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The ONE TIME LBJ had it RIGHT!
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 08:37:23 pm »
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In our pursuit of growth and greed we have allowed poverty levels in America to creep back toward where they were before his War on Poverty reduced them appreciably. We have allowed inequality to soar to its highest levels ever.

We have allowed the destruction of beauty and nature. We have built an ugly America enslaved to the demands of commerce, where strip malls and billboards line our highways and blight our vistas, and everything we see is flooded with commercial appeals.

We have sacrificed the leisure Aristotle thought essential to the good life to pointless busyness, impatience, time stress, and boredom, perpetually seeking the newest gadget or virtual connection that might drive lack of meaning from our minds.

Moreover, the competition that greed entails has brought back with a vengeance the scourge of racism, hidden by code words until a redneck rancher like Cliven Bundy attempts to rehabilitate slavery, exposing still festering wounds.

By John de Graaf


That time Lyndon Johnson made a killer case against unbridled growth   


http://grist.org/politics/that-time-lyndon-johnson-made-a-killer-case-against-unbridled-growth/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ntCS7wDwiU&feature=player_embedded


Kalpona is a tireless advocate for workers in Walmart’s supply chain.   In 2011 and again in 2013, she traveled to Arkansas for the shareholder meeting to lift up the concerns of workers who sew for Walmart. Today she's at home in Dhaka, but is making sure to keep the pressure on Walmart!     


Show your solidarity with Walmart workers everywhere during our Twitter storm today!


Here are some sample tweets:   


Families of ppl killed sewing for Walmart are waiting for their fair share walmartdeathtraps.com #EndDeathtraps #walmarteconomy #WMTShares 

#RanaPlaza victims are still waiting for Walmart to #PayUp! Sign at walmartdeathtraps.com #walmartstrikers #walmarteconomy #WMTShares

From the US to Bangladesh, worker solidarity! http://www.laborrights.org/walmarteconomy #EndDeathtraps #walmartstrikers #walmarteconomy #WMTShares




To learn more about the Pay Up campaign, watch this video in which three Rana Plaza survivors speak out.

In solidarity,   
 Liana Foxvog
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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2014, 06:45:37 pm »
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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2014, 10:00:59 pm »
Citizens United, The Movie, is NOW in full production, taking on the issues of corporate personhood, money as speech , and more!

https://d2pq0u4uni88oo.cloudfront.net/projects/1262645/video-430232-h264_high.mp4

We just posted another video update above, showing off Scene 2 of the CEO of Vanguard Aerospace (fictitious 2nd largest military defense contractor) yucking it up with his PR consultant about their two faced new ad coming on like their corporation is "the People."

For the purpose of this clip we pick up the end of our founding fathers scene, and their concerns about corporations acquiring too much unchecked political power, and juxtapose that with the latest footage shot, to make a powerful point about how corporations have commandeered the concept of the People as their exclusive domain.

And by leading into the faux TV spot with the contempt these executives have for their own advertising, we are hoping that people will do more questioning of ads of this kind when they see them in the regular media. Indeed, our faux ad is so faithful to the form of these kinds of things, one person actually asked us why we were showing an ad for a real defense contractor.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849636481/citizens-united-the-movie-day-4-shoot

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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2014, 09:53:07 pm »
Dr. Vandana Shiva TAKES SPECTER'S PRO-GMO HIT PIECE APART!   

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Invoking imagery of a quaint India reveals an ethnographic prejudice that fits right into the strategy of seemingly ‘helping’ India while extracting, like colonizers, capital and natural resources from the colonies. In ways other than the obvious, Specter sounds like an Angrez Sahib (English Sahib) describing the ‘natives’ in 1943, when he notes


“skin the color of burnt molasses and the texture of a well- worn saddle”


One can only hope that he may overcome his disdain of non-white, non-industrial populations, Indian farmers, and farmers in general, because he seems to view them as inferior and incapable of feeding themselves and their growing population even though the Food and Agriculture Organization reports that 70 percent of global food comes from small farms. 


Seeds of Truth: A Response to Michael Specter’s Article in The New Yorker

Dr. Vandana Shiva   

http://ecowatch.com/2014/08/29/vandana-shiva-michael-specter-the-new-yorker/

Agelbert Comment: Specter wrote a hit piece with some "polish" in the service of Profit over Planet, PERIOD.

I totally disagreed with his article and said so at the time.

Specter's "technique" is really old hat arrogant racist imperialism disguised as "erudite analysis" and "constructive" criticism.


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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2014, 02:35:37 pm »
Fake Meat and Other Tainted Food in China Exposed on ‘Wikipedia’ Website

Anastasia Pantsios | September 12, 2014 12:03 pm | Comments

From time to time there’s a scare in the U.S. about food imported from China, with the pet food incident that sickened and killed thousands of animals the best known.

Wu Heng,   a graduate student from Shanghai, launched a website to aggregate and disseminate information about tainted food in China.

Some Chinese aren’t any happier about questionable food produced in their country than Americans are, especially after the 2008 adulterated milk scandal that killed six infants and hospitalized tens of thousands.

That scandal attracted the interest of Wu Heng, a graduate student from Shanghai. As more incidents of tainted food were publicized, it eventually led him to start a website, launched in May 2012, to aggregate and disseminate information about tainted food. The site, Throwing It Out the Window, or Zhi Chu Chuang Wai in Chinese, takes its name from a story about President Theodore Roosevelt throwing a sausage out the window after reading Upton Sinclair’s 1906 book The Jungle about the horrors of the meat-packing industry.

The website details such appetite-killing incidents as pork colored with chemicals to look like beef, restaurants using cooking oil recovered from dumpsters, “lamb” that turned out to be rat, and expired meat or meat from already-dead animals being mixed with good meat.

Wu has now turned those posts into a newly published book, also called Throwing It Out the Window   ;D. It collects some of the information from his site and provides advice on how to avoid the worst of the tainted food, although he says it’s virtually impossible to avoid it entirely:P

Wu describes the site as a “Wikipedia,” but it’s basically a database of news articles and government press releases about food safety incidents, warnings, and recalls. Prior to launching the site, he and about three dozen other students analyzed and categorized more than 17,000 news reports. Categories included fake food, expired food, food containing potentially unsafe additives, food containing foreign matter, problem packaging, food sold without a license, substandard food, food that has not passed quarantine inspection and unhygienic food.

Full article at link below:


http://ecowatch.com/2014/09/12/wu-heng-china-food-website/
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Does evil exist?
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2014, 07:06:26 pm »
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Does evil exist?

 The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

 "God created everything? The professor asked.

 "Yes sir", the student replied.

 The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

 Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?"

 "Of course", replied the professor.

 The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

 "What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.

 The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

 The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

 The professor responded, "Of course it does."

 The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

 Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

 Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

 To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

 The professor sat down.

 The young man's name — Albert Einstein.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp#g2jeTWb5lsy4PXl1.99 The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

 "God created everything? The professor asked.

 "Yes sir", the student replied.

 The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

 Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?"

 "Of course", replied the professor.

 The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

 "What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.

 The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

 The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

 The professor responded, "Of course it does."

 The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

 To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

 The professor sat down.    ;D


 The young man's name — Albert Einstein.



Agelbert NOTE: Apparently Einstein, reputed to have said the above, DID NOT say the above. SAY WHAT!!?

 ;D I still think it is valid but I wish to give you worthies the REST OF THE STORY. It's an urban legend with a few interesting and fascinating variations. ;D


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Origins:   For those looking for a quick answer to the question of whether this item is literally true, we'll state up front that it is not. Nothing remotely like the account related above appears in any biography or article about Albert Einstein, nor is the account congruent with that scientist's expressed views on the subject of religion (in which he generally described himself as an "agnostic" or a "religious nonbeliever"). Einstein's name has simply been inserted into an anecdote created long after his death in order to provide the reading audience with a recognizable figure and thus lend the tale an air of verisimilitude

 As to what this account says from a standpoint of faith, one of the most troubling conundrums is the question of how evil and suffering can survive in a universe created and managed by a loving supreme being. Postulated explanations of this paradox are known as theodicies, and such answers have been for centuries handed out by members of many belief systems when challenged to provide logical answers to the question of how it is possible that a just and moral God can co-exist with evil. Among these answers are:

• Free Will: God gave his children the right to make up their own minds as to who they would be, and some chose to be rotten.

• Imperfect Supreme Being: God struggles valiantly to cope with a universe filled with random events (chaos), but as powerful as he is, he can't undo every awful thing the moment it happens.

• The Devil: An evil entity preys upon the weak of will, winning many of the flawed to his side where they are first welcomed, then sent out to do his bidding. While God is ultimately fated to win the final battle against this adversary, until that time the entity's minions wreak havoc.

• Incomprehensibility: "Good" and "evil" are human constructs born of Mankind's limited understanding of the universe. Were people capable of seeing things through God's eyes, they would grasp the morality and rightness of all that now leaves them aghast in horror and riddled with unease at its seeming unfairness.

The Internet forward quoted above draws upon yet another possible explanation: that evil is the absence of God, in the same way that cold is the absence of heat, and dark is the absence of light. This argument has been around for a long time, as has the legend about the pious student using it to squelch an atheist professor.

 The name of Einstein gets used in legends whose plots call for a smart person, one whom the audience will immediately recognize as such (i.e., modern tellings of an ancient legend about a learned rabbi who switches places with his servant feature Albert Einstein in the role of esteemed scholar). This venerated cultural icon has, at least in the world of contemporary lore, become a stock character to be tossed into the fray wherever the script calls for a genius.

 Likewise, "the atheist professor" is a figure common to a number of urban legends and anecdotes of the faithful: he gets flung into the mix where there's a need for someone to play the role of Science Vanquished in Science-versus-Religion tales. But he is not inserted merely to serve as an icon of learning to be humbled in tales that aim to teach that faith is of greater value than provable knowledge; he is also woven into these sorts of stories for his lack of belief. Just as the villain in oldtime melodramas  ::) had to have a waxed moustache, a black cape, and an evil laugh, so too must the bullying professor of such stories be an atheist: it would not be enough for him to be merely an insufferable, over-educated git arrogantly attempting to stretch the minds of his students by having them question something deeply believed. No, he must instead be someone who rejects the existence of God, an assignment of role that re-positions what might otherwise have been a bloodless debate about philosophy as an epic battle between two champions of faith and denial and sets up the action to unfold as one putting the boots to the other. 

 "The atheist professor" plays his expected role of getting his pants kicked in the Dropped Chalk tale, where he (once again) challenges his browbeaten students on the topic of God's existence. He is also pivotal to these following tales, which are yet other variations on the same theme:
A college class was led by an atheist professor, and every day he'd stand in front of his class and say, "Have you ever seen God?" to which nobody would answer. Then he'd ask, "Have you ever felt God?" and nobody would answer. Finally he'd ask, "Have you ever heard God?" and, like the other times, nobody would answer. He then would say, "It is obvious that there is no God."

 One day a Christian student had been having an extremely bad day; her car broke down, her mother was sick, her boyfriend was out of town, and she'd gotten a bad grade on one of her exams. She had been fed up with her professor's little act every morning, so she decided to do something about it.

 While the professor stood up at the beginning of class and did his thing, the student had an idea. She got up and said, "Professor, would you mind if I said something?" He said, "Of course not. This is an expressive classroom, and I think it would be fine if you spoke your mind."

 The girl said to the class, "Have you ever seen our professor's brain?" and nobody answered. Then she asked, "Have you ever felt our professor's brain?" and nobody answered. Finally she asked, "Have you ever heard our professor's brain?" and, like the other times, nobody answered.

 She then said, "It is quite obvious that our professor has no brain."
 
 An atheist professor was teaching a college class and he told the class that he was going to prove that there is no God.

 He said, "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you 15 minutes!"

 Ten minutes went by.

 The professor kept taunting God, saying, "Here I am, God. I'm still waiting."

 He got down to the last couple of minutes and a Marine just released from active duty, and newly registered in the class, walked up to the professor, hit him full force in the face, and sent him flying from his platform.

 The professor struggled up, obviously shaken and yelled, "What's the matter with you? Why did you do that?"

 The Marine replied, "God was busy, so He sent me."
   

 Navy SEALs are always taught

 1) Keep your priorities in order and
 2) Know when to act without hesitation.

 A Navy SEAL was attending some college courses between assignments. He had completed missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. One of the courses had a professor who was an avowed atheist and a member of the ACLU. One day he shocked the class when he came in, looked to the ceiling, and flatly stated, "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes."

 The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am God. I'm still waiting."

 It got down to the last couple of minutes when the SEAL got out of his chair, went up to the professor, and cold-c o c k e d him; knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold. The SEAL went back to his seat and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat there looking on in silence.

 The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the SEAL and asked, "What the hell is the matter with you? Why did you do that?"

 The SEAL calmly replied, "God was too busy today protecting America's soldiers who are protecting your right to say stupid thiings and act like an i d i o t. So He sent me."  The key to understanding the allure of these tales lies in this one line from the "evil is the absence of God" story:
The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.
 Faith can't be proved (or disproved); if such validations were possible, those concepts would stop being matters of faith and start being matters of fact. Unfortunately, this leaves those who are convinced of the existence of God without an incontrovertible, irrefutable answer to those who challenge them to provide evidence of the veracity of their
   
 belief systems' tenets, or to demonstrate beyond any shadow of doubt that their inner direction is the right one to those who insist on independently verifiable proof of that which can't be proved.

 That God permits evil to exist (and some would say to thrive) is taken by non-believers as an inarguable sign that there is no supreme being. This puzzle is pointed to by them as the unanswerable fallacy that proves the negative: they reckon that a loving, all-powerful God would have stamped out evil, ergo He doesn't exist, or He is not all-powerful, or He is not all that enamored of His children. As such, this paradox can be disquieting to those who do believe: not only do they themselves have to wrestle with the seeming disconnect, they are left unable to convincingly answer their critics when this topic comes up. They find themselves similarly hamstrung when pressed to prove the existence of God.

 Stories about atheist professors being bested by true believers who did have answers at the ready are both ventings of this frustration and expressions of delight in finally seeming to have been armed with deft responses to fling back. These are tales of affirmation, modern-day parables of trials overcome and fierce adversaries bested by those who held fast to what they believed in, even in the face of ridicule rained down by authority figures. Like parables, they are meant to inspire similar resolve in those with whom they are shared: should those members of the flock ever find themselves in like circumstances, they should feel moved to emulate the brave students of legend who stood up to the atheist professors.

 Barbara "lamb nanny and the professor" Mikkelson

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For those who think atheist professors don't deliberately set out to mock students who believe in God, you are WOEFULLY mistaken. I am a VETERAN of LENGTHY back and forth with this type of debate in college biology (hi Darwin!) classrooms (Where PHILOSOPHY is NOT SUPPOSED to be PUSHED by a PROF!).

See this SELF SERVING QUOTE from the above narrative casting ATHEIST PROFS incorrectly but cleverly as VICTIMS of irrationality:
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it would not be enough for him to be merely an insufferable, over-educated git arrogantly attempting to stretch the minds of his students by having them question something deeply believed.

No, he must instead be someone who rejects the existence of God, an assignment of role that re-positions what might otherwise have been a bloodless debate about philosophy as an epic battle between two champions of faith and denial and sets up the action to unfold as one putting the boots to the other.
 

Sorry (NOT!  ;D) to rain on the atheist parade, but that is EXACTLY what the prof is doing to try to UNDERMINE belief in God in order to CONVERT his students to the RELIGION of "modern" science ( DARWIN's Atheism based Theory of Evolution!  ).  
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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2014, 07:25:38 pm »
Surly,
I totally disagree that this quote below is anything but an arrogant bit of pro-atheist puffery disguised as measured, objective prudent logic:
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The name of Einstein gets used in legends whose plots call for a smart person, one whom the audience will immediately recognize as such (i.e., modern tellings of an ancient legend about a learned rabbi who switches places with his servant feature Albert Einstein in the role of esteemed scholar). This venerated cultural icon has, at least in the world of contemporary lore, become a stock character to be tossed into the fray wherever the script calls for a genius.

 Likewise, "the atheist professor" is a figure common to a number of urban legends and anecdotes of the faithful: he gets flung into the mix where there's a need for someone to play the role of Science Vanquished in Science-versus-Religion tales. But he is not inserted merely to serve as an icon of learning to be humbled in tales that aim to teach that faith is of greater value than provable knowledge; he is also woven into these sorts of stories for his lack of belief. Just as the villain in oldtime melodramas  ::) had to have a waxed moustache, a black cape, and an evil laugh, so too must the bullying professor of such stories be an atheist: it would not be enough for him to be merely an insufferable, over-educated git arrogantly attempting to stretch the minds of his students by having them question something deeply believed. No, he must instead be someone who rejects the existence of God, an assignment of role that re-positions what might otherwise have been a bloodless debate about philosophy as an epic battle between two champions of faith and denial and sets up the action to unfold as one putting the boots to the other. 

 "The atheist professor" plays his expected role of getting his pants kicked in the Dropped Chalk tale, where he (once again) challenges his browbeaten students on the topic of God's existence.

If you CANNOT see the clever RIDICULE aimed at the Theist in defense of the Atheist, you are the one not being objective.

Consider what an objective person (someone who logically and reasonably questions the appeal to authority that doesn't know Einstein from Adam) does when he reads the name Albert Einstein. He thinks, well, that dude must have been a famous person known for his intelligence and his name could have been placed there as an appeal to authority (a fallacious logic debating technique).

So, he looks up EINSTEIN QUOTES to see where Einstein was coming from WITHOUT taking Snopes' OBVIOUSLY pro-atheist SPIN as valid regardless of whether Einstein said the quote or not.

It is absolutely necessary at this point in analysis to DIVORCE the quote validity from the appeal to authority. The QUOTE is to be studied as to its merits, not on whether Einstein, said it, but whether it is a valid statement.

Nevertheless, one must accept that the appeal to authority, if Einstein DID NOT say it, is fallacious logic and taints the statement's integrity.

But the Snopes' article attempts to add two and two and get FIVE!  :evil4: :emthdown: Because the appeal to authority CANNOT BE PROVEN, therefore the QUOTE is not to be taken seriously. BALONEY.

Einstein quotes:
1. I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.

2.Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

3.My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

4.The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.

5.Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

6.The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

7.There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance.

8.The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.

9.The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is the source of all true art and science.

10.We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.

11.Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.

12.When the solution is simple, God is answering.

13.God does not play dice with the universe.

14.God is subtle but he is not malicious.

15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

16.Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

17.The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow creatures as meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.

18.Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

19.Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.

20.The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books—-a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.

21.The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.

22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism.

23.The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men.

24.The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.

25.True religion is real living; living with all one’s soul, with all one’s goodness and righteousness.

26.Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in the social life of man.


http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/einstein/

Could Eintein have made the QUOTE that Snopes says Einstein never made? From the above study of Einstein's ACTUAL QUOTES, I say, CERTAINLY (See quote number 17 and 11  = Atheist Professor. But there are LOTS more!)!
 
And for the Cherry Pickers that will jump on quote number 4 with both feet  :icon_mrgreen:, I suggest you balance that LOGICALLY and REASONABLY with the OTHER 25 QUOTES before inserting your evolutionary foot in your mouth. "Evolution" to a veggie diet is NOT what Darwin had in mind. LOL! So be REAL CAREFUL when you talk about Einstein and the word "evolution". :P

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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2014, 11:21:19 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUwq4chgcY&feature=player_embedded

Let's Not Inadvertently Support GMO Companies



 We give certain products the benefit of the doubt. A product like Tom's Toothpaste seems like it comes from a smaller, well intentioned company that is trying to offer us superior, healthier products. The package says it's made by "Tom's Of Maine"

 Lets look a bit closer. Tom's Of Maine is owned by Colgate. Odwalla juice is owned by Coca Cola...and Kashi 7 Grain Cereal is owned by Kellog's.  :P

 This video does some of our homework for us and offers an amusing presentation. Let's pick up where this leaves off, by paying attention and educating ourselves so we can make sure our dollars go only to the companies we want to give our money to.

 --Bibi Farber

- See more at: http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/food-choices/brands-you-didnt-know-were-owned-by-giant-corporations.html#sthash.MUEVfJ3K.dpuf
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Fossil Fuel Profit over Homo SAPS with TOXIC FOOD DYES!
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2014, 12:44:19 am »
Fossil Fuel Profit over Homo SAPS with TOXIC FOOD DYES!

Toxicology of food dyes.  :o   

Kobylewski S1, Jacobson MF.

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BACKGROUND:


Food dyes, synthesized originally from coal tar and now petroleum color], have long been controversial because of safety concerns. Many dyes have been banned because of their adverse effects on laboratory animals or inadequate testing.


CONCLUSIONS:


This review finds that all of the nine currently US-approved dyes raise health concerns of varying degrees.  :o  :P
Red 3 causes cancer in animals, and there is evidence that several other dyes also are carcinogenic.

Three dyes (Red 40, Yellow 5, and Yellow 6) have been found to be contaminated with benzidine or other carcinogens.

At least four dyes (Blue 1, Red 40, Yellow 5, and Yellow 6) cause hypersensitivity reactions. Numerous microbiological and rodent studies of Yellow 5 were positive for genotoxicity.

Toxicity tests on two dyes (Citrus Red 2 and Orange B) also suggest safety concerns, but Citrus Red 2 is used at low levels and only on some Florida oranges and Orange B has not been used for several years.

The inadequacy of much of the testing and the evidence for carcinogenicity, genotoxicity, and hypersensitivity, coupled with the fact that dyes do not improve the safety or nutritional quality of foods, indicates that all of the currently used dyes should be removed from the food supply and replaced, if at all, by safer colorings.

It is recommended that regulatory authorities require better and independent toxicity testing, exercise greater caution regarding continued approval of these dyes, and in the future approve only well-tested, safe dyes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23026007

Agelbert NOTE: Always, remember, the PETROLEUM industry is ONLY supplying a DEMAND from us piggies... As you can see above, they have "fastidiously" tested all their products to insure SAFE consumption for us. And anyway, if they've broken the law, don't worry. Eat your pretty colored food and consult our justice system for a "proper" remedy if an isolated incident occurs. You only need about $4,000,000 for a proof of human toxicity test that the FDA will back in court room. And , of course, if you ain't dade (the big cucks are wrongful death, don'tcha know?), don't expect to much of an "award" (Gee, I used to think it was compensation or a damages remedy. My how times change  :icon_mrgreen:).  It's always better to have your day (?)  ;)  in court than tar and feather fossil fuelers poisoning you and your children for profit! Lawyers ($$$,$$$.00  ;D) agree!  Gott mit uns! Have a nice day. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEAGdwHXfLQ&feature=player_embedded

From the makers of the much-praised Quants: the Alchemists of Wall Street and Money & Speed: Inside the Black Box. Now the long-awaited final episode of a trilogy in search of the winners and losers of the tech revolution on Wall Street. Could mankind lose control of this increasingly complex system?

http://tegenlicht.vpro.nl/backlight/wall-street-code.html
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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2014, 07:54:31 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agwigv-lExM&feature=player_embedded
The Banks Brought down the economy with their Criminal Mens rea Modus Operandi

Years later they pay a fine which is MUCH less than what they were BAILED OUT with at NEGATIVE interest (i.e. Bernake GIVE AWAYS funded by we-the-people  >:(). We-the-people PAY 24/7 with increased inflation, lack of jobs and a destroyed economy while NOBODY goes to jail that committed this MASSIVE amount of fraudulent transactions. So it goes.

Democracy, my ASS!   

The corporate (greed is good and so is profit over planet) 'business' model is suicidally psychopathic yet most people think that is the proper and prudent way to be (The Conquest Mindset instead of a Caring Mindset). The BRAZEN and corrupt reality that big money and power CRIME PAYS in the USA, as you observed in the above video, will destroy this country if we don't DEMAND prison for these criminals AND damages awards for we-the-people in the form of direct checks to American citizens!

We have a grave situation where our environment AND OUR DEMOCRACY have both been degraded to a mere caricature (for propaganda purposes - see lipstick on a predator pig) to keep we-the-people in our state of ignorance about our 24/7 fascist fleecing.

Greed is bad. It's a cancer on society and the biosphere.

We either change the way we deal with each other and the other life forms that inhabit this planet in order to survive and thrive or we continue our suicidal and psychopathic path of conscience free conquest and mendacious accounting tricks criminally contrived to convince logic challenged economists that "creative destruction" is not an oxymoron.

Don't expect help from our Corrupt and irreparable Court System; it's bought and paid for by the 'greed is good' corporate+government (see the definition of Fascism) elite.

You don't believe me? You think this is hysterical hyperbole?

Read on:

The Corporate Business Model is Psychopathic (ONE MINUTE):
http://viewrz.com/video/the-corporate-business-model-is-psychopathic

All about Fracking LEGAL chemical POISONS (3 minutes 31 seconds):
http://viewrz.com/video/all-about-fracking-legal-chemical-poisons-1

Fossil Fuel Fascism in Action (3 minute lesson on our Orwellian world):
http://viewrz.com/video/fossil-fuel-fascism-in-action

Fossil Fuel Fascist Jolly Roger "business" model (8 minutes):
http://viewrz.com/video/fossil-fuel-fascist-jolly-roger-business-model

Fossil fuel Government 2 minute Video Clip from "The Age of Stupid" Video:
http://viewrz.com/video/fossil-fuel-government

FDR on Trickle Down "Economics"
http://viewrz.com/video/fdr-on-trickle-down-economics

Here's a modern example of what happens when you trust the Court System to do what they are supposed to. There is NO Ubi Jus, Ibi Remedium any more in the USA when it comes to environmental damage that brings sickness and death to people and other life forms.

The Exxon Valdez PITTANCE of a settlement: PROOF we have a Fascist Fossil Fuel Government AND the irreparably DYSFUNCTIONAL Court System is its HANDMAIDEN
http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/fossil-fuel-folly/fossil-fuels-degraded-democracy-and-profit-over-planet-pollution/msg2122/#msg2122

How about Corporate control of what you eat by manipulation of our "LAWS"? See Big Ag Fascsit Heaven below:
Fascist Big Ag uses Food Disparagement Law and the Patriot Act to threaten Truth tellers!
http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/renewables/sustainable-food-production/msg2033/#msg2033

Read what this giant polluter and OWNER of most of the fracking machinery says about how to 'handle' environmental legislation:

Schlumberger N.V. (SLB): The BIG OIL Planet Polluter you never heard of
http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/fossil-fuel-folly/fossil-fuel-propaganda-modus-operandi/msg2088/#msg2088

Yes, the plutocratic marriage of corporate and government power over the Court System has been there for quite some time. But now our survival is threatened by this unsustainable paradigm of the worship of Conquest:

Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. on what the LAW is ALL ABOUT
http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/who-can-you-trust/corruption-in-government/msg2045/#msg2045


In any LAW dictionary you will learn that the term "Legal" is the antithesis of the term "Equitable". Look it up if you do not believe me.

 The Lady Justice Legal Scales mean the OPPOSITE of what you think they mean
http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/who-can-you-trust/corruption-in-government/msg2041/#msg2041

Don't count on our Court System to defend Americans from Fascism - Here's why the solution to Corporate Profit over Planet is EX CURIA
http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/who-can-you-trust/corruption-in-government/msg2019/#msg2019

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Re: Corporate Mendacity and Duplicity
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2014, 08:14:41 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtSMLgaW6U&feature=player_embedded
Yellen (Federal Reserve elite CROOK) gets a tongue lashing.  ;D
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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2014, 07:22:04 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfRWj3MKqFk&feature=player_embedded
Another reason to believe human ingenuity is used more for cheating than for honest effort.  :emthdown:



   




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