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Geopolitics / Re: Profiles in Courage
« on: October 20, 2013, 04:31:28 pm »
Kyle Childress
There’s a line in the old King James, that says the prayers of a faithful person ‘availeth much.’ One person, one small community, acting in faithfulness, can bring healing, hope, change.”

Meet the Churchgoers Helping Lead an Uprising Against Big Oil in Texas

Activists in Texas are connecting the fight against the Keystone pipeline with the struggle for environmental justice

Snippet 1:

Since the blockaders began showing up at his church, Childress told me as we drank coffee on his back porch the next morning, people have noticed a change in his preaching. “There’s an urgency that maybe I didn’t have before. They’re reminding us that climate change is not something we’re going to fiddle-faddle around with. I mean, you’ve got to step up now.”

But there’s more to it, Childress continued: “I’m preaching to young people who are putting their lives on the line. They didn’t come down here driving a Mercedes Benz, sitting around under a shade tree eating grapes. They hitchhiked. They rode buses. And they get arrested, they get pepper-sprayed, they get some stiff penalties thrown against them.” (In January, Tar Sands Blockade and allied groups settled a lawsuit brought by TransCanada seeking $5 million in damages for construction delays, forcing them to stay off the pipeline easement and any TransCanada property.)

Childress noted that some of the blockaders, especially the Occupy veterans, refer to the corporate capitalist system as “the Machine.” “And they’re exactly right, using that kind of language,” he said. “They’re going up against the Machine in a real, clearly defined way. Not subtle—really upfront. And I’m trying to help them realize what it’s going to take to sustain the struggle.

Snippet 2:

]The prophet Amos, Childress told us, was called to be a fierce advocate—among the Bible’s fiercest—on behalf of justice for the poor and oppressed. “Amos’s strong preaching was hard then, and it’s hard today,” Childress said. Just as in Amos’s day, when the wealthy trampled on the poor while worshiping piously in the temples, so today our “programs of care for the poor and needy” are dismantled “with a religious zeal.” Meanwhile, “giant corporations get a free ride. They can diminish people, destroy the earth, pour out climate-changing carbon, all in the interest of short-term profit, and no one can do anything about it.” But Amos knew, Childress assured us, that God is the spring of justice—and that without God, “we are unable to keep up the struggle for justice and goodness and love over the long haul.”

“God calls us to justice, to be a people who embody justice,” said Childress, himself a longtime activist on issues of race, poverty and peace. And yet, as King and all those who fought for civil rights knew, “serving and battling for justice is a long-haul kind of calling.”

Childress—deeply influenced by the likes of Wendell Berry, the late Will D. Campbell and, of course, King—is not a Bible-thumper. He doesn’t shout. Heavyset and ruddy-faced, with a whitening, close-cropped beard, he speaks with a soft, flat West Texas accent. But his voice carries real power and conviction.

Full Article HERE

 A. G. Gelbert   

Anonymous (Of COURSE!) said, "Anyone who believes that we can eliminate fossil fuel and nuclear from the grid, without an unprecedented breakthrough in long term energy storage, needs a refresher course in Physics and Engineering."

Anyone that thinks fossil fuels and nuclear power plants are not poisonous technology that remain the main source of energy use in civilization by any other means than corruption, externalizing costs and gaming the subsidy playing field needs a course in empire politics in the 20th century and a review of the history of Standard Oil and the Rockefeller empire. Neither the physics nor the thermodynamic properties of fossil fuels or nuclear fusion have anything whatsoever to do with it. The Manhattan project ALONE was bigger than the automobile industry while remaining secret. Not one penny of that was EVER recovered by the American public.

As far as Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) is concerned for fossil fuels, long before PV or wind power was envisioned, ethanol from farm crops was CHEAPER than gasoline but a huge alcohol tax and then prohibition forced ethanol out of the competition even though it is a HIGHER OCTANE FUEL than gasoline.

And for those who think the lead spewing poison additive now banned from cars, tetra ethyl lead, is no longer poisoning children and adults, I'm sorry to tell you that in the USA it is LEGAL to put tetra-ethyl lead in aviation gasoline! So if you live near an airport with a lot of light plane general aviation traffic, you are getting showered with it. Of course they can design aircraft engines to run on ethanol instead of high octane tetra ethyl lead gasoline for high compression aircraft engines. Brazil has been doing it for years. The reason WE don't do it is because big oil is protecting more of its turf.

For those who want to understand the ACTUAL physics and engineering proving renewable energy has ALWAYS been more cost effective than fossil or nuclear fuels, this detailed, multi-page article comparing the various energy source EROEI numbers (with ALL THE COSTS included) will clear up the doubts about the insanity of fossil fuel and nuclear power use in human civilization.

In short, unlike renewable energy, fossil fuels and nuclear power never have been cost effective for civilization and the biosphere because governments controlled by these industries massively subsidize them though taxes, turn a blind eye to health costs the people must pay, and reward the small group of elite investors that hold stock in these poisonous industries. That is corruption, not thermodynamics.

Hope for a Viable Biosphere of Renewables

Why They Work
and Fossil & Nuclear Fuels Never Did

Published July 17, 2012. | By A. G. Gelbert.

Hope for a Viable Biosphere of Renewables


When they fall back on the EROI formula Procrustean Bed with the claim that EROI only deals with energy density in fuels and not efficiency coefficients in different engine types, calmly remind them that gasoline is not customarily used for furnaces, room lighting, barbeque grills or to boil water; it’s used almost exclusively in the ICE (internal combustion engine).

For these fossil fuel lackeys, water carriers and quislings to refuse to measure gasoline’s EFFECTIVE USABLE ENERGY when it is actually used in an ICE to do work is the height of duplicity.

But this subterfuge by Rockefeller’s admirers is not new. As I have mentioned before, way back at the end of the 19th century, Rockefeller was flushing his gasoline waste product in the rivers by his refineries at night. He could not avoid producing gasoline in his refinery cracking towers (about 19 gallons of gasoline for every 42 gallon barrel of crude refined)*. When the automobile came out in the early twentieth century, the early car fuel called benzene had to be eliminated because that hydrocarbon is a carcinogenic. As you read above in the 1906 Edison lab study, ethanol was considered competitive energy wise with gasoline.

What did Rockefeller do? He lowered the price of gasoline (remember his cost was near zero because it had been a waste product of the refining process) so much that ethanol was priced out of the market**. It was a win-win for Rockefeller.

It was only a matter of time before his nasty habit of flushing gasoline into rivers at night was going to get him and his refinery employees facing the wrong end of a shotgun from some irate farmer who noticed his horses and cows getting sick or dying when drinking the river water downstream of an oil refinery.

So Rockefeller managed to change the flush operation from the rivers to the atmosphere and make a bundle out of it too. But this predatory capitalist wasn’t done killing ethanol yet. He gave millions to a temperance group that ultimately succeeded in Prohibition legislation banning the production and use of ethanol (ethyl alcohol), not just for drinking, but for ICE fuel as well (and you thought Prohibition was just the fundies not wanting you to get high on booze. Rockefeller USED the fundies to block ethanol competition).

The reality was that the “cheap” gasoline was far, far more expensive than ethanol due to the atmospheric poisons introduced. It got even worse when tetra-ethyl lead entered the mix in the 1920s. It wasn’t until about 1973 that the severe damage from leaded gasoline was recognized and even so, to this day, unleaded gasoline is not mandatory in off road vehicles.

Now that ethanol is out there and available once again as a competitor to gasoline, the fossil fuel enablers return with the familiar FALSE claims that ethanol is not competitive with gasoline and the poppycock that gasoline gets better mileage than ethanol.

Call out these overeducated, Procrustean Bed, creative thermodynamics “geniuses” carrying water for the fossil fuel industry on their lies and distortions. Accuse them of being well aware of the above and deliberately distorting the fuel facts when they are actually applied to their use in engines. Tell them their Procrustean Bed EROI BS isn’t going to fly anymore.

"*On average, about 19.5 US gallons (16.2 imp gal; 74 L) of gasoline are available from a 42-US-gallon (35 imp gal; 160 L) barrel of crude oil (about 46% by volume), varying due to quality of crude and grade of gasoline. The remaining residue comes off as products ranging from tar to naptha.[4]"


** "The gasoline engine became the preferred engine for the automobile because gasoline was cheaper than alcohol, not because it was a better fuel. And, because alcohol was not available at any price from 1920 to 1933, a period during which the sale, manufacture, and transportation of alcohol was banned nationally as mandated in the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The amendment was repealed by the Twenty-First Amendment on December 5, 1933. In time to produce alcohol fuels during World War II. By the time World War II ended, the gasoline engine had become “entrenched” because gasoline remained cheaper than Alcohol, and widely distributed – gas stations were everywhere."



Full Knock Down Drag out Thread from above with article fueling the debate here   

Fossil Fuel Folly / Fighting the good fight
« on: October 20, 2013, 03:06:22 pm »
From a thread I participated in  ;D to keep the fossil fuelers from spreading 'inaccuracies'.  ;)

Stan Curlee   

No A.G., I deplore inflated dividends also. And did I post yet on being dead set against nuclear? I am. Here’s the bottom line with me and I have stated it here more than once. My concern is a dependable grid that will not harm the percent delivery on demand and quality of power we get or cause financial pain beyond what we can afford—vastly higher rates, vastly higher taxes or government default.

If renewables can do it, fine. But they cannot, I submit, past about 15% penetration. And everyone is going to have to find that out the hard way. I’m not sure I’m “mobilizing” against anything, but this is a hoppy and passion, just because I’m a techy type on this stuff and love it. . . . Unless you consider me an army of “one.” A.G., I ask you to dig deep and really consider how many technical points/challenges I am actually misrepresenting. (?) Really? And RE phase 3, I don’t think I’m disguising anything. I think Scheer left out the “honest engineering challenge” phase. He assumes there are ZERO honest challenges to this?? Not one? There’s nothing special about me, but this is my discipline. I run numbers similar to these and risk assess complex systems all the time for viability when I have to solve engineering problems. Thomas made a very telling remark in his great article. Remember? There are simply so many non-technically trained people in places of power and influence who simply will not listen to or take advice from those of us who are technically trained. Their minds are made up.

A. G. Gelbert 

Here's the main problem I have with your defense of the fossil fuel energy status quo as if it was something reasonably priced, economical, viable and sane as opposed to your continuous insistence on claiming that renewable energy is too costly and/or unreliable:

Fossil fuel energy was never, and I mean never, cost effective.
In a sane society that doesn't pretend you can add and subtract whatever factors you wish in order to come up with a profit that will attract investment capital, you figure in all the costs to human society.

From the moment John D. Rockefeller started flushing gasoline down the rivers in Pennsylvania in the late 19th century (it was a waste product then) after refining crude oil for lubricants and lamp oil, huge costs were being foisted on society.

Coal is even worse. You pretend all that is water under the bridge. You pretend all the benefits of modern society are an acceptable tradeoff.

Well, they aren't. The only premise that is logical and sane now, with the continued damage that adds insult to injury to the biosphere we all depend on, is to admit that fossil fuels were never a viable, cost effective, sustainable source of energy for mankind and press on to renewable energy simply because there is no other alternative.

Argue this isn't real and those who defend fossil fuel energy are not in la la land in regard to the actual cost of these poisons if you dare.

The subsidies the fossil-fuel (and nuclear) industry receive — and have received for many years — make their product “affordable.” Those subsidies take many forms, but the most significant are their “externalities.” Externalities are real costs, but they are foisted off on the community instead of being paid by the companies that caused them.[18]

Paul Epstein, director of Harvard Medical School Center for Health and the Global Environment, has examined the health and environmental impacts of coal, including: mining, transportation, combustion in power plants and the impact of coal’s waste stream. He found that the "life cycle effects of coal and its waste cost the American public $333 billion to over $500 billion dollars annually". These are costs the coal industry is not paying and which fall to the community in general. Eliminating that subsidy would dramatically increase the price of coal-fired electricity.[18]

IEA position on subsidies

According to IEA (2011) energy subsidies artificially lower the price of energy paid by consumers, raise the price received by producers or lower the cost of production. ,"Fossil fuels subsidies costs generally outweigh the benefits.

 Subsidies to renewables and low-carbon energy technologies can bring long-term economic and environmental benefits".[19] In November 2011, an IEA report entitled Deploying Renewables 2011 said "subsidies in green energy technologies that were not yet competitive are justified in order to give an incentive to investing into technologies with clear environmental and energy security benefits".

The IEA's report disagreed with claims that renewable energy technologies are only viable through costly subsidies and not able to produce energy reliably to meet demand. "A portfolio of renewable energy technologies is becoming cost-competitive in an increasingly broad range of circumstances, in some cases providing investment opportunities without the need for specific economic support," the IEA said, and added that "cost reductions in critical technologies, such as wind and solar, are set to continue."[20]

Fossil-fuel consumption subsidies were $409 billion in 2010, oil products claim half of it. Renewable-energy subsidies were $66 billion in 2010 and will reach according to IEA $250 billion by 2035. Renewable energy is subsidized in order to compete in the market, increase their volume and develop the technology so that the subsidies become unnecessary with the development.

Eliminating fossil-fuel subsidies could bring economic and environmental benefits. Phasing out fossil-fuel subsidies by 2020 would cut primary energy demand 5%. Since the start of 2010, at least 15 countries have taken steps to phase out fossil-fuel subsidies.


I say they should take the subsidy money presently assigned to fossil fuels and transfer all of it to renewable energy subsidies.

Fossil fuel was never a viable energy option for mankind. We cannot afford to burn fossil fuels, period.

Somehow, I don't think, you, Stan, would agree to the shutting off of all fossil fuel subsides and giving that money to renewable energy for at least as long as fossil fuels had it (about 100 years!) .

The rest of that thread and the article it was based on here

Climate Change / REALITY
« on: October 20, 2013, 02:17:25 am »
Our situation explained succinctly by Al Gore. He makes a few choice put downs of Global Warming Denial BS along the way with some IRREFUTABLE HARD DATA

For example, WE put out a LOT more Carbon dioxide than ALL THE VOLCANOES IN THE WORLD PUT TOGETHER!  :o

New Inventions / PTEROFIN
« on: October 19, 2013, 10:31:26 pm »
Harnessing Flowing Fluids to Create Torque
US 20120034079 A1




An apparatus and method for producing high output and low cost/time, sustainable energy (e.g., wind or water) via natural currents that is environmentally friendly and includes a gravity-assisted equalizing control system is provided.

Wings with a large surface area can be included in the design, as well as an optional counterbalance system that synchronizes the wings' position and speed with a mechanical leverage point on the body of the device. When a fluid flows past wings of the device, the fluid flow induces motion in the wings, which causes a shaft to move, creating torque at the generator.

 The outcome is a coordination of harmonizing the wings pitch angle to the natural frequency of a fluids specific velocity. The device can adapt itself to the velocity of the surrounding fluid through a rotational sweeping control system that produces a more streamlined profile to maximize reliability.


In various embodiments, a device and method for harnessing flowing fluids provides usable power to homes and businesses, such as those adhering to structure height or environmental restrictions. The device comprises one or more wings that pivot around a central axis attached to a generator, which can be a generator capable of generating usable power, such as electricity or pumping water, or can be a coupler capable of connecting to a generator. The wings are also attached to a control system that is configured for orienting the wing in response to both the position of the wing about the central axis and a speed of the flowing fluid.

In one implementation, the device is mounted on a base that positions the device partially underground. Alternatively, the device is mounted on a base similar to a telephone poll or a typical windmill tower. The connecting point of the structure to the device may be a bearing capable of rotating the device. The mounting system may then come forward, or into the direction that natural current is coming from, keeping the center of gravity of the project over the bearings previously mentioned.

In one implementation, the one or more wings oscillate through an arc about the central axis. In one such implementation, the control system reorients the wing according to the speed of the fluid flow and the position of the wing in the arc to maximize efficiency and reliability.

In another implementation, the one or more wings rotate around the central axis. In such an implementation, the control system reorients the wing according to the speed of the fluid flow and the position of the wing in its rotation to maximize efficiency and reliability.

In various embodiments, a rudder is attached to the central axis. This rudder remains fixed in position while the wings pivot. As the fluid flows past the rudder, it reorients the device on the base to face maximally into the fluid flow

In various embodiments, the control system is a counterweight-based apparatus. As the wings pivot around the central axis, the counterweight-based apparatus orients the wings with the assistance of a weight and gravity.

In various embodiments, the control system is a spring-based apparatus. As the wings pivot around the central axis, the spring-based apparatus orients the wings with the assistance of springs.

In various embodiments, the control system is a fluid-resistance-based apparatus. As the wings pivot around the central axis, the fluid-resistance-based apparatus orients the wings based on resisting the speed of the fluid flow.

In various embodiments, the wing is hinged at the shaft. This allows the wing to fold towards the shaft in response to debris in the fluid flow, high fluid flow speeds, or an action by the control system.

The various embodiments provide a mechanism for high output and low cost/time, sustainable energy (e.g., wind or water) via natural currents in a design that is easier to manufacture than most carbon fiber or fiberglass windmill blades at a lower price with a smaller carbon footprint. The design is more environmentally friendly, causing very little harm to the animals or ecosystem, and has a far greater overall energy output than existing technology, as it moves slower than windmills and utilizes cubic area/surface area to be converted into electricity.

In addition, it has a much lower minimal amount of natural energy currents necessary for the device to run on, and its improved reliability and resistance to damage from unpredictable weather conditions reduces cost over time.

The device mimics a bird's wing as it flaps through the air or a fish's fin as it propels itself through the water, given the nature and properties of the natural energy current, and is scalable to any size. The device can also be organized in wind or water farms to maximize efficiency per square acre of land in use. The device can be built half way underground, or mounted on an above-ground structure (e.g., a tall, narrow circular structure, similar to a telephone poll or typical windmill tower).


Surly said,
Great thread, AG. But emotionally exhausting!

Agreed. My goal with this thread is to provide perspective that, painful as it is, we must never lose sight of what goes on out there day in and day out that is gut wrenching, tragic and downright frightening in it's level of chaos and the apparent mindless anarchy of the human condition.

Throughout all this apparent godless clusterfuck, I see God acting through the biosphere in general and brave people that struggle in the face of adversity in particular. This is inspiring to me. I frankly don't know how they do it because I don't know how I would have the strength to carry on in their shoes.

But somehow, even though tragic failures abound, those victories are real and I see God working in them to show us He cares. And that gives me hope and strengthens my Faith.

As I now pass the 67 year old mark, this passage from the bible that has always been a head scratcher for me is beginning to make more sense.

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen
Hebrews 11:1

Geopolitics / Profiles in Courage
« on: October 19, 2013, 06:11:28 pm »
Michael Ruppert:

Truth-Telling Cop who claims CIA enables drug-trafficing. On November 15, 1996, then Director of Central Intelligence John Deutch visited Los Angeles' Locke High School for a town hall meeting. At the meeting, Ruppert publicly confronted Deutch, saying that in his experience as an LAPD narcotics officer he had seen evidence of CIA complicity in drug dealing.[11]
Ruppert went on to become an investigator and journalist,[12] and established the publication From The Wilderness, a watchdog publication that exposed governmental corruption, including his experience with CIA drug dealing activities.[13]

Ruppert is the author of Crossing The Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil,[14] published in September 2004. Crossing The Rubicon claims that Vice President Dick Cheney, the US government, and Wall Street had a well-developed awareness of and colluded with the perpetrators of 9/11.

Ruppert appears in the documentary films The 911 Report You Never Saw - The Great Conspiracy, Peak Oil - Imposed by Nature,[15] Zeitgeist: Moving Forward, The End of Suburbia, American Drug War: The Last White Hope and Collapse.


Vestas wins 108 MW order for one of the largest wind power plants in Romania   

36 V112-3.0 MW turbines ordered for the Crucea North wind project


With reference to Vestas Wind Systems A/S company announcement No. 44 of 10 October 2013, Vestas is pleased to announce a firm and unconditional order for 108 MW from S.C. Crucea Wind Farm S.R.L. / STEAG GmbH for the wind power plant Crucea North, located in the Constanta county in the province of Dobrogea.

The order includes supply, installation and commissioning of the turbines, along with a VestasOnline® Business SCADA solution as well as a 10-year full-scope service agreement (AOM 4000). Delivery is planned to start in April 2014 and commissioning is expected to be completed by December 2014.

The Crucea North wind power plant is one of the largest in Romania and represents a step forward in the development of Vestas’ relationship with one of the key players in wind energy in Europe.

”The negotiations with Vestas for one of STEAG’s biggest projects in wind energy have been efficient and focused,” states Dr. Ralf Gilgen, member of the Board of Management of STEAG GmbH. “We expect this to be the starting point for a successful strategic partnership in the development and realisation of international wind energy projects.”

“We are pleased to receive the Crucea North order from our valued customer Crucea Wind Farm S.R.L. / STEAG GmbH. This wind energy project marks another important milestone in further developing the Romanian wind market, and we are happy to support our customer’s business case with our 30 years of wind energy experience and efficient wind energy solutions,” says Thomas Richterich, President of Vestas Central Europe. “With this order Vestas reinforces its market leading position in the Romanian market having the strongest local presence and the largest operational fleet.”

The wind project totalling 108 MW will be a key contributor to Romania’s ambitious targets as detailed in its National Renewable Energy Action Plan. The 36 V112.3.0 MW wind turbines will produce more than 300 GWh per year, which corresponds to an annual saving of almost 124,000 tons of CO2 emissions. Furthermore, it will provide enough electricity to cover the residential electricity consumption of more than 550,000 persons in Romania.

As of 30 June 2013, Vestas has delivered 654 V112-3.0 MW turbines worldwide representing a total capacity of more than 1.9 GW, and has received more than 4.5 GW of firm orders for this model.

About Vestas
Every single day, Vestas wind turbines deliver clean energy that supports the global fight against climate change. Wind power from Vestas’ almost 50,000 wind turbines currently reduces carbon emissions by over 60 million tons of CO2 every year, while at the same time building energy security and independence. Today, Vestas has installed turbines in 73 countries, providing jobs for around 17,000 passionate people at our service and project sites, research facilities, factories and offices all over the world. With 62 per cent more megawatts installed than our closest competitor and more than 57 GW of cumulative installed capacity worldwide, Vestas is the world leader in wind energy.

The headquarters of Vestas Central Europe is located in Hamburg, Germany. The business unit is responsible for the sales and marketing of wind power systems as well as for the installation and operation of  wind power plants in Germany, Benelux, Austria, Russia, Eastern Europe and Southern and Eastern Africa.

Vestas entered the Romanian market in 2008 and is now the market leader here, with headquarters in Bucharest as well as several working sites in the field for construction and service activities. The local economy benefits greatly from wind energy’s ability to drive economic growth; skilled jobs are created also in remote areas and around 60 per cent of the revenues generated through the lifetime of a modern 3 MW wind power plant go to local construction companies, suppliers, service providers and communities.

Contact details
Christina Buttler, Communications Partner
Tel: +49 40 46778 5153/Mobile: +49 (0) 160 90141736
Email: chbut@vestas.com


Advances in Health Care / Re: Medical Attention
« on: October 19, 2013, 12:19:46 am »
Thank you for the advise and encouragement. I was going to send it today but my wife said it would be better to send it monday. I said they may get upset at my delay and she said probably not. They aren't in any hurry to do anything so as long as I don't answer they don't feel they have to act.

I said okay. Monday it goes out.

General Discussion / Re: Darwin
« on: October 18, 2013, 11:53:43 pm »
I hear you. I have felt exactly the same for most of my life. Only in the last year have I started to dig hard using the scientific method to test the theory of Evolution and I have come up with a fairy tale of great imagination but no proof.

I remember the arguments I had with my biology profs (none of them were atheists, by the way) where I agreed that evolution had taken place but the alleged proofs they were presenting on multi-celled algae and plants, cell formation and mitochondria migration were theories without proof.

I argued that 98% of mutations are harmful and that the DNA code forcefully rejects change, rather than easily accepts even a positive mutation.

I argued that the so-called "junk" DNA that comprises more than 70% of human DNA (practically ALL life forms have "junk" DNA) is THERE to be triggered by an adaptation. No new data is necessary (that was in 1989 - science has scince discovered that the "junk" DNA is not junk at all but a series of codes for genes to be turned on under certain conditions. I was right about that one!).

Each life form is distinct. Claiming we came from this or that just because you can make a bacterium produce insulin by inserting a DNA plasmid into it so it codes for insulin points at a creator, not random chance because WE are INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNING a bacterium that has NEVER produced insulin by chance. And Bacteria have had a LOT of TIME, according to evolutionists, to produce everything from antibiotics to sunscreen.  ;D Yet E. Coli bacteria, in all those millions and millions and maybe billions of years hadn't evolved insulin manufacturing ability (an EXTREMLY useful substance in a wide variety of life forms that would have given said bacterium and evolutionary advantage) until we engineered them to!

Many of my profs agreed that God started the ball rolling but he did it through evolution. I said, fine, but what you are showing me is ADAPTATION from a DNA package not  evolution through random mutation. When you can show me some random positive mutation that "evolved" one type of life form to another, then I'll agree we have proof.

Even those finches with all the different beak lengths and shapes that Darwin claimed were examples of evolution were NOT. It has since been proven that ALL the finch "different species" he drew were IN FACT, all of a single species. Their DNA PACKAGE enabled them to ADAPT to different conditions through different beak lengths.

They DID NOT MUTATE. They DID NOT EVOLVE. They could, and still can, procreate one with another, despite the different beak lengths.

So, all that said, let's go to the article you posted.

First, the reconstruction is an artists conception and a cruel joke. They don't have a clue whether this skull had that hair pattern or looked (as is the obvious intent here) as a missing link of some kind. It is NOT POSSIBLE to tell from a skull what a NOSE looks like. Now tell me, does that nose not look like a something between and ape and a negro? Can you say, agenda?

Second, if that skull is in a "2 million year old strata", they are NOT using carbon 14 dating. They are using the old, "it's in this type of rock strata so it MUST be X million years old because ALL of this type of strata has been DETERMINED (INTERPRETATION through the I.E. Rock strata column age hypothesis, not a fixed radio isotope dating method. WHY? Because they get embarrassingly widely varying data by 10s to 100s of millions of years of the SAME strata in different parts of the world) to be to be 2 million years old". IOW it's 2 million years old because THEY SAID SO (see the mungo man article above with a similar dating difficulty controversy).

Now suppose they find some Carbon 14 in that skull? What does that do to their "2 million year old rock strata" assumption.

The entire story is just that. When we can PROVE something is 2 million years old or more, then we can start talking about evolution. They have volcanic rock formed less than 50 years ago that DATES to over 3 million years old! So whether they are making geographic column strata assumptions or doing some type of radioisotope dating, they are guessing at the dates, not providing scientific proof of them.

Here's a great example. NOBODY had checked diamonds ( the hardest form of carbon and the hardest substance known) for Carbon 14 because they were ASSUMED to be milliions to billions of years old. Well, they have found Carbon 14 in diamonds. That means that unbelievable pressures somehow made these diamonds within the last 30,000 years. Crazy, right?

But let's drop the strata and fossils for a second and discuss living evolutionary mechanisms like our human biochemistry. We are supposed to be complex, VERY evolved critters, right? We are supposed to be higher life forms far more evolved than plants, right?

Well, they have now found that a few very primitive creatures like sea squirts and certain plants share with humans the production of biochemicals that have just recently been discovered (over the last 2 decades) to be vital to our immune system, neurotransmittion and pain signaling. These chemicals are called cannabinoids.

What's the big deal? They seem to have "defied" evolution! It doesn't make modern scientific sense for us to produce the same stuff that cannabis and sea squirts do if "evolution" constantly, over millions of years acts on all subsystems of life forms. I mean, evolutionists claim we went from single celled life forms to multicellular myriad life forms that populate the rocks, the land, the sea, the air and even sulphur vents on the bottom of the ocean. We late comers are EVOLVED, right? Are you going to tell me that our immune systems and pain signaling and inflammatory response was FIXED from the start and HASEN'T "evolved"? That's heresy!

But here it is. and they don't know quite what to make of it.

Dr Roger Pertwee: Department of Biomedical Sciences, Institute of Medical Sciences, University of Aberdeen, Foresterhill, Aberdeen AB25 2ZD, Scotland, UK

"I am excited about cannabinoids because they reveal that we have these marvelous systems in our bodies," he said "Where do they come from? Why are they there? The endogenous cannabinoid system, with its vast network of receptors and chemical messengers, deals with pain, muscle, motor function, thought, and mood. It's been detected in very primitive organisms, and yet it has survived evolution from very early on and therefore it must be quite an important system for us to have. It's a wonderful system to study."

The International Cannabinoid Research Society (ICRS), a group founded in 1991. The ICRS has hundreds of member-researchers studying "cannabinoids," which are marijuana's most interesting ingredients.


It simply has not occurred (because it is UNTHINKABLE) that, if we did not evolve but were created and plugged in to the package deal biosphere, his question answers itself. 

Advances in Health Care / Cannabinoids
« on: October 18, 2013, 09:47:02 pm »
NOTE: Human biochemistry produces cannabinoids. YEP, so does Cannabis.  ;D There is a LOT more to that plant than getting high! 

Cannabinoids produced in the human body have an anti-inflammatory effect

Jun 07, 2007

Endocannabinoids seem to play an important role in regulating inflammation processes. Scientists from the University of Bonn have discovered this in experiments on mice. Their results will be published in the distinguished scientific journal Science on Friday, 8 June. The study may also have implications for therapy. In animal experiments, a solution with an important component made from cannabis reduced allergic reactions of the skin.

Extracts of the hemp plant cannabis are traditionally used as a popular remedy against inflammation. At the beginning of the last century this natural remedy was even available at every chemist’s. But due to the intoxicating effect of the component THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) the plant was taken off the chemist’s shelves in the 1930s.

THC acts on the cannabinoid receptors, of which there are two types, CB1 and CB2. Both receptors are made such that THC can attach itself to them. In the brain this causes the intoxicating effect of hashish, cannabis and marijuana.

But why does the body have CB1 and CB2 anyway" For two decades it has been known that the human body also produces its own cannabinoids. Like THC they can attach themselves to the receptors. The brain scientist Professor Andreas Zimmer from the Bonn Institute of Molecular Psychiatry is investigating what the function of this endocannabinoid system is. ‘Mice without CB1 receptors show psychological abnormalities,’ he explains. ‘By contrast, CB2 regulates the growth of bones, for example.’


However, according to these most recent results, endocannabinoids also seem to play an important part in regulating inflammation processes. As is often the case with important discoveries, coincidence was involved. In scientific experiments mice are given an ear clip, so that researchers can tell them apart.‘ In most cases the mice can handle this without problems,’ Dr. Meliha Karsak, a member of Professor Zimmer’s team, explains. ‘With our mice this was different. The skin around the ear clips became inflamed.’ There are genetically modified strains of mice in which both cannabinoid receptors are dysfunctional.‘ And it was in precisely these strains that the inflammation occurred,' she explains.

Together with the Bonn dermatologists Dr. Evelyn Gaffal and Professor Thomas Tüting the researchers investigated these findings. Skin rash can be caused by allergens in laboratory mice. 'However, normally these rashes are only minor,' Dr. Gaffal emphasises. 'However, strains of mice in which the cannabinoid receptors are missing react much more intensely. We observed something similar when we blocked the receptors with medication.'

Step on the brakes

When inflammation occurs the endocannabinoids act like someone stepping on the brakes. They prevent the body from doing too much of a good thing and the immune reaction from getting out of control.

This is consistent with the fact that at the beginning of the infection the endocannabinoid concentration increased in the mice. 'Apart from that there are strains of mice in which the breakdown of these active substances produced by the body is malfunction-ing,' Evelyn Gaffal says. 'They have an increased endocannabinoid concen-tration in their skin. In our experiments these animals also showed a less marked allergic reaction.'

The results open up new options for the treatment of skin allergies and inflammation. Firstly, drugs which prevent the breakdown of endocannabin-oids look promising. But the old household remedy cannabis could also make a comeback as an ointment. In the experiment on mice this approach has already been successful. 'If we dabbed THC solution on to the animals' skin shortly before and after applying the allergen, a lot less swelling occurred than normal,' Professor Thomas Tüting explains. 'THC attaches itself to cannabin-oid receptors and activates them.

In this way the active substance reduces the allergic reaction.' Incidentally, ointment like this would probably not have an intoxicating effect, for this the amount of THC contained would be much too small.

Source: University of Bonn


Effects of cannabinoids on the immune system and central nervous system: therapeutic implications.

Molina-Holgado E, Guaza C, Borrell J, Molina-Holgado F.


Instituto Cajal, CSIC, Madrid, Spain. Francisco.Molina-Holgado@man.ac.uk


This review aims to improve understanding of the modulatory effects that cannabinoids exert on the immune system and CNS. Cannabinoids possess immunomodulatory activity, are neuroprotective in vivo and in vitro and can modify the production of inflammatory mediators, such as nitric oxide, prostanoids and cytokines, that are expressed by, and act on, the immune system and the brain.

The mechanisms of cannabinoid actions are not fully understood, but appear to involve complex interactions between cannabinoid receptors and a number of signal transduction pathways.

Endogenous cannabinoid ligands appear to act as local modulators of immune/inflammatory reactions. Cannabinoid-induced immunosuppression may have implications for the treatment of neurological disorders that are associated with excess immunological activity, such as multiple sclerosis and Alzheimer's disease.

There is anecdotal evidence that cannabis use improves the symptoms of multiple sclerosis, and studies with animal models are beginning to provide evidence for the mechanism of such effects.

The development of nonpsychotropic cannabinoid analogues and modulators of the metabolism of endogenous cannabinoid ligands may lead to novel approaches to the treatment of neurodegenerative disorders.

PMID: 18031185  [PubMed]


Advances in Health Care / Acute Inflammation
« on: October 18, 2013, 08:28:02 pm »

Note that cells that have been cut open can trigger an inflammatory response even if no invading bacteria are present. Why? Because some cell interior chemcals actually attack the cell walls of other cells in your body.

Advances in Health Care / When Inflammation is the ENEMY of Your Health
« on: October 18, 2013, 08:12:47 pm »
Here's the problem with modern disease in a polluted world filled with toxins from the point of view of our immune system programmed responses.

ONCE the immune system is breached, "things" tend to get out of control. What do I mean by this? I mean that INFLAMMTION is an immune response but, if it goes on for long enough, it is bad for you. Toxins cause inflammation, not because they are immediately toxic (many aren't and will be excreted) but because they trigger an inflammatory response that THEN causes other problems for the circulatory system which needs to provide 24/7

A: Oxygenation to each and every cell and

B: Nutrients

C: Garbage collection

SO, if you DO NOT HAVE AN INFECTION, you need to do everything you can to control inflammation. For example, Gypsymama has had **** skin that brings added problems because the tissue is inflamed (it is edemic and stretched). The reason it stings when she gets water on them is because her body mistakenly believes it is being attacked and sends the pain nerve signal to tell her brain there is a breach. IF her inflammation is controlled, the tissue with the rash has better oxygenation and nutrient reception. This enables her to heal quicker as she seems to be doing now.

When people are in the final stages of dying from cancer they get something called ascites  (the accumulation of fluid in the peritoneal cavity, causing abdominal swelling). It doesn't matter WHERE the cancer is, the body is trying, through a form of inflammation, to fight an infection that isn't there, not the cancer.

If I were that lady with the swelling issues, I would go out of my way to combat the swelling. Hemp oil and hemp seed oil are anti inflammatory, as well as possessing a wealth of cannabinoids that strengthen our immune system's naturally produced cannabinoids.

When a person has congestive heart failure (the large ventricle responsible for pumping blood all the way to your toes is too weak to do a proper job of it), the lower legs swell and fluid accumulation occurs in the lungs as well. The swelling, instead of making things better, reduces circulatory efficiency and oxygenation with tissue necrosis following anoxic cell death.

Diabetics get skin sores and mostly lose limbs because of poor circulation from excessive swelling caused by the disease.

Swellling is good when you have a cut or a bruise because immune system cells have lots of room to concentrate in that area and carry off any invaders to the lymph nodes (among several mechanisms the immune system engages in). Once the immune system decides through ABSENCE of certain chemicals that everything is hunky jake again, a series of biochemical reactions take place involving something called histones (I'm sure you have heard the term anti-histamine, right? It's related. They don't want you taking them when you have an infection because it is anti inflammatory).  The deal is those histones NEED TO BE SHUT DOWN when you don't have an infection.

The Native Americans used Willow Bark extract (later aspirin was made from it) as an anti-inflammatory. Many plants have anti-inflammatory properties. The info is available on the web and there are a lot of cheap and SAFE natural plant based topical anti-inflammatory applications.

I harp on this because inflammation, when not produced by an infection, is bad for you and needs to be stopped before other negative downstream effects like poor circulation begin to take their toll.

A dude that took three years of pre-med but didn't continue due to an ugly divorce. I still love the study of medicine, however.


Note the clotting response in systemic inflammation - severely inhibiting circulation IN PARTS OF YOUR BODY where there IS NO CUT!  :o

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