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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #375 on: April 07, 2018, 12:32:44 pm »
Lightning ⚡ Systems’ Electric Ford Transit Vans Begin Deliveries This Month

April 6th, 2018 by Steve Hanley

Lighting Systems, based in Colorado, has developed a complete battery electric drivetrain for the heavy duty Ford Transit vans. The upfit is offered as part of the Ford Quality Vehicle Modifier program, which keeps the original factory warranty intact for vehicles modified by approved companies like Lightning Systems, XL Hybrids, and Motiv Power Systems. Vans outfitted with the Lightning Systems electric powertrain will come with a 5-year/60,000-mile warranty from the company.

Lightning Systems electric Ford Transit

The company will take the new electric Transit vans on tour this month and deliver the first of them to Halo Event Group, a FedEx Ground contractor in New York City, and XPO Bus Sales in Los Angeles when the tour concludes. CleanTechnica’s Tina Casey is planning to test drive one of the vans in New York City later this month.

“The upcoming road show is a great chance for fleets to experience firsthand how quiet, smooth, and powerful the new LightningElectric is,” said Tim Reeser, chief executive officer for Lightning Systems. “It comes with all the benefits fleets expect from a Ford vehicle — interior comfort, warranty and top-class fit and finish — with the added benefits of a zero emissions electric vehicle like instant acceleration and lower maintenance costs.”

Lightning Systems says its certified upfit contractors can complete the conversion process in a few hours. It is working with Ford to obtain a rolling chassis with no drivetrain installed direct from the factory. Until that happens, the original drivetrain components are being repurposed. The conversion is available for all versions of the Ford Transit 350HD chassis, which is used in many commercial applications that involve passenger and cargo transportation.

The primary benefit for customers is a significant drop in operating and maintenance costs. The Lightning Systems Transit van has been rated at 61 eMPG in city use and 66 eMPG on the highway by the EPA. Transits with conventional powertrains are rated 13 city and 15 highway. In addition, the Lightning Systems Transit is eligible for a variety of federal, states, and local zero emissions incentives that may reduce the acquisition cost by $25,000 or more.

The electric Transit is available with either 50 miles or 100 miles of range. Recharging time is 30 minutes with DC fast-charging equipment and 6 hours with a Level 2 240 volt charger. Payload for the short-range version is 4,000 lbs and 3,000 lbs for the longer range model. Lighting Systems also manufactures hybrid and fuel cell conversions for the Ford Transit van in order to meet the needs of its customers.

“The LightningElectric is the full package,” Reeser added. “Engineering excellence combined with high-quality components validated by years of use in the industry, merged into a first-class, proven platform and supported by the Ford eQVM program and Ford dealer network for service and base-vehicle warranty. Add to this our industry-leading efficiency numbers, with the current government incentives landscape, and it is easy to see why we are already having to add to our production capacity.”



https://cleantechnica.com/2018/04/06/lightning-systems-electric-ford-transit-vans-begin-deliveries-this-month/

Agelbert NOTE: The comments at Cleantechnica on the above article are first rate! 🌞

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DBC Cookie • 20 hours ago
If electric delivery vans become popular, and I hope they do, night-time demand for electricity will increase. That's exactly the time solar is not producing energy, so even more batteries will be needed. At least with a personal car there is a chance it can be charged at work.


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Dan  DBC Cookie • 20 hours ago
New York just anounced a big off shore wind project. That will help with those night hours.


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Brent Jatko  Dan • 19 hours ago
Offshore wind (as opposed to the hot air coming from the politicians in Trenton) is coming to NJ as well.


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Mazter  DBC Cookie • 10 hours ago
Hydro, wind, bio-energy, CSP (in southern States), PHS.


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Andy • 7 hours ago
The problem with conversions is the suboptimal weight distribution. As can be seen from the diagram, all the additional weight is outside the wheel-base with no weight inside the wheel-base, where the ideal configuration is to have all the additional weight inside the wheel-base. Three dimensionally it also has additional weight above the axles, where the ideal is below, or at least centred on the axles.

Having said that, conversion of these vans might shame Ford into producing purpose built electric vans. In general, conversion is probably a better option than just scrapping what are otherwise desirable vehicles, when goverments begin imposing bans on ICE vehicles, so the existence of experienced conversion companies is a good thing. When i first started looking at getting an EV, 30 years ago, conversions were all i could consider.


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Martin  Andy • 2 hours ago
Well, if the corps will not build EV's, but people want there some, other ones will supply to the market, just look what the German post office did, when they were told an EV van could not be build.


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Steve Hanley  Andy • an hour ago
Good points, Andy. A New Flyer bus with the batteries mounted on the roof rolled over this week. Ruh Roh! I'm thinking of doing a story about that but don't want it to be too snarky.


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freedomev  Andy • 43 minutes ago
It doesn't have to be done that way. Fact is conversions is how a lot of Vans, trucks are going to become EVs.
As battery prices drop, EV motors, controllers already have the parts are low enough to just convert a company's ICE vans, trucks to serial or pure EV drive., not unlike what Workhorse has done for their drives.
Thus save the cost of a new EV van for about $15k as not enough new ones will be available a accounts do the numbers..
This is especially true for those with alum bodied vans which can go for 40-50 yrs and need engine replacing in 5-10 yrs. Thus saving the cost of a new ICE, etc and cutting running costs by 75% help pay for the conversion.


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Andy  freedomev • 11 minutes ago
Yes. The more the merrier.


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bwollsch • 2 hours ago
So we see it is possible to have a Ford electric delivery van. Why does this need to be outsourced to a third party? Why isn't Ford doing this internally now?


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Steve Hanley  bwollsch • an hour ago
Wish we had an answer to that question.


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