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Climate Change / Re: Future Earth
« on: August 28, 2014, 01:15:08 pm »
Climate Scientists Spell Out Stark Danger And Immorality Of Inaction In New Leaked Report

 by Joe Romm Posted on August 27, 2014 at 4:24 pm


SNIPPET (graphic at link)

Humanity’s choice (via IPCC):

Aggressive climate action ASAP (left figure) minimizes future warming and costs a mere 0.06% of annual growth.

Continued inaction (right figure) results in catastrophic and irreversible levels of warming, 9°F over much of U.S.

I didn't know that. My main education on Buddhism has come from Ka and some scholarly and long videos posted here over a year ago of a former Buddhist turned Christian.

It's good to know that some forms of Buddhism accept the existence of God.

I just read the Freud document. It confirmed some suspicions I had about his zeal in wanting to off religions in general and God in particular. One of my first posts here was on a document about Freud that Peter posted defending greed.

I argued vociferously against it and Surly agreed my argument had merit. So I started coming back now and then from TAE until RE recruited me into becoming a Renewable Energy NUT  author.

The guy (Mowrer)  that rocked the psychoanalytic free-for-all that Freud started had it EXACTLY RIGHT about human nature:

He writes: “The basic irregularity is not emotional, but behavioral. [The patient] is not a victim of his conscience, but a violator of it. He must stop blaming others and accept responsibility for his own poor behavior. Problems may be solved, not by ventilation of feelings, but rather by confession of sin.”4

From his position of prominence within the Ivory Tower of the psychoanalytic culture, Mowrer realized that Freudian psychoanalysis turns out to be “an archeological expedition back into the past in which a search is made for others on whom to pin the blame for the patient’s behavior.”5

I'll go farther than that! UB and many here talk about the horrors Homo SAPs, many of them alleged Christians in leadership positions, are inflicting on the world. And all the other non-Christians, say YEAH! But Freud is THE guy that CONVINCED predatory capitalists in Wall Street (New York City is a MECCA for Freudian psychiatry!) that GUILT was WRONG and it DID NOT MATTER how much the USA promoted revolutions, slave labor, mafia tactics, wars for profit, fake religious "Christian Missionaries" backed by the CIA to keep the rubes humble and willing to work cheap.

OH NO! Feeling GUILT for that was neurotic and must be avoided in order to have a HEALTHY and HAPPY life of the APEX PREDATOR. THAT was PRECISELY what snowballed the **** Capitalism and Wars PRE-Freud to the world class, no-holds barred demonic blood fest and Bling craze we are NOW SADDLED WITH!

It was REJECTION of Christianity and God that allowed GUILT to disappear from our leaders, not the LIP SERVICE espousal of it.

Sure, elite fucks have always been at that game. But NEVER was the rejection of common decency a guilt free exercise in business executives and government officials UNTIL Freud's bullshit became the "common wisdom". That "common wisdom" is that caring about other people or your employees is a WEAKNESS and NOT looking out for number one 24/7 is MASOCHISTIC. Only STUPID people do not put themselves above EVERYBODY else. What's wrong wid ya? Ya got an inferiority complex or sumptin'? Do unto others before they DO IT unto you! 

GAME THEORY came DIRECTLY from Darwin and Freud. Neither of those two paragons of prevaricating mindfork had ANY use whatsoever for God or Christianity.

MILLIONS of people have DIED and work in in slave conditions BECAUSE of Freud, Darwin and their bastard children, social Darwinism, Greed is Good, Guilt is Bullshit and Game Theory is how you WIN.  :evil4:

And then Christianity gets BLAMED for most of the 20th century EVILS  (that is THE century most people have been killed violently in numbers and as a percentage of the population as well!).

The ABSENCE of Christianity is the main CAUSE of those evils. Not that I expect non-Christians to admit it, but the reason they scapegoat Christianity so much is because THEY DO NOT WANT TO EXPERIENCE THE GUILT of looking in the mirror. 

Ashvin, I suggest you dwell on the subject of guilt. The responses (or lack of them) are quite revealing of the willingness of the debater to be objective about the human condition and the disposition (or lack of it) of the debater to seek the Truth.  8)

Ashvin said, "Very good suggestion! Here is a great paper about that. The following are two snippets, the rest can be found at the link."



The Second in an Occasional Series on the West’s
Most Influential Thinkers
by C. Wayne Mayhall


Sigmund Freud despised religion, theism, and the Bible, and, although his goal was to eradicate the problem of guilt, he is ultimately responsible for confusing it. His primary motivation for psychoanalysis was to transform guilt into neurosis and sin into sickness. Freud believed that guilt must be eliminated through self-analysis and that our struggle to transcend the stifling codes of culture is inescapable unless we are willing to break out of our moral prison. Freud viewed himself as a destroyer of conventions whose purpose was to dissociate guilt from sin, making it a problem for science rather than faith.

A careful study of Freudian thought reminds us that as long as people continue to believe in a view that relegates the problem of guilt to biological determinism and ignores individual responsibility, Freud is with us. Secular thinkers, for better or worse, consider him an architect of the modern mind, whereas Christian critics name him an unholy builder of said modern mind, in the line of Marx and Darwin.



In the summer of 1997, exactly one-hundred years beyond Freud’s first intense interaction with religious phenomena and the beginning of his own self-analysis in 1897, after two weeks visiting Nazi Labor and death camps in Germany and Poland, I came by Eurail to the foot of the Heumoz mountains in the Swiss Alps. There I boarded an incline for a ride up into the heart of Christian apologist Francis Schaeffer’s L’Abri Fellowship11 for a time of intense study and the opportunity, I hoped, to get my mind off the absurdity of Hitler’s “final solution.”

I arrived at the cozy retreat to discover it was between student summer sessions and virtually
abandoned. Alone in the Fellowship library, surrounded by hundreds of volumes of the thoughts of great thinkers, I came across a seventy-six-page book humbly titled Freud, 12 written by theologian Rousas J. Rushdoony.13 For the next few days, beginning very early in the morning and lasting long into the night, I explored his thesis that the central problem Freud confronted was the nature and character of guilt and the development of a method for its eradication.

As I write this article, a decade after that experience, I realize why I was so consumed by Rushdoony’s perspective. Five years prior to that trip to L’Abri, in 1992, I was an upstart professional freelance writer plying my trade for national magazines when I was commissioned by Harper’s magazine to do research on white supremacist groups in America. As I combed through stacks of their propaganda riddled with the rhetoric of hate and destruction, I was shocked when I came across a pamphlet blatantly denying that mass extermination of Jewish people had even occurred. I pledged right there and then to visit the sites of concentration camps myself one day, so that I could see it for myself.

At L’Abri, after fulfilling my pledge to wade through historical remnants of Nazi sewers of depravity, alone in that quiet place, my thoughts and experiences coalesced. I realized clearly the guilt of the white racist and the German fascist were cut from the same cloth, one denying the other fabricating a death machine responsible for the slaughter of millions of innocent men, women, boys, and girls. I saw in Rushdoony’s reasoning, how Freud’s desire to eradicate religion under the banner of illusion and eliminate guilt through the language of biological determinism let them both off the hook, with neither God to judge nor conscience to condemn them.


Ashvin said,
I distinctly remember even at that age sharing this internal feeling of rage with George who viewed their culture as both easy and degenerate. I view modern culture through this same lens.  We have in essence forgotten everything that was truly important and replaced it with with spiritual opium meant to make us feel good rather than to mature us or make us stronger.

As much as it may pain people like Michael Tsarion, John Lash, Jay Weidner, and Joseph Chiappalone all who claim to be “Gnostics”, we are here to be forged in the fires and trials of life so that when the time comes we are able and worthy to behold the face of eternity without turning away in shame.

Well said. I totally agree, not because of Az's fanciful idea that we are locked in groupthink, but because, nearing 70 years old, I HAVE tried out a lot of these belief systems seriously and found them wanting. And when I try something, I go for it 100%. I have the physical and mental scars to prove it.

I will add to what you said that a central issue here is the question of motive. Does a human seek comfort and bliss or Truth? New agers of all stripes claim that is one and the same. We know better. We know, from hard experience, that genuinely seeking the truth is PAINFUL. But that just gets us labeled as masochists by those who basically respond biologically, not spiritually, to spiritual truths.

That is, they AVOID PAIN like the plague and will go into every possible logical chain of unprovable, but nice sounding, premises they can come up with to justify comfort and bliss as EQUAL to Truth and any "groupthink" that does NOT put Homo SAP in the top dog position and advocates personal sacrifice in the service of a personal God is "ridiculous".

When the "ridiculous" label appears too transparently RIDICULOUS, then they go for the "you are being suckered by evil" meme in perfect Orwellian speak.  :evil4:
The adjective "ridiculous" is ad hominem baloney. f you disagree, argue the merits rather than cast aspersions on the narrative or the narrator.

Surly & GO,
Agreed. All this talk of aliens and reptiles are side issues that always come off as buck passing to me. The sin buck stops at Homo SAP. Many Homo SAPs just DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. Submitting to a higher authority is just not their thing. And the very idea that said Higher Authority requires worship and obedience when that is "ridiculous" for a Supreme Being (all these new Agers of course know exactly how a Supreme Being should think because they are well on their way to Supreme Beingdom!  ;D ). And they are humble too...

Yes, they agree, the world is all **** up, but that's not their fault or some sky God's fault either... All that evil stuff going on out there has nothing to do with human fallen nature of fairy stories about sin and guilt, etc. That's just ridiculous and so boring.

The common thread in ALL belief systems that reject the existence of a Supreme Being that we owe our existence to is that they do not DO guilt, remorse or acceptance of Homo SAP as a sinful fallen being. We are just nice chumps in a random universe and the bad "____fill in this blank with ANY entity as long as it ain't human___ ;)_____" are ruining our spiritual, happiness and bliss by various sneaky techniques that we must banish from our threatened Homo Sapiness so we can all live happily ever after.  And these folks have the brass to claim Christians believe in fanciful fairy tales!  ::)

And when they read what I just posted, they do the Orwellian two-step and claim that is exactly what Christian "groupthinking robots" do!

It's "perfectly logical" that we can be puppets of reptilians/ETs/groupthink herd following/fear of death escapism/cowardice/mother-in-laws (just kidding!  ;D) and other dark evil forces "out there" in the twilight zone of the random multiplex of universes but it's "just silly" to believe that there is ONE God who has a plan for our salvation in a fallen world. ::)

Ashvin, I suggest you dwell on the subject of guilt. The responses (or lack of them) are quite revealing of the willingness of the debater to be objective about the human condition and the disposition (or lack of it) od the debater to seek the Truth.  8)

In summary, I wish to say that Christianity, as Homo Saps practice it, is far from perfect; but in belief systems, it's way ahead of whatever is in second place.  :icon_sunny:

Te conozco bacalao, aunque vengas disfrazado.

Renewables / Re: The Big Picture of Renewable Energy Growth
« on: August 27, 2014, 01:37:51 pm »
US Renewable Electrical Generation Hits 14.3 Percent

In the first half of 2014 US wind energy hit 5 percent, while solar more than doubled.


Nuke Puke / Re: Nuclear Poisoning of the Pacific
« on: August 26, 2014, 10:36:05 pm »

Liquid Death Pouring Into The Ocean

 "The Fukushima-Daiichi calamity may well turn out to be, in the final analysis a truly mass extinction event in this once magnificent but now tragic and troubled little planet" says radio host Jeff Rense in this heartbreaking video.

 It is a well produced 22 minutes on the tragedy. He spells out what we are facing. We can't put a nice spin on it, we can't pretend it will dissipate and we can't listen to the authorities, especially not TEPCO.

Here are some facts:

-Radiation is killing the Pacific.

 -Plutonium and hundreds of different radio nuclides have been pouring into the Pacific, 24/7, since March 11, 2011.

-Fukushima fish carry 258 times the "safe" levels of radiation.

 -The cancer rates for children are up 14 times normal levels in Japan.

 And sadly, much more is explored along these lines.

 Thank you Jeff Rense!


 --Bibi Farber

 This video was produced by Jeff Rense
- See more at: http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/environment/our-legacy-a-dead-pacific-ocean.html#sthash.K7Cx1mmG.dpuf

Fossil Fuel Folly / Re: Fossil Fuel Propaganda Modus Operandi
« on: August 26, 2014, 01:53:14 pm »
With all due respect to the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy and the Alliance to Save Energy  ;D, energy savings lack an amplifier powerful enough to make their important signals audible over the supply-side hype, so efficiency continues to be underestimated or ignored.

This omission makes governments and firms misallocate even more financial, physical, and political capital to costlier, slower, and less effective supply expansions.

Reduced energy intensity could have fueled about three times as much recent global economic growth as increased supply, but the supply industries  :evil4: own more like 99 percent of the message.  ;)
Amory Lovins RMI cofounder and chief scientist  

Energy Efficiency: The Secret Revolution


Increased efficiency matters: lower consumption due to 1974–2010 drops in energy intensity was the largest single energy resource across the 11 IEA member countries’ aggregate total final consumption — bigger than either oil or the combined contributions of gas, electricity, and coal.

Had those 11 countries produced their 2010 GDP at their 1974 delivered energy intensities, they’d have used 65 percent more energy than they did. Reduced intensity has fueled half the world’s growth in energy services since 1970 — as much as all supply expansions. Who knew? 

Agelbert NOTE: The Fossil Fuel Industry BEAN COUNTERS KNEW and are threatened by that knowledge! 

And THAT is why the fossil fuel prevaricating and mendacious bullshit artists (Hi S3 Mking!   ;D) harp on the "math" of SUPPLY AND DEMAND. 

Te conozco bacalao / aunque venga disfrazado

How Often are Unarmed Black Men Shot Down By Police?

Snippet 1

o The most common reason for contact with police in 2008 was being a driver in a traffic stop (44.1%)
o Black drivers were about three times as likely as white drivers and about two times as likely as Hispanic drivers to be searched during a traffic stop.

Yet as we all should know, even though Blacks get searched more often during stops - police don't find more drugs or guns on them.

White New Yorkers make up a small minority of stop-and-frisks, which were 84 percent black and Latino residents. Despite this much higher number of minorities deemed suspicious by police, the likelihood that stopping an African American would find a weapon was half the likelihood of finding one on a white person.

So why then, exactly, are they doing it?  If stopping twice the Black people only generates half the guns or drugs, why does this happen?

Snippet 2

You can see that consistently from 2002 through 2008 that Black citizens encountering police received threats of force, or use of force at least Three Times More Often than White citizens. Latinos citizens were threatened with force, or had force used on them about Twice as Often.

If we are to use the example provided by Chicago as a rough guide, about 95% of these instances are being deemed "Justified" by the Police but that's not how the citizens feel about it.

Snippet 3

If the use of kicking, punching, tasering and pointing guns at citizens is felt to be excessive an average of 74% of the time - and is Three Times Higher for Black People - just what would the percentages of unjustified, excessive uses of deadly force really be like if we had those numbers?

Could it be as high as 80%, 90%?

Could it be so bad that the obviousness of it all would be plain for all to see? Just how bad is it? Maybe that's why, with all this number crunching already being provided by the BJS and Police Departments and the FBI - we still don't have that. one. strategic. figure.

Somehow I don't think that's a coincidence.

That's why we have people marching in the Streets in Ferguson, and Los Angeles, and New York this week.  People are marching for the truth. For Justice.  What we all used to not cynically laugh and call "the American Way..."

Maybe we should start to solve the problem by defining and quantifying the problem. Then we can measure if things are getting better, or if they're getting worse, if we're going the right direction or we're going the wrong way. Body cams or not, if we don't have raw data - we don't really know what's going on, do we?  None of us.

But I think we now have a clue, and it doesn't look good. 



Climate Change / Re: Pollution
« on: August 25, 2014, 10:30:10 pm »

Geopolitics / The Nazis and the Jews
« on: August 25, 2014, 08:51:22 pm »
Could it be that The Nazis recognized these proclivities in their Chosen Victims to begin with?  Karpatok

It's possible. But I think the NAZIs, being rather methodical converts to the Social Darwinian principle which they applied with "zeal" , simply recognized that humans are corruptible.

The mistake they made is assuming that a corruptible nature was something that they could "breed out" using breeding techniques involving killing the "misfits" and sponsoring the "promising" super race candidates. They completely missed that MINOR DETAIL that corruptible individuals, cheats, liars, double crossers and generally disloyal types are THAT WAY because of their spiritual condition. They actually let live Jews that HELPED or TURNED THEIR BACKS while other Jews were being herded to their deaths.

The assumption that Jews, as a whole, are a crafty corrupt people was the height of arrogance and willful blindness. It was convenient as hell because then the "Darwinian Principles" (the RELIGION OF THE NAZIs) could NOT BE APPLIED to the "IRREPARALY Damaged Homo SAPS called Jews" so it was "best" to just work them to death or/and kill them to keep them from breeding.

I don't think the big dogs running the scapegoating propaganda actually believed that bull****. I personally think the Jews were singled out BECAUSE they were an IMPEDIMENT due to their advanced culture of education and free argument and counterargument to the lock step loyalty demanding NAZI dictatorship. They knew they couldn't pull the wool over Jewish eyes. They also needed a "bad guy" to scapegoat. 

Like Darwin before them and the English before Darwin and the Catholic Crusaders before them and the Norse before them and the Romans before them (and so on), the National Socialists ASS-U-MED that they KNEW what a perfect super human should be like.  :iamwithstupid: 

In fact, they were (ALL THE ABOVE PEOPLES) SUCKERED into SELECTING for the most barbaric, ruthless, mind numbing, society destroying, war loving, arrogant, lock step unimaginative type of personality humans can have. They produced a self destructing pack of robots while killing off some of their finest intellects. The Germans of conscience were KILLED along with the misfits and later on the huge number of highly educated German Jews from many professions.

Where did the Germans go wrong? They were suckered by the Aryan myth and Darwinian Principles. What they thought they saw in the Jews was what they became because of their arrogance. Don't think it can't happen here. It has already happened in Israel.

Climate Change / Re: Global Warming is WITH US
« on: August 25, 2014, 07:35:10 pm »

Suggestion for people on ships that see lots of bubles coming up.

Do not light a match.   

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