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Pat Robertson is "appalled" by Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria: "The President of the United States is in great danger of losing the mandate of Heaven if he permits this to happen."


Agelbert NOTE: "Mandate of Heaven" is Pseudo-Christian "Fundamentalist" CODE SPEECH for: You keep worshipping our God Mammon through war profiteering murder and mayhem or you will be demonified PRONTO.

Like I said before, the End Times Biblical Teaching is just the CANARD CON that these pseudo-Christian bastards will drop when their M.I.C. stock porfolios are threatened. For these "Fundamentalist Pastors" , it has ALWAYS been about DA MONEY.


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Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2019, 12:26:53 pm »
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U.S.'s Biggest 😈 Christian Charity 😉  Reportedly Channeled $56.1 Million To Purported  ☠️ Hate Groups
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The nation's eighth-largest nonprofit donated $56.1 million to a series of organizations identified as hate groups from 2015 to 2017, according to a report from Sludge.

National Christian Foundation, which identifies itself as the largest Christian grant maker and one of the largest donor-advised funds in the nation, has served as a vehicle for individuals trying to anonymously send money.

Donor-advised funds allow individuals sending the tax deductible contributions to remain anonymous from the IRS and instruct where they want the payments to be sent. For those donating via NCF, this meant sending money to 23 organizations that the Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled hate groups. Most of the hate organizations that received money from the NCF opposed LGBT rights. The report also found that the NCF donated to anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant organizations.

Organizations receiving the most funds from NCF included the Alliance Defending Freedom, which has advocated for sterilizing transgender individuals, and the Family Research Council, which has advocated conversion therapy. Members of the Family Research Council including Tony Perkins, the organization's president, have sought to link pedophilia and homosexuality.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/biggest-christian-charity-funding-hate-groups-1370055

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142378382

Agelbert NOTE: The 🦕🦖 Koch Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Fascist family of donor front groups are in this hate funding operation by these "Christians" (SEE: Orwell) up to their corrupt eyeballs.

The National Christian Foundation is more appropriately titiled the National Golden Calf Foundation.

This is still another reason to bankrupt polluters; they pollute our minds as well as the planet with their Government Welfare Queen "subsidy" HANDOUTS. NONE of these hate groups would be able to DO what they DO without profit over people and planet fossil fuel money!




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« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2019, 10:58:36 pm »
Agelbert CELEBRATION: The Christian dam resisting Trump impeachment just BROKE!




By Neil Steinberg  Oct 10, 2019, 12:56pm CDT

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The Forgotten Christian Terror Cult That Presaged Trump’s Memes
How a right-wing conspiracy blossomed in the pre-internet age




Last Christmas, I found myself alone, stoned, and poolside at the Trump National Doral Miami wearing a “Fake News” T-shirt under a fluffy white Trump robe. Before the noon checkout, I’d gone to catch some rays and take a video of myself reading a passage about Mike Flynn from a galley of my book. 

I’d done a lot of reporting on Flynn’s career. In 2012, then a lieutenant general, Flynn was appointed by President Obama to run the Defense Intelligence Agency, but he was unceremoniously fired after two years of tumult and politicking in uniform. He would go on to secretly lobby for Turkey and spout conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton’s health, as well as an imagined pedophilia ring in a Washington pizza parlor. This post-Army fall was fascinating to me because Flynn was a true military believer, a throwback to another era, Colonel Kurtz come home. People I respected in the Army respected him. My CIA friends did not seem to share this respect. He thought differently than most Army general officers I knew. 

Flynn’s tenure in the Trump administration was even briefer: He was ousted as national security advisor after just 24 days over pre-election Russia contacts and his foreign lobbying, which also led him to plead guilty to a federal count of lying to investigators. Since then, the main public support he’d garnered was from his family and the QAnon people, who exist in that liminal internet space called the chans and believe a “storm” is coming in which President Trump will bust an international pedophilia ring of Democrats, globalists, and satanists. In these apocalyptic fantasies, Flynn was a good Christian warrior working to bring the deep state cabal down from inside: Some even theorized that Flynn was Q, the anonymous author of the online posts that delineated this alleged global conspiracy. As I pondered the man’s legacy that holiday morning, a single lizard emerged from a crack in the wall, slinked to the hot tub, and swam three laps. 

For me, that was a clear sign it was time to go. —the ex-spy I’d spent two consecutive Christmases with, staying in properties owned by the president—and I collected our rental, a red convertible Camaro, from the Venezuelan valet and rolled out, bound for South Beach. Just outside the property a woman stood, wearing a yellow reflective vest, holding a sign that said “Who is Q/I know/Do you?” As we drove past, I shouted the initials “WWG1WGA”—short for ”Where we go one we go all,” a Q tagline—from the convertible. She looked confused by the reference. I wondered who was paying her to stand there and hold the sign.

Those who talk don’t know. Those who know don’t talk. The information wars continue apace. Earlier this month, the Trump Doral hosted the “American Priority Conference.” One panel called “Is America in a Great Awakening?” seemed like a dog-whistle to followers of what I’ve come to think of as “the QAnon psychological operation.” Before the shitshow in Syria and Trump’s grade-school notes to foreign leaders and impeachment intrigues took over the conversation, Twitter was abuzz over a snuff video shown in a side room of the Doral conference: It featured the president entering a “Church of Fake News” to beat, shoot, and stab Trump’s most-hated media members to death.

That Christmas night, at a South Beach hotel, Doug and I watched cable news. Trump had made a surprise visit to Iraq. In a commercial break between the talking heads, The 700 Club advertised a prayer line. I dialed the number. After several minutes of listening to recordings of Pat Robertson and his son asking for money, I was connected with a Filipino-accented 700 Club prayer representative. She asked for my prayer request. I thought I knew the men who needed the most prayers: the brave Navy SEALs protecting Trump in Iraq right now. The prayer she said for them was worth the wait, fierce and fiery, calling doom on the enemies of God, the president, and the SEALs. America had entered a golden age of magical thinking. It was no longer just the fringe awaiting apocalyptic scenarios. An entire political entertainment system that feasted on the next day’s hope for a deus ex machina now did eschatology as well. Not long after, I’d discover the story of The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, a 1980s Christian terrorist cult, and realize they had anticipated this very moment. 


Say what you will about doomsday cults; zealots know how to pick killer real estate. The self-castrating Heaven’s Gate members who wore Nikes to commit suicide and travel to a spaceship behind the Hale Bopp comet did so from a California mansion near Encinitas. Well before Joanna and Chip Gaines made Waco, Texas, into a mecca of Shiplap and rusted tin, David Koresh’s Branch Davidians built and lost their own fixer-upper cult compound—Mount Carmel—just outside of town. The Manson family lived for a time at the Spahn Ranch, a Southern California stand-in landscape for western films and television shows. 

These were my thoughts last month, driving northeast from my home in Fayetteville, Arkansas, to check an old cult compound. 

In the late 1970s, a group un-ironically calling itself the CSA—which was easier to embroider on hats than The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord—purchased 224 acres of Arkansas-Missouri borderland in the lakes of the Ozarks region from the Campus Crusade for Christ. There, they established a separatist commune called Zarephath-Horeb to stockpile food and practice self-sufficiency while awaiting the tribulations. On the way to find Zarephath, I’d pulled off about halfway in Harrison, Arkansas—which had gone from having four white-power billboards to one in 2017—for a cathartic **** in a Hobby Lobby restroom. 

The story I was driving toward hit a little too close to home. My paternal great-grandfather hailed from Cassville, Missouri; we still have kin there. My mother’s side of the family are Mormons. The Mormons in Missouri have their own dark history, having settled in Jackson County in the 1830s after Joseph Smith declared it to be his followers’ Zion. The residents of Jackson County had other ideas; attacks followed, and Smith’s followers and a Mormon paramilitary sect calling themselves the Danites carried out a terror campaign of reprisals in the “Mormon Missouri War,” leading Governor Lilburn Boggs to sign Missouri Executive Order 44, known as the “extermination order,” on October 27, 1838, to rid the state of the Mormons and the problems they brought. 

The Christian terror cult I was chasing was four hours away from the Mormons’ last Missouri stand, but I was glad my bowels were empty as I continued twisting on mountain roads, saw-toothing around Bull Shoals Lake, near the old CSA border compound. 

James Ellison, a Church of Christ minister, founded the CSA as a Christian commune with seven other families in nearby Elijah, Missouri, in 1971. The group grew in fits and starts, and Ellison bought the compound on the Bull Shoals lakefront in ’76. They lived an insular, severe life there. Smoking and drinking were forbidden; everybody worked, gave their personal possessions up to the commune, and listened to Ellison’s increasingly conspiratorial sermons about America’s imminent decline. In 1978, Ellison told his flock that the apocalypse was coming on August 12. To prepare for the inevitable decline that would attend the end of the world, the group stockpiled $52,000 in arms and ammunition, appointed a “defense minister,” and began to study military tactics.

When August 12 passed without the foretold tribulations, some of Ellison’s original flock left the fold, and he took a job on a crew building nuclear missile silos in Missouri, while other men in the group earned money as hired hands or logging cedar, with all money earned consecrated toward the group’s goals. It got weird, fast. “Members of the CSA are tied by a non-traditional religion which includes faith healing, speaking in tongues, and a prophecy which says that society will soon collapse in turmoil,” a 1982 internal FBI report stated:

In preparation for this, the group stockpiles food and weapons and trains themselves in military and survival procedures…taught are firearms and marksmanship, rappelling, foraging for food, **** of such obstacles as punji sticks and barbed wire to detour looters [sic], urban warfare, military field craft, national forest survival, home defense, Christian martial arts, Christian military truths, nuclear survival and tax protesting.

“By 1980, we had grown to about sixty members, including children,” wrote Kerry Noble, a Texas-born spiritual seeker who became the CSA’s second-in-command and public face. Noble helped further radicalize the community when he began to play them tapes by John Todd, a Dallas-based hellfire preacher who claimed to be a defector from the “Grand-Druid Council of 13,” the innermost circle of the evil hidden hand of the world—the Illuminati, who sought to enslave humanity with the aid of demonic forces and the Trilateral Commission. 

Todd claimed that the Robert Redford movie Three Days of the Condor was more real than anyone knew: The codebook that Redford’s CIA character discovers was in fact Ayn Rand’s 1950s doorstop Atlas Shrugged, which, Todd argued, was a blueprint for the takeover plan of the Illuminati. Rand’s hero, John Galt, was really a stand in for the Philippe Rothschild, whom Todd asserted was the leader of the cabal. (Ellison, too, had returned from his missile-building to the compound with tapes of sermons—there were no email threads or Twitter accounts to spread ideas then—from the nearby Church of Israel, which promulgated Christian Identity, a racist theology that held whites to be the real chosen tribe of Israel and Jews to be the spawn of Satan.)

In December 1979, the group entrusted its military training to a refugee from the Southern California rock-and-roll scene named Randall Rader, who adopted the title of General. “Rader had no formal military training, but he owned several military fieldcraft books,” Noble wrote later. Noble was in charge of a “Home Guard,” a paramilitary unit that he described as “a man fifteen years older than me that has an artificial leg... an epileptic, retarded man; two half-blind, fat young men; and two men who could care less about the military than I do.” 

They began paramilitary training; some footage of the “Endtime Overcomer Survival Training School” remains available in a documentary on YouTube. In it, a CSA instructor explains to a row of eight adolescent long-haired girls standing in formation, rifles slung on their shoulders, why they’re there. “It is our duty as Christians, as Americans, to learn how to survive,” he tells his “cadets.” He is wearing tinted aviator glasses below a low-slung field cap and tanker goggles—just in case. There’s a dusting of snow on the ground. “We’re here to learn how to survive what’s coming on the earth, so we can better serve God’s people for His name’s sake.” 

The teens, wearing green fatigues and combat boots, listen intently. On one, a sheathed army surplus combat knife hangs from a leather harness slung over a Wehrmacht field jacket. “Part of how we’ll survive this thing is proper weapon technique,” the CSA man says, before leading girls who do not appear old enough to drive through live fire drills. The lesson ends with a benediction: “Thank you Jesus. Lord, just teach us your ways of war, teach us how to love and how to hate, bless us Jesus and keep us safe.” As they move through the compound, a hand-painted sign above the CSA man’s shoulder becomes visible: It reads US Embassy Tehran. That footage was shot in 1980, shortly after Ellison had prophesied apocalypse. When it didn’t come, the members that stayed on sunk deeper into preparations for the battle against the Illuminati.

Then the polygamy started. Michael Haddigan, a reporter for the Arkansas Gazettein the 1980s, told me a story over the phone: Ellison gathered all the community elders and explained that the Lord had told him, in a dream, that he was to sleep with everyone on the compound, including their wives. This upset some elders. The next day, Ellison gathered them back together and explained that the Lord had told him, in a dream, that he was to sleep with everyone on the compound except for their wives. 

That did not go over well with Ellison’s wife, Ollie, who’d grown alarmed at her husband’s shift over the course of their marriage. She’d fallen in love with Jim, the charismatic Texas preacher, a man slightly older than her who was once kind to her, when she was a single mother raising a daughter with Down syndrome.  

This other Jim made her uneasy; this “King of the Ozarks,” wholeheartedly embracing the neo-Nazi Christian Identity lifestyle. She thought her husband would keep her safe; instead, he was making alliances with the Idaho- and Washington-based Brüder schweigen of “The Order,” a neo-Nazi revolutionary group founded by a Mormon survivalist named Robert Jay Matthews. The CSA began offering sanctuary and training space to Order members, who funded their revolution with a string of robberies that kicked off in a Spokane sex-shop heist and evolved into bank jobs. Ollie had reason to worry. Ellison and his flock—he’d recruited young psychic casualties of the 1970s, damaged people trying to start over—were beginning to fracture over the polygamy, and the danger was real.

The CSA land on Bull Shoals Lake became a meeting and training ground for white supremacists from all around the United States. A flyer for the CSA National Convocation—held October 8-10, 1982, in Pontiac, Missouri—promised free admission to listen to three guest speakers. The first was Jack Mohr, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and former prisoner of war in Korea who ran his own Christian Identity paramilitary group, recruiting through his publication The Christian Patriot Crusader. There was “Pastor Bob” Miles, a one time grand dragon in the Michigan Ku Klux Klan, who’d been arrested and tried for plotting to bomb school buses and stop integration. Finally, there was Richard Butler, an aeronautical engineer from Los Angeles who’d joined an American fascist organization called the Silver Shirts before Pearl Harbor, then founded the Aryan Nations during Vietnam in a northern Idaho compound. 

The disparate white supremacist cells were attempting to merge into a body—a National CSA Confederacy—and like any good conference, pre-registration was required. “Only White, Patriotic, Serious CHRISTIANS need apply,” the flyer insisted, promising classes on weapons, the income tax, nuclear survival, the betrayal of America, natural childbirth, food storage, and the Jews. Rappelling was also an option.           

In June 1984, Richard Wayne Snell, a free-ranging white militant who operated out of the CSA compound and an Oklahoma safehaven called Elohim City, killed a pawn-shop owner he thought was Jewish in a robbery; in the getaway, he killed an Arkansas state trooper he knew was black. At the funeral for the trooper, Louis Bryant, Governor Bill Clinton announced that investigating extremist groups was among his top priorities.

Things went south for the movement quickly. The Order’s founder, Robert Jason Matthews, was killed on December 8, 1984, following a standoff with the FBI at his Washington state home, in which he donned a gas mask and fired 1,000 rounds at federal agents, including some in a circling helicopter. The confrontation the CSA cultists were waiting for was nigh, and by this time they’d acquired 30 gallons of potassium cyanide for the armory.   

Federal officials in Little Rock called FBI headquarters for help with their bubba problem; this activated a newly formed paramilitary cell within the FBI called the Hostage Rescue Team, whose name only hinted at their real function: counterterrorism. These were the FBI’s elite shooters modeled on the Army’s Delta Force, who’d gone operational in late 1983 after Operation Equus Red—a capstone nuclear terrorism scenario in New Mexico in which Hostage Rescue Team operators assaulted a safehouse to recover a mock weapon of mass destruction. 

This, now, was the real thing.

The Hostage Rescue Team guys deployed to the Ozarks, posing as white-collar types on a corporate fishing retreat when checking into hotels and lodges from Branson, Missouri, to Mountain Home, Arkansas; they discreetly suited up like commandos and set into concealed positions around The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord property. On April 20, 1985—Adolf Hitler’s birthday, a feast day for white supremacists—“the FBI and ATF, assisted by the Missouri and Arkansas State police, surrounded the compound and began negotiations with Ellison,” the FBI’s report states.

Remarkably, the standoff ended peacefully. Demonstrating that they had overwhelming numbers and overwhelming firepower, FBI agents opened a dialogue with Ellison; behind the scenes, Ollie Ellison convinced her husband that it was God’s will they surrender. Asa Hutchinson, an up-and-coming Arkansas politician, at that time the youngest serving United States attorney, threw on an FBI raid jacket to go in and finalize the surrender deal. Ellison and the order members with active warrants—for membership in “the ORDER, a secret terrorist organization that has close ties to both the CSA and Aryan Nations,” the FBI reported—went quietly. 

The agents recovered stolen vehicles, 155 Krugerrands, $800 in U.S. currency, “numerous gold and silver coins,” a rocket for a light anti-tank weapon, two computers, CB radios, records, knives, 94 long guns, 30 handguns, 35 machine guns and sawed off shotguns, a heavy machine gun, two land mines, 25 improvised booby traps, 40 makeshift grenades, blasting caps, detonation cord, dynamite sticks, blocks of C-4 explosives, flares, smoke grenades, and “several hundred thousand rounds” of ammunition. Ellison and Noble and several others at the compound went on to prison. Federal law enforcement would not have such a smooth time with later sieges, such as the one on Koresh’s Branch Davidians in Waco, which ended in a fiery death for 76 disciples on April 19, 1993, a day short of the CSA siege’s anniversary; on that same day in 1995, the state of Arkansas executed Richard Wayne Snell by lethal injection, and a Christian Identity adherent and Army veteran and Special Forces washout with a Bronze Star for valor from the first Gulf War named Timothy McVeigh detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City. The CSA first discussed bombing the building in 1983. 


It was harder than I expected to find the compound; that was part of the original charm, I supposed. I finally located it with the help of a postal worker, whose kin had moved the family graveyard to higher ground when they dammed and flooded the valley to create Bull Shoals Lake in the early 1950s. The CSA’s old property had been subdivided and sold since the siege, and the owner of one parcel let me walk around as he mowed the lawn. Two outbuildings, carefully hewn beam-and-stone structures—the masonry was excellent—remained, but the structures had fallen into disrepair. Still, the firing positions were there, horizontal notches carved into the boarded-up windows and doors. As chiggers bit my legs, leaving small wounds that would linger for weeks, the infantryman in me imagined what a last stand here would’ve looked like; the human in me is grateful it didn’t go that way then.

Ellison was tried in July of 1985 on federal weapons and racketeering charges. The indictment was full of real criminal allegations arising from the CSA’s fantasy war against the “ZOG,” or Zionist Occupied Government; these included arson attacks on a Springfield, Missouri, church known to be gay-friendly and a Jewish community center in Bloomington, Indiana. Convicted and facing 20 years in prison, Ellison flipped for the feds and got out in six. He currently lives free, wheelchair-bound and elderly, in Elohim City, that Oklahoma white supremacist enclave once preferred by Richard Wayne Snell. 

I couldn’t help but see the similarities between Ellison’s situation and ours. Anyone paying attention to the news cycle knows we live in a time of tech- and Trump-driven magical thinking, often ignoring the truth of what’s right in front of us to focus on whatever bullshit baits our social network’s attention that day. The human attention span is finite, easily drawn to scandal, and already prone to suspecting darkness as an explanation for our broken political system. Hucksters, seeding narratives that are simple, neat, and wrong, exist on every frequency of the political spectrum, if not equally so.  

Yet for me, of all those proffering a seer-stone to secret knowledge today, Q is the most interesting. Most of the media labels it a conspiracy theory, but that doesn’t quite cut it for me. It is too intentionally dismissive and ignores the tangible, real-world effect of Q. From its start, I watched as an anonymous poster on the chans created a digital guerrilla army. Just as The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord stockpiled guns and ammo, the Q folks stockpile rare Pepes, dank memes and elaborate link-analysis charts for when the cause needs them. If Illuminati and Christian Identity sermon tapes were enough to radicalize the clustered CSA flock in the 1980s—imbuing their day-to-day life struggles with divine meaning—what could a similar Manichean narrative do today when unleashed in a carefully calibrated cyber campaign? How long could such a narrative survive? How many people could it radicalize?

I’ve tried to ask Mike Flynn, the Q hero and information-operations expert, but he’s kept ducking my attempts to get in touch. I would ask Q, but 8chan is still down. Maybe I should reach out to the National Security Council; Flynn is gone, but his protege, Matt Pottinger, was just promoted to second in command. 


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Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
« Reply #79 on: October 22, 2019, 06:15:15 pm »
That CSA pack of violence loving crazies may be gone, but I'm sure there are a lot of those "Live Fascist Pseudo-Christian Racist or Die" Hellspawn out there right now chomping at the bit to engage in "righteous" murder and mayhem.

Many years ago, in my early Christian walk, I went pretty far down the unChristian rabbit hole. :(  BUT, I always remained crystal clear about the fact that anyone that calls themselves a "Christian", who makes concrete, weapons arsenal creating plans to engage in violence against any other human, especially while encouraging others to do the same, is an ANTI-Christian.

Of course, this use of religion as a CON to rally other haters to engage in all sorts of heinous activity is not new.


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To those that wonder if this will finally break the Evangelical support for Trump, it won't, but…
You're looking at this from the wrong angle, it shouldn't be about trying to break the Evangelicals off from Trump, it should be about tying them to Trump so he takes them down with him.

Trump will go, but the evangelicals will continue to be a subversive and destructive force as they try to impose the Republic of Gilead upon all.

But by allying themselves so closely with Trump they have revealed their moral hipocracy and bankruptcy in a bindingly obvious fashion. Already some young Evangelicals are walking away in disgust and joining other less militant and more inclusive faiths (or even giving up on religion altogether).

If spun correctly this could break the back of the Evangelical movement and it's political power and influence, by a correct application of ETTD (Everything Trump Touches Dies). Brand them as the church of Trump, reiterate that he is their chosen one, that some of them even refer to him as their Messiah.

And when the Emperor is finally revealed to not only be naked but with a prolapsed anus [sorry for the image] and all the horrors of Trump's record, behaviour, crimes and attitudes are laid bare, he could drag them down.

Don't let them cast him out, paint them as HIS followers, HIS disciples, HIS enablers, HIS apologist. HIS moral equivalents.

They could even be cast to the religiously minded as a false faith that worshipped the antichrist. Other more compassionate faiths could try to entice their flocks (although would they want such hate filled followers?) and the corpse of their spiritual mandate could be pecked over by others looking to break them and their message.

Younger followers could be enticed to more progressive faiths, along with the disillusioned older believers who have a spiritual crisis.

And those that remain will not have any political influence as the GOP runs in terror from any association with Trump, which they won't be allowed to wash off.

Hopefully the movent will be completely taken over by get rich quick schemas and charlatans that make it a mockery (not that it isn't now, but a mockery even to those of faith).

Trump could be painted as the antichrist, he does tick a LOT of the boxes, and they could be portrayed as the fallen faith that worshipped the antichrist (the antichrist, not Satan, the church of Satan are moral and ethical - and actually trolls that mock religion).

Evangelicals could be painted as acolytes of corruption that are part of the forces of darkness. And that would break them, after all who are most likely to be secret devil worshippers than the ones that always go on and on about the devil, while ignoring the evil in their leaders.

Trump will die eventually, it's biology. Movements don't inevitably die, but if tied to a reprehensible individual they can be pulled down.

And fade away.

Associated Post:

Even more allegations emerge about 🦀 Donald Trump sexually assaulting teenage girls

Bill Palmer | 10:50 am EDT October 22, 2019
Palmer Report » Analysis

So many allegations of sexual misconduct have been made against Donald Trump, we’re in danger of losing track. It’s tricky to pin down why Trump’s status as a serial sexual assaulter isn’t among the biggest headlines about him, but it’s crucial that the story doesn’t get overlooked. In that regard, even more allegations have just emerged against Trump, this time involving – revoltingly – young girls.

Quite awhile back it was reported that Donald Trump liked to abuse his status as a beauty pageant boss to barge in on the young female contestants while they were getting dressed, and other similarly repulsive improprieties. According to a new book, Trump’s sexual misconduct during these beauty pageants was even worse than that. Far worse.

Donald Trump wasn’t just spying on these young female contestants while they were getting undressed, he was allegedly feeling up their breasts, kissing them on the mouth, and committing other forms of assault. Cosmopolitan has summed up some of the horror stories emerging from a new book, and the details are horrifying.

As a reminder, Donald Trump isn’t just a serial sexual assaulter who has yet to be brought to justice. He’s the President of the United States. He has a history of assaulting young girls, and now he’s the most powerful man in the world. It’s yet another reason why he must be ousted from office, and why he must be prosecuted for his crimes and put in prison.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/teenage-girls-donald-trump-allegations-assault/22182/

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Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2019, 10:23:50 am »
November 1st, 2019 by Steve Hanley

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“But I refuse to give it up, because I am a theological evangelical, one of those who can be simply defined as someone who takes the Bible seriously. This stands in stark contrast to today’s 😈 political evangelicals, whose statement of faith is written first by their politics and only a distant second by the Bible and who, if the two conflict, will prioritize their 😈 political ideology over theology.”

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He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

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A Prophetic Song About The Words of the Prophets:
« Reply #82 on: November 03, 2019, 11:58:50 am »
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived - 2 Timothy 3:13 King James Version (KJV)
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. - Revelation 17:17


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"The Sound of Silence" is a song by singer-songwriter duo Simon & Garfunkel. Written in February 1964 by Paul Simon.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

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Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2019, 03:37:06 pm »
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. - 2 Timothy 3:1

Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2 Timothy 3:4-5

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2019

"Lord , Let Your Arm Strengthen Trump": A Televangelist Is on White House Payroll

WILLIAM RIVERS PITT, TRUTHOUT

Donald Trump is desperate and cornered. What better balm for a man afflicted with rampant egotism than to hear from a "holy person" that he has been chosen to wear the mantle of Heaven, and that all who oppose him are not merely wrong, but an offense to God? Televangelist Paula White is now on the White House payroll, and she has launched an initiative to pray away impeachment.

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He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

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Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
« Reply #84 on: November 24, 2019, 01:15:23 pm »


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Fleecing the Flock: A Snapshot of America's Richest Pastors
patheos.com - Flies around in a $17.5 Jet, lives in a $6 million lakefront mansion with a 1,500 acre campus and a private airstrip. He and his wife make over $655,000 a year in salary alone. It’s not clear whether…

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And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. -- 1 John 2:3-4

There is a special place in Hell for the evil bastards, posing as Christian Pastors, who run the MegaChurches pushing the "greed is good" Prosperity Preaching Doctrine of Demons in the USA. Those evil bastards and their supporters laugh when they read comments like mine. They never did take anything written in the Bible they sanctimoniously (selectively ) quote seriously, so that is no surprise. Here's an Old Testament quote, that you will NEVER hear in a MegaChurch, that describes these "Pastor" Servants of Satan perfectly:

For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the Lord abhorreth. The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. His ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them. He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for I shall never be in adversity. His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity. He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor. He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net. He croucheth, and humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones. He hath said in his heart, God hath forgotten: he hideth his face; he will never see it. Psalm 10:4-11

Yeah, they think the world is their oyster. Something tells me that, very soon now, they are going to be very disappointed. In fact, the way things are going (i.e. ) in the world today, several of those evil bastards on the list will experience a well deserved dose of justice before they finish their blasphemous soul of perdition demonic tour of duty on Earth. 

"With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him."Daniel 11:32

For the needy shall not always be forgotten: the expectation of the poor shall not perish for ever. -- Psalm 9:18
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

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Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2019, 02:20:20 pm »
The early Christian Church had their number (Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. -- 1 John 2:15). Real Christians still do.

Kenneth Copeland – Copeland Ministries Flies around in a $17.5 Jet, lives in a $6 million lakefront mansion with a 1,500 acre campus and a private airstrip. He and his wife make over $655,000 a year in salary alone. It’s not clear whether this includes speaking fees, book royalties, and “love offerings.” Creflo Dollar – World Changers Church International Drives a Rolls-Royce and lives in a Million dollar home in Atlanta, and a 2.5 million-dollar apartment in Manhattan. Dollar will not release his salary information. John Hagee – Cornerstone Church His last released salary was nearly $1 million per year (2004). Hagee does not release his earnings anymore. Charles Blake – West Angeles Church of God in Christ Owns a 10,000 square foot mansion in Beverly Hills (btw his congregation hails mostly from impoverished South Central LA) His year salary is $900,000 per year. Benny Hinn – Miracle Worker In 1997 he admitted to making between $500k & $1 million dollars per year Joel Osteen – Lakewood Church Stopped taking his $200,000 salary several years ago. Makes tens of millions off of his numerous books. Joel & family live in a $10.5 million – get this – 17,000 square foot mansion. Treasures in heaven people. Bishop Eddie Long – New Birth Missionary Baptist Church Long made over $3 million in a three year period from 1997 to 2000. He drives a Bentley, and lives in a 1.4 million dollar home on 20 acres. An investigation into his non profit showed he made more than $1 million dollars from them on top of his church income. No doubt some of that went toward his legal fees in 2011.Ed Young – Fellowship Church Dot Com Lives in a 10k square foot 1.5 million dollar home. He gets paid a cool $1 million dollars a year, plus a $240,000 parsonage allowance. That doesn’t count the royalties he makes off of his recent Sexperiment. Franklin Graham – Billy Graham Evangelistic Association In 2008 he reportedly made 1.2 million dollars. Your father should slap your face Franklin. Rick Warren – Saddleback Church

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. -- 1 John 2:19
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Re: Corporate Fascist Corruption of Christianity
« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2019, 04:55:08 pm »
When  Franklin Graham saw Sarah Huckabee Sanders say this, he became convinced that Franklin's God (i.e. ) is calling her to be Governor:
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. -- 1 John 2:3-4
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

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Hat Tip to Surly for pointing readers to this story
« Reply #88 on: December 20, 2019, 01:31:42 pm »
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Mark Galli: One of my main goals for the last three or four years is to have evangelicals on the left and the right, pro-Trump and anti-Trump, learn to listen to each other, to be caring to one another, to understand one another. I think our unity in Christ is much more important than our fusion in politics.

I have friends who voted for Trump for strong, prudential reasons. They’re very much pro-life, very much pro–religious freedom. They said, “Well, we can put up with his moral problems, because he’s delivering on things that are really important to us.” So, you know, I grant that.

The Atlantic

DECEMBER 19, 2019

By EMMA GREEN

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Evangelicals just received an ultimatum: Abandon President Donald Trump, or betray your brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
Christianity Today—the magazine founded by the famous preacher Billy Graham, and the longtime forum for mainstream evangelical thought—has published an editorial calling for Trump to be removed from the White House. The editor in chief, Mark Galli, acknowledged that “the typical CT approach is to stay above the fray and allow Christians with different political convictions to make their arguments in the public square.” But the facts are “unambiguous,” Galli wrote. “The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.”

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Agelbert NOTE: Altough I welcome this (better late than never) news, I can only say that it sure has taken long enough for these "Evangelicals" to smell the 🦀 Trump, fascist oligarch kotowing coffee. There is a LOT more IMMORAL, ANTI-CHRISTIAN BEHAVIOR from 😈 Trump, almost SINCE DAY ONE in the White House, than the Ukraine extorsion plot.







December 19, 2019: Christianity Today Editor Mark Galli: "It’s time to say what we said 20 years ago when a president’s character was revealed for what it was." ... “Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump’s immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency.”
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Trump Should Be Removed from Office

It’s time to say what we said 20 years ago when a president’s character was revealed for what it was.

MARK GALLI

DECEMBER 19, 2019

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The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.

The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.


Trump’s evangelical supporters have pointed to his Supreme Court nominees, his defense of religious liberty, and his stewardship of the economy, among other things, as achievements that justify their support of the president. We believe the impeachment hearings have made it absolutely clear, in a way the Mueller investigation did not, that President Trump has abused his authority for personal gain and betrayed his constitutional oath. The impeachment hearings have illuminated the president’s moral deficiencies for all to see. This damages the institution of the presidency, damages the reputation of our country, and damages both the spirit and the future of our people. None of the president’s positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character.

This concern for the character of our national leader is not new in CT. In 1998, we wrote this:

The President's failure to tell the truth—even when cornered—rips at the fabric of the nation. This is not a private affair. For above all, social intercourse is built on a presumption of trust: trust that the milk your grocer sells you is wholesome and pure; trust that the money you put in your bank can be taken out of the bank; trust that your babysitter, firefighters, clergy, and ambulance drivers will all do their best. And while politicians are notorious for breaking campaign promises, while in office they have a fundamental obligation to uphold our trust in them and to live by the law.

And this:

Unsavory dealings and immoral acts by the President and those close to him have rendered this administration morally unable to lead.

Unfortunately, the words that we applied to Mr. Clinton 20 years ago apply almost perfectly to our current president. Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election—that is a matter of prudential judgment. That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments.

To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr. Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this: Remember who you are and whom you serve. Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump’s immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency. If we don’t reverse course now, will anyone take anything we say about justice and righteousness with any seriousness for decades to come? Can we say with a straight face that abortion is a great evil that cannot be tolerated and, with the same straight face, say that the bent and broken character of our nation’s leader doesn’t really matter in the end?

We have reserved judgment on Mr. Trump for years now. Some have criticized us for our reserve. But when it comes to condemning the behavior of another, patient charity must come first. So we have done our best to give evangelical Trump supporters their due, to try to understand their point of view, to see the prudential nature of so many political decisions they have made regarding Mr. Trump. To use an old cliché, it’s time to call a spade a spade, to say that no matter how many hands we win in this political poker game, we are playing with a stacked deck of gross immorality and ethical incompetence. And just when we think it’s time to push all our chips to the center of the table, that’s when the whole game will come crashing down. It will crash down on the reputation of evangelical religion and on the world’s understanding of the gospel. And it will come crashing down on a nation of men and women whose welfare is also our concern.

Mark Galli is editor in chief of Christianity Today.

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https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

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