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Author Topic: Blasts from the 2012 to 2013 past when there was more HOPE 🌟  (Read 3509 times)

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Agelbert NOTE: My estimate for the first ice free summer at the North Pole of 2017 was a bit off. However, since it may happen this year or next, I was a LOT closer than the 2030-2040 scientific consensus (Seymour Laxon, professor of climate physics at University College) at the time. 😎


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Arctic Ice Melting Fast
The sea ice in the Arctic is expected to hit a record low by the end of the month.

By Edyta Zielinska | August 21, 2012

The ebb of Arctic ice during the warm months of the year is expected to reach an all time low by the end of the summer. There will be 186,000 fewer square miles of ice than the previous lowest record, which was in 2007, according to BBC News, and the ice is expected to continue melting into mid- to late September.
 
“We got very close to a record minimum last year,” Seymour Laxon, professor of climate physics at University College London, told the BBC.  The trend may force scientists to reconsider their predicted date for when the Arctic will be completely melted.  In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reported that as a result of the melting trends, they expected that the Arctic would be ice-free by the year 2100.
 
“When we had the 2007 minimum, that date was brought forward to 2030-2040,” said Laxon.  “The fact that we look set to get another record ice minimum in such a short space of time means that the modelers may once again need to go and look at what their projections are telling them,”
http://the-scientist.com/2012/08/21/artic-ice-melting-fast/

Yes indeed. The modelers are way too conservative with the 2030 date.
Agelbert's non-peer reviewed thoroughly thorough scientific examination of the arctic ice melt projects the summer of 2017 as the first summer that all the OLD ice will be gone. That summer will be ice free. Of course new ice will form during the fall and winter but there will be less each year as the open ocean albedo (2 to 10% vs 80% for ice) absorbs more heat (from solar photons, RE, not the atmosphere  ;D) thereby delaying ice formation each fall and initiating earlier ice melt each spring. WHD is witness that I have already stated this earlier here.

A bull market in floating houses on the East coast is comin' (and a bear market in low lying ocean front property in the whole fuc king WORLD!).


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Agelbert's non-peer reviewed thoroughly thorough scientific examination of the arctic ice melt projects the summer of 2017 as the first summer that all the OLD ice will be gone.

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WHD is witness that I have already stated this earlier here.

I know I asked you, but I didn't see the response. When you say OLD ice, there's some pretty old fuc king ice on Greenland and Antarctica. Are you saying an entirely ice free world in August/Sept, in 2017? :o Cause that's going to displace WHD's entirely un-peer-reviewed assessment of about 2-3 billion people.
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No. I'm talking about just the floating stuff in the Arctic. The OLD ice is the kind that doesn't thaw from year to year on the floating ice pack. The floating stuff around Antarctica will last longer but I don't have an estimate on that at this time.

As to the ice of Greenland, once the surrounding sea is ice free during the summer, big chunks may just slide off because of tunneling melt water creating a lubricated based between the land and ice cover and the lack of brake on the glacial slide because the sea has no floating pack in it. I don't think we'll see the ice over Greenland and Antarctica go in our lifetimes (next 20 years or so for me) but we may see some pretty big chunks come o
ff.
agelbert,

Glad to hear it. As if we don't have enough problems, without 3 billion refugees.


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