules.

It is not possible if you allow all the foot-dragging
Seeking to be as wise as Fioral

by GideonAB on Fri Nov 07, 2014 at 11:07:41 AM EST

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* [new]  Senate "rules" (2+ / 0-)

But they won't do that. Ever since Cheney got bent out of shape because Jeffords foiled his attempt at getting Republican control of the Senate by going independent, they have INVENTED out of WHOLE UNCONSTITUTIONAL CLOTH, the BULL**** that a super majority is needed and other TRIPE like being able to "filibuster" by sitting on your ass.

Anybody that thinks all the press hype before this S- election was not deliberately aimed at pushing the LIE that Republicans were "favored" so the voting "results" would match the propaganda is naive.

Get this, people: There WAS NO HORSE RACE HERE, PERIOD. The people want democracy and they are not going to get it as long the Fossil Fuel Fascist Oligarchs continue in power in this inverted totalitarian dictatorship.

And the oligarchs NOTICED our VAST dismay at these elections and are going to do the old tactic they have ALWAYS done. It's called TWO STEPS FORWARD and ONE STEP BACK. Yeah, they attributed that to the Communists during the cold war. But the FASCISTS in the USA are the EXPERTS at it.

So NOW you will see the senate make a lot of noise about progress, renewable energy, democracy, blah, blah ,blah, blah and pass some token legislation like extending wind power subsidies (that are a PITTANCE) compared with fossil fuel subsides. All this will be TRUMPETED by the fascist press as "defeats" for "conservatives".

In fact, it is this "one step back" that will be followed by world class crushing of what is left of progressive laws in next year's session. But  for NOW, the job of the press is to PUT ALL OF US TO SLEEP, GET IT? You DON'T? Don't Worry, YOU WILL!

So ALL those nice articles (that have already started) about "not despairing" are not worth a TINKER'S DAMN!

The ONLY tool we have to fight this is to STOP consuming (all the way to the bare subsistence level for a decade or so) and STOP participating in the economy (NO STOCKS!) and ACCEPT being poverty stricken until it brings the ****ing corporations to their knees. NOTHING ELSE WILL WORK because we DO NOT HAVE DEMOCRACY in the USA.

And you know what? I doing think even 20% of Americans have the intestinal fortitude and integrity to go poor to take down the rich fascists in charge.

There are solutions and I have, in the links below, identified the problems and outlined the solution. But Americans are too materialistic to get it. We have become those donkey kids in the Pinocchio movie.

 So, YEAH, it's OVER. Have a Fine Fascist Day.


The Lady Justice Legal Scales mean the OPPOSITE of what you think they mean

Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. on what the LAW was ALL ABOUT

Fascist Big Ag uses Food Disparagement Law and
 the Patriot Act to threaten Truth tellers!

Golden Rule Government: A Lawful System Based on Caring instead of Conquest

by Agelbert on Sat Nov 08, 2014 at 06:08:47 PM EST

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* [new]  Amen, Agelbert! (3+ / 0-)

I've been on to the corporate takeover of democracy in America for about 15 years now.  The one thing that continues to elude me is the end game.  Big Ag had a definite end game; Earl Butz had a real vision for the transformation he wrought in American agriculture, but he wasn't out to destroy the country.  'Get Big or Get Out', his motto, was intended to eliminate small farmers and the inefficiencies that so much localized production brought to the table, but he wanted the displaced farmers to head into the factories.  It made sense in the post war world, and though he created a lot of ghost towns on the Plains and destroyed a way life for poor Southern farmers who'd managed to deliver their produce to a local cannery where they also picked up work for a few weeks at the end of the season, he met his primary objective - cheap food for American consumers.  Yes, food prices have been going up the past few years, but that's partly the toll of normal inflation, increased demand from Asians who have finally climbed out of desperate poverty, and (probably mostly) market speculation by WS firms freed from the constraint of having to have some kind of tangential relationship to the commodities they are dabbling in by the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000.  Repeal that Republican piece of **** legislation and food prices will plummet.

But the folks who make non necessities, which covers most things sold in every store in the first world, have set out to destroy their own customers.  Those billions of Asians who can now afford to eat on a regular basis are going to want safe, potable water before they want iPhones and they'll need plumbing and electricity before they can buy dishwashers.  Is it possible that the captains of industry are too ill informed to know that?  And if they destroy the first world by reducing us all to the level of those Asian factory workers, they really will be stuck with all the bills; they use roads and bridges, too.  Poor countries are not nice places to live, even for the very rich (they're quite dangerous, making most of them no go areas), so they'll make their own lives unpleasant while they make ours hell.  I just don't get why they can't seem to see that, to say nothing of the fact that there's a limit to how much you can do to an infinitely powerful entity like the US military, staffed entirely by members of the middle and working classes, before it turns and kills you.  An angry, beleaguered middle class started the French Revolution; we're getting close to part deux.     

by CatKinNY on Sat Nov 08, 2014 at 11:32:24 PM EST

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* [new]  I Have Said For Years (1+ / 0-)

That I will probably live to see the end of The United States as we know it.  Because you can only squeeze so much before those being squeezed finally push back.

The question is...just how far into the corner will people allow themselves to be backed....before they finally explode?

And that is what it will come to.  We will have another Civil War, but it won't be a nice, neat North versus South thing...it will be a hundred different factions all fighting each other for the rancid bits of what was once a great nation.

It will be hell on Earth.  I hope like hell it doesn't happen while I am still alive.  But I am betting it will.  Because things are getting worse and worse and worse for the middle and lower classes...and there is only so much deprivation that they will tolerate.

It would be ONE thing if the wealthy, too, were suffering.  They might be willing to endure more suffering if the wealthy were also suffering.  But they aren't.

The wealthy, in fact, are profiting - and doing so on the backs of everyone else.

The wealthy are self-aggrandizing and by doing so CREATING the misery for all below them.  And the people know it.

The pitchforks are coming.

Remember that song from Megadeth "Peace Sells?"

I find myself thinking about that song all the time now.  For those who don't know it, the lyrics follow:  (I am going to bold things that mirror my own feelings at the moment...

Peace Sells - by Megadeth

What do you mean, "I don't believe in God"?
 I talk to him every day.
 What do you mean, "I don't support your system"?
 I go to court when I have to.
 What do you mean, "I can't get to work on time"?
 I got nothing better to do
And, what do you mean, "I don't pay my bills"?
 Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?

 [Chorus:]
If there's a new way,
 I'll be the first in line.
 But, it better work this time.

What do you mean, "I hurt your feelings"?
 I didn't know you had any feelings.
 What do you mean, "I ain't kind"?
 I'm just not your kind.
 What do you mean, "I couldn't be the president
 Of the United States of America"?
 Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right?

 [Chorus: (repeat)]
If there's a new way
 I'll be the first in line,
 But, it better work this time.


Can you put a price on peace?
 Peace,
 Peace sells...,
 Peace,
 Peace sells...,
 Peace sells...,but who's buying?
 Peace sells...,but who's buying?
 Peace sells...,but who's buying?
 Peace sells...,but who's buying?


"Sometimes, you just have to be offensive to offensive people"  - Max Nofziger, former Austin City Council Member (This still qualifies as one of the best life-lessons I ever got)

by Kalisiin on Sun Nov 09, 2014 at 09:21:46 AM EST

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 * [new]  Great lyrics! (0+ / 0-)

Thank you for the song. It's a keeper!

by Agelbert on Sun Nov 09, 2014 at 02:22:01 PM EST


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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/07/1342926/-Senate-gears-up-for-packed-lame-duck-nbsp-session
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

 

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