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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #255 on: January 26, 2017, 07:35:01 pm »
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This is chilling — after ordering a funding and hiring freeze, Trump’s transition team has announced that all EPA scientists' work will face case-by-case vetting before it can be shared with the public.

This is in direct conflict with the agency policy, which prohibits leadership from “suppressing, altering, or otherwise impeding the timely release of scientific findings or conclusions.”

After Trump’s executive order approving the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines, we’re getting ready to organize major protests. Activists from around the country are already flooding Senate offices with calls and letters.

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« Reply #256 on: January 26, 2017, 08:02:45 pm »

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One day after Rex Tillerson visited the State Department, it was announced that four of the most senior civil service staff members had resigned.

NBC has confirmed that were asked to do so.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/26/1625630/-Trump-may-implode-faster-than-I-ever-imagined
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #257 on: January 26, 2017, 08:39:59 pm »
Carl Bernstein: Republicans are openly discussing Trump's  'emotional maturity, stability'

By Kerry Eleveld   

Thursday Jan 26, 2017 ·  1:50 PM EST  339   Comments

SNIPPET:

Veteran Beltway journalist Carl Bernstein told CNN Wednesday that discussions in Washington this week have been, "unlike anything I have seen in 50 years as a reporter."  Adam Withnall writes: 

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/26/1625550/-Carl-Bernstein-Republicans-are-openly-discussing-Trump-s-emotional-maturity-stability
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #258 on: January 26, 2017, 08:54:04 pm »

Backstabbing Republican introduces bill to give away public lands, end Forest Service
   

By Walter Einenkel   

Thursday Jan 26, 2017 ·  6:06 PM EST  55   Comments

Utah’s Republican email bulldog, backstabbing hypocrite, and man who clearly hates his daughter and wife Rep. Jason Chaffetz wants to remind you that he’s also got Koch brothers shill and betrayer of the public trust on his resume. And he wants to update that resume.

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“It’s time to get rid of the BLM and US Forest Service police. If there is a problem your local sheriff is the first and best line of defense. By restoring local control in law enforcement, we enable federal agencies and county sheriffs to each focus on their respective core missions. “The long overdue disposal of excess federal lands will free up resources for the federal government while providing much-needed opportunities for economic development in struggling rural communities.”


That’s from his website where he has released H.R. 621 and H.R. 622. H.R. 621 is a direction to the Secretary of the Interior to sell “certain Federal lands in Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, and Wyoming, previously identified as suitable for disposal, and for other purposes.” Just like the people who used to live on it!

H.R. 622 “To terminate the law enforcement functions of the Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management and to provide block grants to States for the enforcement of Federal law on Federal land under the jurisdiction of these agencies, and for other purposes.” Because when a Republican wants to privatize things, take away anything worthwhile that the federal government may provide to its citizens, block grants are so very perfect. 

Remember this: Cliven Bundy’s attorney was trying to get money out of the Koch brothers for a reason. These moves to give away public lands have gone back in Chaffetz’s Utah for a few years now, and they’re funded by American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and therefore the Koch brothers.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/26/1625696/-Backstabbing-Republican-introduces-bill-to-give-away-public-lands-end-Forest-Service
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #259 on: January 26, 2017, 09:22:29 pm »
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #260 on: January 27, 2017, 08:30:39 pm »
A Truly Wise Man Questions the Validity of Trump's World View
   

Sometimes, you read something that just nails it. For months, I’ve been trying to explain to those who would hear why I believe Donald Trump is the worst possible option as the leader of the free world. Why his entire entitled life is the wrong pathway to this position.

Well, a commenter on the New York Times article, The Politics of Cowardice nails it right on the head, breaking it down in a way that I wish I had.

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El Jamon     New York 7 hours ago

I am not a wealthy man. According to Donald Trump, I would be a loser. I changed diapers. I am an attentive, nurturing father. I built a modest business.

I am devoted to my spouse. We've been through thick and thin, better or worse and we still remain devoted and deeply in love.

Our home is modest. Our car is not luxurious. I served my country and paid for college myself, without ever taking a loan or dime from my parents.

And I am happy because I am grateful.

Every single day, I am grateful for this life, better or worse, rich or poor. I'm even grateful for the trials and struggles I've had. I'm grateful for the wisdom life's difficulties and set backs have provided.

The man in the gilded tower is not grateful. He is not wise. He is steeped in fears that, though we see the same television news stations, and read many of the same papers, I do not share.

Why is it that someone who had never wondered how he was going to pay for college, someone who (unlike myself) was backed by the generosity of the happenstance of wealthy parents, someone who cycles through luxury, why is he not grateful? Why is he so angry?



Look at this wealthy, powerful man's face. He is tormented, even twisted by his fears, and envy and pride, despite the evidence and, as he often brags, the rewards of his greed and gluttony.

Why do I, a poor man by comparison, live in a state of gratitude, while he is in service to his envy and wrath? I view Mr. Trump's fear, lust and sloth and I do not envy him.

If only the half of our voters had this insight and perspective we wouldn’t be stuck with a dark soul running our country into the abyss. 

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/27/1626134/-No-Better-Description-Of-This-Ungrateful-Angry-Monster-Has-Ever-Been-Written
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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #261 on: January 27, 2017, 08:49:21 pm »
At least 6 journalists are facing up to 10 years in prison for covering protests
   

By Walter Einenkel   

Thursday Jan 26, 2017 ·  1:08 PM EST

SNIPPET:

Those people are under no legal obligation to step in the way of idiots with rocks and pipes to stop them from beating up buildings. You want to use their footage to help identify “rioters,” that’s one thing. You want to make it illegal to show what’s happening in the streets, that’s fascism.


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/26/1625516/-At-least-6-journalists-are-facing-up-to-10-years-in-prison-for-covering-protests

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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #262 on: January 29, 2017, 09:24:42 pm »
K-Dog is now OFFICIALLY BANNED from this forum until further advised for peddling LIES, and double talking PROPAGANDA for Trumplethinskin Fascists. DON'T Try to post your cherry picking, reality downplaying CRAP here ANY MORE. Have a nice day, TRUMPER K-Dog!


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Re: Corruption in Government
« Reply #263 on: January 29, 2017, 09:53:55 pm »

Donald Trump’s Demolition Derby


Posted on Jan 28, 2017


By Bill Moyers / Moyers & Company

We’re a week into the Trump administration and it’s pretty obvious what he’s up to. First, Donald Trump is running a demolition derby: He wants to demolish everything he doesn’t like, and he doesn’t like a lot, especially when it comes to government.

Like one of those demolition drivers on a speedway, he keeps ramming his vehicle against all the others, especially government policies and programs and agencies that protect people who don’t have his wealth, power or privilege.

Affordable health care for working people? Smash it.

Consumer protection against predatory banks and lenders? Run over it.

Rules and regulations that rein in rapacious actors in the market? Knock ‘em down.

Fair pay for working people? Crush it. And on and on.


Trump came to Washington to tear the government down for parts, and as far as we can tell, he doesn’t seem to have anything at all in mind to replace it except turning back the clock to when business took what it wanted and left behind desperate workers, dirty water and polluted air.

In this demolition derby, Trump seems to have the wholehearted support of the Republican Party, which loathes government as much as it worships the market as god. Remember Thomas Frank’s book, The Wrecking Crew? Published in 2008, it remains one of the best political books of the past quarter-century. Frank took the measure of an unholy alliance: the century-old business crusade against government, the conservative ideology that looks on government as evil (except when it’s enriching its allies), and the Republican Party of George W. Bush and Karl Rove — the one that had just produced eight years of crony capitalism and private plunder.

The Wrecking Crew — and what an apt title it was — showed how federal agencies were doomed to failure by the incompetence and hostility of the Bush gang appointed to run them, the same model Trump is using now. Frank tracked how wholesale deregulation — on a scale Trump already is trying to reproduce — led to devastating results for everyday people, including the mortgage meltdown and the financial crash. Reading the book is like reading today’s news, as kleptomaniacs spread across Washington to funnel billions of dollars into the pockets of lobbyists and corporations.

That may include the pockets of Donald Trump’s own family. As Jonathan Chait wrote after the election in New York magazine, “(Trump’s) children have taken roles on the transition team. Ivanka attended official discussions with heads of state of Japan and Argentina. As president-elect, Trump himself met with Indian business partners to discuss business and lobbied a British politician to oppose offshore wind farms because one will block the view at one of his Scottish golf courses.”

Only a couple of days ago it was reported that the Trump organization would more than triple the number of Trump hotels in America. And why not? Its chief marketer works out of the Oval Office.

Jonathan Chait went on to say: “Trump’s brazen use of his office for personal enrichment signals something even more worrisome than four or more years of kleptocratic government. It reveals how willing the new administration is to obliterate governing norms and how little stands in his way.”

And oh yes, something else: David Sirota at International Business Times has just published a new report showing that the Trump administration appears to be quietly killing the federal government’s major ethics rule designed to prevent White House officials from enriching their former clients. Experts say a review of government documents shows that regulators appear to have abruptly stopped enforcing the rule, even though it remains the law of the land.

We were warned. Donald Trump himself told The New York Times, “The law is totally on my side, meaning, the president can’t have a conflict of interest.”    ;) Shades of Richard Nixon, who said, “When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal.” And who also announced, “I am not a crook.”  :evil4:


Which leads us to the second design now apparent in Trump’s strategy of deliberate chaos. He may have run a populist campaign, but now it appears he aims to substitute plutocracy for democracy.

I know plutocracy is not a commonly used word in America. But it’s a word that increasingly fits what’s happening here. Plutocracy means government by the wealthy, a ruling class of the rich and their retainers. If you don’t see plutocracy spreading across America, you haven’t been paying attention. Both parties have nurtured, tolerated and bowed to it. Now we’re reaching the pinnacle, as Trump’s own Cabinet is rich (no pun intended) in millionaires and billionaires. He is stacking the agencies and boards of government with the wealthy and friends of wealth so that the whole of the federal enterprise can be directed to rewarding those with deep pockets, the ones who provide the bags and bags of money that are dumped into our political process today.

Yes, both Democrats and Republicans have been guilty of groveling to the wealthy who fund them; it’s a staggering bipartisan scandal that threatens the country and was no small part of Trump’s success last November, even as ordinary people opened their windows and shouted, “We’re as mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore.” So now we have in power a man who represents the very worst of the plutocrats — one who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing. I shudder to think where this nightmare will end. Even if you voted for Donald Trump for a reason that truly is from your heart, I cannot believe you voted for this.

Tell me if I’m wrong. Tell me whose side are you really on? The people of America or the cynics and predators at the very top who would climb atop the ruins of the republic for a better view of the sunset?

Bill Moyers is the managing editor of Moyers & Company and BillMoyers.com.




http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/donald_trumps_demolition_derby_20170128

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« Reply #264 on: January 30, 2017, 08:44:00 pm »
American Psychosis
Posted on Jan 29, 2017

By Chris Hedges

Reality is under assault. Verbal confusion reigns. Truth and illusion have merged. Mental chaos makes it hard to fathom what is happening. We feel trapped in a hall of mirrors. Exposed lies are answered with other lies. The rational is countered with the irrational. Cognitive dissonance prevails. We endure a disquieting shame and even guilt. Tens of millions of Americans, especially women, undocumented workers, Muslims and African-Americans, suffer the acute anxiety of being pursued by a predator. All this is by design. Demagogues always infect the governed with their own psychosis.

“The comparison between totalitarianism and psychosis is not incidental,” the psychiatrist Joost A.M. Meerloo wrote in his book “The R A P E of the Mind: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing.” “Delusional thinking inevitably creeps into every form of tyranny and despotism. Unconscious backward forces come into action. Evil powers from the archaic past return. An automatic compulsion to go on to self-destruction develops, to justify one mistake with a new one; to enlarge and expand the vicious pathological circle becomes the dominating end of life. The frightened man, burdened by a culture he does not understand, retreats into the brute’s fantasy of limitless power in order to cover up the vacuum inside himself. This fantasy starts with the leaders and is later taken over by the masses they oppress.”

The lies fly out of the White House like flocks of pigeons: Donald Trump’s election victory was a landslide. He had the largest inauguration crowds in American history. Three million to 5 million undocumented immigrants voted illegally. Climate change is a hoax. Vaccines cause autism. Immigrants are carriers of “(t)remendous infectious disease.” The election was rigged—until it wasn’t. We don’t know “who really knocked down” the World Trade Center. Torture works. Mexico will pay for the wall. Conspiracy theories are fact. Scientific facts are conspiracies. America will be great again.

Our new president, a 70-year-old with orange-tinted skin and hair that Penn Jillette has likened to “cotton candy made of P I S S,” is, as Trump often reminds us, “very good looking.” He has almost no intellectual accomplishments—he knows little of history, politics, law, philosophy, art or governance—but insists “(m)y IQ is one of the highest—and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure, it’s not your fault.” And the mediocrities and half-wits he has installed in his Cabinet have “by far the highest IQ of any Cabinet ever assembled.”

It is an avalanche of absurdities. 

This mendacity would be easier to repulse if the problem was solely embodied in Trump. But even in the face of a rising despotism, the Democratic Party refuses to denounce the corporate forces that eviscerated our democracy and impoverished the country. The neoliberal Trump demonizes Muslims, undocumented workers and the media. The neoliberal Democratic Party demonizes Vladimir Putin and FBI Director James Comey. No one speaks about the destructive force of corporate power. The warring elites pit alternative facts against alternative facts. All engage in demagoguery. We will, I expect, be condemned to despotism by the venality of Trump and the cowardice and dishonesty of the liberal class.

Trump and those around him have a deep hatred for what they cannot understand. They silence anyone who thinks independently. They elevate pseudo-intellectuals who adhere to their bizarre script. They cannot cope with complexity, nuance or the unpredictable. Individual initiative is a mortal threat.

The order for some employees of several federal agencies, including the Environmental Protection Agency, the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s research service, the National Park Service and the Department of Health and Human Services, to restrict or cease communication with the press or members of Congress, along with the attempt to impose 10-year felony convictions on six reporters who covered the inauguration protests, signals the beginning of a campaign to marginalize reality and promote fantasy.

Facts depend solely on those who have the power to create them. The goal of the Trump administration is to create an artificial consistency that conforms to its warped perception of the world.

“Before they seize power and establish a world according to their doctrines, totalitarian movements conjure up a lying world of consistency which is more adequate to the needs of the human mind than reality itself; in which, through sheer imagination, uprooted masses can feel at home and are spared the never-ending shocks which real life and real experiences deal to human beings and their expectations,” Hannah Arendt wrote in “The Origins of Totalitarianism.” “The force possessed by totalitarian propaganda—before the movements have the power to drop iron curtains to prevent anyone’s disturbing, by the slightest reality, the gruesome quiet of an entirely imaginary world—lies in its ability to shut the masses off from the real world.”

Trump’s blinding narcissism was captured in his bizarre talk to the CIA on Jan. 21. “(T)hey say, is Donald Trump an intellectual?” he said. “Trust me, I’m, like, a smart persona.” 

“I have a running war with the media,” he added. “They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. And they sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community. And I just want to let you know, the reason you’re the number one stop [in the new presidency] is exactly the opposite—exactly. And they understand that, too.”
 
He launched into an attack on the media for not reporting that “a million, million and a half people” showed up for his inauguration. “They showed a field where there was practically nobody standing there,” he said about the media’s depiction of the inauguration crowd. “And they said, Donald Trump did not draw well. I said, it was almost raining, the rain should have scared them away, but God looked down and he said, we’re not going to let it rain on your speech.”

He has been on the cover of Time “like, 14 or 15 times,” Trump said in speaking of his criticism of the magazine because one of its reporters incorrectly wrote that the president had removed a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. from the Oval Office. “I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine. Like, if Tom Brady is on the cover, it’s one time, because he won the Super Bowl or something, right? I’ve been on it for 15 times this year. I don’t think that’s a record, Mike, that can ever be broken. Do you agree with that? What do you think?” (Editor’s note: Photographs or drawings of Trump were on the cover of Time 10 times in the last year and a half and once in 1989.)

Trump’s theatricality works. He forces the press and the public to repeat his lies, inadvertently giving them credibility. He is always moving. He is always on display. He has no fixed belief system. Trump, as he consolidates power, will adopt the ideology of the Christian right to fill his own ideological vacuum. The Christian right’s magical thinking will merge seamlessly with Trump’s magical thinking. Idiocy, self-delusion, megalomania, fantasy and government repression will come wrapped in images of the Christian cross and the American flag.

The corporate state, hostile or indifferent to the plight of the citizens, has no emotional pull among the public. It is often hated. Political candidates run not as politicians but as celebrities. Campaigns eschew issues to make people feel good about candidates and themselves. Ideas are irrelevant. Emotional euphoria is paramount. The voter is only a prop in the political theater. Politics is anti-politics. It is reality television. Trump proved better at this game than his opponents. It is a game in which fact and knowledge do not matter. Reality is what you create. We were conditioned for a Trump.

Meerloo wrote, “The demagogue relies for his effectiveness on the fact that people will take seriously the fantastic accusations he makes, will discuss the phony issues he raises as if they had reality, or will be thrown into such a state of panic by his accusations and charges that they will simply abdicate their right to think and verify for themselves.”

The lies create a climate in which everyone is assumed to be lying. The truth becomes suspect and obscured. Narratives begin to be believed not because they are true, or even sound true, but because they are emotionally appealing. The aim of systematic lying, as Arendt wrote, is the “transformation of human nature itself.” The lies eventually foster somnambulism among a population that surrenders to the magical thinking and ceases to care. It checks out. It becomes cynical. It only asks to be entertained and given a vent for its frustration and rage. Demagogues produce enemies the way a magician pulls rabbits out of a hat. They wage constant battles against nonexistent dangers, rapidly replacing one after the other to keep the rhetoric at a fever pitch.

“Practically speaking, the totalitarian ruler proceeds like a man who persistently insults another man until everybody knows that the latter is his enemy, so that he can, with some plausibility, go out and kill him in self-defense,” Arendt wrote. “This certainly is a little crude, but it works—as everybody will know who has ever watched how certain successful careerists eliminate competitors.”
We are entering a period of national psychological trauma. We are stalked by lunatics. We are, as Judith Herman writes about trauma victims in her book “Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence—From Domestic Abuse to Political Terror,” being “rendered helpless by overwhelming force.” This trauma, like all traumas, overwhelms “the ordinary systems of care that give people a sense of control, connection, and meaning.”

To recover our mental balance we must respond to Trump the way victims of trauma respond to abuse. We must build communities where we can find understanding and solidarity. We must allow ourselves to mourn. We must name the psychosis that afflicts us. We must carry out acts of civil disobedience and steadfast defiance to re-empower others and ourselves. We must fend off the madness and engage in dialogues based on truth, literacy, empathy and reality.

We must invest more time in activities such as finding solace in nature, or focusing on music, theater, literature, art and even worship—activities that hold the capacity for renewal and transcendence. This is the only way we will remain psychologically whole. Building an outer shell or attempting to hide will exacerbate our psychological distress and depression. We may not win, but we will have, if we create small, like-minded cells of defiance, the capacity not to go insane.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/page2/american_psychosis_20170129
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« Reply #265 on: January 31, 2017, 04:54:10 pm »
People For The American Way EXPOSES Sessions/Trump HYPOCRISY
Last night, Donald Trump fired acting Attorney General Sally Yates for refusing to defend his illegal executive order targeting Muslim immigrants and refugees.

When Yates, who was a holdover from the Obama administration, faced Senate confirmation for her job as deputy attorney general, Senator Jeff Sessions pressed her on whether she thought the attorney general or the deputy attorney general “has a responsibility to say no to the president if he asks for something that’s improper.” She correctly responded that “the attorney general or the deputy attorney general has an obligation to follow the law and the Constitution and to give their independent legal advice” -- which was the answer that Sessions was clearly looking for.

But from all reports, we have a pretty good idea that, if confirmed as attorney general, Sessions himself would not stand up to improper orders by President Trump. In fact, the Washington Post calls him the “intellectual godfather” of Trump’s anti-constitutional executive actions.

In light of Trump’s recent orders and his administration’s failure to adhere completely to court orders halting the implementation of those orders -- a constitutional crisis in itself -- there is no way that Sessions’ confirmation should be rammed through the Senate, as it appears Senate Republicans are still pushing to do.

Sessions’ committee vote is TODAY. He’s expected to make it out of committee on a party-line vote, thanks to a combination of committee Republicans’ extreme right-wing ideology and outright spinelessness. Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has rightly asked for a delay of the full Senate vote because of this past week’s events and the damning information that continues to come out about Sessions, his views, and his record.

Exactly one Democratic senator has said he would vote for Sessions -- West Virginia’s Joe Manchin. It’s not too late for him to change his vote or to join calls for a delayed vote. It’s also not too late for several Republican senators to grow a backbone, defend our core constitutional values, and join the opposition to Sessions.

ALL senators need to hear from their constituents NOW that they need to oppose Sessions and work their relationships with their colleagues in whatever ways they can to help grow the opposition against Sessions in the Senate. This Sessions nomination is a clear moral test for senators -- will they defend the Constitution? Or put party first and enable the bigoted and illegal agenda of the Trump administration? Which side of history will they be on?

Thanks for continuing to speak out and RESIST!

-- Ben Betz, Online Engagement Director

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« Reply #266 on: January 31, 2017, 09:29:49 pm »
January 31, 17
Amid Ongoing Protests, Trump Fires Acting Attorney General for Refusing to Enforce Immigrant Ban

 TRNN brings you the latest developments in the ongoing resistance against Trump's ban on Muslim refugees



http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=18250
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« Reply #267 on: January 31, 2017, 09:39:47 pm »
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