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Re: 🌟 IMPEACHMENT SCORE 🌠
« Reply #165 on: November 09, 2019, 08:49:16 pm »
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Re: 🌟 IMPEACHMENT SCORE 🌠
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Re: 🌟 IMPEACHMENT SCORE 🌠
« Reply #167 on: November 09, 2019, 09:04:26 pm »
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Re: 🌟 IMPEACHMENT SCORE 🌠
« Reply #168 on: November 11, 2019, 09:59:20 am »


The real reason the witness testimony is so devastating to 🦀 Donald Trump


Robert Harrington | 10:30 am EST November 10, 2019
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Fiona Hill was born almost exactly 300 miles from where I am currently typing this, a dawdle in American terms but half a nation away in English terms. I mention this because it brings to my mind two germane realities. The first is that even today America is composed of immigrants of all hues and origins. These days you cannot get through a Congressional hearing without being reminded of that fact by way of the testimony of an Alexander Vindman or of a Fiona Hill. The second is that most seldom-considered and underrated human virtue – integrity – still occasionally resides in the human breast, and is indifferent to the irrelevance of which part of the planet your mother happened to be occupying when you were born.

The fact that Fiona Hill was born in England and not, say, Ukraine, will play somewhat less well at the propaganda mill of the shivering, superstitious, conspiracy-mongering camp of the alt-right. Fear not, however, it didn’t stop them from finding other ways to try to get to her. As Dr. Hill relates in her just-released testimony of October 14, “My entire first year of my tenure at the National Security Council was filled with hateful calls, conspiracy theories, which has started again, frankly, as it’s been announced that I’ve been giving this deposition, accusing me of being a [left-leaning billionaire philanthropist George] Soros mole in the White House, of colluding with all kinds of enemies of the President, and, you know, of various improprieties.” It is instructive to note that many of these conspiracy theories Dr. Hill relates come straight from Roger Stone, 🦀 Donald Trump’s 👹 Nixon-adulating acolyte, and  Alex Jones, he of the alt-right “InfoWars,” the propaganda machine of which Jones is the chief villain. Both Stone and Jones unreservedly love the Constitution when it comes to the Second Amendment and occasionally hate it when it comes to the First.

It is also instructive to note that, a full week before Matt Gaetz and company stormed the SCIF and ordered out for pizza, the transcript relates that 🐘 Congressman 😈 Gaetz attempted to illegally insinuate himself into Fiona Hill’s hearing. Chairman Adam Schiff had to repeatedly point out that, as Mr. Gaetz was not a member of any of the invited committees, he was not permitted to remain. Gaetz wouldn’t budge. It wasn’t until the Chairman threatened to deduct Gaetz’ time-wasting antics from the time allotted for questioning the witness by (actually invited) Republican members of the committee, that Gaetz relented and left the room – in an infantile pout.

What Gaetz pretends not to get and what everyone else bothers to think about and understand is, the reason for the closed door nature of these hearings is to ensure that witnesses do not collude with each other, either accidentally or on purpose. This practice bore some interesting fruit when, 15 days later, Alexander Vindman testified. The juxtaposition of Vindman’s and Hill’s testimonies is what made it necessary for Ambassador to the European Union Gordon D. Sondland to recently amend his testimony in order to avoid perjury charges. Notice the similarities in side by side statements.

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Vindman transcript, Page 29: “I heard him [🐵 Gordon D. Sondland] say that this had been coordinated with White House Chief of Staff Mr. 👹 Mick Mulvaney.”


Hill transcript, Page 69: “And Ambassador Sondland, in front of the Ukrainians, as I came in, was talking about how he had an agreement with Chief of Staff Mulvaney for a meeting with the Ukrainians if they were going to go forward with investigations. And my director for Ukraine was looking completely alarmed.”

In her testimony Dr. Hill quotes John Bolton referencing Rudy Giuliani as a “hand grenade,” the same piece of imagery that she contemporaneously related to Colonel Vindman, who verified it 15 days later in separate testimony:

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Hill transcript, Page 45: “His [John Bolton’s] reaction was pained. And he basically said — in fact, he directly said: Rudy Giuliani is a hand grenade that is going to blow everybody up. He did make it clear that he didn’t feel that there was anything that he could personally do about this.

Vindman transcript, Page 67: A. “She [Dr. Hill] said that he [Bolton] was upset with what Ambassador Sondland was attempting to orchestrate. And in her account to me, she did specifically say, you know, he was a live hand grenade, or something to that extent.”



Q. “Who was a live hand grenade?” 


A. “So, I guess, let me complete that logic. So that Ambassador Sondland was trying to orchestrate an investigation being called by Mayor Giuliani, who was a live hand grenade.”

Dr. Hill also consistently disavowed the conspiracy theory that Ukraine was involved in the 2016 American presidential elections, saying, “I am very confident based on all of the analysis that has been done — and, again, I don’t want to start getting into intelligence matters — that the Ukrainian government did not interfere in our election in 2016.” When Steve Castor, chief investigative counsel for GOP Rep. Jim Jordan, tried to get Dr. Hill to admit that a Ukrainian-U.S. Democratic Party operative was responsible for influencing the 2016 presidential election, Hill responded:

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Hill transcript, Page 336-337: “It does not amount to a large-scale Ukrainian government effort to subvert our elections, which is comparable to anything that the Russians did in 2016. And if we start down this path, not discounting what one individual or a couple of individuals might have done, ahead of our 2020 elections, we are setting ourselves up for the same kind of failures and intelligence failures that we had before. Look, and I feel very strongly about this. I’m not trying to mess about here. … And so you should, too, in terms of our national security.”

I mentioned at the top of this article the irrelevance of the place of Fiona Hill’s birth. But that tells only one part of the story. Though she and I may be worlds apart politically, I still respect and admire her, the way it was once commonly possible to respect and admire a Republican. Even more, I cannot help but feel a sting of pride, knowing that this courageous and forthright woman was born so close to where I am writing this just now.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/reason-testimony-devastating-to-donald-trump/22798/

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Let’s call this what it is
« Reply #169 on: November 11, 2019, 06:18:12 pm »

Let’s call this what it is

Shirley Kennedy | 10:30 am EST November 11, 2019
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No one reading this should be surprised that Donald Trump never actually released funds providing military aid to Ukraine. According to HuffPost, the funds were released by the State Department, after their lawyers told Trump his action was illegal. Remember the other day when Richard Shelby of Alabama claimed that what Trump did wasn’t “against the law” or “a crime?” Guess what, Shelby? If something is illegal, then it is very much a crime.

This information comes to light shortly before televised impeachment hearings are set to begin. This doesn’t make Trump look good at all. According to Bloomberg, this information was contained in a classified memo to Mike Pompeo, yet he and others silently stood by and pretended that Trump had done nothing wrong. As HuffPost states, this revelation quashes those claims. All while he tried to claim that he released the funds after a plea from Rob Portman (R-OH), the funds were released in spite of him. He is such a liar.

Mick Mulvaney, who both heads the Office of Budget Management and serves as acting chief of staff, admitted to Trump’s illegal activities and then tried to backpedal, but he never mentioned that it was his office that was charged with releasing these funds and that his office had to be overridden by the State Department. Taylor testified as to this unusual move by deciding “they were going to move forward with this assistance, OMB notwithstanding.” The information goes even further. According to HuffPost, Zelensky had scheduled an interview on CNN in September to announce the launch of the investigation, even though he opposed it, to secure the funding he needed and had been promised. As Eric Swalwell stated, let’s call Trump’s actions what they are: extortion.

Swalwell appeared on “Face the Nation” to discuss impeachment. Swalwell said that the House Intelligence Committee possesses evidence that will show that “President Donald Trump engaged in an extortion scheme to pressure Ukraine” to investigate Joe Biden. According to Swalwell, the testimony to date establishes what he claims, and he further points out that Trump was “using taxpayer dollars” to engage in his extortion. This is beyond belief. Trump is, without a doubt, the most ridiculously criminal person to ever occupy the White House, and he has no problem using our money to commit his crimes. Unbelievable! We have to believe that his comeuppance is near.

Even in the face of Trump’s obviously criminal behavior and activity, Eric Swalwell wants to ensure that Trump receives due process, though he certainly doesn’t deserve it. “It is important that these witnesses raise their right hands and take questions from both Republicans and Democrats. The president is going to get that,” said Swalwell. He continued, “This is America and we don’t just have railroading of justice.” After all Trump has done, Democrats are determined to treat him fairly, as they should. They, like the rest of us, know that they must do everything properly and above board, even when dealing with one who knows nothing of those concepts. That will be the only way to defeat Trump and rid us of the blight called his presidency.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/lets-call-this-what-it-is/22836/
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“Lock him up!” –     Donald Trump gets lambasted by New York City crowd during his Veterans Day speech

Bill Palmer | 3:00 pm EST November 11, 2019
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Donald Trump’s babysitters took him to a World Series game in Washington DC and a UFC fight in New York City, only to find that he got loudly booed at both venues. They then had to take him to an Alabama football game to find a crowd deranged enough to cheer him. Now Trump’s handlers have inexplicably taken him back to New York City for another public appearance. Let’s just say that it isn’t going well for him.

Perhaps Donald Trump’s diaper-changers thought they’d be able to prevent him from getting booed in New York City this time around if they insulated him within a Veterans Day event. But while the crowd was plenty supportive to the veterans and their parade, the crowd was every bit as vicious toward Trump as the traitor deserves.

Everyone from CNN to the AP is reporting that when Donald Trump gave his Veterans Day speech today at Madison Square Park, the crowd loudly booed him, and began chanting “Lock him up!” This is similar to what Trump faced at the World Series. Various people on social media have posted images of the words “Impeach” and “Convict” spelled in giant letters the windows of an apartment building that was within plain view of Trump’s speech.

The polls show that the majority of Americans want Donald Trump impeached and removed from office for his crimes – and this is before the televised impeachment hearings begin this Wednesday. Even as Trump’s presidency circles the drain, a grand jury in New York is in the process of criminally indicting him on state charges. “Lock him up” is indeed on its way to happening.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/lock-him-up-donald-trump-gets-lambasted-by-new-york-city-crowd-during-his-veterans-day-speech/22847/
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Why Won't American Media Cover 🦀 Trump's Corruption⁉️ 😠
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Why Won't American Media Cover 🦀 Trump's Corruption⁉️ 😠
15,157 views•Nov 8, 2019

Almost all media comes from the same six sources.
https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

Your so-called "librul" cable TV net?
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Re: 🌟 IMPEACHMENT SCORE 🌠
« Reply #173 on: November 12, 2019, 09:21:09 pm »
Why Won't American Media Cover 🦀 Trump's Corruption⁉️ 😠
15,157 views•Nov 8, 2019

Almost all media comes from the same six sources.
https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

Your so-called "librul" cable TV net?
It's Comcastic!


Yup. :(

Here's a bit of good news (thanks for this picture I borrowed from your news roundup today. 8)):




The Roger Stone trial just blew the lid off the Trump-Russia scandal

Bill Palmer | 4:41 pm EST November 12, 2019

Based on Steve Bannon’s testimony for the prosecution alone last week, it’s now fairly clear that the trial jury will convict Roger Stone on most or all of the criminal charges he’s facing. With little suspense remaining about the outcome, prosecutors have now moved on to exposing how Stone’s scheming with Russian cutout WikiLeaks went all the way to the top of the Donald Trump campaign.

Rick Gates, the Deputy Campaign Chairman for Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, took the stand today. Gates testified that he was with Donald Trump during the summer of 2016, when Trump got a phone call from Roger Stone. Gates couldn’t hear the entire phone call, but Politico says that when it was over, Trump told him that WikiLeaks was about to publish more stolen DNC emails aimed at helping the Trump campaign. Vox says that only about thirty seconds transpired between the end of the phone call and Trump’s pronouncement that more dirt was coming. CNN says Gates testified that two Secret Service agents were in the car with them and witnessed this exchange – which makes clear that Gates wasn’t simply making the whole thing up.

This is remarkable for a few reasons. First, it helps establish that Donald Trump lied about the phone call in his written responses to Robert Mueller, which is a felony on Trump’s part. Second, it makes clear that Roger Stone really was directly or indirectly communicating with WikiLeaks about the stolen emails in some fashion.

Third, this means Donald Trump was knowingly participating in a criminal conspiracy with Roger Stone, WikiLeaks, and the Kremlin involving the receipt of stolen goods (which is a felony), and an attempt at using those stolen goods to alter the outcome of the presidential election in Trump’s favor.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/roger-stone-trump-russia-lid-scandal/22876/
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Re: 🌟 IMPEACHMENT SCORE 🌠
« Reply #174 on: November 13, 2019, 06:12:12 am »

‘This is incredibly significant’: Legal expert says Roger Stone trial just revealed ‘real evidence’ against Trump

Former Trump campaign official Rick Gates on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump told him in 2016 that more damaging information would soon come out about Hillary Clinton shortly after he got off the phone with Roger Stone, who at the time was trying to secure details of future WikiLeaks releases.

This testimony seems to contradict written testimony from President Donald Trump in which he said he had no recollection of ever discussing WikiLeaks with Roger Stone during the 2016 campaign.

Lawfare Institute general counsel Susan Hennessey writes on Twitter that Gates’s testimony is “incredibly significant” and suggests that the president perjured himself in his written answers to the special counsel.

“People should resist the temptation to shrug this off as just confirmation of what we already knew,” she says. “This is real evidence of serious criminal wrongdoing by the president.”

Noting that Gates told the court that two Secret Service agents also witnessed the call between Stone and Trump, Hennessey says that this testimony could be much more than a simple “he-said-he-said” dispute.

“Not only does it demonstrate that Trump had advance knowledge of Wikileaks releases of hacked emails, it also shows additional witnesses who can confirm that the president gave false written answers to investigators in violation of the law,” she writes.

The tough part in proving that the president perjured himself, however, is the fact that he wrote he simply did not recall any such interactions with Stone instead of outright denying that they ever happened.

People should resist the temptation to shrug this off as just confirmation of what we already knew. This is real evidence of serious criminal wrongdoing by the president. https://t.co/bhm2YB5c4P

— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) November 12, 2019

This is incredibly significant. Not only does it demonstrate that Trump had advance knowledge of Wikileaks releases of hacked emails, it also shows additional witnesses who can confirm that the president gave false written answers to investigators in violation of the law. https://t.co/a6dPhe3pef

— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) November 12, 2019


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Re: 🌟 IMPEACHMENT SCORE 🌠
« Reply #175 on: November 13, 2019, 02:58:16 pm »

‘This is incredibly significant’: Legal expert says Roger Stone trial just revealed ‘real evidence’ against Trump

Former Trump campaign official Rick Gates on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump told him in 2016 that more damaging information would soon come out about Hillary Clinton shortly after he got off the phone with Roger Stone, who at the time was trying to secure details of future WikiLeaks releases.

This testimony seems to contradict written testimony from President Donald Trump in which he said he had no recollection of ever discussing WikiLeaks with Roger Stone during the 2016 campaign.

Lawfare Institute general counsel Susan Hennessey writes on Twitter that Gates’s testimony is “incredibly significant” and suggests that the president perjured himself in his written answers to the special counsel.

“People should resist the temptation to shrug this off as just confirmation of what we already knew,” she says. “This is real evidence of serious criminal wrongdoing by the president.”

Noting that Gates told the court that two Secret Service agents also witnessed the call between Stone and Trump, Hennessey says that this testimony could be much more than a simple “he-said-he-said” dispute.

“Not only does it demonstrate that Trump had advance knowledge of Wikileaks releases of hacked emails, it also shows additional witnesses who can confirm that the president gave false written answers to investigators in violation of the law,” she writes.

The tough part in proving that the president perjured himself, however, is the fact that he wrote he simply did not recall any such interactions with Stone instead of outright denying that they ever happened.

People should resist the temptation to shrug this off as just confirmation of what we already knew. This is real evidence of serious criminal wrongdoing by the president. https://t.co/bhm2YB5c4P

— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) November 12, 2019

This is incredibly significant. Not only does it demonstrate that Trump had advance knowledge of Wikileaks releases of hacked emails, it also shows additional witnesses who can confirm that the president gave false written answers to investigators in violation of the law. https://t.co/a6dPhe3pef

— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) November 12, 2019





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🦅 Impeachment inquiry hearing's first day is already revealing shocking testimony about 🦀 Trump's Ukraine bribery


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"I find the impeachment hearing tortuous."
« Reply #177 on: November 13, 2019, 10:00:51 pm »
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Mary Cecil 👍

I find the impeachment hearing tortuous. The imbalance of power between America & Ukraine is immense & of course they know not to divulge their true beliefs, they have to play the game. If someone has a metaphorical gun to your head, then of course you go along with whatever game's being played. They are supplicants after all. They're not going to protest about the gun at their head, it's understood & not mentioned, but it's there just the same. There's not going to be anything in writing, it's only the people who have to know. It's as if all human logic is tossed out. It's cause and effect. Things don't just happen, there's a reason. You'll never be able to prove it but sometimes what is not said is more important than what is.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/bill-taylor-surprise-bombshell-donald-trump-head/22905/
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Donald Trump has reached a whole new stage of his downfall
Bill Palmer | 9:09 am EST November 14, 2019
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On Wednesday, the State Department’s Bill Taylor publicly revealed that one of his staffers overheard a phone call between Donald Trump and Gordon Sondland which directly incriminated Trump in the Ukraine extortion scandal. Trump didn’t even bother to fight back on Twitter against this new revelation – and when he was asked about it, he revealed just how screwed he is.

When asked about it by a reporter, Donald Trump said this about his phone conversation with Gordon Sondland: “I don’t recall.” Wait a minute here, that doesn’t sound like a very Trump-ian response. In fact we did a search, and Trump has never tweeted these words in his life. These are the words you hear someone nervously and tepidly dishing out when they know they’re in such deep legal trouble, they’re finally busting out the phrase that their lawyers told them to use all along.

We’re not saying that the “I don’t recall” defense never works. It’s just that the Donald Trump we’ve come to know and hate would normally have responded to such an accusation by insisting that the phone call never happened, phones don’t exist, and Gordon Sondland isn’t even a real person. This new iteration of Trump is clearly afraid to assert that the call didn’t happen. That alone means he’s roughly as overwhelmed by the first day of televised impeachment hearings as his Twitter silence led us to believe.

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Adam Olp
You're giving 🐀 trump too much credit. He actually stated:

“I  don't recall at all. Not even a little bit,”... “I don’t know a thing about that. First time I heard it.”

Trump may have attempted to use the "I don't recall" excuse (per the direction of his lawyers I would guess), but his enormous ego simply wouldn't allow him to admit to an imperfection. He is claiming the phone call never happened at all. The witnesses are all lying.

Isaac Peres
Trust me, the dirty orange dotard will go further than not remembering the call ... he told the press the other day that he barely knows Gordon Sondland! He’s a lying sack of poop!

Mary Cecil
He's the spider who weaves the lies at the heart of his regime. What will become of a nation, when the lawmakers themselves, dismantle the very systems that provide justice and truth, and enable criminal behaviour of the most outragous kind, amongst themselves? They have no shame only defiance and outrage at being called out for it.

It's a pretense of democracy, it's a racket and the rot starts at the top, otherwise it couldn't happen. All that matters is holding power so they can exploit the people by accumulating wealth for each other, through the economy, and thrive on the back of it. Favors for favors, is the mantra they live by.

Exposure is the best weapon against them so the people understand the reality of how they are being abused by the very people who wrap themselves in flags and spout platitudes about how patriotic they are and exhorting the people to work hard lest they become a burden on the country.

Don't expect fairness from such predators. Trump's arrival is a symptom of protest by the people and he's stoking that and tearing the fabric of the nation apart, and that will lead to anarchy which will make the Hong Kong protests look like a picnic by comparison. You sow the seeds, you inherit the whirlwind.
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crazytown (5,944 posts)         Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:13 PM

AP source: 2nd U.S. official heard Trump call with Sondland
Source: PBS

WASHINGTON (AP) — A second U.S. embassy staffer in Kyiv overheard a key cellphone call between President Donald Trump and his ambassador to the European Union discussing the need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations,” The Associated Press has learned.

The July 26 call between Trump and Gordon Sondland was first described during testimony Wednesday by William Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. Taylor said one of his staffers overhead the call while Sondland was in a restaurant the day after Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that triggered the House impeachment inquiry.

The second diplomatic staffer also at the table was Suriya Jayanti, a foreign service officer based in Kyiv. A person briefed on what Jayanti overheard spoke to AP on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter currently under investigation.

Trump on Wednesday said he did not recall the July 26 call.


“No, not at all , not even a little bit,” Trump said.

Read more: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/ap-source-2nd-u-s-official-heard-trump-call-with-sondland



Geez. Was this on speaker phone?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142395030

Agelbert NOTE: It is going to be diffcult for the Republicans to 😈 trip up, or otherwise discredit, Suriya Jayanti's testimony. She is a lawyer.

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Jayanti is an attorney who joined the State Department in 2012 and was previously posted at the U.S. Embassy in Iraq. She has been stationed since September 2018 at the embassy in Kyiv where she helps coordinate U.S. business interests with the former Soviet republic’s energy industry.

Jayanti was in Washington last month and scheduled for a closed-door interview with impeachment investigators. But the deposition was canceled because of the funeral for former House Oversight Chair Elijah Cummings and has not yet been rescheduled.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/ap-source-2nd-u-s-official-heard-trump-call-with-sondland
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