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Re: Electric Vehicles
« Reply #495 on: January 13, 2019, 02:12:44 pm »
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Coming To America In 2019 — Compliance Cars Only  :P

January 13th, 2019 by Maarten Vinkhuyzen

Note: A version of this article was published in the second half of an article last week. We rearranged several things and wanted to highlight it separately this weekend, but don’t presume you’ve contracted deja vu if you read the first article.

The European market is about the same size as the US market, ~17 million vehicles. On average, US electric car incentives are better ($7,500 federal tax credit + local incentives in USA beats most European incentives, such as a €4,000 rebate in Germany).

In Europe, however, the number of new fully electric cars in 2019 is nearly twice as high as in the USA, and the models in this article will sell 2 to 10 times better in Europe. The difference is a sales channel that is better able and willing to sell electric cars. I explore this in more depth on the bottom of this article.

In 2019, a dozen new fully electric cars and SUVs are coming to the USA market. Well, they are not coming to all states — many will be what are called “compliance cars.” Let’s take a look at these electric cars and SUVs briefly first.

List of Electric Cars Coming to the USA

Full article:

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/13/new-electric-cars-on-the-market-in-usa-2019/

Agelbert COMMENT: I recognize and agree, in part, with this quote from the article:

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"The reason not to sell in the USA is simple: As long as battery production is smaller than world demand, all carmakers are production constrained. To get to profitability in this new electric vehicle market, the markets where it is easy to sell with low costs are prioritized over markets where selling is hard and expensive."

What makes me scratch my head in regard to battery production is the fact that internal combustion engine manufacturing is a giant monstrocity that is far more complex than battery manufacturing. Battery production can be scaled up 4 or 5 times as fast as engine manufacturing. True, electric motors are often all that is compared with crapmobile engines, but the battery pack is more of the IT for an EV than the electric motor, as far as production.

Please do not tell me that making batteries is more demanding or difficult to scale up than making crapmobile engines. It's child's play in comparison.

Some years ago I studied the gasmobile engine supply chain from the mines to the vehicle to the replacement parts to the junkyard, which has, regrettably, a VERY small amount of recycling involved.

TWENTY YEARS is the back of the envelope life of one of these engines. IOW, the whole gas crapmobile engine infrastructure can be replaced in two decades.

Battery pack manufacturing is much simpler. True, the battery packs plus the electric motors and the electronics that become the heart of an EV must be viewed as a unit, even as a gasmobile engine, cooling, exhaust and fuel system is.

BUT, electric motors and associated electronics do not have any production constraints at present. They can certainly be made in the same factories that now make gasmobile engines. But, they aren't. 👎

So, we are left with the battery package "production constraints". I maintain that, unlike the gasmobile raw material supply chain (mining to junk) life cycle, the battery industrial infrastructure can be built up in less than five years. PLUS, the total life cycle of battery packs and electric motors and the associated electronics, as a unit, is easily 40 years, not just 20 like gasmobile engines are.

If you think the gasmobile engine makers are not aware of this, you are kidding yourself. They KNOW that their pet profit providing activity, though ruinously polluting, is the PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE of gasmobile engines. 😈

EV systems, lasting at least TWICE as long, threaten the beloved "planned obsolescence" (polluting) gravy train.

So, the gasmobile makers, with a lot of help from their Fossil Fuel Fascist 🐉🦕🦖 pals, fight the EV revolution tooth and nail.  >:(



This is stupid. It's time to STOP this idiotic love affair with planned obsolescence, that began in the early 20th century as a method to keep factories going full tilt all the time. It is TIME to realize that consuming for the hell of it is STUPID. It is TIME to realize that Madison Avenue has sold we-the-people a bill of goods in regard to EVERYTHING we "think we need" to transport ourselves, eat, wear, shelter and sleep in, even if the greedballs among us do not want to admit it. 🐵🙉 🙊

It is TIME to recognize that GREED IS BAD for the biosphere in general, and humans in particular.

BUILD the Battery factories right where all those gasmobile engine factories are! Phase out gas crapmobile engines in two decades!

You have the supply chains from the mines THERE ALREADY for any and all raw materials you use. You will need FAR LESS raw materials than before. You will learn how to reduce polluting mining to next to nothing through recycling ALL battery, electronics and electric motor EV components.

OR, you can just keep being GREEDY (i.e. STUPID) and cause us all to choke on our garbage.

Rant over.




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así es todo aquel que es nacido del Espíritu. Juan 2:8

 

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