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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2015, 01:11:37 am »
https://youtu.be/kLHhyENNt2I

Drive Electric VT: It’s Time to Plug In, Vermont!


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Watch our video to learn how you can drive farther and cleaner with electricity. Vermont, it's time to plug in!

Driving an all-electric or a plug-in hybrid vehicle means you:
- Spend the equivalent of $1 per gallon of gas
- Charge at home easily
- Enjoy access to 60 electric vehicle charging stations in Vermont
- Have a comparable car payment (and lower fuel costs)
- Drive safely—plug-in vehicles have excellent traction for winter driving


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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2015, 03:43:11 pm »
e-Golf on my wish list.  ;D


I checked out how the lease works here in Vermont in regard to the tax credit and sales tax. 

The lease holder, the bank, gets the $7.500 tax credit. The person that leases the car has to pay sales tax (6%) on the portion (around 2/3 of vehicle value) when they begin the lease. If they buy the car at lease termination, they then pay 6% on the buyback. For someone that pays low income tax, a lease is, therefore, the only way to get the benefit of the full $7,500 tax credit. When you do a buy back, you are not the first purchaser of the vehicle. Only the first purchaser is entitled to the tax credit. Sometimes a dealer will be the "first purchaser" on a floor model that is used for demonstration and test drives. You might negotiate a very good deal on one of those because they are technically "used" cars, even though they have less than 100 miles on them.

The Attorney General of Vermont
has some additional tips for people considering a lease.

Here's a snippet:

The Language of Leasing


If you’re considering leasing, you need to know the terms used in a lease transaction. They are very different from the terms used in a sale, which is one reason why leasing can be so confusing.

Capitalized cost is the price on which the lease is based. It is the price the bank or finance company pays the dealer, plus extras such as service contracts and insurance. You should be aware that this figure is negotiable, just as the price of a car you are buying is negotiable. The lower the capitalized cost, the lower your monthly payments and the lower the overall cost of the lease.

Money Factor
(also known as the lease rate) is similar to the interest rate on a car loan. It is a source of confusion for consumers, because it appears as a much lower rate. To compare it to an interest rate, you have to multiply it by 2400 (for example, a money factor of .00310 is the same as an interest rate of 7.4%).

Ask what the "money factor" is. Dealers are not required by law to disclose this figure to you. However, it is an important piece of the picture, so you should ask what it is and determine if it is competitive. You may be able to negotiate a lower rate and thus bring down your monthly payment. If the dealer won’t disclose the money factor to you, you probably don’t want to lease your car there.

Tips for Smart Consumers - Car Leasing -  A Message from Attorney General Bill Sorrell

Thinking about a new electric car, but not sure where to begin? We’d suggest you consider whether you want to purchase or lease your new plug-in vehicle.
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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2015, 12:00:49 am »
The Key to Cheap Electric Cars? Ditch the Steering Wheel   
Arcimoto SRK

Mark Frohnmayer loves to drive. But he’s never quite been able to square that passion with his environmental concerns. He just found the idea of using a gas-powered, two-ton contraption to carry a single person a few miles each day absurd. Eight years ago—before the Tesla Roadster hit the market—he decided what he needed was a small electric car that could reliably carry him around his hometown of Eugene, Oregon and was fun to drive. He couldn’t find one, so he decided to design his own.

The strange thing to Frohnmayer was that all the technology for building a practical, cheap, and safe electric vehicle were available. But no one had put all of the pieces together, despite the fact the potential market for such a product was huge, given the surging demand for cars in emerging markets like India and China. With Tesla focusing on the luxury market, he saw a big need for an affordable electric vehicle.

It turned out, of course, that that was easier said than done. Over the past eight years Frohnmayer’s startup Arcimoto has shown off several quirky three-wheeled prototypes—Firefly star Nathan Fillion famously pre-ordered one in 2010 and talked it up on Conan a couple years ago. But the team struggled to hit on the perfect design that would enable them to bring the vehicle to the mass market. Now, eight years later, Frohnmayer and company have finally prototyped a “car” that he believes meets all his criteria and will sell for less than $12,000. The key to creating something that was cheap, efficient and comfortable, it turned out, was ditching the steering wheel.


Arcimoto SRK


The result of those efforts is the SRK, a two-seat, three-wheeled electric vehicle that looks like the spawn of a golf cart and an ATV. The company plans to begin selling it in late 2016 or early 2017. It’s officially classed as a motorcycle, which means it doesn’t have to meet the same rigorous safety standards as a four-wheeled car. But unlike a motorcycle with only two wheels, you don’t need to learn anything new to drive it (though you might need a motorcycle license in some states). It also has a protective shell, and, for an additional fee, it can be upgraded to a fully enclosed model. The prototype’s 12 kilowatt lithium ion battery has a range of about 70 miles, and can hit speeds of at least 85 miles per hour. And it can hit them fast: it can go from zero to 60 miles per hour in only 7.5 seconds. It’s only 105 inches long, which means you can park it like a motorcycle, but it’s tall enough for Frohnmayer, who stands 6-feet-4-inches tall to sit in it comfortably.

You won’t be able to use for family vacations or hauling lumber, but it should do just fine at commuting to work, picking up groceries, delivering pizzas, or just giving a friend a lift. For urban drivers—especially those in the dense, growing of India and China—it can cover a lot of what you’d need to do. And, yes, it’s a heck of a lot of fun to drive.

The Clever Version

Of course the scrapyard of history is littered with the burnt out husks of failed electric car companies, and three-wheeled vehicles have a particularly bad record. But Tesla Motors co-founder Marc Tarpenning, an informal advisor to Arcimoto, says that Frohnmayer and his team’s sense of design sets them apart from the pack.

“I get an almost endless stream of people wanting to talk about their latest thing,” he says. “I have seen a whole bunch of these three-wheel electric vehicles, but this happens to be the most clever version.”

Before starting Arcimoto, Frohnmayer’s only experience in the automotive industry were a couple of summer internships at General Motors while studying computer science and electrical engineering at the University of California, Berkeley. He also spent some time interning for an electronics company in Indianapolis but decided large engineering teams weren’t for him.

'I have seen a whole bunch of these three-wheel electric vehicles, but this happens to be the most clever version.'
—Tesla Co-Founder Marc Tarpenning


After graduation, he moved home to Eugene and landed a job at the video game company Dynamix before co-founding GarageGames in 2000. The team sold the company in 2007, and he started Arcimoto with his cut of the sale.

Fortunately, Frohnmayer, who now commutes to work on a OneWheel electric skateboard, doesn’t have to go it alone. While Oregon might not sound like a great place to start a car company, but it has been home to just enough automakers—such as Freightliner Trucks and RV company Country Couch—that he had a pool of qualified engineers and industrial designers Frohnmayer could tap to help turn his vision into real, drivable prototypes.

Only the Essentials

Where Tesla has focused on adding everything a driver could possibly want, Arcimoto has worked to subtract everything that isn’t absolutely essential. The trick is determining just what is absolutely necessary and what isn’t. And for that, the team has turned to extensive market research.

The original SRK design was too minimal. It would only carry one person and had no protection from bad weather. According to Arcimoto’s consumer research, the minimum requirements for a personal vehicle are a range of at least 60 miles, protection from the elements, at least two seats and enough oomph to drive on the highway. If the price is right, people are willing to give up stereos, cup holders, air conditioning, and giant touchscreen displays. That price, it turns out, is $12,000.

One of the first issues the team had to solve in the early days was safety. To keep costs down, the SRK would have to be a three-wheeler. Although Frohnmayer says that proposed legislation to increase regulation on three wheel vehicles wouldn’t apply to the SRK, the company still needs to ensure that its vehicles are safe—especially given the lousy reputation of vehicles with three wheels.

To deal with this, Arcimoto centered the battery and drivetrain at the bottom of the vehicle, much as Tesla Motors has done with the Model S. Of course, the final versions of the SRK will have to go through rigorous testing to verify their safety, but Tarpenning says most of this can be modeled in advance. “It’s all about where you put the center of mass,” he says. “If you put in the right place and get the balance right it’s going to be real stable.”

The Breakthrough

Few companies have been able to pack even that meager feature list into a vehicle for that price. The Zero electric motorcycle doesn’t provide protection from the elements. Toyota i-Road only seats one person. The Daimler Smart Electric costs over $20,000. At $8,000, the four-door Renault Twizy is a contender, but so far it’s only for sale available in Europe or as an hourly rental in San Francisco (and the US version’s speed is capped at 25 miles per hour).1

It took seven years for Arcimoto to develop a prototype that included all of what it wanted. Even then, Frohnmayer was unhappy with the results. The SRK was still a bit bigger than the team had hoped. It was also uncomfortable to get in and out of, and passengers had to awkwardly straddle the driver. Then one rainy day last December, Frohnmayer had an idea. What if they replaced the steering wheel with handlebars like the ones found on motorcycles and scooters? He did some mockups and realized it would save a ton of space. So he went into the workshop the next day and suggested the team start all over again with a new handlebar-based design.

At first the team thought he was crazy, says lead mechanical designer Jim Jordan. But his mind changed when he started running the numbers. Switching to the handlebar design would enable passengers to sit upright, slim the vehicle down by 500 pounds, and shave 20 inches off the length, enabling it to be parked like a motorcycle—all without reducing the power of the engine. The simplicity could also have a major impact on manufacturing the SRK. While Tesla has been plagued by delays due to its incredibly complex supply chain, Frohnmayer says the SRK will have only around 1,000 parts, which will make it far easier to build.

Still Too Expensive?  ???

But even at $12,000, the Arcimoto may be too expensive, warns Sam Abuelsamid, a senior research analyst specializing in the automotive industry at Navigant Research. After all, you can buy a Mitsubishi i-MiEV for about $15,495 after incentives (as of now, the 10 percent federal tax credit for electric motorcycles has expired). That extra few thousand dollars will buy you two more seats, an extra wheel, and the peace of mind that comes with knowing that your vehicle meets the more rigid safety standards set for four-wheeled vehicles—not to mention a vehicle engineered and built by an established automaker.


Renault Twizy

If Renault takes the Twizy worldwide, it could be a solid competitor to Arcimoto, assuming the legal hurdles are cleared. Meanwhile, China is producing its own patch of homegrown electric vehicles. And though Abuelsamid thinks it could find a niche in the US, he worries it’s simply too expensive for developing markets. “If you look at a market like China, India or South America, the up-and-coming customers, those markets are full of people who still get around on scooters,” Abuelsamid says. “But if you’re going after that customer, $13,000 might be too high a price.”

Frohnmayer and company are already thinking about a new, lower cost version of the SRK for emerging markets. Thanks to the handlebar breakthrough, Frohnmayer thinks it might be possible to create a new, less expensive version based on cheaper lead batteries now that the overall weight and size have been reduced. But based on the company’s research, he and his investors are convinced that $12,000 is the sweet spot in the US. And Frohnmayer says the company will compete on more than just price. The SRK’s tiny footprint will make it more energy efficient than full-sized electric cars like the i-MiEV, which could be a big selling point.

The purchase of a car or motorcycle isn’t a purely rational concern. There’s always an emotional component at play. The SRK may live or die based on the very first requirement that Frohnmayer set for the vehicle back in 2007: whether people think it’s fun to drive. Personally, I had a blast driving it around Eugene last summer. Its small size and open nature make driving even just 30 miles an hour feel like you’re flying. You might find it boring if you’re used to riding a motorcyle, but for those of us who spend most of our drive time behind the wheel of a station wagon, the SRK is liberating. But is it fun enough to win over the masses?    That’s the part of the company’s the business model that’s impossible to quantify.

1 Correction 10/18/2015 at 10:00 AM ET: An earlier version of this story said that the Renault Twizy was not available in North America. It’s been updated with information that the Twizy is now available as an hourly rental in San Francisco.


http://www.wired.com/2015/10/arcimoto/
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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #93 on: December 04, 2015, 02:38:32 pm »

Pledge Signed to Make All New Passenger Vehicles Zero Emissions by 2050

Simon Mui, Natural Resources Defense Council | December 4, 2015 11:45 am

http://ecowatch.com/2015/12/04/zero-emission-vehicles-cop21/

Better late than never, I guess.



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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #94 on: December 04, 2015, 08:11:04 pm »
Toyota Launches Two-Seat i-Road In Tokyo

Editor’s Note: While Toyota may be dragging its feet on the full-sized electric car market, I have to admit that I’ve loved this i-Road thingie since I first laid eyes on it. I hope Toyota isn’t just fooling around and will bring this to markets worldwide at some point. Here’s more on the latest i-Road from Henry Lindon, via Sustainnovate. –Zach'

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/12/03/toyota-launches-two-seat-i-road-in-tokyo/

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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #95 on: December 21, 2015, 07:01:55 pm »
Elon Musk Signs Open Letter Proposing Radical Fix to VW’s Emission Scandal

Cole Mellino | December 21, 2015 11:42 am

A group of prominent green technology investors and advocates sent an open letter (see below) to the California Air Resources Board (CARB) Thursday. Tesla CEO Elon Musk, former eBay President Jeff Skoll, Sierra Club Executive Director Michael Brune, Carl Pope of Inside Straight Strategies and SolarCity CEO Lyndon Rive were among the 45 signatories urging CARB to rethink its plan to recall Volkswagen cars with emissions-cheating software.

The letter urges the state’s emissions regulators to “abandon the plan to force Volkswagen to fix their emissions-cheating cars and instead require that the company put the resources it would take to accomplish that into transitioning to a zero-emissions car company.”

The authors of the letter call the plan “costly and impractical.” They warn CARB against wasting materials and money, arguing that “a giant sum of money [will] be wasted in attempting to fix cars that cannot all be fixed, and where the fix may be worse than the problem if the cars are crushed well before the end of their useful lives.”

Instead, they suggest mandating VW to “accelerate greatly its rollout of zero-emission vehicles, which by their very nature, have zero emissions and thus present zero opportunities for cheating, and also do not require any enforcement dollars to verify,” the letter reads.

The authors cite “net greater carbon dioxide emissions, a regulated pollutant” as further reason for CARB not to execute its current plan, along with “compromise[d] performance” of the fixed vehicles. To heed its proposed alternative solution “would be a real win for California emissions, a big win for California jobs and a historic action to help derail climate change.”

CARB declined to directly address the letter. “Our focus has and will continue to be cleaning the air and advancing the cleanest vehicle and fuel technologies,” CARB spokesperson Dave Clegern told Newsweek.

Here’s the letter in its entirety:
An Open Letter to California Air Resources Board Chairman Mary Nichols

The VW emissions scandal is mainly the result of physics meeting fiction. In the simplest terms, we have reached the point of de miminis returns in extracting performance from a gallon of diesel while reducing pollutants, at least at reasonable cost. Unsurprisingly, and despite having the greatest research and development program in diesel engines, VW had to cheat to meet current European and U.S. standards. Meeting future tighter diesel standards will prove even more fruitless.

For a significant fraction of the non-compliant diesel cars already in the hands of drivers, there is no real solution. Drivers won’t come in for a fix that compromises performance. Further, solutions which result in net greater CO2 emissions, a regulated pollutant, are inappropriate for CARB to endorse. Retrofitting urea tank systems to small cars is costly and impractical. Some cars may be fixed, but many won’t and will be crushed before they are fixed.

A giant sum of money thus will be wasted in attempting to fix cars that cannot all be fixed, and where the fix may be worse than the problem if the cars are crushed well before the end of their useful lives. We, the undersigned, instead encourage the CARB to show leadership in directing VW to “cure the air, not the cars” and reap multiples of what damage has been caused while strongly advancing California’s interests in transitioning to zero-emission vehicles.

The solution we propose for VW and the CARB is to, in a legally enforceable form:


1. Release VW from its obligation to fix diesel cars already on the road in California, which represent an insignificant portion of total vehicles emissions in the state, and which cars do not, individually, present any emissions-related risk to their owners or occupants

2. Instead, direct VW to accelerate greatly its rollout of zero-emission vehicles, which by their very nature, have zero emissions and thus present zero opportunities for cheating, and also do not require any enforcement dollars to verify

3. Require that this acceleration of the rollout of zero emissions vehicles by VW result in a 10 for 1 or greater reduction in pollutant emissions as compared to the pollution associated with the diesel fleet cheating, and achieve this over the next 5 years

4. Require that VW invest in new manufacturing plants and/or research and development, in the amounts that they otherwise would have been fined, and do so in California to the extent that California would have been allocated its share of the fines

5. Allow VW some flexibility in the execution and timing of this plan by allowing it to be implemented via zero-emission vehicle credits.


In contrast to the punishments and recalls being considered, this proposal would be a real win for California emissions, a big win for California jobs, and a historic action to help derail climate change.


The bottleneck to the greater availability of zero emissions vehicles is the availability of batteries. There is an urgent need to build more battery factories to increase battery supply, and this proposal would ensure that large battery plant and related investments, with their ensuing local jobs, would be made in the U.S. by VW.

A satisfactory way to fix all the diesel cars does not likely exist, so this solution sidesteps the great injury and uncertainty that imposing an ineffective fix would place on individual diesel car owners. A drawn out and partial failure of the process will only exacerbate the public’s lack of trust in the industry and its regulators. By explicit design, this proposal would achieve, in contrast, a minimum of a 10X reduction in pollutant emissions as compared to a complete fix.

There is a precedent for this type of resolution. In the industry-wide 1990 diesel truck cheating scandal, the EPA chose not to require an interim recall but instead moved up the deadline for tougher standards to make up the difference. This proposal does the same for VW and ties the solution to a transition to zero emissions vehicles.

We strongly urge CARB to consider this proposal in resolving the VW cheating scandal.

Ion Yadigaroglu, Partner, Capricorn Investment Group;
Elon Musk, CEO, Tesla and SpaceX;
Jeff Skoll, CEO, Jeff Skoll Group;
Dipender Saluja, Partner, Capricorn Investment Group;
Carl Pope, Inside Straight Strategies,
Chamath Palihapitiya, CEO, Social Capital;
Ira Ehrenpreis, Partner, DBL Partners;
Hal Harvey, CEO, Energy Innovation;
Antonio Gracias, CEO, Valor Equity Partners;
Lyndon Rive, CEO, SolarCity;
Michael Brune, Executive Director, Sierra Club;
Cole Frates, Renewable Resources Group;
Ari Swiller, Renewable Resources Group;
Lawrence Bender, Producer, An Inconvenient Truth;
Reuben Munger, Partner, Vision Ridge;
Jigar Shah, President, Generate Capital Angel;
Jason Calacanis, Launch Fund Partner;
Gregory Manuel, MNL Partners;
Adam Wolfensohn, Partner, Encourage Capital;
Jason Scott, Partner, Encourage Capital;
Martin Roscheisen, CEO, Diamond Foundry;
Steve Westly, Former California State Controller;
Jules Kortenhorst, CEO, Rocky Mountain Institute;
Steven Dietz, Partner, Upfront Ventures;
Kevin Parker, CEO, Sustainable Insight Capital;
Anja Manuel, Partner, RiceHadleyGates;
Larry Lunt, CEO, Armonia;
Mindy Lubber, President, Ceres;
Tom Darden, Partner, Cherokee Fund;
Panos Ninios, Partner, True Green Capital;
Jesse Fink, Chairman, MissionPoint;
Matt Breidert, Senior Portfolio Manager,
Ecofin; Suhail Rizvi, CEO, Rizvi Traverse;
Jeffrey Tannenbaum, Chairman, sPower;
Rob Davenport, Managing Partner, Brightpath Capital;
Stuart Davidson, Chairman, Sonen;
Laurence Levi, Partner, VO2 Partners;
Rob Day, Partner, Black Coral Capital;
Dan Fuller, CIO, Fuller Smith;
Nicholas Eisenberger, Partner, Pure Energy;
Marc Stuart, CEO, Allotrope Partners;
Justin Kamine, Kamine Development;
Peter R. Stein, Managing Director, Lyme Timber;
Bruce Kahn, PM, Sustainable Insight; and
Raúl Pomares, Capital Managing Director, Sonen


http://ecowatch.com/2015/12/21/elon-musk-vw-fix/

Agelbert Comment: Elon Musk is right. It's time to stop pu ssy footing around the reality of dirty emissions and the degradation of the biosphere and human health that they DIRECTLY cause.  Refining emissions from a polluting engine is like being half pregnant with Rosemary's Baby.

The internal combustion engine HAS TO GO, PERIOD!

Dr. Richard A. Houghton, acting president of the WOODS HOLE RESEARCH CENTER says TINA to a Low Carbon Economy[
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« Reply #96 on: January 03, 2016, 06:08:57 pm »
Mercedes F 015 Hydrogen Electric hybrid will have a range of 680 miles!  :o  ;D

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« Reply #97 on: January 05, 2016, 04:11:54 pm »
Chinese-backed and their first plant will be in...get this... LAS VEGAS!  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is a sure winner.  Sign me up for some stock in this company.  ::)

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http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-faraday-future-ces-20160104-story.html

Faraday Future unveils Batmobile-like electric concept car at CES


Faraday's FFZERO1 concept car was unveiled at CES in Las Vegas. (Faraday)
Andrea ChangAndrea ChangContact Reporter

The wait is over.

Faraday Future, the secretive Chinese-backed Gardena automaker, finally unveiled its first concept car at CES: a sleek, silver-and-black Batmobile-esque electric vehicle called the FFZERO1.

The 1,000-horsepower car was revealed Monday night during a launch event attended by hundreds of media. It can accelerate from zero to 60 in fewer than three seconds, with a top speed of more than 200 miles-per-hour.

Richard Kim, Faraday's head of global design, called the vehicle a "high-performance electric dream car" designed to "fight ugliness."

With its single-seat configuration and, if it ever goes into limited production, almost certain sky-high price tag (executives didn't comment on financials), the FFZERO1 concept car won't become ubiquitous anytime soon.

Nick Sampson, Faraday's senior vice president of research and development and product development, noted that when Faraday does release its first production car to market in a couple of years, it will be something more approachable. The car might be a sedan or maybe an SUV, although he noted that it will start out as a premium product, with a premium price.

Over time, Faraday would like to produce a car that is more affordable, he said.

Although a production vehicle is still a ways out, Faraday has generated significant buzz since its inception 18 months ago. In that time, it has grown to 750 employees worldwide and recently announced that it would build its first manufacturing facility in North Las Vegas.

Faraday will break ground on that site in the next few weeks; when it is completed, it will be 3 million square feet and house 4,500 workers.

Faraday's mission, Sampson said, is "a complete rethink of what mobility means." It wants to bring a speedier, technology-driven focus to car-making modeled after the innovations coming out of Silicon Valley.

"We must anticipate the future and act upon it with speed, decisiveness and a willingness to be more like a technology company rather than an automotive company," Sampson said. "We have a very transformative vision."

The hype surrounding the company has also led to speculation that it could become a real rival to Tesla. Faraday execs appeared to welcome those comparisons, and took a few gentle jabs at the fellow SoCal automaker.

"Tesla and Elon Musk have created something incredible and we should applaud them for it," Sampson, who formerly worked at Tesla, said. But he noted it took Tesla nine years to develop its first mass-market production vehicle, while Faraday is moving at a much faster rate, from rapidly scaling up its workforce to attempting to roll out a car in a couple of years.

And he was quick to point out that Faraday has hired several employees who used to work at Tesla, Apple, Google and BMW.

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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #98 on: January 06, 2016, 10:35:58 pm »
New report: Electric cars, buses, boats will be everywhere by 2026  ;D

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 December 30, 2015
 
I've been documenting my experiences with a used Nissan Leaf, and I often reflect on just how quickly electric vehicles are becoming a mainstream transportation option. True, they are still a rare sight compared to their gas and diesel counterparts, but I am no longer surprised to see several Leafs, Teslas and Volts each time I leave my home. (It does help that my neighbor over the road drives a Volt.)

If a new report from the analysts at IDTechEx Research is to be believed, it looks like this trend is set to not only continue—but increasingly it will accelerate and expand into all sectors of the transportation industry including industrial vehicles, boats, planes, buses and more.

According to Business Green's write up of the report, the growth between now and 2026 will be "breakneck"—with the total market eventually reaching $500bn by 2026.

Interestingly, given how much we TreeHuggers prefer electric buses and worry that electric cars still perpetuate bad planning, the report sees much of the growth (and profitability) coming from industrial and commercial electric vehicles as more cities aim to tackle chronic air pollution.

The report also suggests that commercial and industrial markets will be less vulnerable to policy changes than electric cars which, for now at least, are still fairly dependent on tax breaks and/or subsidies to compete with their gas-fueled counterparts. (Of course, this wouldn't be the case if the price of gas matched its true cost... )
 

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/new-report-electric-cars-buses-boats-will-be-everywhere-2026.html

Agelbert NOTE: [/b][/i][/size][/color] And what do the fossil fuelers say?  ???

They say.
"But, but, Saudi Arabia says that 94% of cars will be powered by gasoline by 2040. So, it must be true, because the fossil fuel industry, known for such integrity in energy statistics and sources and NEVER, NEVER telling a fib for oil or money  ;),  SAYS SO.     

 
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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #99 on: January 07, 2016, 06:23:11 pm »
This applies to internal combustion powered vehicles. I post it here to underline the fact the electric vehicles powered with renewable energy derived electricity are the only real world (when ALL costs are figured) method of transportation for human civilization. The continued manufacture and sale of internal combustion engines for transportation, unless they are powered by ethanol, profit polluters that have degraded our democracy and our biosphere. That is stupid.   

The video below is from 2012 but the polluting facts AND COSTS in regard to fossil fuels still apply, even if the nominal price at the pump is now much lower.

It is interesting to note that they discuss costs of fossil fuels caused pollution in Los Angeles, which now will be MUCH HIGHER, thanks to the Aliso Canyon Fracked Gas Blowout that cannot be plugged until March of 2016.

The shills for fossil fuels like Nicole Foss and Gail Tverberg have consistently denied the thermodynamic and pollution cost FACTS in the video because it is their JOB to LIE and DECEIVE on behalf of the Fossil Fuel Corporate Welfare Queens. Bought and paid for "energy experts" like Nicole Foss and Gail Tverberg are worthy of disdain and derision. Their lies will eventually catch up with them. But, unfortunately for the biosphere, they will always have a loyal following of dirty energy prefering, status quo worshipping, ethics challenged fools who listen to them.     


The True Cost of Gasoline is Closer to $15 a Gallon (Video)

SNIPPET from 2012 article accompanying the video:
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The video above, from the Center for Investigative Reporting does a good job of explaining how those costs are incurred—though it doesn't mention a few things, like the cost of maintaining a military presence in volatile, oil-exporting regions. Which means that the true cost of gas may be even higher than $15 a gallon ...

And that means that we should probably be looking for a way to make the market better reflect those true costs, while buffering those who'd be hurt most from such a spike—that's one of the reasons that fee and dividend is such a clever policy idea.

http://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fuels/true-cost-gasoline-closer-15-gallon-video.html

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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #100 on: January 08, 2016, 05:03:31 pm »
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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #101 on: January 09, 2016, 03:31:02 pm »
Hi folks, we finally took the jump and bought a new car - the 2016 Toyota Avalon Hybrid Limited.  We made this purchase the weekend before Christmas.  First, I'd like to thank everyone (especially AG) that provided input for me on new cars.  AG, I hope you're not too disappointed that we didn't choose an EV...but at least this car gets pretty good fossil fuel mileage - 40/39 mpg.  Due to the satisfaction we've had with our Prius over the years, we decided to limit our options strictly to Toyota vehicles. And we wanted a sedan. Due to my spine condition, a major factor in our decision was comfort.  As noted in this article, the suspension of the 2016 model has been retuned to deliver a softer, more comfort-oriented ride.  So in a nutshell, we purchased the most comfortable Toyota sedan that delivered an acceptable mileage per gallon (for us).  BTW, we paid cash - so the banks will not be making any money on financing.  For some reason, zero percent financing was not available for Hybrids. Here's a couple of pics that show the color (Crimson Mica) of the car we bought:



Congratulations, JoeP!       

Now if you could just make sure the fuel part is E85 (Only Brazil has E100, unfortunately) you would be able to give the finger to the fossil fuel worshippers on a daily basis.  :icon_mrgreen:

If you are interested, I can provide you with all the information you need to convert your fuel use to E85. Conversion kits are available for ALL internal combustion (gasoline powered, not diesel) cars. 
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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #102 on: January 09, 2016, 04:46:16 pm »
Thanks AG!  I'm just glad you're not super pis sed off at me for not buying an EV  :laugh:   Our car has the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive System. I honestly don't know much about E85 and I'd only be interested in this conversion if I knew it wouldn't void the warranty and I could easily find a local auto shop to do the work - I haven't done any car work myself for 20 years or so.

JoeP,
You are most welcome. I applaud your effort to do the best you can. It's all any of us can do. Here's some info that might be of interest to you.   

Most people do not know that you can BUY 35% of the gasoline components at the solvent section of Home Depot!  :P 

LOCATION of E85 filling stations: http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/

SNIPPETS from Myths and FAQs:

Is my car Flex Fuel from the factory?


The first thing to do is check for badging. If there is a Flex Fuel emblem on the back of the car then it is. If there is no emblem, check your fuel filler cap. If it is yellow, then yes it is flex. Also check the inside of the filler door. Some manufacturers will put an E85 sticker on the inside. The final place to check is the Fuel Freedom Foundation's website. They maintain the most comprehensive database of vehicles that are already Flex Fuel from the factory. If you get a positive hit, congratulations and head to the nearest E85 station and enjoy. If you get the big X, please come back to our site and buy a conversion kit.


Does your kit have any certifications?


Back in 2008 we did testing with the US EPA. Our kit was awarded an OBD2 Compliance. In order to enter the European market, our kit needed to be CE TUV certified. The CE TUV certification is better than being UL listed and Good Housekeeping seal of approval combined. We used to have a kit which was called FlexFuelUS. It was US EPA certified on a small number of engine groups. It was discontinued it as it was very expensive, difficult to install, and the only benefit over our standard kit was you could get some rebates but only if the vehicle was part of a fleet.

Does your conversion kit lock my vehicle into E85 only?

Our conversion kit will allow you to use Gasoline, E85, or any combination of the two fuels.

Can I run E100 with your conversion kit?
Yes. We have many people using E98 and E100 in their converted vehicles. Every car is different so you will need to play mad scientist and experiment with the water content. Too much water displaces the oxygen in the cylinder resulting in an antidentonant. Not enough water then results in wasting fuel.

Do I need to change my fuel pump? Fuel Lines? Fuel Tank? Fuel Rail? Fuel Injectors?
No. If you have electronic fuel injection, your fuel system is ethanol ready. Please remember that the only difference between a FlexFuel vehicle and a non FlexFuel vehicle is software;D

Can I safely convert my vehicle?
Yes you can. We have sold over 100,000 kits around the world. We have done testing with the US EPA. Our kit is CE certified in Europe. If our systems were not safe, the US EPA would have shut us down a long time ago. Also if E85 was truly harmful to your vehicle, then the EPA would mandate that the E85 pump nozzle be a different size than unleaded – just like they mandated with diesel. Did you know the EPA has a SWAT team?

Can I run Methanol with your kit?
Yes. M85 is used in Europe and we have done some testing here in Colorado with Methanol. Since methanol is so clean when burning, it is important to have fresh O2 sensors and a very well tuned up car. Methanol does eat seals in your fuel pump. Vyton is a synthetic rubber sealing material used in many vehicle fuel pumps. Vyton works just fine with gasoline and ethanol but will be damaged by methanol resulting in fuel pump failure. Buna-N seals are gasoline, methanol and ethanol proof. Vyton seals can be found on many GM cars and Buna-N can be found on many European vehicles. Which ones specifically have which, we don’t know.

Can your kit allow my car to run Diesel or Bio Diesel?
No. Diesel engines have different ignition and fuel delivery. If you want to convert your gasoline engine to Diesel, it will require an engine swap.

My car requires premium fuel. Can I still convert my car and use E85?
Yes. The typical car that has a premium fuel requirement needs a minimum of 91 octane. E85 has 105 octane which is even better!     

What is included with your Conversion Kit?
- E85 ethanol conversion computer
 - Wire harness
 - Appropriate connectors for your vehicle
 - Five year warranty
 - Seven day a week toll-free technical support
 - Zip ties and mounting screws

Myths and FAQs:
https://www.change2e85.com/E85-Myths-FAQs
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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #104 on: January 28, 2016, 10:10:45 pm »
 

Here is the transcript of the part of Nikola Tesla's speech that is in the video:

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It is not a dream

It is a simple feat of scientific electrical engineering

Electric power can drive the worlds machinery without the need of coal, oil, or gas

Although perhaps humanity is not yet sufficiently advanced to be willingly led by the inventors keen searching sense

Perhaps it is better in this present world of ours that a revolutionary idea be hampered in its adolescence

All that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combatted, suppressed, only to emerge all the more triumphantly from the struggle.


Our duty is to lay the foundation for those that are to come, and to point the way

Yes, humanity will advance with giant strides

We are whirling through endless space at an inconceivable speed

All around everything is spinning; everything is moving;

Everywhere, there is energy!  

MUST SEE VIDEO! Guaranteed to give fossil fuelers heartburn!   
 


http://www.treehugger.com/cars/not-dream-non-official-tesla-ad-crosses-mad-max-and-1984-nikola-tesla-narration-video.html
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