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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #375 on: March 21, 2018, 09:35:42 pm »
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Why Electric SUVs Will Save America's Car Companies

MAR 19, 2018 JUAN COLE

SNIPPET:

So what Ford execs are telling Forbes is that they know we are in a gasoline price trough right now, and that they know it is highly unlikely to last. Another big run-up of prices is around the corner—more especially since demand from growing economies such as China and India could well grow significantly as people abandon bicycles for motorcycles and automobiles.

When the price of gasoline goes back up, demand for SUVs and Mustangs will plummet, and Ford will be in trouble.

But there is an escape hatch for Ford and other American automobile manufacturers.

The electric SUV? 

You nailed it.

Renewable electricity is the future, and it is highly deflationary because the fuel is free. Renewables now account for 18% of American electricity generation and for the bulk of *new* installations. In Iowa, wind alone will make 40% of the state’s electricity by 2020.

So as we go, over the next decade and a half, to a grid largely powered by renewables, we will escape the roller coaster ride of oil and gas prices and electricity will get cheaper and more reliable. In fact, some towns in Texas are opting for wind power because the utility can tell you the cost of wind for 25 years out (after installation and maintenance, basically zero). No one can tell you the cost of fossil fuels even 5 years out.

Utilities are waking up to the renewables revolution, which will happen long before anybody expects it, and, as Quartz reports, are now actively promoting the idea of electric vehicles, since EVs will be crucial to their own profit margins. They will have to slightly shift their business model, charging not for the cost of fuel to generate electricity but for the cost of construction, maintenance and distribution of wind and solar facilities. EVs will be what they have going for them with regard to growth. And electric SUVs will be even better for their bottom line.

So, an electric SUV like the 2020 Ford Mach 1 or an electric Mustang won’t be vulnerable to consumer fickleness and Ford can count on steady sales year after year, escaping a major challenge to its business model.

And when the future of multi-billion-dollar American corporations depends on something, they will make it happen. Automobile companies used to do sweetheart deals in back rooms with Big Oil. They were an obstacle to the growth of green energy.

But if Ford switches around and takes a stand that is earth- and climate-friendly, that is a bright ray of hope for the future of the planet.   



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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #376 on: March 30, 2018, 02:04:39 pm »

Best Way To Slash Urban Emissions & Energy Usage? Autonomous Electric Taxis Are The Answer
March 30th, 2018 by Steve Hanley



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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #377 on: April 03, 2018, 05:09:11 pm »
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April 2, 2018

BY ERIC LOVEDAY

6 Used Plug-In Electric Cars That Spend The Least Days On Dealer Lots

Six out of the 10 used cars that spend the least days on dealer lots are plug-in hybrids or pure electric vehicles, but there are reasons not often explained in connection to this.

Often you’ll see this posted as quickest selling used cars, but “selling” is not always happening here in the traditional sense.

Related – $40,000 Used CPO Model S EVs Overwhelm Tesla’s Pre-Owned Site

The average used car spends (in 2017) 33.4 days on the lot, but the top 10 quickest movers spend “only 70 to 80 percent of that amount of time, ranging from 22.2 to 26.1 days,” according to iSeeCars. The site adds:

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“Six of the top ten are alternative-fuel cars, with three electric cars and three plug-in hybrids.”

That would seem to indicate that used plug-in hybrids and EVs are hugely popular then, right? We’ll explain what’s going on here in a bit, but first ,let’s look at those 6 used plug-ins that are on the top 10 movers list:


The Tesla Model S, ranked tenth overall, but sixth among plug-ins on the list with an on-the-lot period of 26.1 days. iSeeCars stated:

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“Tesla’s popularity, along with the scarcity of the Model S on the used car market, is probably driving prices up while cars continue to sell quickly.”

Our research indicates this to be accurate. Used Model S sedans are often in short supply and sometimes a substantial price drop for CPO Teslas creates a boom in sales. Who doesn’t want a $120,000 car for $40,000 – $50,000?

 

5. Ford Fusion Energi

The Fusion Energi spends 26.1 days on the lot, which is the same as the Model S, but it’s a rounded figure, so iSeeCars actually puts it just ahead of the S in terms of days on the lot.

 


4. Nissan LEAF

The introduction of the new 2018 LEAF means that used older LEAFs have seen their value plummet to an average selling price of $11,703, according to iSeeCars. Without a doubt, this price cut leads to less time on lots and, in fact, at just 25 days, the LEAF moves into #6 overall and fourth among plug-ins.

 


3. Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid & Prime

This one is a bit of an outlier as it covers two generations of cars, but we read the tea leaves here and can see that the iSeeCars figures apply almost entirely to the older, first-generation Prius plug-in hybrid and not the current Prime.

The on-the-lot days for the Prius Plug-In Hybrid is 24.7 days.

iSeeCars states:

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“Plug-in Hybrids meet the requirements for California’s Green Clean Air Vehicle Decals, which allows drivers to use HOV lanes, and the distribution limit of these stickers was removed last year, possibly increasing the Prius Plug-in Hybrid’s popularity there,” said Ly.”



2. BMW i3

The BMW i3 ranked second overall and 2nd among plug-ins at 23.2 days on the lot. It’s average selling price of $23,603 is down considerably from last year’s $38,285, owing to the fact that lots of leased i3s are hitting lots now.


1.Fiat 500e

Topping the overall list and leading the way for plug-in is the Fiat 500e. It spends just 22.2 days on the lots. Its average selling price is crazy low at $9,055, a drop of 40.4 percent from $15,187 last year.

 

Closing

As we mentioned in the introduction:

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"Six of the top ten are alternative-fuel cars, with three electric cars and three plug-in hybrids.”

“That would seem to indicate that used plug-in hybrids and EVs are hugely popular then, right? We’ll explain what’s going on here in a bit”

First up, the plug-in hybrids. In California, with the green stickers now a thing of the past, these used examples that have that coveted sticker will surely move quickly off lots. Here’s the future green sticker outlook from the State of California:

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“Access to high-occupancy vehicle lanes for vehicles with green and white decals will expire January 1, 2019. Vehicles issued a green or white decal in 2017 or 2018 will be eligible to reapply for a decal in 2019 granting them access to high–occupancy toll lanes until January 1, 2022.”

So, get them while they last. This explains why the i3, Fusion Energi and Prius move quickly, but what about the LEAF and 500e?

Wholesalers for the 500e and super-low prices, which equate to amazing deals for the Nissan LEAF.

This leaves just the Tesla Model S, which largely sells quickly on its own, though those occasional CPO price cuts certainly reduced selling days here and there.

For more on 2017’s quickest selling used cars, see the source link below

Source: iSeeCars

Category: BMW, Fiat, Ford, Lists, Nissan, Tesla, Toyota

Tags: BMW i3, cpo, deals, featured, Fiat 500E, Ford Fusion Energi, Nissan LEAF, Tesla Model S, toyota prius, used cars


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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #378 on: April 05, 2018, 05:24:45 pm »
How Shenzhen, China, Built The World’s Largest Electric ⚡ Bus Fleet 

April 5th, 2018 by World Resources Institute

Originally published on WRI.

By Lu Lu, Lulu Xue and Weimin Zhou

SNIPPET:

Diesel buses—and the choking smog they spew—are a common sight in most cities. But not in Shenzhen, China.

Photo by Lu Lu/WRI China

The southeastern city, which connects Hong Kong to mainland China, announced at the end of last year that all of its 16,359 buses had gone electric. The city’s buses are the world’s first 100% electrified bus fleet, and its largest—bigger than New York’s, Los Angeles’s, New Jersey’s, Chicago’s and Toronto’s electric bus fleets combined.

How the city overcame obstacles like high costs, lack of charging station infrastructure and more provides lessons for other cities looking to electrify their bus lines.

Costs and Benefits of E-Buses

Diesel buses may comprise a small percentage of the vehicles on city roads, but they create an outsized environmental impact. In Shenzhen, diesel buses represent 0.5 percent of a city’s total vehicle fleet, but account for 20 percent of its transport emissions because they operate longer and drive more miles than private cars.

Switching to electric buses thus offers a vital path towards clean air. Cities and states around the world, such as London and California, are pursuing e-buses as a way to meet their air quality goals.

Yet shifting from diesel to e-buses isn’t easy. Electric buses cost 2 to 4 times1 more upfront than conventional diesel buses. They need the infrastructure to support consistent charging. And their batteries need to be replaced at least once during their lifetime, which can be costly. Battery replacement is nearly half of a vehicle’s price.


Shenzhen: The Making of the World’s Largest E-Bus Fleet

Yet Shenzhen was still able to cost-effectively electrify its buses. Four tactics helped: 💫 

Read more:

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/05/how-shenzhen-china-built-the-worlds-largest-electric-bus-fleet/
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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #379 on: April 05, 2018, 11:21:57 pm »
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By  Lorraine Chow

Apr. 04, 2018 02:16PM EST

Costa Rica's New President Vows 'Emancipation' From Dirty Transport 

Carlos Alvarado Quesada, the president-elect of Costa Rica, plans to continue the country's extraordinary stewardship of the environment with a pledge to decarbonize its transportation sector.

On Sunday, he promised that one day Costa Rica will "celebrate its emancipation from petrol and diesel in the transportation system, replacing them with clean energy," Climate Change News quoted him saying.

"That transformation would be the 'abolition of the army' of our generation," said Alvarado Quesada, 38, comparing the task to the country's disbanding of military forces in 1948, a point of national pride.

In recent years, Costa Rica has become a global green leader for deriving most of its electricity without using fossil fuels. Last year, the nation of 4.8 million people ran for 300 consecutive days on its renewable energy mix of hydropower, wind and geothermal. That impressive feat bested its 2015 record of 299 days of 100 percent renewable production. It also went 271 days using only renewable energy production in 2016.

Despite a 98 percent renewable power grid, its "Achilles heel" is its gasoline-dependent transportation sector. About half of its climate-changing emissions come from transport.

But the Costa Rican government has been working hard to green its fleet. Earlier this year, President Luis Guillermo Solís signed a law that eliminates sales, customs and circulation taxes for electric vehicles and allows them to use municipal parking facilities free of charge.

"This law will make it possible to transform Costa Rica's vehicle fleet in just a few years, from cars, cargo vehicles, trains and buses, replacing them with 100 percent electric vehicles," the outgoing president said then.

Alvarado Quesada from the ruling Citizen Action Party won more than 60 percent of the vote and will take office on May 8. According to Climate Change News, he campaigned on modernizing and electrifying an old diesel train, promoting research and development in hydrogen and biofuels by transforming the state-owned oil refinery, and banning oil and gas exploration in the country.

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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #380 on: April 07, 2018, 12:32:44 pm »
Lightning ⚡ Systems’ Electric Ford Transit Vans Begin Deliveries This Month

April 6th, 2018 by Steve Hanley

Lighting Systems, based in Colorado, has developed a complete battery electric drivetrain for the heavy duty Ford Transit vans. The upfit is offered as part of the Ford Quality Vehicle Modifier program, which keeps the original factory warranty intact for vehicles modified by approved companies like Lightning Systems, XL Hybrids, and Motiv Power Systems. Vans outfitted with the Lightning Systems electric powertrain will come with a 5-year/60,000-mile warranty from the company.

Lightning Systems electric Ford Transit

The company will take the new electric Transit vans on tour this month and deliver the first of them to Halo Event Group, a FedEx Ground contractor in New York City, and XPO Bus Sales in Los Angeles when the tour concludes. CleanTechnica’s Tina Casey is planning to test drive one of the vans in New York City later this month.

“The upcoming road show is a great chance for fleets to experience firsthand how quiet, smooth, and powerful the new LightningElectric is,” said Tim Reeser, chief executive officer for Lightning Systems. “It comes with all the benefits fleets expect from a Ford vehicle — interior comfort, warranty and top-class fit and finish — with the added benefits of a zero emissions electric vehicle like instant acceleration and lower maintenance costs.”

Lightning Systems says its certified upfit contractors can complete the conversion process in a few hours. It is working with Ford to obtain a rolling chassis with no drivetrain installed direct from the factory. Until that happens, the original drivetrain components are being repurposed. The conversion is available for all versions of the Ford Transit 350HD chassis, which is used in many commercial applications that involve passenger and cargo transportation.

The primary benefit for customers is a significant drop in operating and maintenance costs. The Lightning Systems Transit van has been rated at 61 eMPG in city use and 66 eMPG on the highway by the EPA. Transits with conventional powertrains are rated 13 city and 15 highway. In addition, the Lightning Systems Transit is eligible for a variety of federal, states, and local zero emissions incentives that may reduce the acquisition cost by $25,000 or more.

The electric Transit is available with either 50 miles or 100 miles of range. Recharging time is 30 minutes with DC fast-charging equipment and 6 hours with a Level 2 240 volt charger. Payload for the short-range version is 4,000 lbs and 3,000 lbs for the longer range model. Lighting Systems also manufactures hybrid and fuel cell conversions for the Ford Transit van in order to meet the needs of its customers.

“The LightningElectric is the full package,” Reeser added. “Engineering excellence combined with high-quality components validated by years of use in the industry, merged into a first-class, proven platform and supported by the Ford eQVM program and Ford dealer network for service and base-vehicle warranty. Add to this our industry-leading efficiency numbers, with the current government incentives landscape, and it is easy to see why we are already having to add to our production capacity.”



https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/06/lightning-systems-electric-ford-transit-vans-begin-deliveries-this-month/

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DBC Cookie • 20 hours ago
If electric delivery vans become popular, and I hope they do, night-time demand for electricity will increase. That's exactly the time solar is not producing energy, so even more batteries will be needed. At least with a personal car there is a chance it can be charged at work.


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Dan  DBC Cookie • 20 hours ago
New York just anounced a big off shore wind project. That will help with those night hours.


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Brent Jatko  Dan • 19 hours ago
Offshore wind (as opposed to the hot air coming from the politicians in Trenton) is coming to NJ as well.


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Mazter  DBC Cookie • 10 hours ago
Hydro, wind, bio-energy, CSP (in southern States), PHS.


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Andy • 7 hours ago
The problem with conversions is the suboptimal weight distribution. As can be seen from the diagram, all the additional weight is outside the wheel-base with no weight inside the wheel-base, where the ideal configuration is to have all the additional weight inside the wheel-base. Three dimensionally it also has additional weight above the axles, where the ideal is below, or at least centred on the axles.

Having said that, conversion of these vans might shame Ford into producing purpose built electric vans. In general, conversion is probably a better option than just scrapping what are otherwise desirable vehicles, when goverments begin imposing bans on ICE vehicles, so the existence of experienced conversion companies is a good thing. When i first started looking at getting an EV, 30 years ago, conversions were all i could consider.


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Martin  Andy • 2 hours ago
Well, if the corps will not build EV's, but people want there some, other ones will supply to the market, just look what the German post office did, when they were told an EV van could not be build.


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Steve Hanley  Andy • an hour ago
Good points, Andy. A New Flyer bus with the batteries mounted on the roof rolled over this week. Ruh Roh! I'm thinking of doing a story about that but don't want it to be too snarky.


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freedomev  Andy • 43 minutes ago
It doesn't have to be done that way. Fact is conversions is how a lot of Vans, trucks are going to become EVs.
As battery prices drop, EV motors, controllers already have the parts are low enough to just convert a company's ICE vans, trucks to serial or pure EV drive., not unlike what Workhorse has done for their drives.
Thus save the cost of a new EV van for about $15k as not enough new ones will be available a accounts do the numbers..
This is especially true for those with alum bodied vans which can go for 40-50 yrs and need engine replacing in 5-10 yrs. Thus saving the cost of a new ICE, etc and cutting running costs by 75% help pay for the conversion.


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Andy  freedomev • 11 minutes ago
Yes. The more the merrier.


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bwollsch • 2 hours ago
So we see it is possible to have a Ford electric delivery van. Why does this need to be outsourced to a third party? Why isn't Ford doing this internally now?


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Steve Hanley  bwollsch • an hour ago
Wish we had an answer to that question.


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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #381 on: April 14, 2018, 04:25:22 pm »
Volkswagen’s 1st Chinese EV — Built With JAC

April 14th, 2018 by Tim Dixon

Originally published on EV Obsession.


Pictures of Volkswagen’s first Chinese electric vehicle built via its joint venture with JAC recently surfaced from patent filings. The vehicle looks very similar to the iEV7S, with some minor cosmetic changes.


Rumors & Spy Shots 🕵️

The Volkswagen and JAC joint venture should be presenting its 3 models by the end of the quarter, according to Gasgoo, and spy images indicate the first car will be heavily based off of the iEV7S (pictured in the images below).


http://www.chooseauto.com.cn/xinche/guonei/277374.shtml

It is rumoured that these more affordable electric cars will be sold under the SEAT brand in China, which is supported by the square logo on the battery charge port. Although, other more recent rumors indicate it will be under a new brand, Sol.

The changes can be seen in the front and rear but it’s easy to see the JAC iEV7S under the SEAT styling.



The choice of building its electric vehicles from an existing lineup is smart, as JAC electric cars are well designed and doing this will drastically cut entry to market time and costs since the factories and suppliers are already working to make the iEV7S and can probably easily migrate based on demand.

The iEV7S costs 119,500 yuan ($19,000) after subsidies. It comes equipped with an electric motor with 116 horsepower / 270 Nm of torque, and it has a stated range of 280 kilometres (174 miles), but that is not a real-world range.

This is a good package for its price. It’s unlikely that Volkswagen will change too much for its own offering. It’s more likely to add features as the product and brand matures.

My Thoughts

My personal experience with the iEV7S and other iEVs makes me confident that this should meet Volkswagen goal — an affordable but well designed EV. Volkswagen’s first Chinese electric vehicle won’t be a Volkswagen-only EV effort, as illustrated well in the fuzzy screenshot of a Chinese Volkswagen site below. It is possible that this is more of a large-scale compliance car effort to avoid problems in the near term with China’s new electric vehicle policy.


Previous Related News


Volkswagen and JAC have been in the news for their joint venture. In July 2017, Volkswagen and JAC signed an agreement for a new joint venture to build electric cars in China in front of Chancellor Merkel and Premier Li Keqiang in Berlin. In November 2018, Volkswagen and JAC agreed to cooperate more deeply in the development of vehicles, design, product quality, and underlying technology.

What comes next? We don’t know, but we’ll be sure to report on it once we find out.

For updates, follow my Twitter or add me on LinkedIn.

Related: JAC iEV7S Review — Big Step Up From 2017 JAC iEV6S (CleanTechnica Review)

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🌞 Tim Dixon When not researching the Chinese electric car market, I am teaching in China. My interest in sustainable development started in University and it led me to work with Tesla Europe in the Supercharger team. I'm interested in science fiction, D&D, and travel.

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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #382 on: April 18, 2018, 01:31:33 pm »
Ola To Add 10,000 Electric ⚡ 3-Wheelers To Fleet Over Next 12 Months ✨

April 17th, 2018 by James Ayre

Despite the current and reportedly ongoing problems with its electric vehicle pilot in Nagpur, the India-based on-demand taxi service Ola is now planning to add a further 10,000 electric vehicles — 3-wheelers this time — to its fleet over the next 12 months.


The deployment will be made with backing from the investment group SoftBank Group, and represent part of the company’s plans to possess an electric vehicle (EV) fleet of at least 1 million by the year 2021.

In the press release on the matter, the firm noted that coordination with various state governments was planned for the deployment (as well as battery and auto manufacturers, of course).

“From cycle rickshaws to ‘shuttles’ and last-mile transport, three-wheelers continue to be a dominant form of daily transit for many people across the nation,” Ola stated. “Building on the pioneering EV pilot by the company in Nagpur, Ola believes electrification can improve outcomes for drivers, customers, and its business model.”


With regard to the EV pilot project in Nagpur, as we reported previously, a notable portion of the drivers of the EVs in question are apparently looking to return their cars and replace them with petrol/gasoline powered options again, due to overly long waiting times at fast-charging stations. Company reps have commented, though, that lessons have been learned…

“The EV (electric vehicle) program in Nagpur has provided Ola with significant insights into effectively managing vehicles, batteries, and operations,” a statement read. The company is now reportedly working to improve the charging situation.




Reuters provides more: “Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government is determined to promote electric vehicle use, starting with public transport and taxis, to combat rising pollution, and reduce the nation’s dependence on imported oil. India has also set a target to make all new vehicles electric by 2030.

“Ola, which operates in 110 Indian cities and has over a million driver partners, said the electric 3-wheelers will be introduced in 3 cities but did not name them. Three-wheelers are commonly used, especially in smaller cities, but electric variants were introduced only a couple of years ago.

“Ola did not say which manufacturers would provide the 3-wheelers or whether it would be the company making the purchases or whether the vehicles would be driver-owned. It also did not provide details of when it planned to introduce electric cars.”

Presumably, then, that means that specifics have yet to be firmly decided upon on those counts.

Here’s Ola’s closing paragraph in this week’s press release:

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“Ola is in discussion with several state governments to create an appropriate policy environment to deploy electric three wheelers.  The company is also talking to OEM partners and EV innovators globally to bring vehicles on the road in a planned and phased manner.  With the addition of 10,000 vehicles across three cities this year, Ola is quickly set to become one of the largest EV fleet operators in the world.”

To learn more about the new initiative, go to: mission-electric.in

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« Reply #383 on: April 23, 2018, 04:39:01 pm »

Tesla Model S Crushes Large Luxury Car Competition In USA

April 22nd, 2018 by Zachary Shahan

SNIPPET 1:

In July of 2017, I put together a comparison of Tesla Model S sales and other large luxury car sales in the USA. An update has long been due.

The story was very much the same in the first part of 2018 as it was in the first part of 2017. The Tesla Model S sat comfortably at #1 in this category.

SNIPPET 2:

This isn’t a blip in history. Rather, it’s been the story in the US large luxury car market for years.

Someone new to the topic might wonder why the Model S performs so well and outsells historic giants of the market such as the Mercedes S-Class and BMW 7 Series. Each individual buyer is different, but in aggregate, it seems that would be due to the Tesla’s superior performance, advanced tech (esp. Autopilot), smooth and fun electric driving experience, convenient home charging, attractive design, superb safety (top of the market), and zero emissions. However, we don’t have any definitive research on the matter, so we’re left to speculate based on anecdotes and some consumer research.

Tesla Model 3 Following Suit
 


Full article with more eye opening graphics:

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/22/tesla-model-s-crushes-luxury-car-competition-in-usa/
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« Reply #384 on: April 25, 2018, 07:55:12 pm »
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APR 23, 2018

Could Saudi Plans Hugely Expand Electric Car Market and Save Tesla? ???

By Juan Cole

SNIPPET:

In March of this year, US plug-in EV sales were up 42% year on year!

EVs don’t rise or fall on Tesla — Nissan and the Chinese brands are arguably way ahead, and the Chevy Bolt is comparable to the Tesla 3. But it is unarguable that a price spike in petroleum would certainly help the company get past its current Tesla 3 production problems by substantially bolstering investor and consumer confidence.

$100 a barrel petroleum would push sales of EVs up by an order of magnitude. And here’s the kicker: higher oil prices in the window of 2018-2024, the last six years when gasoline cars are (on the surface) cheaper to buy, would offset that apparent advantage of internal combustion engines, essentially moving up parity several years if you figure in fuel costs.

Saudi Arabia knows all this. They know that their oil will likely be worthless in as little as 15 years, but that most investors do not realize that the petroluem industry is in a raft about to go over the edge of Niagra Falls.

Outside the Oil Oligarchy 🐉🦕🦖 that is the United States 🦀, the impact of an oil price run-up could be even more dramatic.

China produced 680,000 EVs last year, with plans to do 2 million/yr in only a couple of years. High gasoline prices will accelerate China’s transition.

Likewise, the Indian government desperately wants to get off gasoline and higher oil prices and cheaper EVs will speed that process up. EV sales are expected to see double digit growth in India over the next few years. This is not just a matter of market forces.

China and India together account for 40% of the world population.

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https://www.truthdig.com/articles/could-saudi-plans-hugely-expand-electric-car-market-and-save-tesla/

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Good article, however the logic that rising oil prices will effect Tesla’s volume does seem to questionable IMO. With a backlog of Model 3 reservations of 400,000+ units you could probably double the price of oil, or even halve the price of oil, and it wouldn’t have much impact on that particular company. Tesla wil be insulated from oil price swings in either direction for the next several years. At least.

Having said that, overall EV sales should eventually get a boost from higher oil prices just as you indicate, but unfortunately even that may be delayed a few extra years because the legacy manufacturers are still dragging their feet when it comes to making EV’s. They all seem to have decided to sacrifice future market share for short-term profits. Again.

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Agreed. There is another factor that is of utmost concern to the fossil fuel industry, though they go out of their way to avoid discussing it in public. That is the FACT that crude oil refining is inelastic in regard to product percentages. IOW you will always get about the same percentage of heavy lubricants, lighter lubricants, fuels from diesel on up to gasoline and then the gases like propane and methane, along with al the poisonous VOCS that go up the smoke stack that the EPA 😈 is trying desperately to ignore.

Pollutants aside for a moment, the crude oil feed stock for plastics, medicines, fertilizers, paints, etc. represents less than 6% worldwide of all crude oil products. THAT is a drop in the bucket and never was, regardless of the lies and propaganda from the fossil fuel industry, a big part of the profit equation. It has ALWAYS been about getting us to BURN FUEL.

Consequently, a vanished market for gasoline and diesel means bankruptcy for the fossil fuel industry. 

Those polluting fuels and gases will always be produced when crude oil is refined. They can't just flush them into rivers like Rockefeller did in Pennsylvania in the 19th century before he created a market for his pollutants by saving Ford from bankruptcy in return for having the Ford carburetors run on gasoline INSTEAD of ethanol (which was the original plan by Ford).

Gasoline is what made Rockefeller rich. Without a market for gasoline or gases, the huge profit from selling them is converted into a massive unavoidable cost of handling over 40% per barrel of refined crude as hazardous waste. ⁉️

The fossil fuel industry CANNOT survive unless it keeps talking us into burning fossil fuels, period. They know that, but they do not want anybody else to know that. 🕵️

The inelastic oil refinery product percentage (i.e. what comes out of those cracking towers after a de-oxygenated barrel of crude [de-oxygenating crude is a massively energy intensive process that they have deliberately left out of ALL the calculations for energy return on energy invested for crude oil]) is the elephant 🐘 in the fossil fuel business model room.

The Fossil Fuel Industry "business model", when all the energy and pollution costs are considered, was always unjustified. They got away with it through massive welfare queen subsidy hand-outs from government while using the air, water and land as pollution dumping areas for over a century. It's time to stop this grand larceny and planet scale pollution.


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Tesla’s Moats — Tesla Can Do What Other Car Companies Only Dream About, And Why

April 27th, 2018 by Guest Contributor

Originally posted on Cars With Cords.

By Patrick C

A moat surrounds a medieval castle to protect from attackers

In modern business parlance, a moat is something that protects a business from competition or gives it an advantage. A moat could be a trade secret, patented product or process, or an asset that represents a significant capital investment. A moat could be a partnership, an exclusive license, a government granted limited-monopoly, or any barrier to a resource or market. The term was popularized by Warren Buffet. He covers moats in his book Buffett Beyond Value and says that he doesn’t invest in businesses unless they have one or more moats; otherwise, it’s a quick race to the bottom.

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“In business, I look for economic castles protected by unbreachable moats.” ~Warren Buffett

This story is about Tesla’s moats, but I don’t mean to imply that Buffett would invest in Tesla. Tesla is far from the value investments of the Berkshire Hathaway portfolio. Rather, Buffett’s comments are to demonstrate the importance of moats. Morningstar even has a guide called Why Moats Matter. Understanding the moats a business employs is clearly important to understanding the business and its future.

In no particular order, here’s a list of Tesla’s moats: mall stores, direct sales, Supercharger network, brand loyalty, EV mindshare, mission-driven, Tesla Energy, Panasonic partnership, rockstar status CEO, electric motor technology & manufacturing, battery technology & manufacturing, software development, connected cars, AI, talent magnet, fleet learning, SpaceX, vertical integration, over-the-air updates, mobile ranger service, Gigafactory, investor expectations, first mover advantage.

These moats enable Tesla to do things that other automakers cannot even consider. Some of these moats are wider than others. Let’s group them and look at them in more detail. If you know of any Tesla moats missing from the list, let me know below.

Stores & Direct Sales

When you buy a Tesla product, you buy it from, well, Tesla. This might seem like a silly statement, but that is not how most car companies operate. Traditional automakers have dealerships. Dealerships are not owned by the manufacturer, they locally owned businesses. In most states, the automakers are legally forbidden from owning a dealership. Dealerships are middlemen. This means that when you pay for a car, you must pay a price that allows both the manufacturer and the dealership to make a profit on the sale.

Tesla has stores in shopping malls. This allows you see their cars in a familiar and comfortable place. The Tesla employees in the store are not commissioned, salespeople. They are there to answer questions, not to “get you into a deal today”. There is no haggling, the cars have a Hobson’s Choice price; Take it, or leave it. You pay the same price that Elon Musk’s mom would pay, the same price that any Tesla board member would pay. This matches well with the online shopping model that Gen Y and younger are accustom to.

* Moats: Mall stores, direct sales.

Connected Cars & Over-the-Air Updates

All of Tesla’s cars have wireless service. The original cars had 3G, today they have 4G LTE, and when 5G is the standard they’ll come equipped with that (or maybe something better). This connectivity allows the navigation system to have up-to-date maps and real-time traffic. Every smartphone has had this feature for over a decade, but in cars, this is still a rarity. In other cars, maps could be years out date and/or cost hundreds of dollars to update.

The maps and traffic data is nice, but the real advantage of a connected car is software updates. Tesla is constantly improving their software (more on software later) and when they have a new version, you click a couple buttons on the screen, and your car is updated to the latest and greatest. This keeps the ownership experience exciting. You can recapture a bit of the new car smell when a new feature or easter egg is added.

* Moats: Connected cars, OTA updates, refreshed software keeps cars relevant.

No Dealerships

A dealership’s agenda, might not be the same as the manufacturer’s and it is not likely the same as yours.

We just discussed over-the-air updates. These are an example where the dealership might have a different interest than you or the manufacturer. Over-the-air updates are convenient for owners, you just wake up to a vehicle with updated software. Well, dealerships in many states can prevent a manufacturer from implementing this feature in their cars. Why? Because that is considered “servicing the vehicle” and the dealership agreement guarantees that all manufacturer service is contracted to the dealership. The dealerships want you to bring your car in often so they have a chance to upsell you on service or to a newer car. If a manufacturer pushes updates over-the-air, they might find themselves in a lawsuit or two with the dealership associations as Tesla has been, albeit for different reasons.

Dealerships make most of their money from service. Anything that prevents a car from coming into the shop is a missed opportunity for them to profit from the customer. Electric vehicles already require far less maintenance than gas cars, allow wireless software updates too and there is even less of a reason for the car to visit the dealership on a regular basis.

With Tesla owning their own stores and service centers, Tesla is able to set their own direction without a complex web of multi-state dealership agreements. This gives them flexibility and allows them to define the ownership experience for their vehicles.

* Moat: Ownership of customer experience, no margin sharing.

Panasonic Partnership

Tesla and Panasonic are partners in battery and solar technology and manufacturing.

Full, very thorough, excellent article:

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/27/teslas-moats-tesla-can-do-what-other-car-companies-only-dream-about-and-why/
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Can Kentucky Drive America’s Clean Transportation Future?

April 29th, 2018 by Cynthia Shahan

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“The Ohio Valley has higher levels of pollution the same places where you have higher levels of mortality.” This relationship holds true all over the world. These health problems are awakening people all over the world, such as Silicon Holler and a group of citizens with resolute energy driving cleantech change in Kentucky.


I like the personalities in the film. They are focused on bright ideas, pragmatic action, and bright lives. As these “radical cowboys” show, all types of people embrace change. These Kentuckians form one notably eclectic electric group. Here’s more on the organization:

“EVolve KY (a grassroots non-profit group of Kentucky’s electric vehicle owners) is leading the state’s clean transportation revolution by installing fee free community chargers, educating the public in innovative ways, and demonstrating that EVs are fun, economical, and planet-friendly. Meanwhile, from coal museum roofs to former mountaintop removal mining sites, renewables and world-changing battery technology are starting to take off … in coal country! With humor and heart, EVOLVE weaves together inspiring stories of transformative work by passionate people in unlikely places.”

Folks can purchase a DVD documentary from EVolve KY via their website — www.evolveky.org — or can watch it on Vimeo by purchasing it via the button in the top-right corner of the preview above. You can also get information on public screening licenses there if you want to host a screening.

Related Stories:

Tesla Blows Minds Deep In Kentucky

Kentucky Coal Museum Switches To Solar Power

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/29/can-kentucky-drive-americas-clean-transportation-future/

Agelbert CHUCKLE: It made my day when I saw the Kentucky EV owner say he had a V8 in his car. He opened the hatch and there was a bottle of V8 juice! 
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Electric Car Jitters May Drive Oil To $300 A Barrel

April 30th, 2018 by Steve Hanley

Opinions are like noses — everybody has one. An opinion is usually worth precisely what you paid for it — sometimes less. But if your name is Pierre Andurand and you are one of the best known oil hedge fund managers in the world, your opinion may actually be worth listening to. Andurand was one of many commodity fund managers who met with Saudi oil minister Khalid Al-Falih last July as OPEC was considering whether to raise oil production.

oil pricesAndurand tweeted on April 30th that concerns about the impact of electric vehicles on future demand for oil was limiting investment in projects with long lead times. “So paradoxically these peak demand fears might bring the largest supply shock ever,” he wrote. “If oil prices do not rise fast enough, $300 oil in a few years is not impossible.”

That was enough to get the people at Bloomberg interested. They report that many in the oil business believe higher prices might be bad for the world economy but Andurand and Al-Falih disagree. “So no, $100 oil will not kill the economy,” Andurand tweeted. “And we need +$100 oil to encourage enough investments outside of the U.S.”

A spokesperson for Andurand Capital Management declined to discuss the tweets — which have since been deleted — with Bloomberg. But Al-Falih is on record as saying recently that prices could rise above their current level of about $75 a barrel without doing economic damage. “We have seen prices significantly higher in the past, twice as much as where we are today.”

He notes the price of Brent crude rose to $150 a barrel in 2008 without dire consequences [<sarcasm> if you ignore the global economic crisis that followed from the collapse of the banking industry, wiping out trillions of dollars in wealth worldwide </sarcasm>].

Crystal balls are notoriously inaccurate, so Andurand’s warning may be just background noise that can be safely ignored. But we know money is what moves markets. Politicians aren’t having much luck enacting carbon taxes to offset the government benefits fossil fuel companies enjoy, so $300 a barrel oil might actually be a boon to the renewable energy and electric vehicle industries, as people rush to “green” solutions that are cheaper.

Imagine what fun it would be to see acres of used Stupid Duty pickup trucks for sale on dealer lots as manufacturers race to bring efficient cars back to their showrooms  ;D — the very same efficient cars they are busy running away from today. Some super expensive oil might be the ultimate weapon for “Keep It In The Ground” advocates.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/30/electric-car-jitters-may-drive-oil-to-300-a-barrel/

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The higher prices go the faster the take up of EVs.
About £1.22 a litre where I am (UK) so about £5.53 or $7.61 a gallon.
Starting to see an awful lot more EVs on the road now.
Putting prices up will be shooting themselves in the foot.

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As oil prices keep rising, people will give up their pickups first and settle for a crossover which is also very functional with lot of interior space.

Then they will start buying affordable hybrids and finally the plugins, only the share of Oil will drop and nothing will happen to World's economy.

^3 

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Agreed. Also, the entire rationale for having a pickup truck is based on carrying loads of all types conveniently. With a tow trailer the same size as a pickup truck bed, there is zero reason for owning a pickup unless you carry loads every single day. Over 80% (and probably higher than that) of pickup truck owners in the USA DO NOT carry loads more than once a week.

The whole pickup truck fad, endemic to the USA where more pickup trucks are sold than just about any other vehicle 👎, is an unnecessary waste of energy because you are moving extra weight for no other reason than the convenience of an occasional use truck bed. 👎👎

You don't need one unless you carry pickup truck bed sized loads every day as part of your job. 
 
Hey pickup truck owners, get an EV and a tow trailer to carry your loads. It will save you a lot of money 💵 😉 and help clean up the environment too! 😇

This trailer sold at Home Depot even tilts to dump the load. http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png


Detail K2 1639 lb. Payload Capacity 4.5 ft. x 7.5 ft. Utility Trailer with Bed Tilt and Collapsing Ends to Extend Bed to 12 ft.
Model#  MMT5X7
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$1,199.00

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Kia Takes The Wraps Off[color=green] Niro Electric SUV[/color][/size]

May 4th, 2018 by Steve Hanley

The automotive world is crazy for sport utility vehicles. But as of this moment, there are almost no electric SUV offerings available other than the Tesla Model X. Jaguar says its I-Pace electric SUV will be available soon. Porsche is working on a variant of the Mission E called the Cross Turismo. But when it comes to an electric SUV that the average drivers can afford, there just aren’t any outside of China.

Kia Niro Electric SUV

At the CES 2018 show, Kia showed off a battery-powered concept of the Niro, which is already available as a hybrid or plug-in hybrid. Now Kia has released the first official photos of the Niro Electric SUV, which will go on sale in Korea later this year before becoming available in Europe and  North America next year. It will be featured at the Paris auto show this September.


The Kia Niro Electric will offer customers two battery options — a 64 kWh version with 380 kilometers of range and a 32 kWh version with 240 kilometers of range. The smaller battery option will be more affordable and should suit the daily driving needs of most people. Pricing for both versions has not yet been announced.
While the company’s press release goes on at some length about its chunky steel wheels and sporty alloy wheels, the real news for EV aficionados is that the battery used is a lithium polymer unit. Lithium polymer replaces the liquid electrolyte used in conventional lithium ion batteries with a polymer gel. Such batteries typically offer more power per kilogram. While no details about the battery in the Niro Electric are available at this time, the lithium polymer battery used in the Kia Soul Electric is sourced from SK Innovation and has an energy density of 200 watt-hours per kilogram.


Tesla fans will be happy to see the front end treatment of the Niro Electric looks similar to the clean, modern look pioneered by Tesla. There was a time when the grille was the most important design feature of a car. A few years from now, cars with grilles will start to look a bit odd.

The look of the Niro Electric is a collaboration between the Kia design studio in California and the company’s principal design studio in Namyang, Korea. The finished product is just as appealing as the hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions of the car.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/05/04/kia-takes-the-wraps-off-niro-electric-suv/
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Hamburger Hochbahn Orders 20 Mercedes-Benz Citaro Electric ⚡ Buses

May 4th, 2018 by James Ayre

The Hamburg (Germany) based bus operator Hamburger Hochbahn AG has placed an order for 20 units of the new all-electric Mercedes-Benz Citaro city buses.


As revealed in a Daimler press release, this firm’s order is expected to be delivered sometime before the end of 2018.

The head of Daimler (Mercedes-Benz) Buses, Till Oberwörder, commented on the news: “The first major order for our fully electrically powered, emission-free Citaro has been received even before the official premiere, demonstrating the confidence transport operators have in our concept for electromobility in urban public transport. With the Citaro, we are bringing a major component on the way to locally emission-free bus traffic to market.”

The comment about the order occurring before the official premier is a reference to the fact that the all-electric version of the Mercedes-Benz Citaro isn’t slated to officially enter production until late 2018.

Here’s more from a press release (via Green Car Congress): “The drive system of the new all-electric Citaro is based on the ZF AVE 130 electric portal axle with electric motors at the wheel hubs, as previously deployed in other variants of the Citaro. Peak motor output is 2 x 125 kW, while torque is 2 x 485 N·m.

“The modular battery packs offer a total capacity of up to 243 kWh. The batteries are cooled to the ideal temperature for maximum charge, maximum usable capacity, and a long service life. The batteries are charged at a connector in the bus depot. After the series start-up of the Citaro, further variants for intermediate charging en route will become available.”

As the model is based closely on the best-selling Mercedes-Benz Citaro, sales should be strong. Notably, Hamburger Hochbahn has itself purchased more than 1,000 Citaro platform buses to date, so this initial order of the electric version should lead to further sales at a later point.

An order of 20 electric buses in Europe or the United States is news worth celebrating. It’s a big order. But as regular readers of CleanTechnica know, it would be a small mound of sand on the beach in the Chinese electric bus market. It’s good to see Daimler getting into a competitive market that Proterra has long been leading in over in the USA and BYD has been leading in globally. However, it’s questionable whether Daimler is actually prepared to compete. Hamburg, as we’ve pointed out, is quite a captive customer for Mercedes-Benz buses. How about São Paulo? London? Tokyo?

Competitiveness in a market like buses generally comes down to a couple of things — economies of scale and better technology. Does Mercedes-Benz have superior technology for electric buses? Does it have greater economies of scale to take advantage of for electric buses?

Year   China Electric Bus Sales
2011           1136
2012           1904
2013           1672
2014        12,760
2015        94,260
2016      115,700
2017        89,546
TOTAL   316,978
 

The good thing for Daimler is that many places in Europe would prefer a Mercedes-Benz bus over a Chinese one. That gives it a leg up. The challenge in Europe is that development doesn’t compare to a place like China, so bus fleets aren’t rapidly expanding. New bus orders are primarily to replace buses, and that is only needed to a limited degree in European cities. So, with all of that context in mind, an order for 20 electric buses is a notable success for Daimler — hence the press release.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/05/04/hamburger-hochbahn-orders-20-mercedes-benz-citaro-electric-buses/
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