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Title: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on June 03, 2017, 01:42:47 pm
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Book of Proverbs

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"Proverbs" translates the Hebrew word mashal, but "mashal" has a wider range of meaning than the short catchy sayings implied by the English word. Thus, while roughly half the book is made up of "sayings" of this type, the other half is made up of longer poetic units of various types. These include "instructions" formulated as advice from a teacher or parent addressed to a student or child, dramatic personifications of both Wisdom and Folly, and the "words of the wise" sayings, longer than the Solomonic "sayings" but shorter and more diverse than the "instructions".[7]

The Book of Proverbs (Hebrew: מִשְלֵי, Míshlê (Shlomoh), "Proverbs (of Solomon)") is the second book of the third section (called Writings) of the Hebrew Bible and a book of the Christian Old Testament.[1] When translated into Greek and Latin, the title took on different forms: in the Greek Septuagint (LXX) it became Παροιμίαι Paroimiai ("Proverbs"); in the Latin Vulgate the title was Proverbia, from which the English name is derived.

Proverbs is not merely an anthology but a "collection of collections" relating to a pattern of life which lasted for more than a millennium.[2] It is an example of the Biblical wisdom tradition, and raises questions of values, moral behaviour, the meaning of human life, and right conduct.[3] The repeated theme is that "the fear of God (meaning submission to the will of God) is the beginning of wisdom".[4] Wisdom is praised for her role in creation; God acquired her before all else, and through her he gave order to chaos; and since humans have life and prosperity by conforming to the order of creation, seeking wisdom is the essence and goal of the religious life.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Proverbs

Agelbert NOTE: Great scientists who pioneered the scientific method, unlike many present scientists, who worship at the atheist Darwinian altar, knew that Nature, that complex and magnificently ordered life matrix we observe, admire and totally depend on for our survival, also called the biosphere, must be obeyed. Francis Bacon, a wise man who WAS NOT an atheist, understood the message of Proverbs quite well. (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-020617175335.png)

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FRANCIS BACON: GOD AND ATHEISM

Sir Francis Bacon was critical in the development of the scientific method, and, thus, being a philosophical/scientific giant, atheists have attempted to recruit him as a supporter of unbelief. Again they do so in vain, as Bacon made his religious views quite clear in some of his works, and they are clearly reflective of Christian beliefs. Ironically, he also expressed his disdain for atheism, as shown below.

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"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy brings about man's mind to religion: for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity."(Bacon, 64)

“They that deny a God destroy man's nobility; for certainly man is of kin to the beasts in his body; and, if he be not of kin to God by his spirit, he is a base and ignoble creature.” (Bacon, 67)

“It is better to have no opinion of God at all, than such an opinion as is unworthy of him: for the one is unbelief the other is contumely; and certainly superstition is the reproach of the Deity.” (Bacon, 68)
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Bacon, F. The Essays of Lord Bacon. London: Longman  and Green Co., 1875.

http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/francis_bacon.htm
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 12, 2017, 12:26:16 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

(http://www.katapi.org.uk/images/Nature/Sower300w.jpg)

The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

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35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew  12:35-37

Enjoy this Country Western style singing of a Psalm David wrote:     (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/balloons.gif)

https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 13, 2017, 01:35:14 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

(http://www.katapi.org.uk/images/Nature/Sower300w.jpg)

The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

(http://www.artbible.net/2NT/REVELATION%20-%20VALLOTTON%20S%20DRAWINGS%20....DESSINS%20D%20A%20VALLOTTON/20%20VALLOTTON%2014%2015%20ANGEL%20REAPING%20THE%20HARVEST.jpg)
Enjoy this Country Western style singing of a Psalm David wrote:     (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/balloons.gif)

https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow

Parable no. 2 (vv. 24-30 the wheat and the tares) and parable no. 7 (the net which catches both good and bad fish) are illustrative of the fact that, as a result of the witnessing of children of the kingdom in this dispensation, there will be both genuine wheat and good fish, as well as tares and bad fish.

Not all who are caught in the net of evangelism are genuinely saved. The unsaved will be made manifest in the Day of Judgment at the consumation of the age.

Neither we nor angels, no matter how hard we try, wil be able to put the devil out of commision until the appointed time. The disciples wanted to pull out the tares planted by the devil, but were told not to do so until harvest time when the tares were going to be uprooted and utterly burned. See Jude v. 9.

Agelbert NOTE: It is one thing to not go out and kill the people you believe are pseudo-Christians dedicated to evil, but that doesn't mean we are not given sufficient discernment to know who they are. I am firmly convinced that Pat Robertson, Vice President Pence (and many other public figures that claim to be "Christians") are in the category of tares and bad fish. You know them by their empathy deficit, despicable, evil, destructive, hateful, war loving, rotten fruit.

Trump gets along great with those hypocrites. Is Trump the same as them?

(http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-040817140651.png)

As for Trump, he doesn't have the remotest idea of what Christianity is, and never has entertained one single thought of accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, except as a pose to con voters.

To non-believers, the difference between the Trumps and Pences of this world is irrelevant because they both obviously are people dominated by evil desires.

But according to Holy Scripture, the Trumps of this world, who never even looked at the seed of the Gospel or were never caught in the Gospel net of sound doctrine, are less guilty than people like Pence, Gorsuch, etc. et al, who drive potential converts to Christianity away with their in-your-face greed, lack of compassion, racism and bigotry while they simultaneously and shamelessly parade their sanctimonious guise of "Christian" beliefs.(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg) (http://www.opednews.com/populum/uploaded/wemeantwell-23439-20130307-234.jpg)

Judgment begins in the House of the Lord.

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17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? - 1 Peter 4:17 KJV

Continued tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 14, 2017, 01:17:04 pm
Agelbert NOTE: The parables taught by Jesus Christ have been frequently misinterpreted or even used to rationalize doing the opposite of what Christ actually taught. I am posting the following over several days in order to help clear up any misunderstandings among people of good will, along with eliminating self-serving rationalizitions often used by people of bad will.

Matthew 13:1-58

Eight parables are found here. In the first instance the parable is of the sower. The sowing of the seed refers to the Word of God.

(http://www.katapi.org.uk/images/Nature/Sower300w.jpg)

The seed, having grown in the good soil, becomes not only one but many believing witnesses cast into the world. Jesus explained that "the good seed are the children of the kingdom".

These parables are given so that we as the children of the kingdom in the world may know that we must expect opposition from the devil and his children.

In these parable, we are given the negative reaction to Christian action.

We must not try to uproot the weeds, representative of the evil ones in the world, because of our inability to judge rightly without the possibility of making a mistake. The ultimate disposition of the evil ones in the world will be accomplished by angels who are going to be sent by the Lord (v. 41) at the consummation of the age. Actually, the angels are designated as the final reapers of the harvest of our labor (v. 39).

(http://www.artbible.net/2NT/REVELATION%20-%20VALLOTTON%20S%20DRAWINGS%20....DESSINS%20D%20A%20VALLOTTON/20%20VALLOTTON%2014%2015%20ANGEL%20REAPING%20THE%20HARVEST.jpg)
Enjoy this Country Western style singing of a Psalm David wrote:     (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/balloons.gif)

https://youtu.be/XjEpB2ikkuE

Continued tomorrow
Parable no. 2 (vv. 24-30 the wheat and the tares) and parable no. 7 (the net which catches both good and bad fish) are illustrative of the fact that, as a result of the witnessing of children of the kingdom in this dispensation, there will be both genuine wheat and good fish, as well as tares and bad fish.

Not all who are caught in the net of evangelism are genuinely saved. The unsaved will be made manifest in the Day of Judgment at the consumation of the age.

Neither we nor angels, no matter how hard we try, wil be able to put the devil out of commision until the appointed time. The disciples wanted to pull out the tares planted by the devil, but were told not to do so until harvest time when the tares were going to be uprooted and utterly burned. See Jude v. 9.

Agelbert NOTE: It is one thing to not go out and kill the people you believe are pseudo-Christians dedicated to evil, but that doesn't mean we are not given sufficient discernment to know who they are. I am firmly convinced that Pat Robertson, Vice President Pence (and many other public figures that claim to be "Christians") are in the category of tares and bad fish. You know them by their empathy deficit, despicable, evil, destructive, hateful, war loving, rotten fruit.

Trump gets along great with those hypocrites. Is Trump the same as them?

(http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-040817140651.png)

As for Trump, he doesn't have the remotest idea of what Christianity is, and never has entertained one single thought of accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, except as a pose to con voters.

To non-believers, the difference between the Trumps and Pences of this world is irrelevant because they both obviously are people dominated by evil desires.

But according to Holy Scripture, the Trumps of this world, who never even looked at the seed of the Gospel or were never caught in the Gospel net of sound doctrine, are less guilty than people like Pence, Gorsuch, etc. et al, who drive potential converts to Christianity away with their in-your-face greed, lack of compassion, racism and bigotry while they simultaneously and shamelessly parade their sanctimonious guise of "Christian" beliefs.(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg) (http://www.opednews.com/populum/uploaded/wemeantwell-23439-20130307-234.jpg)

Judgment begins in the House of the Lord.

Continued tomorrow

In parable no. 3 (vv, 31,32), we have a mustard seed which is the smallest of the seeds taking itself an unnatural growth. Many confuse this parable with the often quoted "Faith as a mustard seed" teaching by Christ. Faith as a mustard seed is a good thing worthy of being sought out. But the parable of the kingdom, as related to a mustard seed's growth, is a prophecy of the corruption of the Church when it becomes unnaturally large.


 The tremendous growth of a tiny mustard seed to a plant nearly 12 feet tall is a metaphor for the secularization of the Christian Church. Christ never meant His Church to wield organizational power.

Bigness is unnatural in the kingdom of God but Christ told us what to expect. In these parables we have the history of the witness of the children of the kingdom foretold, just as in Rev. 2-3 the history of the church is foretold.

(http://worshiphousemedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/main/s/mm/vhp/mm/parableofthemustardseedintro.jpg)
The birds of the air are a metaphor for evil, just as they are in the parable of the sower.

(http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-140817124857.jpeg)

See Rev. 18 where a false church is called Babylon. God's genuine people are admonished to separate themselves from this church (Rev. 18:4).

Continued Tomorrow
Title: Re: The Wisdom of the Books of the Bible
Post by: AGelbert on August 15, 2017, 01:23:21 pm
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Continued from the previous post on this thread:

Parable no. 4 ( Matthew 13:33) about the hidden yeast represents the subtle influence of evil (the yeast) in the bread. In spite of the onfluence of the yeast, the bread is still useful for feeding and nourishment.
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The metaphor of bread containing yeast (notice that leavened bread grows LARGE while unleavened bread does not) represents the Church influenced by evil.

Some use this parable to justify pointing at the mainstream nominally Christan Church as the tainted, but still most important, source of the spiritual food and strength of Christ in the world. That is an erroneous, and altogether too modern mainstream church self serving, assumption. This parable clearly points to a remnant within, but by no means excluding the remnant without, the Church that together constitutes the Spiritual Body of Christ (i.e. Christ's Church on earth). The tremendous expansion of bread when it contains yeast is a metaphor for the secularization of the Christian Church. Christ never meant His Church to wield organizational power. Bigness is unnatural in the kingdom of God but Christ told us what to expect.

The Body of Christ is certainly not limited to the organized Church.

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In fact, in these dark times, I believe a greater part of the Body of Christ exists outside the organized Church "bread" hampered by the evil "yeast" than within it. Christ did not actually used the word "mix" in regard to the yeast; He used the word (when translated to Greek) "krypto", which means, "to hide or conceal". 

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If you are in a Church where the yeast has taken over, I am certain that Christ does not want you there. These churches prosper economically, grow massively and gain respect and approval from the secular government they serve. 

If you can manage to not get thrown out, even when you call out the behavior of the "yeast" in that Church, then stay. But if you are coerced to applaud a corrupted, prospertiy preaching, war loving, flag worshipping Orwellian version of Christ's teachings (by remaining silent before organizational church false doctrine), staying puts your Salvation in jeopardy.

The people in those yeast leavened organizational churches have gained the world, only to lose their soul. Tell them why you are leaving, pray for them and flee!

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Continued tomorrow