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If you were a former Trump supporter, what is the point at which you finally said, “He’s gone too far this time, I’ve had enough”?

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I’ll tell Quora right up front my political beliefs when it comes to Donald Trump, and why I was a die hard supporter of his as a young adult going into the election.

It wasn’t one thing he said or one move he made that made me lose support. It was a lot more gradual than that.
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A MAGA sign now sits in the farthest corner of my home collecting dust. What will one day be known as a relic of history, known as the day America made a grave mistake including myself. As the saying goes fool me once shame on you. I’m not going to let Trump fool me again.

My Conclusion:

So yes I supported him, I greatly supported what he said in the last election and I fully admit that. However it gets the point where you have to admit that someone is a liar, and that you were wrong. Well I admit as a Trump supporter that I was wrong, and in the next election I will no longer be voting for Trump. Everything that Trump said he was going to do, he did the exact opposite.



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Re: 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2020, 11:42:09 pm »
January 5, 2020

Anthony, CBS just released the first Iowa poll we’ve seen in weeks and the results are staggering. It’s all tied up. 23-23-23. ;D

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Agelbert NOTE: Pay Attention to HOW the New York Times REPEATEDLY LIES pretending Trump is "against" war.

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The Media Is Waking Up to a Possible Bernie Victory. Get Ready for the 👹 Backlash.
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Yes, the Propaganda arm of the 🎩 Dollars and 🏴‍ Drones U.S. Empire, otherwise known as the 😈 Mainstream Media, will go after Senator Sanders in order to demonize him with all sorts of character assiassination, defamatory remarks, and scaremongering about Green New Deal "Socialist economy endangering evils".

It won't work. BUT, that doesn't matter.

Here's the 🦀🐘🦕🦖😈👹🐍 PLAN:

After months and months of serial defamatory bullshit, complete with wailing, gnashing of teeth and hysterical shrieking about how POTUS Sanders would put your entire family in a commie labor camp making solar panels and wind turbines, confiscate your 401K and health insurance, ban all "Christian" religious activity and turn America "criminally overrun" brown by welcoming immigrants of the "wrong" color, the REAL skullduggery, the RIGGING of poll numbers based on FAKE defamatory "news" about Sanders, will have been accomplished. The poll numbers will be manipulated so the American Public can be suckered into believing Sanders is, on the eve of the 2020 election, at the 50% approval rating point vs. WHATEVER the Trump (in the toilet) numbers are.

As long as that "no higher than 50% Sanders approval" CORK is the perceived "reality" on the eve of the election, then the election rigging for a Trump "win" can then proceed without raising too many (see: preserving the 😇 "democracy" pig lipstick) eyebrows.

The reality is that the popularity of 🦅 Senator Sanders will continue to grow. The jackals in our Capitalist Police State don't want to make a martyr out of him because that could spark a REALLY Socialist Revolution here, so the 😈 poll numbers perception management is the 🐍 plan.

ANYONE that believes that Trump won the election in 2016 fairly or has a chance to win the 2020 presidential election fairly is in denial of the facts. But then, denial of reality is an intrinsic part of the mindset of that small, but noisy, segment of our population that supports Trump.


If God does not step in to crush the poll manipulating and election rigging, Trump will steal the 2020 election. Then it really will be over for this country, and possibly the entire human species.

May God have mercy on us and prevent Trump, his Wrecking Crew, AND OTHER Capitalist Lackeys like Pelosi, from stealing the presidential election from Senator Sanders. TPTB are wih Trump. The VAST MAJORITY of the PEOPLE, some of them former Trump supporters, are with Bernie Sanders.

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INTELLIGENCER

JAN. 8, 2020

Trump Doesn’t Want Voters to Know How Much His Family’s Trips Cost Taxpayers

By Matt Stieb

Though the president’s displays of ostentatious wealth didn’t hurt his electoral prospects last time around, the administration is reportedly worried about the public response if voters learn just how much taxpayers are putting up for Trump family vacations and travel. According to the Washington Post, the administration is attempting to delay House Democrats’ efforts to reveal the Secret Service budget until after the 2020 election, in part so that voters do not learn how much they are spending on Trump trips.

The attempt to delay the release involves a bill drafted in part by Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin bringing the Secret Service under his department’s purview, where it was housed from its foundation in 1865 until 2003, when the agency was enveloped by the Department of Homeland Security. As part of the proposed bill, Democrats would require that the Secret Service release how much it costs to protect Trump family travel within 120 days of its passage. 😈 Mnuchin is reportedly onboard for the reporting of travel expenses, but only if the practice begins in 2021.

Though Trump promised during the campaign that he would “rarely leave the White House,” he has spent 114 days at his home in Mar-a-Lago and 75 days at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in New Jersey. Full records of Secret Service spending are unavailable, but individual costs detailed over the years offer a glimpse of how much the agency is spending to protect our leisurely president — and why the administration might not want the details publicized in an election year.

In his first four trips to Mar-a-Lago in 2017, the Secret Service alone spent about $1.3 million on each visit. Just renting enough golf carts to follow the president — without hampering his ability to cheat on the green — has cost $588,000 since 2017, according to federal spending data available online. The Secret Service has also had to put taxpayer money directly into Trump’s pocket, spending at least $250,000 at Trump properties in the first five months of his term. For just one month in 2017, Trump’s travel costs totaled $13.6 million, including expenditures by the Secret Service, the Department of Defense, and the cost of renting space and equipment. As the Post notes: “Trump has made 22 more trips to Mar-a-Lago since then … If the Secret Service’s costs remained constant, that would mean more than $28 million in further spending by the Secret Service alone, and $75 million from the government in all — and just on a fraction of Trump’s total travel.” In contrast, and flouting Trump’s impression of his predecessor, the government reportedly spent around $96 million on travel for Obama over eight years. Less than two months into Trump’s term, the Secret Service asked Congress for a budget boost of $60 million to manage presidential travel.

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Trump’s family, too, has proven to be a serious expense for the agency. As the Post notes: “Since their father was elected, Trump’s sons Eric and Donald Jr. have made business trips to overseas locales including Ireland, Scotland, Dubai, Uruguay, and India. In 2017, Eric Trump’s visit to a Trump building under construction in Uruguay cost taxpayers $97,000.” Last September, the Secret Service also put in a bid to buy Jet Skis, so that federal agents could protect the Trump family off the shore of Mar-a-Lago. 

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/trump-wants-to-hide-secret-service-cost-of-family-trips.html

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A 'confused' Trump tried to take credit for the Ethiopian prime minister's Nobel Peace Prize



  • President Donald Trump falsely claimed on Thursday that he deserved credit for the Nobel Peace Prize recently awarded to Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed.
  • Ahmed was awarded the prestigious prize for negotiating a peace deal between Ethiopia and neighboring Eritrea following 20 years of bloody conflict. Trump had nothing to do with the peace negotiations.
  • "I made a deal. I saved a country. And I just heard that the head of that country is now getting the Nobel Peace Prize for saving the country. I said, 'What? did I have something do with it?' Yeah," Trump said.
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At a rally in Ohio on Thursday night, President Donald Trump claimed that he deserved credit for the Nobel Peace Prize recently awarded to Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed.

"I made a deal. I saved a country. And I just heard that the head of that country is now getting the Nobel Peace Prize for saving the country. I said, 'What? Did I have something do with it?' Yeah," Trump said. "But you know, that's the way it is. As long as we know, that's all that matters."

Trump last year offered to help negotiate an agreement between the Ethiopian prime minister and Egypt's prime minister over a dam on the Nile. But Ahmed was awarded the prestigious prize for negotiating a peace deal between Ethiopia and neighboring Eritrea following 20 years of bloody conflict. Trump had nothing to do with these peace negotiations.

The Democratic-led House Foreign Affairs Committee slammed Trump's remark, tweeting, "Trump is confused."

House Foreign Affairs Committee ✔@HouseForeign

Trump is confused.
PM @AbiyAhmedAli was awarded the @NobelPrize for his efforts to bring peace to the Horn of Africa, not stalled negotiations about a new dam on the Nile.

If they gave the Nobel for deals that didn’t happen, the Pres. would have a shelf full of them. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1215435613203202048 

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"I made a deal, I saved a country, and I just heard that the head of that country is now getting the Nobel Peace Prize for saving the country. I said, 'what, did I have something do with it?'" -- Trump whines about not having a Nobel Peace Prize

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SATURDAY, JANUARY 11, 2020

Bernie Sanders Leads in "Gold-Standard" Iowa Poll for First Time

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Presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders is leading for the first time in a poll considered the "gold standard" in Iowa, which will hold the opening caucus of the Democratic race in the next three weeks. This is the first time in either of his campaigns for president that Sanders has led in this poll, which puts him ahead of Elizabeth Warren, who is polling at second place.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2020, 02:12:30 pm »
EcoWatch

Jordan Davidson Jan. 08, 2020 11:15AM EST

SNIPPET:

'Forever' chemicals, which are often referred to as PFAS (per- and polyfluoroalkyl chemicals), are a class of heat and water-resistant chemicals used in a variety of industrial products, flame retardants and nonstick products, such as raincoats, cookware and packaging and have leeched into water supplies in almost every state in the country, according to The Hill. They are known carcinogens and do not degrade in the environment nor in the human body.

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Agelbert NOTE: As if the PFAS carcinogen 24/7 boost to the oncologists' (i.e. cancer doctors) "business model" wasn't enough of a HEALTH problem for Americans, there is more to this veto threat PROMISE from Trump than meets the eye.

You see, ALL those chemicals that Cheney got a free pass for way back in 2003, under his engineered Fracking "injection fluids ☠️ exemption" from the Clean Water Act, INCLUDE a significant percentage of PFAS chemicals. If this new bill is passed, Fracking pollution will no longer get a free pass.

🦀 Trump, a loyal lickspittle lackey of the 🦕😈🦖 Hydrocarbon Hellspawn, will do all he can to continue to defend the right of Frackers to poison we-the-people on behalf of profit over people and planet.

As you can see in this link, the Hydrocarbon Hellspawn CORRUPTED EPA has deliberately avoided publishing a comprehensive list of chemicals ☠️ in the fracking injection fluids, even though PFAS (and several other highly toxic chemicals) have been indentified in Fracking injection fluids for OVER 15 YEARS.






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Calling Bernie Sanders Anti-Semitic Is Islamophobic
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Calling Bernie Sanders Anti-Semitic Is Islamophobic
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2020, 06:55:08 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: Yes, this video belongs in this topic thread. Beside the fact that Sanders is the only candidate that can lead us to properly address Catastrophic Climate Change, Warren's mendacious claim about Sanders is debunked.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election
« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2020, 01:50:49 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: This JonSellers witty sarcasm accurately communicates the American "Health" Insurance Situation.

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I, for one, am happy to pay any amount demanded by our health insurance companies. The sacrifices these people go through in order to negotiate prices with doctors and hospitals is almost beyond comprehension. Not to mention the hours our great actuaries spend determining prices to charge. And don't get me started on the efforts of the humble bill checkers who have to scan so many doctor's bills for possible errors.

And think of the shareholders! Imagine the Galt-like heroes, every day risking their capital on us unscrupulous, sick know-nothings. Thank God that they have been rewarded for their wild risk-taking. Why I know one fellow who inherited a measly $200 million from his Dad and had the guts to invest $20 million in Aetna! He could of lost a few million dollars! What would he have done? Just go without the second yacht? Like an animal?

We have the greatest health-care system in the world. Canadians have to wait decades just to buy an aspirin. When we can get one same day for just $300 at the emergency room! Some of you Commie, liberal, Socialists may want to pay less, but for me, give me my liberty to work until I'm 67 so I can pay our insurance companies all that they're worth! I'm with Mish!

Mish is a Libertarian 👎 who, though able to add and subtract quite well, cannot bring himself to do the U.S. health care reality based math, which every other advanced industrialized country has done, proving that single payer is the best option for BOTH controlling costs and providing the highest quality health care.

Mish is a study in ideological blindness. He exposes the government corruption that produces artificially low inflation numbers and out of control health care costs, but totally fails to connect said calculated defrauding of the poor and middle class with those (i.e. Capitalist oligarchs running the Federal Reserve and Wall Street for the benefit of said greedballs) actually responsible for this U.S. Government corruption.

All that said, Mish is not totally out to ideological lunch. He does admit that soaring health care costs may very well give Bernie Sanders, a person Mish is totally at policy odds with, the 2020 Presidential election. The comments below explain why that is a real possibility, since Sanders is the only Presidential candidate pushing for unrestricted Medicare-4-ALL.    

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Yep. Health care, currently 18% of US GDP, heading toward 25%.

Compared to “single payer” systems in much of the developed world which cost 8-11% of GDP, and cover everyone.

I know I keep repeating myself whenever Mish brings this up, but the US will eventually arrive at a single payer system at some point in the distant future. But not before they try everything else possible first. And not until the costs begin to approach 25% of GDP.

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I agree. I actually thought 20% would do it, but now it may be 25%. The US continues to believe that it can support medical advances for the world, but it can't, at least not for much longer. Eventually we will go to a single payer system, perhaps like the VA, perhaps like Medicaid, and we can just let medical advances stagnate. It has to happen, sooner or later.

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I agree too because at some point the average person just can't afford health care anymore and they will begin to care more about health care and what it costs them than any other topic and that will force the politicians to do something about it.

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System is broken. Drug companies get created to buy drugs with competition and raise the price 10,000%. Low deductions on insurance remove any incentive for consumer to price shop for the best price. U.S. should really be using the swiss health care model . And even though Swiss health care costs are above the Swiss inflation rate in 2019 they only went up 3%

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Everything (literally) outpaces the massively manipulated (cooked) bs CPI calculations, and not by a little, by a whole lot, just using health care as a metric inflation would be up 25% YOY.....at least, that means healthcare (most everything) is in (stealth)hyperinflation.

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I manage benefits for a small business. Our healthcare cost has risen No LESS than 6% per year over the past 5 years. Our base plan, which is also the most popular, rose by a whopping 18% this year. Its total insanity.

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Absolute criminal racketeering ...... And try using your Medicare with any of the criminal doctors .... they'll laugh at you ..... Land of the free

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House released documents turned over by Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas.

Eye-opening. Straight, no chaser. Copy of original letter from Schiff to Nadler, plus scans of Rudy's handwritten notes, plus text messages from several, including Rudy and Hyde, Rudy's goon. Wowza.

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2020/01/New-Evidence.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3s4Fwd34SWJ7Z_pnbP0VLUigbgr6B0L_Bz_k5iikpxk4Y15R7_7bhPSz4


I fully appreciate that not everyone has the same appetite for following this story. But I've been intent on following the truth of the matter, and trying to get to the story behind the MSM bullshit and spin.

If you follow the above link, you eventually get to Lutsenko, a former Prosecutor general of Ukraine and the apparent originator of a lot of the "evidence" manufactured against the Bidens. If you want to understand the seamy underbelly of this Ukraine issue, you have to understand Lutsenko.

Here is the best article I have found to date. It is complicated, and nuanced, but a damned good job of repertorial restraint.

The Ukrainian Prosecutor Behind Trump’s Impeachment
How the efforts of Yuriy Lutsenko and Rudy Giuliani to smear Joe Biden led to a Presidential crisis.


It's pretty clear (to me, anyhow) that by luring Trump into the Ukraine rat's nest, Giuliani has ended up damaging him more seriously than Robert Mueller or James Comey ever did. Well done, Rudy 9-11!

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Jim Wright on Parnas docs
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2020, 02:20:59 pm »

House released documents turned over by Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas.

Eye-opening. Straight, no chaser. Copy of original letter from Schiff to Nadler, plus scans of Rudy's handwritten notes, plus text messages from several, including Rudy and Hyde, Rudy's goon. Wowza.

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2020/01/New-Evidence.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3s4Fwd34SWJ7Z_pnbP0VLUigbgr6B0L_Bz_k5iikpxk4Y15R7_7bhPSz4

Jim Wright's take:

It's becoming increasingly obvious that the President of the United States, via his personal lawyer, plotted against an American ambassador.

The evidence is overwhelming and utterly damning.
Rudy Giuliani literally coordinated surveillance on Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch. One text, from Giuliani's subordinate Robert Hyde to Lev Parnas, LITERALLY described Ukrainian underworld figures willing to "help" with Yovanovitch for "a price"

Verbatim: "They are willing to help if we/you would like a price."

That picture of Trump? The guy with him is Robert Hyde.

A bit later, Trump talked to Ukraine President Zelensky. Which is what started the whole impeachment. Trump HIMSELF provided a summary of that call. In that summary, Trump says to Zelensky, "She's going to go through some things." He was specifically, according to his own "transcript," talking about ambassador Yovanovitch.

She's going to go through some things.

He said that, KNOWING Rudy Giuliani was engaged in surveillance on the ambassador and that the Ukrainian underworld was involved.

Shortly thereafter, Yovanovitch was told to leave Ukraine immediately over concerns about her safety. Threats against her safety that were specifically generated BY THE WHITE HOUSE.

Then, last night at his rally, instead of explaining any of this, Trump instead went on a tear against light bulbs, dishwashers, fridges, toilets, and showers. Like you do if you're completely sane. Right?

Of course, there should be no surprises here. This is how business does business. This is American business every day, right here. This is who Trump is. A crooked mobbed up businessman from New York.

You know what I'm gonna say: If you elect a businessman, then you're gonna get the business.

And you're gonna get it good and hard.

But, it's worse than that.

Because this morning we're sitting here, watching this shitshow. Literally watching Trump plot the death of his own ambassador while the Senate Majority Leader openly flies top cover for him and Congress openly refuses to do its Constitutionally mandated duty. We're watching all of this unfold, right? In real time. Right now. Our government utterly failing not only the country but the entire world. We're watching this, right?

And instead of forcefully and definitely taking the lead, Democratic Candidates are right now petulantly throwing **** at each other like spoiled rotten children absolutely determined to lose once again to Donald Trump.

Unbelievable.

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Bernie won the debate last night
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Last night, at the final Democratic presidential primary debate before Iowa votes, corporate-backed candidates and moderators attacked Bernie Sanders and his vision of a democracy that works for all Americans, not just the economic elite.

But despite their best efforts to divide our grassroots movement, Bernie Sanders walked off stage the clear winner of the most important debate so far.

While the media wants to turn politics into a game, everyone reading this email knows that the stakes in 2020 are life and death for our democracy (and our planet).

Agelbert NOTE: The circular firing squad is an old Divide and Conquer trick the DINOs have played often in the past, in order to pretend they really didn't want a fellow fascist (i.e. a Republican) to win the election. Now, as in 2016, their guns are pointed at Senator 🦅 Bernie Sanders, the only Presidential Candidate who actually can even begin to get us out of the profit over people and planet mess we are in. Don't get distracted by all the BULLSHIT from the bought and paid for fascist media AND the DINOs sniping at Sanders. When they solemnly tell you that Senator Sanders is "expletive deleted", mark down who spewed the defamatory legerdemain. Whether it is CNN or Elizabeth Warren or Pelosi, they are not to EVER be trusted to defend your interests.


Those attacking Senator Sanders are defending the interests of 👹 TPTB. How have the interests of TPTB worked for you?


 
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