Renewable Revolution

Quote from: agelbert on July 21, 2017, 11:58:49 pm

Quote from: RE on July 21, 2017, 10:58:15 pm

Quote from: agelbert on July 21, 2017, 10:32:03 pm

You are frugal like I am. Don't compare our lifestyle with the average car buyer in the USA.

The average car buyer in the FSoA is me.  We buy Used Carz.  You can't afford new carz on the median income.  If you do buy one on the median income, you're an idiot and wasting your money.  New Carz are for the Top 20% of income earners.  EVs are for the top 20% also.  They cost too much.

RE

They are getting cheaper. I did a search for used Leaf EVs and I found a "used" Leaf (The Carfax report says it was a lease for an executive) with only 61 miles on it for sale at a very reasonable price. It comes with the complete factory 100,000 mile battery warranty.

I just searched again and it's gone. I guess they sold it. But there are some more good deals.

Check out the first one (2016 Leaf) at link with only 21 miles on it.

https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-for-sale/listings/nissan/leaf/location-05446/?searchRadius=250&sortOrder=MILEAGE_ASC

$12K.  I never paid more than $5K for a used car.

RE

Quote from: Eddie on July 21, 2017, 09:48:04 pm

The original Ford Falcon had an 85 hp straight six of 144 Cubic inches (2360 cc) and cost about $2000 new in 1960. It was a very basic car with no AC, no carpets, roll up windows, and a manual shifter on the steering column. Piece of **** car.

 I had a '64 Ford Econoline van in high school with the same engine. Woefully underpowered and the shifter linkage would lock up so I couldn't shift gears. One had to stop the car, get out and reach carefully into the grill, and line the shifter dogs back up by hand. LOL.

These fotos were stuck together, lucky i went hunting for it. 66 XP Falcon with the 170 Pursuit instead of 144 cube.. ex cop car.

Cars like that had column shift, a slippery vinyl bench seat and soft suspension, so they leaned over around corners. Surly probably lay his arm across the seat back and went around corners fast, so his date came sliding across to make the 2 headed driver and stick shift.

Quote from: Eddie on July 21, 2017, 09:48:04 pm

The original Ford Falcon had an 85 hp straight six of 144 Cubic inches (2360 cc) and cost about $2000 new in 1960. It was a very basic car with no AC, no carpets, roll up windows, and a manual shifter on the steering column. Piece of **** car.

 I had a '64 Ford Econoline van in high school with the same engine. Woefully underpowered and the shifter linkage would lock up so I couldn't shift gears. One had to stop the car, get out and reach carefully into the grill, and line the shifter dogs back up by hand. LOL.

When I was 16 my Dad took me to a used car lot to buy me car. Ford Falcon. The battery died 1 mile from the dealer.



This is close but not exact, don't remember its year, but this is close.

My gear shift was so bad that it jammed, and I had to get out and slide under the car and reassemble the gear joint back into female part!!!   This would happen about every two days. Wow, that was so many years ago it all seems like a dream.

Quote from: knarf on July 22, 2017, 07:50:30 am

Quote from: Eddie on July 21, 2017, 09:48:04 pm

The original Ford Falcon had an 85 hp straight six of 144 Cubic inches (2360 cc) and cost about $2000 new in 1960. It was a very basic car with no AC, no carpets, roll up windows, and a manual shifter on the steering column. Piece of **** car.

 I had a '64 Ford Econoline van in high school with the same engine. Woefully underpowered and the shifter linkage would lock up so I couldn't shift gears. One had to stop the car, get out and reach carefully into the grill, and line the shifter dogs back up by hand. LOL.

When I was 16 my Dad took me to a used car lot to buy me car. Ford Falcon. The battery died 1 mile from the dealer.



This is close but not exact, don't remember its year, but this is close.

My gear shift was so bad that it jammed, and I had to get out and slide under the car and reassemble the gear joint back into female part!!!   This would happen about every two days. Wow, that was so many years ago it all seems like a dream.

Oooh, let me play. My first car was a '64 Dodge Coronet, purchased in 1969.

  It looked very much like this. It had a slant 6; you'd open up the hood, and that little engine was in there, lying on its side.



I LOVED that car, and it served me well until it started losing oil. I should have had the engine rebuilt; but my father convinced me to get rid of it and buy a new car. Which was a 1971 Chevy Vega, with an aluminum block that blew up @ 40,000 miles. Proof of the axiom, "The poor man pays twice."  

Yes, you fine fellows have had long love affairs with your vehicles. Yes, we were ALL brainwashed to love all things about cars. I discovered that was stupid and costly. But not everybody can let go of expensive addictions that easy, as the comments I just read evidence. 

But since car owning history is in vogue here, this is my sad tale of spending too much money on vehicles powerd by polluting internal combustion CRAP engines:

1958 Cushman Husky scooter
1962 Vespa Scooter
1966 1956 Pontiac
1967 1957 Metropolitan
1968 Honda 125cc Motorcylce
1969 1967 Chevrolet Impala
1970 1964 Dodge Dart (push button transmission  :laugh:)
1973 1965 Piper Colt (an airplane  with cloth over metal frame wings with a 108HP engine)
1975 1976 New Ford F150 supercab pickup truck
1977 Traded the Piper colt for a 1975 Oldsmobile (lasted less than a year - needed a top overhaul - then in ess than two months a major overhaul so I traded it for a Civic)
1978 1978 New Honda Civic CVCC
1983 1984 New Toyota Supra (Totalled within a year (hit from behind by an FBI agent speeding and changing lanes while the supra was at a full stop in a traffic jam on an off ramp - Insurance company went bankrupt so they did NOT pay me the loss and the Chase bank ruined my credit for not paying off the vehicel while the state insurance commissioner took two years to pay me for the vehicle loss).
1985 1985 New Mitsubishi Mirage
1986 1980 Oldsmobile
1988 1980 Cadillac
1989 1974 Ford Station Wagon
1990 1990 New Ford Probe Gt Turbo (Totaled in one month)
1991 1991 New Ford Probe (Had to turn in to the bank from bankruptcy within a year)
1992 1984 Lincoln continental (Totalled in 1996 from being rear ended at high speed by a Toyota pickup)
1997 1997 New Toyota Camry

 
Have a nice day.