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Freedom & Democracy => Geopolitics => Topic started by: AGelbert on September 04, 2014, 09:06:44 pm


Title: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on September 04, 2014, 09:06:44 pm
Ukraine says ceasefire agreed with Russia (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/09/ukraine-says-ceasefire-agreed-with-russia-20149381824680485.html) (http://www.clker.com/cliparts/c/8/f/8/11949865511933397169thumbs_up_nathan_eady_01.svg.hi.png)

(http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/topstory/mritems/Images/2014/8/26/201482614174260580_20.jpg)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on September 06, 2014, 06:33:41 pm

The Islamic State, the Kurds and Generational War (http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/03/the-islamic-state-the-kurds-and-generational-war/?utm_source=feedly&utm_reader=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-islamic-state-the-kurds-and-generational-war)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on September 06, 2014, 06:35:42 pm
Russia has a deep-pocketed economic supporter that is also a staunch US ally (http://qz.com/258660/258660)
(http://img.qz.com/2014/09/prince-and-putin.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on September 07, 2014, 05:43:51 pm
Why Do Some Leading Atheists Abandon Reason and Get Bloodthirsty About Mideast Terrorism? (http://www.imgion.com/images/01/Angry-animated-smiley.jpg)                (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)

The data shows it's just wrong to blame religion for the causes of terrorism.

http://www.alternet.org/comments/belief/why-do-atheists-abandon-reason-and-science-theyre-so-proud-slightest-whiff-terrorism

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-190514231611.png)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on September 07, 2014, 07:16:55 pm
Ashvin,
I disagree with your view that there is some equivalent immoral posture on the Palestinian side. There isn't. A son of an Israeli General explains why below. The point I am making to you, my friend, is to never relate Jewish Ashkenazi ethnicity with the religion of Torah Jews. Ashkenazis, including most of the ethnically Jewish neo-cons that run both the governments of the U.S. and Israel, are either atheists or Reform Jews. Reform Jews, as a childhood friend of mine explained, DO NOT have to believe in God. They ARE expected to go to their Synagogue and are STILL considered "Jewish". I went to their synagogue a couple of times. I even saw a wedding once with crushing the glass foot stomping fun once! They view Orthodox Jews like "way out there" fundamentalist crazy uncles that must be looked after because, after all, the aren't chopped liver!  ANY claim to Orthodoxy is BULLSHIT.

And some of that "Orthodoxy", by the way is Talmudic. The Talmud is THE modern day version of GOTT MIT UNS that "justifies" doing WHATEVER to get the real estate that "JAWEH/JEHOVAH or G_d as many write it"  promised "the chosen people". Talmudic "orthodoxy is COUNTERFEIT orthodoxy that ALLOWS a RELIGIOUS OATH to be taken to promise to LIE to non-Jews! 

The Torah Jews have ALWAYS been AGAINST a Jewish state!


But never mind all that. I don't want to get into a long discussion on the Torah and the ENORMEOUS differences and IMMORALITY (according to the Torah)  that the Talmud claims is MORAL and HONORABLE and BLESSED behavior.

My point is that this is about ETHNICITY and a FAKE "religious" justification for MIGHT IS RIGHT, PERIOD. Every thing you say and know about radical Palestinian education and behavior is, and always was, a powerless outlier FINANCED by war profiteering PROVOCATEURS (NOT religious fanatics!), BLOWN UP in media importance and PROVEN to be partly FINANCED by the Israelis in a clever half a century and counting propaganda effort to mendaciously give Palestinian BAD GUY EQUIVALENCE to the GENOCIDE that Israel is waging.  :emthdown: :emthdown: :emthdown:

As a lawyer, you want to look at both sides of an issue. Fine. Watch the video below. It is TOTALLY objective. NOTICE the date. NOTICE that NOTHING has changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ&feature=player_embedded
An Israeli General's son tells the TRUTH!



I took the following screen shot and added some of the author's statements to underline the fact that there is NO WAY people should ever say, well, the Palestinians do this and that too! The terrorists ARE the Israelis, PERIOD! It's time for decent Jews to STOP defending State Sponsored Israeli Terrorism.

 (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-120814232335.png)

Ashvin said
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As I said before, it doesn't make any sense to me to only point out the immorality displayed by militant Israelis and not also point out the immorality displayed by militant Palestinians..
Well, consider that IF the main provocateurs in this expansionist "policy" are atheist ethnically (mostly) Reform Jews totally divorced from religion and totally sold on Social Darwinism, game theory and 'survival of the apex predator' as the only "morality" that counts, the duplicity would certainly involve using the RELIGION card to inflame the masses.  :evil4:  So they do.

Without said provocation, do you seriously think that Arabs, who have lived in relative peace there for hundreds of years (at least), would, because the Israelis looked non-warlike, take the war to them instead? I don't think so. Do you? If the Palestinians won't get aggressive if left alone, how can you ascribe equivalence?  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6656.gif)

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I know most people do not intend any sort of anti-Jewish sentiment by doing this, but that seems to be the practical psychological effect .

That's precisely what I am asking you NOT to assume is an unintentional effect  (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TzWpwHzCvCI/T_sBEnhCCpI/AAAAAAAAME8/IsLpuU8HYxc/s1600/nooo-way-smiley.gif)  from the Provocateurs.

WHY?

Because THAT is precisely what the game theory bastards that are running this "It's a clash of civilizations -I.E. RELIGIONS-" baloney are using to disarm Christians! It's the old "Israel is merely DOING IT TO THE PALESTINIANS BEFORE THE PALESTINIANS DO IT TO THEM" LIE.  The practical psychological effect was DELIBERATELY effected by the media mendacious and duplicitous reporting as far back as 1967! 

Ashvin, you KNOW how propaganda works. Your concern for an "anti-Semitic" (Ashkenazis and MOST Israelis are NOT Semitic at all!) backlash is exactly what the propagandists count on. Are you afraid Christianity will be demonized along with Judaism? Then WRITE about the ATHEISTS who are ethnically Jewish and their neo-con pals that have ABSOLUTLY NO USE for the Ten Commandments or a Supreme Being except as a propaganda tool. The exact same thing can be said of a lot of nominal "Christians" as well.

Thinking that telling it how it IS will open the door to a new holocaust or/and possibly undermine Christianity is an emotional response, brother. It's not logic based. We should VERBALLY ATTACK, not defend, those who USE religion as a devious front for war profiteering and genocide to muzzle those who fear a backlash. That is what the Israeli General's son does. That's what I do. That's what you should do too. 

If you think a properly run media would not clear up that mistaken idea that would spin off of telling the TRUTH about Israeli "policy" ("DA JEWS DID IT SO LET'S GIT EM' ") based on the FACTS on the GROUND in Israel, then it's because the propagandists have beat us by conflating the power mad goons running the mayhem with the Religion of Judaism. It's their cover! Stop letting them use it by claiming the Palestinians are equally at fault.

Proverbs 26:20  When there is no wood, the fire is extinguished, and where there is no troublemaker, strife ceases.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on October 28, 2014, 10:36:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvyQ0vVwjqc&feature=player_embedded
Prima Facie Evidence   :o   >:(
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on October 28, 2014, 11:51:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5xg3CuILI&feature=player_embedded

Published on Jan 13, 2012

Comment. This film was made by Dr Niels Harrit to document the BBC interview he gave to the BBC as part their 2011 'Conspiracy Files' series; which was basically an attempt to undermine the 9-11 truth movement.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)

It goes without saying that when it was all edited & spliced together Dr Harrit appeared to be simply another conspiracy nut & the interviewer a reasonable investigative Journalist just doing his job. This film however graphically shows the BBC in their true light & how they really conduct themselves away from public scrutiny. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil19.gif)

There are many comments on here of the opinion that the interviewer; BBC Producer Michael Rudin is just some type of incompetent or even ill-mannered BBC hack. It is my personal belief that he is much worse than that. He is most likely is one of many employed by the security services as agents working at the BBC. The BBC is basically a propaganda tool for the state, irrespective of what stripe of government is in power their function is always to manipulate public opinion in order to maintain the status quo.

Don't forget to pay the license fee & enjoy the brainwashing.  ;D


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on October 29, 2014, 01:30:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB2fHqnqZaE&feature=player_embedded
Three weeks notice for a 36 hour power down in the upper HALF of the WTC southern tower of the twin towers (where this man worked on the 97th floor) that took place September 8 and 9 of the year 2001... (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013200859.png)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 25, 2014, 03:20:19 pm
CNN Edits Out RT Host’s Nasty (Agelbert note: but truthful!) On-Air Dispute with Christiane Amanpour


by Andrew Kirell | 3:23 pm, November 24th, 2014

Russia’s state-funded cable news channel is taking aim at CNN for inviting an RT host to discuss Kremlin politics but editing out her fierce criticisms of the American cable outlet.

In the Know host Anissa Naouai appeared last week on Christiane Amanpour‘s CNN International nightly talk show to defend her network against accusations that it is part of Russian President Vladimir Putin‘s “propaganda war.” The conversation apparently took a drastic turn for the worse when the guest went after the host’s personal connections to the U.S. Department of State.

Ultimately, Amanpour told Naouai, the most contentious bits were unworthy of airtime and would certainly be edited out. In response to the edits, RT posted video of its half of Naouai’s satellite feed, showing her answers that were omitted from the final product. CNN posted the full transcript to its website in the interest of transparency; RT did the same.

To be clear: News outlets routinely edit pre-taped interviews — normally for timing purposes, but also to cut down on redundancies or rambling questions/answers — and so this is not at all an ethical scandal. As a pre-taped show, Amanpour makes its guests aware that they will be edited down for time. This particular interview, as you’ll see in a moment, happened to go very long.

But considering edits are a common practice in the news business, this story provides a fascinating glimpse into how and why words get left on the cutting room floor.

And when you compare the unedited clips to what actually aired on CNN, you’ll notice RT is correct about one thing: Most of Naouai’s direct criticism of the American network and its host were edited out for broadcast. At one point in the unedited transcript, Amanpour herself makes clear to Naouai that the personal attacks render some of the footage unusable for TV.

The first tense moment removed entirely from broadcast occurred when Amanpour suggested to the other guest, anti-Putin politician Mikhail Kasyanov, that Naouai admitted RT perhaps exaggerates the threat of neo-Nazism in Ukraine:


AMANPOUR: Is it more than exaggeration? And as such, is it a fair interpretation of what’s going on and what are the consequences?

KASYANOV: That’s not –

NAOUAI: I didn’t admit that it was an exaggeration. I said who are we to say that it’s an exaggeration as non-Russians. 30 millions of them were killed in World War II. I said, “Who are we to say it’s an exaggeration?” That’s what I said exactly.

AMANPOUR: No, you didn’t say that. You said they may – that might be an exaggeration, but then who are we to say that fears are exaggerated? I’ve got that on record. So don’t worry about it. That’s going to be played.

NAOUAI: Yes, I didn’t admit that it was an exaggeration.

AMANPOUR: All right. But you actually did and I’ll play it and you can dispute it afterwards if you like. But I will play it and it’s not a problem. It’s what you said.

Later in the interview, Amanpour asked Nauouai about another Russian channel’s error in covering the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 tragedy. The entire passage was edited out, but you can sense the conversation getting more strained as the RT host began to rattle off examples of CNN’s own errors:


NAOUAI: I have to point out that I don’t represent the Russian media, but RT. I know the image you’re talking about, of course. It should be pointed out also that that image was on the Internet for quite a couple of months – unfortunately this channel took the bait. They didn’t verify it. We did, of course. That’s why we didn’t show it. But to sort of condemn the First Channel for mistakes that we’ve all make –- and I remember very well Jim Clancy of CNN showing a video in Donetsk in May of this year of a supposed helicopter being downed by these anti-Kiev fighters. We went online; we checked the video. The video was from Syria. We never even saw a retraction from CNN. So it’s a little difficult to judge…

And the discussion truly went off the rails when Naouai brazenly accused Amanpour of being a state propagandist herself. (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif) Check out this bitingly personal exchange below, from right after the host asked Naouai if it’s “healthy” for Russian audiences to get only one view from RT. It gets ugly:


NAOUAI: t’s an absurd question coming from someone that’s propagated the line of the State Department for over 15 years. I mean, it’s absolutely absurd.  (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif)

AMANPOUR: Well, are you talking to me?

NAOUAI: Yes. Absolutely I’m talking to you. Who else would I be talking to?

AMANPOUR: Are you talking to me?

NAOUAI: Absolutely.

AMANPOUR: You’ve got to be kidding me.

NAOUAI: You’ve propagated the line of the State Department for over 15 years, starting with Yugoslavia and all the way into Syria. And now you’re doing it for Ukraine, essentially. Absolutely, I’m talking to you. (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif)

AMANPOUR: Oh, my goodness.  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/165fs373950.gif) Have you seen any of my reports about Syria? Have you seen any of my reports about Syria? (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg)

NAOUAI: I’ve seen lots of your reports and in not one report where you find you questioning the United States government and their policy. And we, with our Russian propaganda, question those arms to the FSA, question those arms to al-Nusra and other leagues. And now today we have ISIS.

Again, this was all removed from broadcast. According to transcripts, Amanpour began scolding her guest for not having an “adult discussion,” but Naouai simply responded that she’d like for CNN’s audience to be made aware of their host’s background. And that’s when the RT host invoked Amanpour’s husband, former State Department official James Rubin:


AMANPOUR: They are aware of [my past work], which is why they’ve been watching me for a long time. But listen to me, I would like you seriously…

NAOUAI: I’m glad they do, and I’m sure they know who James Rubin is, I’m sure they watch your work in Yugoslavia.

AMANPOUR: …as an act of research and as an act of education, go back and find all my work on Yugoslavia and all my work on Syria and match that with the policy of the United States government and furthermore, go back and watch what launched me and that was a to-and-fro with President Clinton challenging his policy on Bosnia and Yugoslavia. So Anissa, listen, I have respected you but I really don’t think that you should be doing this to me, of all people, on this – on this broadcast and on this satellite link. And you’re wrong. And I challenge you to go back…

NAOUAI: Yes, how dare someone tell CNN to check who their sponsors are, what governments they are working with! (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif)

AMANPOUR: No! No! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared002.gif)

NAOUAI: How dare someone come on CNN and say that!  ;D

AMANPOUR: No! Hey, excuse me, no, no, no, you just said whatever you wanted to say. When you become ad hominem to me, that’s a problem, because you’re not doing it from a basis of knowledge.

NAOUAI: Well, let your viewers decide, Christiane. I think that’s the fairest way out of this debate.    (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif)

Amanpour insisted that Naouai watch her antagonistic 1994 interview with then-President Clinton before making such assertions, and informed her guest: “You can be sure I’m not putting this on the air, Anissa. It’s a personal attack.”

Naouai said she is familiar with the interview and accused Amanpour of agitating for war in Kosovo.  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)
The CNN host finally ended it on this note, including an acknowledgement of the fact that she’ll have to provide a polite goodbye for the edited version of the interview:

AMANPOUR: Anissa, come on; you’ve lost me, babe. Thank you very much. Thank you very much indeed. I really appreciate it. I’m sorry; I thought we could have an adult  ::) discussion. And we can’t. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/tissue.gif) Thank you so much. Alright. Now I have to pretend to thank you.

Watch the edited interview as it aired on CNN below (at link).
THEN watch the truth filled  UNEDITED  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gif)portion RT aired (at link):

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-edits-out-rt-hosts-nasty-on-air-dispute-with-christiane-amanpour/



Agelbert NOTE: CNN is part of the USA fascist propaganda machinery. Russia is no saint be they are spot on here.   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/47b20s0.gif)


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-edits-out-rt-hosts-nasty-on-air-dispute-with-christiane-amanpour/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 28, 2014, 08:04:49 pm
Vladimir Putin: Traitor to the New World Order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W85OnL4xtY&feature=player_embedded

Vladimir Putin is NOT the enemy of Patriotic Americans.  (http://www.coh2.org/images/Smileys/huhsign.gif)

He is a burr in the saddle of the conscience free, cruel, war profiteering and planet polluting elite here and ANYWHERE else.

God Bless him!    (http://us.cdn2.123rf.com/168nwm/lenm/lenm1201/lenm120100200/12107060-illustration-of-a-smiley-giving-a-thumbs-up.jpg) 
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 28, 2014, 09:58:20 pm
Part 2 of Vladimir Putin: Traitor  to the New World Order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boC2D-iviI&feature=player_embedded
The planet polluting elite are DESPERATE to start a World War.  >:(
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 07, 2014, 12:30:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ApBK2coD-4&feature=player_embedded
September 11, 2001 was the day the last piece needed to convert the USA into a Fascist Police State was put into place.  :(


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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 07, 2014, 12:43:35 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRm8M-qOjQ&feature=player_embedded
Loose Change THIRD EDITION! The first ten minutes are EXCELLENT!
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 25, 2014, 06:44:01 pm
Peace on Earth             (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-301014182447.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F756Mjxxrvc&feature=player_embedded

SNIPPET:
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And in despair I bowed my head: (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2953.gif)
"There is no peace on earth," I said,
"For hate is strong and mocks the song
Of peace on earth, good will to men."
 

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-231214194953.jpeg)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 25, 2014, 08:15:19 pm
Homo Sapiens: A stubborn, stiff necked species that REFUSES TO LEARN.  :'(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZtNlZmnEMU&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7Rw03yhl4&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBYa_YGE5Y&feature=player_embedded

No, the Homo SAPS can't hear the bells a ringin'.  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2955.gif)
 


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 26, 2014, 10:57:16 pm
Hat tip to Surly1 for unearthing this gem: (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif)

2015 Will See Decisive Battles
The Empire is Crumbling, That is Why it Needs War
(http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40561.htm)

By Andre Vltchek

December 26, 2014 "ICH (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/)" - "Counterpunch (http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/26/the-empire-is-crumbling-that-is-why-it-needs-war/)" - -  Last night, in Beijing, I sat in a historic Szechuan restaurant with a friend who happens to be a Chinese diplomat. We exchanged some stories, ordered food, and then, suddenly, my throat felt dry and my eyes got misty.

I bowed and thanked her for the heartfelt offer China made to rescue Russia.

Just before leaving my hotel, I read the news on the RT:

“China’s foreign minister has pledged support to Russia as it faces an economic downturn due to sanctions and a drop in oil prices. Boosting trade in Yuan is a solution proposed by Beijing’s commerce minister.

‘Russia has the capability and the wisdom to overcome the existing hardship in the economic situation,’ Foreign Minister Wang Yi told journalists. China Daily reported Monday: ‘If the Russian side needs it, we will provide necessary assistance within our capacity.’”

By no means was I representing the Russian Federation here, in Beijing, nor was my friend representing China that night, at the dining table. It was an informal meeting attended by just a few friends, nothing more.

[float=left](https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10891573_10204875777348084_3004056330614101418_n.jpg?oh=41026abdefd91fd58ca7a8003425042d&oe=5501942A)[/float]Not to mention that I am not really, ‘technically’ a Russian. Yes, I was born in Leningrad but almost my entire life I spent elsewhere… all over the world, to be precise. And in my veins, not that it really matters; it is also all confused… there circulates an explosive mixture of Russian, Chinese and European blood.

But lately, to be Russian, to me and to many others, is much more than just about blood. ‘I am a rebel; therefore I am Russian’, to paraphrase Albert Camus. Or: ‘I am Russian because I refuse to abandon the struggle.’

‘Ya Russkii!’ or ‘Cubano soy!’ It simply feels good, and makes one proud, and stronger.

***

The world is in turmoil. Like in the early 1940’s, something tremendous is gaining shape, something irreversible.

Almost all of us who have been analyzing the Empire fighting against the propaganda and nihilism it spreads, and its venomous tentacles extending to every corner of the globe, know that ‘appeasing’ Western imperialism is clearly impossible, as it is impractical, and even immoral.

Just as George W. Bush (clearly borrowing from fundamentalist Christian rhetoric), liked to say: “You are either with us or against us”. Countries are now evidently put on the spot: ‘they either accept the Western neo-colonialist doctrine’, or they get destroyed, one after another, as were Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria.

No logic can help, no negotiations, no international mediation from the United Nations. The willingness to compromise is mocked. Appeals for simple human compassion do not move the rulers of the Empire even an inch.

It is clear that the Empire is preparing for the final assault. It will not back down. It will attack, destroy and annihilate. No idea when, but it will. And it will happen sooner rather than later, and with tremendous force.

Some would ask, why now? Why is there suddenly such a rush to fight the final battle for the total control over the planet?

The answer is very clear: for the first time disgust with the Empire is widespread, and worldwide. Many people are getting cured from blindness.

The mask of benevolence and rationality has been torn off by powerful media outlets based in the countries of Latin America, in Russia, China, Iran, but also in North America where the independent media is playing an increasingly important role. It is not even a matter of some elaborate ‘objectivity’, anymore. To get things right, it is enough to call fascism by its real name, as it is sufficient to identify mass murder perpetrated by the Empire on all continents!

The mask has fallen and what is now exposed is horrifying: the face of a monster, with blood and pus, a greedy grin and merciless fangs. It is a monster that is still in love with itself, unable to see its dreadfulness. It remains proud of its fundamental religious dogma, which it often doesn’t even see as ‘religious’. It dwells on self-righteousness, and at the same time, on its twisted market-fundamentalist faith that everything and everybody are for sale. It is a monster full of complexes – both those of superiority and inferiority.

It is not a happy monster and the people it produces are mostly miserable, lonely and scared. But it cannot change, it cannot back-up, it cannot let go. It would rather destroy its children and the world, than to admit that it went totally wrong, for years, decades and centuries.

Now many people have had enough, and some have even forgotten how to be scared! And the monster knows it, and it is actually scared itself, of those who are not scared of it.

The voices of the voiceless are now resonating louder and louder – we make sure that they are!

Except in the countries where the intellectuals and ‘elites’ have totally sold out, like in Indonesia or Malaysia, the horrendous deeds of the colonialism and neo-colonialism of Europe and North America, are finally being discussed, analyzed, and understood.

And the monster, the Empire, knows that it is the beginning of the end.

It cannot live as an equal. Therefore, it will fight its final battle. It will try to win. Or, it will try to destroy the world. Because life is not worth living for it, if it is not in full control; if its God is not in control, if it is not perceived as the enforcer of the divine manifesto.

***

When I visit a barbershop in Beirut or Amman, and am asked ‘where are you from?’ (It used to be a painfully confusing and complex question to answer, just a few years ago), I now simply reply: “Russia,” and people come and hug me and say, “Thank you.”

It is not because Russia is perfect. It is not perfect – as no country on Earth could or should be. But it is because it is standing once more against the Empire, and the Empire has brought so many horrors, so much humiliation, to so many people; to billions of people around the world… and to them, to so many of them, anyone who is standing against the Empire, is a hero. This I heard recently, first hand, from people in Eritrea, China, Russia, Palestine, Ecuador, Cuba, Venezuela, and South Africa, to name just a few places.

And that is why the Empire is now ‘in such a hurry’, unwilling to wait any longer, trying to provoke Russia, to bring it, metaphorically speaking, into yet another open epic battle, like the one that was fought in ancient times, on the thick ice, by Alexander Nevski.

The Empire is in too much of a rush, it is too scared to think, to understand, to remember, what every invader had to learned the hard way: Russia can be attacked and Russian people can be murdered by millions. There can be devastation and fire; there can be ruins, tears and graves, graves, graves… Mothers burying their sons, and sons returning back home, to only encounter ashes. But Russia cannot be defeated. When the survival of the world is at stake, Russia stands up, enormous, powerful and frightening. And it fights as no other nation can; it fights for humanity, not only for itself. And it wins.

When such a moment comes, there is only one possible way how to defeat Russia: it is to destroy the entire world.

Are you ready for that, Mr. Obama? Are you ready for it, corporate America and Europe? Are you ready for it, Pentecostal Christians, Televangelists and other morally defunct beings?

Final half of article HERE.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 26, 2014, 10:58:33 pm
Second half of:  2015 Will See Decisive Battles
 The Empire is Crumbling, That is Why it Needs War
By Andre Vltchek


Think twice. One more step, and you will find yourself facing two enormous nations, and dozens of smaller ones, ready to fight for the survival of a mankind.

Your only strength is in your weapons of mass destruction, and therefore in spreading fear. And most of your arguments have no foundations in truth, only in deception and lies.

This year, I witnessed your deeds in Iraq, in Eritrea, China, Ukraine, all over Africa and the Middle East.

This year, somehow, it appears that you went too far, that the proverbial drop has had fallen on Earth.

Stop! And stop torturing this Earth. Do not provoke, do not trigger yet another world war!

Stop, or there will be a fight. And you will lose, or we will all lose, but you will lose no matter what, because this time, Russia and China, Venezuela and Cuba, and others and many others, will not back down, anymore, while others will join.

***

Despite all of its terror, propaganda and brainwashing called ‘education’, the Empire is well aware that it is losing its grip on global power. And it is horrified, because it does not know how else to live, except with a whip in its hand. Planet Earth realizes that the ruler is sinister, ruthless and degenerate – some people realize it clearly using logic, others just sense it, intuitively. If there was really a global democracy, the people of our planet would throw the existing power structure straight to the dogs. But there isn’t, there still isn’t! Just look at the toothless, constantly humiliated United Nations. Almost everywhere, voting has become nothing more than an act of sticking a piece of paper into a box, and not much more.

***

The year 2015 is approaching. During that year, it will become clear who is fighting for the survival of our human race, and who is on the side of oppression, of imperialism, and of the Empire.

Next year, more and more countries will get destabilized or attacked. Perhaps millions of people will get killed, as they get killed every year, but most likely, this time, many more will. The ‘opposition movements’ manufactured by the West, as well as various Christian groups and other right-wing religious factions, will continue standing firmly on the side of imperialist oppression and market fundamentalism. Conservative petite bourgeoisie in the West and in almost all ‘client states’ will be battling to uphold their privileges. Fascist family structures will continue intimidating children and young people, preventing them from thinking, from rebelling and from living.

The Empire has many allies, all over the world, but most of them are of an extremely sinister nature. But their closest allies are always ignorance, servility and fear.

While our revolutions, the true ones, as well as the resistance and battles for a better world, are always based on knowledge, and in summary are nothing else other than an act of love.

***

The fight ahead of us will be extremely tough; it will be an epic struggle, involving great nation states, as well as groups and movements.

As the grungy Russian bear is being battered and provoked into a military conflict, great Chinese dragons are determined to form a protective circle, and this time, are declaring indirectly but clearly that they will come to the rescue of weaker nations attacked by the West. As even The New York Times reported:

“Mr. Xi did not mention the United States by name but took an unmistakable jab at Washington, saying, ‘The growing trend toward a multi-polar world will not change’, a reference to the Chinese view that America’s post-Cold War role as the sole superpower is drawing to a close.”

The goal is to never allow Western imperialism and colonialism to take control over the planet again, as it mercilessly did at the end of the 19th century and at the beginning of the 20th, at the cost of tens of millions of human lives.

After the centuries of plunder, **** and occupations, the West has no mandate to govern the world.

After constantly justifying and glorifying its terrible deeds, brainwashing our planet into believing that it actually brings progress and rationality to the savages (the rest of the planet), it cannot be trusted with ‘informing’ and ‘educating’ the people.

That is why we now have independent media, as well as powerful state-controlled media outlets based in the countries that are not willing to succumb to European and North American propaganda and indoctrination.

This media and education institutions should and will redraw the entire historical and contemporary narrative.

Some examples?

Instead of glorifying the wisdom of Founding Fathers of the United States, we should recall that North America was created on the unimaginable suffering of the indigenous people, on Christian bigotry and forced conversions, on genocide, and on theft of the land. And that it was not done by some new and extraterrestrial breed or race called ‘Americans’, but by the same European puritans and religious hordes that had already murdered for centuries, all over Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

‘New America’, both North and South, was predictably created on fear, violence and on theft.

We should recall the slaves who were brought in shackles from Africa. Most of them died when traversing the Ocean, women raped and humiliated, children raped and marked forever, men with their dignity taken away from them.

Women and young girls were then chained in the fields, becoming sexual toys for those ‘puritan’ white farmers. Men and children, at least those who survived, were made to work days and nights, until falling dead from exhaustion.

All this done under the shadow of the cross, progress, and ‘democracy’!

This is how America was built. This is the true story, the true narrative, of those ‘great beginnings of the land of free’!

And those theatres of Europe, cathedrals and churches, palaces and parks – all created from loot and genocides, colonialism and the Crusades, ‘military adventures’.

This is how the regime, how the Western establishment always functioned. **** is love. Indoctrination is education and information. Fear is belief. Slavery is freedom!

Do we want this kind of world for several more decades, even centuries?

I am not asking Parisians, Londoners or New Yorkers. I am not asking corrupt businessmen in Jakarta or deranged preachers in Kinshasa, top military brass in Kigali or the murderous feudal lords in Guatemala.

No humanist, no compassionate human being wants this sort of ****!

And for the first time, people are not afraid to say it, or at least to hear it, or read it!

I am not afraid to write this. Are you scared to read it? I don’t think so.

***

The ‘peace’, we were told about again and again, is something that has to be achieved and upheld by all means.

But what kind of peace are we aiming at, and peace for whom?

The Empire want a ‘peace’ arrangement, in which countries like Cuba and Russia, Venezuela and China, just back down, give up, and surrender. That is not peace!

We are asked, ordered, to live peacefully in a world ruled by European and North American masters, as some slaves crawling in filth.

Are we expected to succumb to the one and only religious dogma on which this entire racist, imperialist and capitalist system is built?

What a prospect, what a peace!

To them, to the imperialist West, peace means only one thing: unopposed rule over the planet.

If one fights for his people, he is a terrorist, a bandit. Then, it is a war!

The Nazis called resistance fighters in Ukraine or France, ‘terrorists’.

The Israeli military calls Palestinian resistance by the same name.

The West calls any legitimate rebellion, ‘terrorist’. Even MRTA in Peru was a ‘terrorist group’; MIR resistance against Pinochet was ‘terrorist’. The mainly social movement in Lebanon – Hezbollah – is defined as ‘terrorist’, and so is the entire proud Eritrean state.

Shia Muslims are ‘terrorists’, because the West is supporting Sunni monsters in the Gulf.

Che Guevara was a terrorist, and so were Fidel and sub-commandant Marcos. So was Lumumba.

To the West, to its lackey regimes and NGO’s, true peace will come only if all natural resources were offered to the multi-national companies. All left-wing, Communist and socialist movements would be butchered, if Russia were to return to that humiliated and shapeless **** it was converted into, for a short time, under the sneaky and brutal alcoholic Boris Yeltsin, if China turned back to the Deng Xiaoping days of only providing cheap products, labor and almost no global fight against imperialism! If Venezuela was to supply crude and **** its own people, as it used to, before the heroic revolution of Hugo Chavez, if Cuba sold its women and booze and cigars for a pittance, before its most dignified revolution took place!

‘Peace’ would be, if billions of miserably poor people were quietly and un-confrontationally dying in their slums, while the capitalists, preachers and landowners several neighborhoods further were enjoying their private clinics and private schools!

But such peace will never again be accepted!

To fight for a better world, and for the oppressed, is like writing a poem.

War is when you plunder and ****, when you murder in order to oppress, and to control others!

Peace can only be based on justice, on social justice especially; otherwise it is not peace.

***

Russia and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics fought for its survival on many occasions. Germans attacked it, then after the Revolution in 1917, the West Europeans and North Americans attacked, and then the Germans again. Tens of millions vanished defending the Motherland. Not one apology ever came from Washington or London!

China was forced open, humiliated, ransacked, including its capital city Beijing. Those who did it, the Brits and French, are now lecturing China about ‘human rights’ and ‘freedom’. It is truly grotesque!

Look at the other nations that are now standing up against Western imperialism!

Iran, colonized, destroyed when it took a socialist path, and then infected by a Suharto-style maniac, the Shah, later attacked by Iraq, after the West had armed Baghdad.

Latin America – was ruined by colonial and neo-colonial expeditions, for centuries, reduced to nothing by the ‘Monroe Doctrine’, with death squads trained in the US; trained how to kidnap and torture, and how to **** children in front of their parents.

Should we go on? Korea: tens of thousands of civilians were burned alive by US troops in tunnels. It was one of the most brutal wars in the history of mankind, aptly described by the most brilliant investigative journalist of the 20th century – Wilfred Burchett.

Indochina – 7 million were killed, bombed to death, or burned alive. Will we ever know how many? Vietnam is now an ally!

South Africa, Zimbabwe, Eritrea…

Yes, this is our alliance. Some 2 billion people who are living in the countries that were terrorized, brutalized, reduced to ashes, but that stood again and decided to fight, rather to live like slaves.

These are all imperfect countries, but countries peaceful to the core, countries that exist mainly in order to improve the lives of their men, women and children… and those all over the world.

And look at the other nations that are resisting Western attacks – Cuba, North Korea, Eritrea – ostracized, surviving countless terrorist attacks, subversions, propaganda, and destabilizing campaigns. And then, when they mobilize, ready to protect themselves, they are designated, and defined as ‘hermit states’ or ‘beastly dictatorships’!

Who forced them into a corner?

It is all twisted. Never again! Enough!

***

Do you hear that silence, after the US decided to ‘normalize’ its relationship with Cuba? We all know why there is such a terrible silence, don’t we? Because we realize that, based on the centuries of US involvement in Latin America, this will be part of a new destructive tactic, a new attack: that Cuba may now actually be facing the greatest danger in decades! We don’t know exactly what will happen, but we are somehow certain, that something very terrible will.

Is the West going to manufacture a ‘Cigar Opposition Movement’ in Cuba? Or is it going to be yet another color?

2015 will see many battles.

But the most important first step has just been made.

China made a great symbolic gesture: calmly, respectfully, but decisively. The message is clear: “You shall not be allowed to destroy others!” Not anymore.

The Empire is decomposing; it is sick, unsustainable.

But it is also toxic, and its illness is contagious. Its propaganda is mighty and its dogmas are violent.

Let us make sure that it goes away, crumbles, step by step, without destroying the world, without dragging it into WWIII.

Let us unite, individuals and nations, movements and parties. At least until the most dangerous period passes.

Andre Vltchek is a novelist, filmmaker and investigative journalist. He covered wars and conflicts in dozens of countries. The result is his latest book: “Fighting Against Western Imperialism (http://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Against-Western-Imperialism-Vltchek/dp/6027005823)”. ‘Pluto’ published his discussion with Noam Chomsky: On Western Terrorism (http://www.plutobooks.com/display.asp?K=9780745333878). His critically acclaimed political novel Point of No Return (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0977459071/counterpunchmaga) is re-edited and available. Oceania (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1409298035/counterpunchmaga) is his book on Western imperialism in the South Pacific. His provocative book about post-Suharto Indonesia and the market-fundamentalist model is called “Indonesia – The Archipelago of Fear (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0745331998/counterpunchmaga)”. His feature documentary, “Rwanda Gambit” is about Rwandan history and the plunder of DR Congo. After living for many years in Latin America and Oceania, Vltchek presently resides and works in East Asia and Africa. He can be reached through his website (http://andrevltchek.weebly.com/) or his Twitter (https://twitter.com/AndreVltchek).
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First half of article HERE (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/geopolitics/war-provocations-and-peace-actions/msg2455/#msg2455)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 27, 2014, 09:09:34 pm
THE STORY OF THE YEAR 2014

The failure of the NEOCONs to get WWIII started through the fun and mayhem in Syria, the Ukraine (MH17) and the recent cromnibus "appropriations" to BUY oil and gas infrastructure in the Ukraine and FUND propaganda against the Russians there too is THE story of the YEAR because it ties all the loose and rather desperate "ends" the fascists are up to in their Machiavellian zeal to justify WHATEVER to finish the job of obtaining the Apex Predator "brave new"ONE world gooberment of fossil fuel fascism.

The fact that this blatant and barbaric bullshit has been so brazen has actually united the BRICS in a currency battle against the dollar.

That is another blow to the NEO-Liberal EVOLUTIONARY DEAD END Predators 'R' US. We should have been in full blown war hysteria right now. If THAT had happened, the price of oil WOULD NOT have tanked. The WAR was part of saving fossil fueldom's bottom line! There are several historical examples of a "war" showing up RIGHT WHEN fossil fueldom NEEDED ONE.

Also, the HUGE effects of climate disruption making the Renewable Energy transition more imperative in the public's eyes would have been swept under the SUICIDAL Main Stream Media rug.

Our ASS is hanging by a thread but DOOM has been postponed BECAUSE the WAR these bastards wanted DID NOT HAPPEN.

Of course, they will keep trying   :P >:(. But it gets more expensive for them EVERY DAY.   ;D

People are absolutely DISGUSTED with our government. And I DON'T mean just people like us.

Just check out the comments on a Ralph Nader Article at Counterpunch. See the HUGE number of up votes for conservatives, no less, that say we have a fascist government and have lost our freedom!  :o

Sure, they think that we can "go back" to when we had freedom. LOL! But the point is people REALLY are pissed. This is a huge obstacle for the Bernays style government Modus Operandi for obtaining a Causus Belli scam. GOOD!    ;D


The top guy on their hit list is a tough cookie. They had better bring a sandwich if they are going to take him on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYr_5gRMFRU&feature=player_embedded
Russia's leader pets a Leopard. The cameraman got a good scare!  :o  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W85OnL4xtY&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boC2D-iviI&feature=player_embedded

AND NOW FOR A GREAT CAT FIGHT!   :D :

CNN Edits Out RT Host’s Nasty (Agelbert note: but truthful!) On-Air Dispute with Christiane Amanpour   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/3ztzsjm.gif)  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6869.gif)(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2mo5pow.gif)  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/swear1.gif)



by Andrew Kirell | 3:23 pm, November 24th, 2014

Russia’s state-funded cable news channel is taking aim at CNN for inviting an RT host to discuss Kremlin politics but editing out her fierce criticisms of the American cable outlet.

In the Know host Anissa Naouai appeared last week on Christiane Amanpour‘s CNN International nightly talk show to defend her network against accusations that it is part of Russian President Vladimir Putin‘s “propaganda war.” The conversation apparently took a drastic turn for the worse when the guest went after the host’s personal connections to the U.S. Department of State.

Ultimately, Amanpour told Naouai, the most contentious bits were unworthy of airtime and would certainly be edited out. In response to the edits, RT posted video of its half of Naouai’s satellite feed, showing her answers that were omitted from the final product. CNN posted the full transcript to its website in the interest of transparency; RT did the same.

To be clear: News outlets routinely edit pre-taped interviews — normally for timing purposes, but also to cut down on redundancies or rambling questions/answers — and so this is not at all an ethical scandal. As a pre-taped show, Amanpour makes its guests aware that they will be edited down for time. This particular interview, as you’ll see in a moment, happened to go very long.

But considering edits are a common practice in the news business, this story provides a fascinating glimpse into how and why words get left on the cutting room floor.

And when you compare the unedited clips to what actually aired on CNN, you’ll notice RT is correct about one thing: Most of Naouai’s direct criticism of the American network and its host were edited out for broadcast. At one point in the unedited transcript, Amanpour herself makes clear to Naouai that the personal attacks render some of the footage unusable for TV.

The first tense moment removed entirely from broadcast occurred when Amanpour suggested to the other guest, anti-Putin politician Mikhail Kasyanov, that Naouai admitted RT perhaps exaggerates the threat of neo-Nazism in Ukraine:


AMANPOUR: Is it more than exaggeration? And as such, is it a fair interpretation of what’s going on and what are the consequences?

KASYANOV: That’s not –

NAOUAI: I didn’t admit that it was an exaggeration. I said who are we to say that it’s an exaggeration as non-Russians. 30 millions of them were killed in World War II. I said, “Who are we to say it’s an exaggeration?” That’s what I said exactly.

AMANPOUR: No, you didn’t say that. You said they may – that might be an exaggeration, but then who are we to say that fears are exaggerated? I’ve got that on record. So don’t worry about it. That’s going to be played.

NAOUAI: Yes, I didn’t admit that it was an exaggeration.

AMANPOUR: All right. But you actually did and I’ll play it and you can dispute it afterwards if you like. But I will play it and it’s not a problem. It’s what you said.

Later in the interview, Amanpour asked Nauouai about another Russian channel’s error in covering the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 tragedy. The entire passage was edited out, but you can sense the conversation getting more strained as the RT host began to rattle off examples of CNN’s own errors:


NAOUAI: I have to point out that I don’t represent the Russian media, but RT. I know the image you’re talking about, of course. It should be pointed out also that that image was on the Internet for quite a couple of months – unfortunately this channel took the bait. They didn’t verify it. We did, of course. That’s why we didn’t show it. But to sort of condemn the First Channel for mistakes that we’ve all make –- and I remember very well Jim Clancy of CNN showing a video in Donetsk in May of this year of a supposed helicopter being downed by these anti-Kiev fighters. We went online; we checked the video. The video was from Syria. We never even saw a retraction from CNN. So it’s a little difficult to judge…

And the discussion truly went off the rails when Naouai brazenly accused Amanpour of being a state propagandist herself. (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif) Check out this bitingly personal exchange below, from right after the host asked Naouai if it’s “healthy” for Russian audiences to get only one view from RT. It gets ugly:


NAOUAI: t’s an absurd question coming from someone that’s propagated the line of the State Department for over 15 years. I mean, it’s absolutely absurd.  (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif)

AMANPOUR: Well, are you talking to me?

NAOUAI: Yes. Absolutely I’m talking to you. Who else would I be talking to?

AMANPOUR: Are you talking to me?

NAOUAI: Absolutely.

AMANPOUR: You’ve got to be kidding me.

NAOUAI: You’ve propagated the line of the State Department for over 15 years, starting with Yugoslavia and all the way into Syria. And now you’re doing it for Ukraine, essentially. Absolutely, I’m talking to you. (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif)

AMANPOUR: Oh, my goodness.  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/165fs373950.gif) Have you seen any of my reports about Syria? Have you seen any of my reports about Syria? (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg)

NAOUAI: I’ve seen lots of your reports and in not one report where you find you questioning the United States government and their policy. And we, with our Russian propaganda, question those arms to the FSA, question those arms to al-Nusra and other leagues. And now today we have ISIS.

Again, this was all removed from broadcast. According to transcripts, Amanpour began scolding her guest for not having an “adult discussion,” but Naouai simply responded that she’d like for CNN’s audience to be made aware of their host’s background. And that’s when the RT host invoked Amanpour’s husband, former State Department official James Rubin:


AMANPOUR: They are aware of [my past work], which is why they’ve been watching me for a long time. But listen to me, I would like you seriously…

NAOUAI: I’m glad they do, and I’m sure they know who James Rubin is, I’m sure they watch your work in Yugoslavia.

AMANPOUR: …as an act of research and as an act of education, go back and find all my work on Yugoslavia and all my work on Syria and match that with the policy of the United States government and furthermore, go back and watch what launched me and that was a to-and-fro with President Clinton challenging his policy on Bosnia and Yugoslavia. So Anissa, listen, I have respected you but I really don’t think that you should be doing this to me, of all people, on this – on this broadcast and on this satellite link. And you’re wrong. And I challenge you to go back…

NAOUAI: Yes, how dare someone tell CNN to check who their sponsors are, what governments they are working with! (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif)

AMANPOUR: No! No! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared002.gif)

NAOUAI: How dare someone come on CNN and say that!  ;D

AMANPOUR: No! Hey, excuse me, no, no, no, you just said whatever you wanted to say. When you become ad hominem to me, that’s a problem, because you’re not doing it from a basis of knowledge.

NAOUAI: Well, let your viewers decide, Christiane. I think that’s the fairest way out of this debate.    (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif)

Amanpour insisted that Naouai watch her antagonistic 1994 interview with then-President Clinton before making such assertions, and informed her guest: “You can be sure I’m not putting this on the air, Anissa. It’s a personal attack.”

Naouai said she is familiar with the interview and accused Amanpour of agitating for war in Kosovo.  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)
The CNN host finally ended it on this note, including an acknowledgement of the fact that she’ll have to provide a polite goodbye for the edited version of the interview:

AMANPOUR: Anissa, come on; you’ve lost me, babe. Thank you very much. Thank you very much indeed. I really appreciate it. I’m sorry; I thought we could have an adult  ::) discussion. And we can’t. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/tissue.gif) Thank you so much. Alright. Now I have to pretend to thank you.

Watch the edited interview as it aired on CNN below (at link).
THEN watch the truth filled  UNEDITED  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gif)portion RT aired (at link):

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-edits-out-rt-hosts-nasty-on-air-dispute-with-christiane-amanpour/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-edits-out-rt-hosts-nasty-on-air-dispute-with-christiane-amanpour/)



Agelbert NOTE: CNN is part of the USA fascist propaganda machinery. Russia is no saint be they are spot on here.   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/47b20s0.gif)


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-edits-out-rt-hosts-nasty-on-air-dispute-with-christiane-amanpour/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-edits-out-rt-hosts-nasty-on-air-dispute-with-christiane-amanpour/)

 
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 28, 2014, 04:44:21 pm

IF we STOPPED supporting the system of consumerism, materialism, and hedonism, the system would DIE. They could print all the money in the world and if we (or about 40% - that's all we would need to bring the bastards to their knees) REFUSED to eat ANYTHING but what we absolutely HAD to have to get by (and less if they jacked up the price!) and REFUSED to use energy for ANYTHING except the bare necessities and ALL lived the MINIMALIST life style REFUSING to have cable, REFUSING to change our clothes more than once a month (so we wouldn't use as much energy washing and soap to wash with), REFUSING to travel except to get food and go to work (and then WALKING or riding a bike as often as possible) and REFUSING to work ANYWHERE that contributes to FEED TPTB, they would be FORCED to stop their **** wars,  24/7 dehumanizing of everything good about human empathy, celebration of brutality and ruthlessness as a "Virtue" of the "Apex Predator" or go to prison.

Unfortunately, the likelihood of everyone simultaneously taking a vow of poverty voluntarily is statistically close to ZERO.

However, there are fundamental thermodynamic reasons why money will stop functioning as we move along here, so the poverty will come to all including the Masters of the Universe.

Article Coming Soon to a Laptop Near You.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191456.bmp)
RE


RE,
The possibility of the near term extinction of Homo SAP is closer to 100% without 40% of us adopting a (somewhat less severe than a vow of poverty) Frugality is Freedom Minimalist Mindset that WILL get Da "job" done.

I think the low probability of 40% getting with the Minimalist program is, as low as it is, the only plan that has a ANY chance of avoiding extinction. It's a Sophie's choice type thing but the CFS math favors the MINIMALIST pain for the perpetuation of the species gain.

It's harder for people like you with big bucks to see that because, if you adopted a Minimalist Mindset, you would feel deprived and less special in world that has taught you that money, is not just the mark of success, it's USE in the SYSTEM is the mark of intelligence. That is Wall Street brainwashing baloney. But comfort is quite seductive, is it not? Are those seduced by this "money must be put to work to make more money" mindset not busy rationalizing away how they are supporting fascism and pollution with their life style? That River in Egypt is the Wall Street Bernays special that works a LOT BETTER to ensure our comfortable suicide than the whip.

But I hear ya, good sir. You are a fairly astute student of human nature. I have had numerous, but gentlemanly, discussions with you about DAT. I have noted that you have a tendency to view the baser condition reflex pattern (see yeast, bacteria, ring circles and so on) as far more predictive of Dunbar number PLUS any number above DAT Homo SAP behavior than cooperation, empathy, caring (and so on, in a rather long, but usually ignored by the Darwinists, list of sappy human traits that Darwin himself claimed were ESSENTIAL to our survival as species).

It is an established historical fact that most humans are more altruistic than they are greedy. To judge the entire species by the evolutionary dead end traits of the most vicious, arrogant, mendacious, acquisitive and ambitious members that become leaders is statistically INACCURATE. They ARE the NUMERICAL minority.

You are adopting the Wall Street attitude of "leverage".  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183312.bmp)  You are saying these LEADERS will drive the sheep off the extinction cliff because the sheep are JUST LIKE THE LEADERS (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2932.gif) and are dominated (in numbers above the Dunbar number) by the same baser emotions and condition reflex pattern of conscience free predation as the leaders. That is just not so, RE.

But I admit I may be wrong and you may be right. But I will NOT let you dance around the CERTAIN conclusion you MUST draw from your analysis, study and conclusions about human behavior.

If you are right :(, then we are TOAST. There is NO HOPE WHATSOEVER. We will go extinct. All your erudition and all your intelligence and all you grasp of world economics along with Steve from Virginia's plethora of graphs about this, that and the other will do nothing to change this sad trajectory. You would better serve Homo SAPdom, with our alleged terminal case of the Dunbar limit dumbass, by writing about unicorns and strawberry fields forever because that, at least, can make you feel good while you wait for your ass to be grass.
 
All the horseshit from the "genius" at TBP (Quinn?) is just so much methane. All the stats by the money minded monkey bean counters who's graphs and self important screeds (that at least 98% of human beings don't read) won't meant ****.

There is NOWHERE TO RUN TO if when the biosphere stops supporting human life. The biosphere RUNS, not on tooth and claw (that's a TINY subset of it!) but on trophic levels that EAT, directly or indirectly, SUNLIGHT. The overwhelming biomass is autotrophic (phototrophic). ALL the trophic levels above them are TOAST if the autotrophs buy the farm. THAT is the STATISTICAL REALITY of life on this planet.

Your proposal of a breakaway civilization of highly intelligent, caring, cooperative and CFS Dunbar groups is a nice thought that lacks the corner stone of a viable biosphere. No Viable Biosphere = no brave new Dunbar group. That is the only math that really matters. And that math takes all that talk about the evolutionary "advantages" of the "apex predator" and makes it look like the anthropocentric Wall Street wishful thinking that it is. It's a fairy tale!

IT DON'T WORK DAT WAY! It NEVER has! Spencer made it up out of whole, unscientific  "cloth" (Herbert Spencer's new phrase "survival of the fittest" alongside "natural selection" was first published in the fifth edition of On the Origin of Species, published in 1869.). You have bought that dog eat dog fascist fairy tale HOOK, LINE and SINKER. You have extrapolated that Wall Street world view to all of human history, past and future, as the prevailing human condition.  (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TzWpwHzCvCI/T_sBEnhCCpI/AAAAAAAAME8/IsLpuU8HYxc/s1600/nooo-way-smiley.gif)

If Homo SAP is the "CEO" (i.e. the planetary biosphere's executive) because we are the only self aware tool maker here, the biosphere has a mental disease.

BUT, if the ones with mental disease are the pack of arrogant greedball crazies that temporarily steered humanity into suicidal behavior because MOST of humanity TRUSTED those lying sacks of evolutionary dead end "apex predator" **** FOR BRAINS, then the REAL evolutionary advantages of Homo SAP that include caring over conquest, empathy, altruism and so on, will, through peer pressure, not explosive violence, cure the Homo SAP disease and put us back on the path of HARMONY with the other life forms here.

Homo sapiens is a DERIVATIVE of autotrophic/phototrophic life biomass, NOT the Lord of the MANOR!

In Closing, enjoy this fellow Doomer that, like you and I, shares a realization that we are on the SURE path of Extinction if we do not change our civilizational trajectory. ENJOY!     (http://us.cdn2.123rf.com/168nwm/lenm/lenm1201/lenm120100200/12107060-illustration-of-a-smiley-giving-a-thumbs-up.jpg)
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Smarter Than Yeast?

Are humans smarter than yeast? We will know the answer all too soon.

About This Blog

I call myself S. cerevisiae because I enjoy good beer and because the more I observe the depletion of planetary resources by humans I tend to agree that as a species we are not proving to be smarter than yeast. This is my little corner of the blogosphere where I will rant about whatever I need to vent about, from the sorry-assed Minnesota Vikings to the even sorrier-assed (is that a word?-who cares) politicians who fiddle as the planet burns.


Hello NSA!

Greetings to my readers at the NSA! I've always assumed you were reading all this stuff anyway so this weeks news is no surprise to me. I remember being called an anti-American dirty hippie for speaking out against the so-called Patriot Act a decade ago, now the same ones who passed it are crying foul? The fourth amendment has been gutted over the last thirty years, mostly because of the war on (some) drugs, I don't remember a huge right-wing outcry over that.

 Privacy is so twentieth century.

But the collapse will render it all moot.


http://smarterthanyeast.blogspot.com/ (http://smarterthanyeast.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 28, 2014, 05:07:35 pm
Karpatok said,
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So am I, even if you can't see it. But thank you anyway. This is all true AG and the Perps need to be stopped and taken out. How do YOU propose it should and could be done. And please spare us FAKE DEMOCRACY and "WORKING WITHIN  THE SYSTEM" The system is dead and the JUNTA and CABAL operate for SATAN and the DEMIURGE OF DEATH. In such a demolished and dumbed down apathetic society, what can be the WAY?  PLEASE!                                Karpatok

These people are the problem:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-221014222208.png)

The solution IS NOT this:  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6348.gif)
Although I admit it has a certain appeal.  ;D But as a student of history, you surely know that it just passes the buck to another clever "king (or queen) of the hill" that then proceeds to grow the tyranny cancer from the democratic beginnings. See Yogi Berra and Deja vu all over again.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)

The hippies had it right in the 1960's. It was a workable, viable plan. That is why our gooberment stepped in and drugged them left and right to give them a bad rep with "respectable" people. The hippies were a HUGE threat to the MIC!

IF we STOPPED supporting the system of consumerism, materialism, and hedonism, the system would DIE. They could print all the money in the world and if we (or about 40% - that's all we would need to bring the bastards to their knees) REFUSED to eat ANYTHING but what we absolutely HAD to have to get by (and less if they jacked up the price!) and REFUSED to use energy for ANYTHING except the bare necessities and ALL lived the MINIMALIST life style REFUSING to have cable, REFUSING to change our clothes more than once a month (so we wouldn't use as much energy washing and soap to wash with), REFUSING to travel except to get food and go to work (and then WALKING or riding a bike as often as possible) and REFUSING to work ANYWHERE that contributes to FEED TPTB, they would be FORCED to stop their ****ing wars,  24/7 dehumanizing of everything good about human empathy and celebration of brutality and ruthlessness as a "Virtue" of the "Apex Predator" or go to prison.

If everybody VOLUNTARILY decides to be SUPER FRUGAL and live DIRT POOR even if they have the money or the gold or whatever to consume, then MONEY LOSES ITS POWER to undermine ethical behavior and morality in this country.

Yep. That is one tall order. But at the end of the day, TPTB are supported, as MKing correctly says, by every kilowatt hour we consume, every house we buy, every car we run and so on. Every gadget, every cell phone, every CD, every sound system, every cable subscription and even every internet subscription is a compromise that HELPS the CORRUPT status quo.

Well then, how come I'm not living in a panther cave?
Because I'm NOT a purist! I don't have the intestinal fortitude to take a vow of poverty like Knarf. Mea Culpa.

HOWEVER, if 40% of the American public had exactly the same "consumer" (see Orwell   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191258.bmp) ) profile that I do, The stock market would have collapsed, the real estate market would have collapsed, the town budgets would have shrunk from low real estate taxes from people living in 980 sq. ft.  houses or smaller and there would be no mortgage industry to speak of because everybody's house would be paid for.

The derivatives, tranches, scams and so on in mortgages would never have EXISTED. The price of oil would have crashed in 2003 from lack of demand. The Fossil Fuel profits would NOT have been able to buy the politicians they bought to get the wars going and the oil price climbing and torture escalating AND SO ON.

The entertainment industry would be bankrupt. The hotel, travel and tourism industries would be bankrupt. Most automobile manufacturers would have had to shut down. Most mall and stores would have closed, including Walmart! The PC gaming industry would have never taken off. Less than 10% of the electorate would vote! The main stream media would be a JOKE to Americans in any and all surveys put out by TPTB (their advertising revenue would TANK). No printed newspapers would be in business for at least ten years now..

But the internet would still be there.  :-[

In the above Agelbert Frugality is Freedom Scenario, TPTB would fight back JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE HIPPIES in the 1960's. IN fact, they ARE fighting back by using every trick in the book to make us believe we MUST support the system (and the saintly, holy- and so on- TROOPS) that BRINGS us all these GOODIES.

What will they do if we all say they AREN'T "GOODIES"?  What will they do if they see us making the CONNECTION between consumerism here and destroying a family or a piece of planet there?

They will try to RIDICULE, DEFAME, DEMONIZE and, if that don't woik, IMPRISON the leaders (in that order. It's cheaper and more efficient that way, ya know.  (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/hae51.gif)). And a few examples of killing the people making too much sense are in order to keep the rest of the sheeple in line, of course.   (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/hae51.gif)

My response is, SO WHAT? (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2z6in9g.gif) What have YOU GOT that makes me feel good about the traitors running my country and the planet into the ****ing ground? You've got NOTHING! Take your cell phones and distractions and shove them up your descending colon!  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/swear1.gif)

At which point TPTB do what they have always done when everything they try does not work. They go on a killing rampage with agent provocateurs starting it and the "new hippies" getting blamed. Works every time.  ;)   (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/hae51.gif)

But those of us left who know their tricks will continue to NOT work within the system. The financial elite pretend all this is a distraction because they own all the stocks anyway AND the government AND the Military AND the health care (and so on).

And we win. We win because TPTB NEED to make us work for peanuts so they can HAVE their piggery and Planetary Pillage. They are slaves themselves of gigantic consumerism and hedonistic world views so they just cannot get it through their heads that people would rather live in misery than support a suicidal world view.

What's different know from previous history is that people, in the past, resisted tyranny as a matter of justice, morality, and common sense. But what they were after was a reasonable level of HUMAN COMFORT AND PEACE.

There WAS a future. There WAS hope for a better world. There WAS more patience and willingness to give the new top dog the benefit of the doubt that he or she would not revert to the Lord of the Manor BULL****.


NOW, we KNOW that human comfort and peace is IMPOSSIBLE if TPTB continue their fascist business as usual. NOW we know we ALL ARE COMMITTING SUICIDE by supporting the corrupt system.

So we are given a choice to have some relative comfort while we commit suicide or undergo a lot of hard times and misery of dealing with a government that hates us because we won't consume enough to support the MIC fascism.

The CFS types will tell us that agelbert's attitude is suicidal along with being anarchic and stupid. I counter that, as compromised as I am because I don't live in a panther cave  ;D, I am waging a war for peace and justice with my level of frugality that nobody I know, except maybe Knarf, is willing to engage in to battle the CERTAIN suicidal world view of TPTB.

EVERYONE out there buying lots of STUFF is helping destroy our species. And FOR WHAT?

For COMFORT! You are BRAINWASHED! You have been told that comfort is GOOD! It's good If you aren't degrading the biosphere and democracy to get it! At that point you become a Quisling!

The MKings will tell you that if you consume ANYTHING AT ALL, you are as big a pig as they are and have no moral standing. That's false. WHY? Because TPTB operate MOSTLY on marginal profits. It's the old make a penny here and there and it adds up through volume sales. If the Frugality is Freedom Minimalist mindset is embraced by 40% or more of the populace, it's a death sentence for the MIC fascist status quo. Peer pressure will take care of the inertia of change.

People with a lick of sense CANNOT be bought for a COMFORTABLE SUICIDE. That is what most people are, in fact, accepting as what they GOTTA DO TO GET BY! (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/gen152.gif)

That's just plain STUPID, PITIFUL and, of course, aiding and abetting eventual HUMAN EXTINCTION.  (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb050.gif)

So yeah, Karpatok, we are between a  rock and a hard place. I recommend as extreme frugality as you can handle and the preaching of said lifestyle everywhere you can along with berating the materialistic DUMB ASSES shooting themselves (and the rest of us) in the foot FACE with their unethical  addiction to stuff.

THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE:

We must be willing to Starve to death, if need be, not for our principles or purity or purpose, but because TPTB are parasitic. Ticks cannot live without blood. They WILL NOT breed unless they have sufficient nutrition. WE-THE-PEOPLE are the host. Unlike the tick metaphor, WE are actually sticking a VOLUNTARY and UNNECESSARY IV in our blood veins and feeding TPTB. Pull that ****ing IV OUT of your arm!

IF 40% of us UNITE in a Frugality is Freedom Minimalist Mindset, most of us will not starve to death, ethical behavior will have a fighting chance of being what most of humanity embraces, our stupid view of the "economy" can be discarded along with the "might is right" insanity causing the pillaging of our planet and JUSTICE has a chance to exist among Homo SAPS.

In fact, it's our ONLY CHANCE to have a government based on CARING instead of CONQUEST, PERIOD.

Sure, a lot of people will die horrible deaths. The specter of dying of hunger or/and disease because you didn't work for the fascists or support their consumerist crap is terrible. :(

But the CURRENT PATH IS SURE to prevent the life of BILLIONS of humans in the future because there won't BE any humans in the future.

Violence is dumb, Karpatok. I possess the skills to do all kinds of horrendous things. If I wanted to, I could actually duplicate the grizzly scenario in one of those Tom Clancy books (without an A-bomb - I'm anti-nuke. LOL!). I know EXACTLY how to fly a huge airliner. I know EXACTLY how to fool ATC radar with certain transponder code settings that only someone who has programmed ATC computers AND been an air traffic controller will know about - And I would NEVER DO IT even if the devil himself, every fascist in the world and every corrupt and murdering MIC bastard were all gathered in a stadium for an easy hit BECAUSE they will be REPLACED the next day and they will MULTIPLY. Violence BREEDS VIOLENCE. I want LESS VIOLENCE. I want MORE LIFE, not more DEATH, COMPRENDE, AMIGA?

The fascists FEED on DEATH as well as our habits.

We must all make a choice. I have made mine. That is, to the best of my ability, to live the most frugal minimalist life possible to starve TPTB that feed on me. If I die in the process, I'll die knowing that, even though I might have lived longer if I had participated in a bit more fun in my dotage, had everyone emulated my lifestyle, humanity would not have gone extinct. As you see, I really am not misanthropic, even though that is the way a act sometimes.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)

I repeat, I have made my choice.
I ENJOY the fact that I live small and spend little. I do not hunger for this, that or the other (except maybe Volt   ;D (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png) ). Yeah, I'm a Christian. And that has a LOT to do with my supreme disgust with materialism. But this is NOT about religion. I do not think God is going to do JACK SH IT to keep us from reaping what we have sown. We've got to figure this out or perish, period.

Anyone that follows the Frugality is Freedom Minimalist Mindset pattern should sell ALL their stock, move to the smallest place they can possibly live in (and so on as mentioned above). They must STOP participating in the world of money as much as possible by severely downsizing their expenses regardless of their buying power. Said person must disparage demonize, criticize, mock and take every opportunity to embarrass worshippers of pecuniary wealth with hard, direct and angry vitriol about the fact that these people are aiding and abetting civilizational suicide.

My choice is not popular. So if you take it, you will not be popular. But you will be doing the right thing.

Any other choice, from violence to clever prose about Maslow's hierarchy and whatever that leads to doing zip to actually change the suicidal trajectory we are on is wrong.

I urge you to make the right choice.

For anyone reading this that makes the wrong choice (comfortable suicide leading to eventual human extinction), I have a question for you:

Do you feel lucky?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Nci-GVuHE
&feature=player_embedded

 (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080814213147.png)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 29, 2015, 01:32:50 am
‘We Are Going to Destroy the Greek Oligarchy System’

(http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb029.gif)
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-290115012653.png)
(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/looksmiley.gif)


http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/we_are_going_to_destroy_the_greek_oligarchy_system_20150125

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 29, 2015, 02:59:55 am
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“Syriza succeeded in selling an illusion that Greece can end the reforms and stop paying the debt, and still stay in the euro. This is impossible. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/165fs373950.gif)  If they do that the European Central Bank cannot accept collateral guaranteed by the Greek government,” he said.


Oh yeah???   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/cowboypistol.gif)


(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-290115024328.png)
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/we_are_going_to_destroy_the_greek_oligarchy_system_20150125 (http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/we_are_going_to_destroy_the_greek_oligarchy_system_20150125)
(https://allthoughtsworkoutdoors.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/p9047017-030close-up.jpg)


It's SHOW TIME! (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/121.gif)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 17, 2015, 07:33:12 pm
GO said (about ISIS),
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See what I meant? Can you feel it yet? Sense how fast they are moving, consolidating their gains and striking with renewed strength and vigor?

The musical director for David, a fellow called Asaph, was 3000 years ahead of you.  8)

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He wrote more of the Bible than Peter, James, Jude, Jonah, Amos, Micah, Joel, Malachi, Zephaniah, Habakkuk, Nahum, Haggai, or Obadiah. Interestingly enough, if we take the time to dig it out, the Bible tells more about Asaph's life than it tells us about any other author of scripture except Moses, David, Samuel, and perhaps Isaiah, Hosea, and Jeremiah.  :o

We know the times Asaph lived in (circa 1020 - 920 BC), from David's reign, through Solomon's to Rehoboam's.
http://www.hfbcbiblestudy.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=482

Asaph was VERY angry and depressed about just about everything turning to EVIL in his lifetime. In Psalm 73 he complains bitterly about how the Godless rich, who think God does not see their evil works, continue to prosper while good people continue to get the shaft.

This is just part of the EVIL that he lived through:

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After Solomon's dedication of the Temple, Asaph saw Israel's "golden age" turn into something quite apart from what he expected. After a promising beginning, Solomon turned his back on God and pursued power, wealth, luxury, and human wisdom,[3] as well as worship of other gods.[4]

To finance these pursuits the people were oppressed with slavery [5] and taxes.[6] Asaph saw Solomon become a wicked man who entrusted the administration of his Kingdom to other wicked men.

There is good reason to believe (see Appendix 5) that during Solomon's reign, Asaph's brother Zechariah [7] was assassinated in the Temple by Solomon's agents. Neither Asaph nor Zechariah would keep silent about Solomon's wickedness. Zechariah paid the ultimate price.

http://www.hfbcbiblestudy.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=482

Nothing new under sun, old chum. Evil is as evil does. 8)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-280914174538.jpeg)






Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 17, 2015, 07:37:03 pm
Surly said,
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Putin is going all over the world trying to make friends at a time when we are circling the world p issing people off.

Yep. Smart cookie.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191258.bmp)

Russian kitty:

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-260115151349.png)


World's impression of USA:


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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 21, 2015, 05:09:45 pm
Surly,
If we are going to define evil in terms of malice and aforethought (mens rea), our country is simply unmatched by any other in the history of the PLANET!

IF said mens rea does not count unless the crime of willful assault, torture, and death is perpetrated, the weight of the responsibility is on the party or parties committing most of the crimes, is it not?

What role does the MASSIVE FUNDING of these criminals by our mens rea fascists play in GO's evil rate increase calculus is a concern of mine. I think it plays too small a role. Hence my view that he lacks perspective. But there is more.

When this discussion devolved into counting dead bodies as the standard for evil behavior, it lost even more proper perspective.

UB and RE both state that , no ticket, no laundry, right? The "despicable pieces of shi t", as Ashvin correctly describes them, DO what they DO because they are FUNDED to do it. Of course they are evil. Of course they enjoy what they do. But they are FAR outnumbered by the barbaric pieces of shi t making up a certain percentage of OUR boots on the ground and OUR police officers in every large city and many middle sized ones in the USA!

And then there is the ACTUAL organized criminal element in this country. Ask your cop family about the kind of world class butchery that goes on in every American large city every day by these fucks. COUNT the bodies. SUM UP the tortured, raped and abused people of all ages from the aged to babies in all sorts of EVIL imaginative ways RIGHT HERE!

The fact that some of us, myself included, are highly uncomfortable with being in the crosshairs of a terrorist group that butchers Christians is not grounds for establishing that an evil presence is growing on the planet. Just because I am the target, it does NOT mean I am free to assume an increase in evil, does it?

Finally, just counting butchered bodies from accidents where allegedly NO EVIL agency was involved, FAR exceeds the pain of torture, decapitation, brutal dismembering, maiming and so on that the terrorists inflict. Just ask Our EMT Fox about the massive pain and agony accident vitims with crushed parts or dismemberment suffer from due to thousands and thousands and thousands of car crashes in this country every year. 

The entire discussion of ISIS, MISIS, WISIS or whatever name the papers come up with for dial a terrorist organization out there that we should shake in our boots about, what they do, and when they do it, is NOTHING compared to the number of deaths that occur in THIS country (one person is killed by a drunk driver every 53 minutes). Then there are the 125,000 average deaths per year by LEGAL prescription drugs.

I have my view of what proper perspective on the level of Homo SAP evil in this planet is as CAUSED by the planning, funding and execution of evil acts, as well as the planning for, and funding of, criminally negligent behavior by our government that results in thousands of needless deaths. I consider that evil too.

That is my perspective. I do not see it increasing.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 21, 2015, 05:16:52 pm
Thank you Surly and GO for responding in gentlemanly Diner mode.  (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif) 

I try to be polite here but, beneath the surface, if I let loose, my tirades would leave Karpatok in the dust! Early on, she recognized me as a potential freedom fighter and used all her considerable rhetorical skills and vocabulary to try to shame me into going out there and kicking some empire ass. Don't believe for a second that I haven't considered it. But Christianity, the real kind, does not justify tit for tat, period. Raulito figured that out towards the end.

Here, From Chomsky, is another reason I have very little patience for claims of an evil encroaching presence in the world (NOBODY has one upped the USA YET, GO).

Chomsky on the REALLY evil empire.   (http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000370273/polls_Smiley_Angry_256x256_3451_356175_answer_4_xlarge.png)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeaqOfvPiMc&feature=player_embedded


My Cousin was a great actor. But he was every bit as angered by, and FAR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE of, than most people in the USA in general, and the Doomstead Diner in particular, of the LEVEL of EVIL in this world and WHO is RESPONSIBLE for it.

THAT is what is just below the surface in Agelbert. Raulito reconverted back to Catholicism after doing the movie Romero. He went from Catholic as a child to Buddhist for most of his life and Catholic at the end. You can claim it was due to his method acting technique. (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2932.gif)  I suspect the IN YOUR FACE reality of massive evil in this world had something to do with it, PARTICULARY what PREDATORY CAPITALIST TERRORISM FUNDED BY OUR TAX DOLLARS visited on El Salvador. The Crusades, the Inquisition and ISIS butchery all amount to PEANUTS compared with the BUTCHERY in Latin America by OUR GOONS.

When you are a person that walks the talk, like Raulito, it gets REAL HARD to pretend there IS NO GOOD AND NO EVIL EITHER as the core beliefs of monism require.  He fought ALL HIS LIFE to live his principles through good deeds and millions of dollars in funding nutrition programs for the poor, not just to FEED the poor, but to get them a job and/or some land to FEED THEMSELVES, freedom movements for the politically oppressed and the defense of the environment in places like Brazil where Mking's pals KILL people for defending the rainforest,

Monism and Ethics

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In accounting for the origin of evil, a problem which, though it belongs to metaphysics, has important bearings on ethical questions, some philosophers have adopted a Dualistic doctrine and explained that good and evil originate from two distinct principles, the one supremely good, the other completely and absolutely evil.

This was the doctrine of the ancient Persians, from whom it was borrowed by Manes, the founder of the Manichean sect.

Opposed to this is the Monistic view, that God is indeed the cause of all that is good in the universe, and that evil is not to be assigned to any supreme cause distinct from God. Whatever explanation be given of the existence of evil in the world, it is maintained that a supreme principle of evil is utterly impossible and even inconceivable.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10483a.htm (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10483a.htm)

Monism is magical thinking in a world where evil agency exists that is opposed to good, and MUST BE fought! Karpatok believes that spiritual warfare is magical thinking. I beg to differ. I engage in it RIGHT HERE (and other places  ;)). And I will die doing it because it is the most efficacious way to FIGHT EVIL, PERIOD.

GO, believe it or not, I have a LOT more common ground with you  than you are aware of. Thomas Jefferson said that if you have a government powerful enough to protect you from all enemies and provide for your every need, you also have a government powerful enough to TAKE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE AWAY FROM YOU.

We are there.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183312.bmp)

THAT, as you have said often, is EVIL. I agree.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 21, 2015, 05:26:23 pm
GO said,
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Of course Agelbert, We old time regulars know each other and our acts towell to get pissed at each other. Was just ribbing you.

They say familiarity breeds contempt, but it is my observation the other is true.

Still waiting for a dissertation on Global Warming, and it better be good, no BS or Charts. My ice blue testicles and over a grand in oil bills so far demand an explanation.  :icon_sunny: :exp-laugh: :exp-laugh:

GO,
The extreme cold (and by the way, it's a LOT WORSE where I am than where you are or where RE is as well!) is a DIRECT consequence of GLOBAL WARMING. (http://www.coh2.org/images/Smileys/huhsign.gif)

If you will recall, we went through this subject last year around this time when I said 2014 promised to be hotter than hell (never been there but ya get the idea  ;D). You scoffed. 2014 was the hottest year on record.

Based on my track record of accuracy and integrity (see the numerous times I took Snowleopard to task for pushing fossil fueler mendacity and propaganda - something that always seemed to upset you for some reason.     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191404.bmp)I am going to explain to you what our FOSSIL FUEL OWNED GOVERNMENT is DOING to further f uck things up with their desperate attempt to put a DR. Strangelove Geo-engineered "heat shield" on the planet.

This is a quote from a recent discussion with Eddie.

QUOTE

February 16, 2015, 01:00:38 PM

 Eddie,
I believe geo engineering is quite advanced even though they (quote from our government "we will own the weather by 2025"     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)) don't "own" the weather yet. The reflective aluminum particles being sprayed routinely for over a decade now to keep our climate from over heating (see stretching the profits of fossil fuel oligarchs that OWN our government) are having several unexpected results.

1) the temperature extreme ranges have increased in degree span and rapidity of switching from normal to extreme heat or extreme cold is killing wildlife.

2) Vitamin D deficiency is now common in the USA when it was RARE just two decades ago. As a medical professional, you know that Vitamin D deficiency can lead to a plethora of deleterious health issues, including giving you lots of dental problems, never mind the weaker bones in growing children, early osteoporosis in adults and less immune system defense of several types of cancers.

3) Allergic reactions to the new toxins in the air for thousands of different species, including Homo SAPs.


4) There is a lot more
but that has to do with government media and medical profession CORKING of the reporting of, medical recognition of and proper treatment of humans experiencing harmful side effects from this profit preserving scheme for fossil fuelers trying to prevent or/and delay global warming.

Anecdotally, I have something to report that has me absolutely raging mad. The temperature is way too low for normal in Vermont. It's been that way for a couple of weeks. That long of a period with temperatures hovering just above or below zero (even in daylight) is NOT Vermont weather and, except for the little ice age centuries ago, never has been.

Even when it gets real cold, the animals survive BECAUSE the longer sunlight period in late February and early March enables them to warm their nests in the day. But when you F UCK with the sunlight by putting reflective particles in the air, this VITAL buffer that enables animal life to make it to the spring is gone. This is a DEATH SENTENCE for much of Vermont wildlife that doesn't hibernate.

Today I found an uninjured adult squirrel frozen to death. It was laying on our driveway. It's just another debt the MKing's of this world do not own up to with their profit over planet murderous irresponsibility.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bzb-1rVB8pc/UfXxBekcYVI/AAAAAAAAEm4/hXUkGCzFIPg/s1600/giveafuckometer-gif.gif)
F UCKING BASTARDS!

UNQUOTE

GO,
YOU and I are experiencing this SH IT because of people like YOU KNOW WHO. No Vermont town has EVER publicly broadcast over the TV and radio that people MUST leave their faucets RUNNING at pencil width of water. Winooski (just south of Colchester and slightly LESS Norh Pole F ucking Cold than Colchester) is telling Vermonters to do this in order to avoid huge expenses in road and frozen pipe repairs UNRELATED to the frozen pipes in homes. CLEAN water is being WASTED because of this COLD. People's water bills will not be raised but YOU KNOW we-the-people will end up paying for it somehow! They want us to leave the faucets running THROUGH March!!! Water pipes in homes are bursting from here all the way to ATLANTA, Georgia!

Do you think Mking and his pals are willing to foot the bill, or do you think, PERHAPS, that they will, ONCE AGAIN, disingenuously ask, "Uh, what happened to global Warming?".


"A buen entendedor pocas palabras bastan" = You, as a keen listener, do not need a lot of words to figure this out.  8)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 22, 2015, 10:38:29 pm
Who Are the Good Guys  ???

There is an easy way to tell if somebody is really one of the good guys who got famous. A whole lot more good people, just as good (or better), never had a following so we do not hear about them. The elite only notice GOOD people if they finger ELITE CRIME. That is how we-the-people end up learning about them.

1) While they are alive, they are ridiculed, reviled, cursed and demonized for having spoken truth to power by pointing out elite crimes (defending the poor and downtrodden is NO PROBLEM as long as you don't finger the elites as the responsible party - there are a LOT of people who are NOT good guys that do just that as a front  :emthdown:) to the point of A) getting a following and B) being imprisoned and/or tortured.

2) When they are dead they are celebrated.



Martin Luther King Jr. was a good guy.
Quote
We as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values… when machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism and militarism are incapable of being conquered.”
-- Martin Luther King, Jr. April 4, 1967




Gandhi was a good guy.

Gandhi's Seven Sins:
1. Wealth without work
2. Pleasure without conscience
3. Knowledge without character
4. Commerce without morality
5. Science without humanity
6. Worship without sacrifice
7. Politics without principle



Confucious was a good guy.

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"Is not he a true philospher who, though he be unrecognized, cherishes no resentment?

What you do not wish done to yourself, do not do to others.

I will not grieve that others do not know me. I will grieve that I do not know others.

Do not wish for quick results, nor look for small advantages.

With coarse food to eat, water to drink, and my bended arm for a pillow, I still have joy in the midst of these things.

Riches and honor acquired by unrightiousness mean no more to me than the floating clouds."

Confucious (Kung Fu-tzu or Kung the Master) 551 B.C. - 479 B.C.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 16, 2015, 03:10:25 pm
Watching History As Desperate
 Neocon Empire America Dies

By Karl W. B. Schwarz  3-7-15

 
SNIPPET 1:

Quote
The acts that have fueled the western media propaganda, such as the Maidan snipers, the Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk secession votes, and MH 17 were Neocon Agenda 201 and all have backfired in the Neocon’s face. 

So in desperation they now try to change the subject and the focus to the murder of Russia opposition leader Boris Nemtsov. My grandfather had an interesting way to define the word ludicrous as being “an ant walking up a female elephant’s rear leg with **** on its mind”.

There are no suspects yet in the murder of Boris Nemtsov, yet the Western media is already painting the picture for their readers and viewers that Putin is entirely and unequivocally to blame, just like the Maidan snipers, Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk, Russian invasions that have yet to happen, and the shooting down of Malaysia Air MH 17. Now lunatic Senator John McCain has stated that whoever did it, Putin is totally to blame. As many Americans know that is not the first time McCain has run off his mouth or has been an embarrassment to America.

All evidence is to the contrary on what the Western media is publishing and providing as hype, conjecture, rhetoric and propaganda and when necessary, just bald faced lies like Victoria Nuland. 

The western media and DC have the ‘case solved’ from afar, with no more facts to support their rhetoric than other claims they have made towards Russia. They cannot put any evidence on the table for it does not exist; it is just TV media ‘vaporware’ created by the Neocons and affiliated spin doctors. 

Such rhetoric and lies from the US and the media are part of the Neocon agenda towards Russia and any other nation on this planet that gets in the way and refuses to bow down to DC and the Neocon’s doctrine. 

I for one would be elated if Americans ever connect those dots in their mental fabric to recognize that conjecture is not fact, and assumptions and political spin are not facts, and neither are propaganda and hollow agenda driven rhetoric. And better, premeditated lies are not the Truth.

When the Western media rushes to point a finger of blame in the complete absence of evidence (or is being covered up by governments as is the case on MH 17) it is almost always (+99% of the time) the media bullhorn to shout down any dissent
, any questioning of what the facts really are and what the truth really is. Just accept the lies as the truth and go shopping, America.

SNIPPET 2:


Quote
The lust to control both the CIS Caspian Basin and Russian energy might is what Wolfowitz was talking about in 1992, and yes, Clinton as an unwilling Far Left Neocon played along to go after those assets so the USA would not have any rivals that have global power.

They missed their flight, because China and Russia got it done anyway in spite of the Neocon Doctrine. That is why you are seeing this idiotic stirring up of tensions with Russia and using Ukraine and the rest of the EU states bordering with Russia as cannon fodder. 

I guess many Americans do not realize that after Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan defused the threat of nuclear war between USA and USSR, then came Boris Yeltsin as president and Vladimir Putin was at that time the Prime Minister of the new Russia Federation. 

Some readers may know or remember the name Boris Berezovsky (23 January 1946 ­ 23 March 2013). He was the front man in the Yeltsin regime for CIA, MI6 and US and UK elites that coveted the huge oil and natural gas reserves of the Caspian Basin region. That also relates to the Wolfowitz comment in Paul Craig Roberts article regarding “the former territory of the USSR”.

When Putin ascended to his first presidency, Berezovsky fled to the UK because Putin was bringing charges of treason and financial crimes against him for throwing the doors open and lining his own pockets to let the West elites into the CIS region for natural resource plundering. Yeltsin was allowing the same within what is now the Russia Federation and Putin slammed that door shut.


SNIPPET 3:

Quote

If anyone wanted into the CIS region, Berezovsky was the ‘go to guy’ to get that done. 

Former CENTCOM commander General Tommy Franks almost let the cat out of the bag when he and Rumsfeld were before Congress in early 2001 after Bush was sworn in. Franks admitted that one of the primary missions of his command was ‘the Afghanistan pipeline and access to the natural resources of the CIS region’, which is ‘territory of the former USSR’ as Wolfowitz explained the Neocon Doctrine. Neocon Donald Rumsfeld had to hurriedly change the subject because that was about 8 months before September 11, 2001.


http://www.rense.com/general96/watchinghist.html

Agelbert NOTE:
Anyone who fingers Putin as the "bad guy" has  swallowed Neocon Agnotologist Propaganda hook, line and sinker.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183404.bmp)(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 16, 2015, 06:10:44 pm
We will ALL regret a nuclear war with Russia.   :P

The neocons want a nice nuclear war with Russia because the neocon demon-osophy loves war, destruction and mayhem. I'm sure certain economists would claim that would boost our GDP! LOL!

But let us look on bright side.  (http://www.coh2.org/images/Smileys/huhsign.gif) Yep, there really is one! A nuclear winter will stop global warming and over population... And, of course, off grid "living" will become the norm! No more worries about big industries, fluoride in the water, geo-engineering pollution from aerosol sprays, consumerism, thimerosal containing vaccines causing autism in children, Wall Street bailouts or inflation.

(http://static.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1325/NuclearWinter_5724848_lrg.jpg)

Such fun times we live in.  :P

The neocons are HELL SPAWN.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44NzktIorVc&x-yt-ts=1422503916&x-yt-cl=85027636&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 16, 2015, 06:18:22 pm
NEOCON MENS REA MODUS OPERANDI

Quote
When George W. Bush came along and crossed the line of separation of church and state with his federal funding of ‘Faith Based Initiatives’ and gravitated and solidified the Christian bloc on the Far Right, the only possible response from the Far Left (Obama, his appointees, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, et al) was to take on the masquerade of being Far Left / Right warmongering Zionist Christian Neocons, too. 

In case you missed this nuance, this was also when Bush unleashed the Christian Dominionista nutcases like Erik Prince and Blackwater USA to push the US Neocon agenda as private mercenaries. They loved that new concept because they do not have to discuss it with Congress at all. 

Get that picture straight in your head because now, both sides of the DC aisle, are trying to pull the US and Europe into a war with a nuclear superpower named Russia. And make no mistake in judgment, the new Russia Federation is not the USSR, they are not trying to reassemble the USSR, but this constant provocation by the US and NATO to its very borders has been called.

Russia has recently announced that further harassment and threat to Russia via Ukraine will get a military response. I figure that would be over in about 5 to 10 days even with just conventional weapons.


Quote
Merely pens and contracts have defeated the Neocons mantra of ‘mightiest military in the world’, and most Americans already know what the costs have been in American blood and money wasted on a brain fart that the Neocons are solely responsible for creating. They are not as important to history as they think they are except for the idiotic policy directions they have promoted and pulled off, and then go hide under their desks as the blowback hits back home and the entire world knows they misjudged again.

After the ‘GW Bush GWOT Disaster’ the Neocons felt they needed breathing room and rebranding. What we all knew as PNAC [Project for a New American Century] has now re-labeled itself FPI, or Foreign Policy Initiative. They did that quietly just like Erik Prince renamed Blackwater USA as “Xi” as if now the Chinese are pushing US mercenary and private military interventionism. 

There has been a coup d'état in America and it was the Neocons on both sides of the aisle that pulled it off. They had the assistance of the MSM because those idiots were told to and then just rolled over and never asked the hard questions. They never bothered to perform their function to investigate, report and inform the public with the truth. Many times when Americans think they are hearing the news all they are listening to was an anchor reading to them on the teleprompter something that was written by the Neocons or their associates.

http://www.rense.com/general96/watchinghist.html (http://www.rense.com/general96/watchinghist.html)

 (http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000370273/polls_Smiley_Angry_256x256_3451_356175_answer_4_xlarge.png)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 16, 2015, 10:03:01 pm
I never said Putin was the bad guy, but anybody who thinks he's a particularly good guy is demented. He's the baddest of a bad bunch, former Soviet KGB, who more or less stole the assets of the dying soviet Empire and divvied them up amongst themselves, with the tacit consent of the West, at the time.

He's a tough SOB oligarch who rules with an iron fist. Our oligarchs are stupid to **** with him so hard. They're very apt to regret it, and maybe sooner rather than later.

Absolutely correct.

Eddie and Surly,
And? I started the argument because I smelled some equivalence in the "smell the vodka" post  that IS NOT THERE (Eddie cleared that up, somewhat  ;)).  If you think it IS there, I respectfully disagree. Blood may be thicker than water, but OUR BEHAVIOR makes Putin's look like a Sunday school picnic!

The SAME PEOPLE that CAUSED 9/11 WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. Those people ARE NOT RUSSIANS!
(http://e.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/cocreate/imagecache/1280/poster/2012/10/1681757-poster-1280-1-clouds-over-cuba.jpg)
We've been down this road before. I know you guys are good guys and that YOU KNOW our country is one evil **** piece of ****. I agree that you both say so often.   (http://us.cdn2.123rf.com/168nwm/lenm/lenm1201/lenm120100200/12107060-illustration-of-a-smiley-giving-a-thumbs-up.jpg)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 22, 2015, 02:53:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrpLp-X0ws&feature=player_embedded
Any IDIOT that brings up the fact that Alex Jones pushes some wild stuff from time to time as an EXCUSE to UNDERMINE AND DISCREDIT the validity of what the above fire fighter says, can put there moronic, stupid, ignorant pap where the sun doesn't shine!  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/gen152.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhi139RxzUI&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BwZEgZgtT8&feature=player_embedded
Anatomy of a GREAT DECEPTION
The MENS REA of the FOSSIL FUEL GOVERNMENT in the planning, execution and cover up of this TREASONOUS CRIME is on FULL DISPLAY.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-241013183046.jpeg) (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/pirates5B15D_th.gif)  (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-object-015.gif)(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 22, 2015, 06:16:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMyvKxBjLFk&feature=player_embedded
The Fossil Fuel Government DOING WHAT IT DOES (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-141113183729.png).
 http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/video-audio/?utm_source=berniebuzz&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Watch+Bernie+on+the+budget+on+MSNBC+featuredlinkurl&utm_campaign=National+Bernie+Buzz+03-20
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 24, 2015, 08:56:47 pm
This may have contributed to the Lufthansa Crash - OR provided cover for bombing it to "send a neocon message" to Germany to stop trying to avoid "helping" to corner Russia in the Ukraine.  ;)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)

Half of Lufthansa long haul flights cancelled as pilots strike

 Pakistan Telegraph Sunday 22nd March, 2015


http://www.pakistantelegraph.com/index.php/sid/231280513

Quote
A Lufthansa vice president says the company is treating the crash of a Germanwings jet in France that carried 150 people as an accident for "the time being."

http://news.yahoo.com/latest-a320-good-safety-record-122642591.html

You don't get it? How about this comment from Paul Craig Roberts?


Quote
March 17, 2015 Cracks In Washington’s Empire

Paul Craig Roberts

Washington’s EU vassals might be finding their backbone. Britain, Germany, France, and Italy are reported to have defied Washington’s orders and applied to join the Chinese-led Asian Investment Bank.  http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/forum/index.php/topic,559.msg70935.html#msg70935

 (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif)

The "R" in the BRICS Bank means RUSSIA...


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 24, 2015, 09:17:13 pm
Quote
UK Citizen Won Law Case That BBC Had Advance Knowledge of 9/11

A British judge ruled in favor of a UK citizen who said that the BBC’s premature announcement of the collapse of WTC Building 7 proved advance notice and constitutes a violation of the UK Terrorism Act as the BBC did not report to authorities that the BBC was told the building was down before the event happened.

Very interesting..  :icon_mrgreen: Read here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/bbc-foreknowledge-of-911-collapse-of-wtc-building-seven-british-man-won-law-suit-against-bbc-for-911-cover-up/5438161 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/bbc-foreknowledge-of-911-collapse-of-wtc-building-seven-british-man-won-law-suit-against-bbc-for-911-cover-up/5438161)

Under UK law the police have to investigate, but Washington’s sock puppet Cameron will invoke “national security”   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/ugly004.gif) to block the police investigation of the BBC’s advance notice.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/03/23/uk-citizen-won-law-case-bbc-advance-knowledge-911/ (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/03/23/uk-citizen-won-law-case-bbc-advance-knowledge-911/)

Put your 19 Arabs with box cutters bullshit where the sun doesn't shine.

http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/geopolitics/war-provocations-and-peace-actions/msg2866/#msg2866 (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/geopolitics/war-provocations-and-peace-actions/msg2866/#msg2866)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 24, 2015, 09:45:04 pm
This may have contributed to the Lufthansa Crash - OR provided cover for bombing it to "send a neocon message" to Germany to stop trying to avoid "helping" to corner Russia in the Ukraine.  ;) :evil4:

Half of Lufthansa long haul flights cancelled as pilots strike

 Pakistan Telegraph Sunday 22nd March, 2015



http://www.pakistantelegraph.com/index.php/sid/231280513 (http://www.pakistantelegraph.com/index.php/sid/231280513)

Quote
A Lufthansa vice president says the company is treating the crash of a Germanwings jet in France that carried 150 people as an accident for "the time being."

http://news.yahoo.com/latest-a320-good-safety-record-122642591.html (http://news.yahoo.com/latest-a320-good-safety-record-122642591.html)

You don't get it? How about this comment from Paul Craig Roberts?


Quote
March 17, 2015 Cracks In Washington’s Empire

Paul Craig Roberts

Washington’s EU vassals might be finding their backbone. Britain, Germany, France, and Italy are reported to have defied Washington’s orders and applied to join the Chinese-led Asian Investment Bank.  http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/forum/index.php/topic,559.msg70935.html#msg70935 (http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/forum/index.php/topic,559.msg70935.html#msg70935)


 (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif)


The "R" in the BRICS Bank means RUSSIA...


So are you leaning towards sabotage rather than methane ?


From what I have learned of the descent trajectory of the aircraft (see gravity and rocks),
Sabotage is a no brainer here.

I know a thing or two about aircraft. They DO NOT come apart easily from some fuel tank explosion, explosion of hazardous cargo or from bird strike casued rapid decompression.

ONLY a very precisely placed, AND SUFFICIENTLY POWERFUL, explosive will cause them to turn into a bunch of rocks under the influence of gravity. That's the way that goes.

Modern jets are fly by wire(less). There are NO CONTROL CABLES going to the cockpit like there used to be. That saved a lot of weight. That also makes it REAL EASY to take the pilots "out of the loop" of controlling the aircraft through sabotage of the electronic redundant (main and backup) systems in the empennage and wing box.

You don't need a lot of punch to do that. But you do need a lot of punch to destroy the connection of the wings to the fuselage. I'm sure they did that.

Finally, you need to short circuit the coc kpit voice recorder link to the black box located near, or in, the empennage. That way, the pilots cannot report on what transpired after the explosion. IOW, the pilots have no voice, no control and no wings. So long, mom. End of story.

OTHERWISE, the plane glides or flies somehow for QUITE A DISTANCE before it crashes. The "glide path" of a ROCK is prima facie evidence of SABOTAGE or a midair collision.

There was only ONE aircraft involved in this crash (see Occam's razor).  8)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 24, 2015, 10:23:47 pm
Paul Craig Roberts linked to this article:   (http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif) 
Quote
NATO Is Marching Towards Russia, and They Have No Idea What Awaits Them

America is fully aware that the way to draw Russia into a conflict is to push forward towards Russia's borders. In time, Russia will be forced to defend its right to exist, and when this happens, western powers will not know what hit them

Stanislav Mishin

(Mat Rodina)
  opinion  Mon, Mar 23 |

http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/22/4790
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 26, 2015, 12:24:43 am
MEDVEDEV TO USA: TIME TO TALK ABOUT ALIENS, OR WE WILL…  

SNIPPET:
Quote

Now, regular readers here know that I'm nowhere close to the "disclosure" mania that infects the UFOlogy world with its very own special version of rapture prediction.

But, what is very telling in this case is that Dmitri Medvedev, Prime Minister, and at one time, President of Russia, is calmly telling the reporter(if you go to the first video linked in the article), that, yes, the Russian President is briefed on two things (1) the nuclear "football" with which he will launch Russian nuclear missiles in case of a general war, and (2) the presence of aliens and the special Russian security service (Men in Black, believe it or not) designed to trace them.
http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/medvedev-usa-time-talk-aliens-will/ (http://gizadeathstar.com/2015/02/medvedev-usa-time-talk-aliens-will/)

6 former members of Congress, and others, seek full UFO, extraterrestrial, disclosure


SNIPPET:
 
Quote

One step away from ‘ending the truth embargo’


By Shepard Ambellas

WASHINGTON D.C. (INTELLIHUB.COM) — At this point it’s clear that high-level officials within the Obama Administration, along with key members of the Central Intelligence Agency and NASA, are actively involved in the full on cover-up of the extraterrestrial presence on earth and off.

With only 150 billion star systems in the universe one can only imagine the possibilities. And ever since Roswell, one can only imagine the cover-up — the extent, on such a grand scale.

Although the truth is slowly coming out.

https://www.intellihub.com/6-former-members-congress-seek-full-ufo-extraterrestrial-disclosure/ (https://www.intellihub.com/6-former-members-congress-seek-full-ufo-extraterrestrial-disclosure/)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 26, 2015, 12:33:29 am
THIS is the documentary about MEN IN BLACK that Medvedev was talking about, NOT the idiotic Hollywood movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR014_jY7po&feature=player_embedded

Quote
Men In Black is the Documentary advised by Medvedev during an interview regarding how much the Russian presidents and institutions knows about aliens living on Earth, it doesn't say all what there is to say and some things are wrong, but it's a good start. Remember to believe only what you are ready to believe into..
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 26, 2015, 02:37:46 pm
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-260315143430.png)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 26, 2015, 07:36:13 pm
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-260315195505.png)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Flightrecorders.JPG)
A Flight Data Recorder (left) and Coc kpit Voice Recorder (right) mounted in the rear fuselage of an aircraft. Each has an Underwater Locator Beacon mounted in brackets on its front.

Please NOTE that they are RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. Please NOTE the DIFFERENT SHAPE of the Flight data recorder from the Coc kpit voice recorder.
  :icon_mrgreen:

The two recorders are required by international regulation to be capable of surviving the conditions likely to be encountered in a severe aircraft accident.

For this reason, they are typically specified to withstand an impact of 3400 g and temperatures of over 1,000 °C (1,830 °F) as required by EUROCAE ED-112. They have been required in commercial aircraft in the US since 1967.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_recorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_recorder)

Who wants to do the math on a 340 mph SLIDING stop?  ;) No, it was NOT A DEAD STOP BECAUSE THE DEBRIS TRAIL IS SPREAD OUT and the crushable area initial deceleration of the fuselage preceded the actual full deceleration of the black boxes in the empennage. IOW, they were somewhat below 340 mph when THEY began to decelerate along the ground.

Do you think MORE THAN THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED G's (forces of ONE gravity deceleration multiplied by 3,400!  :o) were pulled on those black boxes? (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2932.gif) I don't.

And for the record, the flight data recorder is DESIGNED to be TOUGHER than the voice recorder. They NEED that data far more than the voice to understand what went wrong and why. Flight data information is sine qua non for the successful detection of the CAUSE of a crash.

But ya know, just like there has "never been a steel reinforced skyscraper that was "destroyed by fire UNTIL 9/11"  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp), it was just "bad luck" that the most VITAL, strong and durably designed black box (the flight DATA recorder) was "damaged" while the LARGER, HEAVIER, BOX SHAPED, coc kpit voice recorder survived just fine so we could ALL HEAR the "BANGING ON THE COC KPIT DOOR"  and the "BREATHING" of the "lone nut" right to the end... 
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This STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN!
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 27, 2015, 01:02:15 am
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 27, 2015, 01:44:07 am
Final note for today about the A320 that makes the "lone nut" conspiracy theory VERY hard to believe.

Airbus A320

Above 16,000 ft. - Fly no greater than Mach .79

Vne/Mmo - Never Exceed/Maximum Mach Number = .90
Cruise Airspeed:· Mach .71 to .79

Descend with throttles at idle at initial descent. Set auto throttle to hold descent airspeed of Mach .65 to 16,000 ft. and 250 KIAS below 16,000 ft.
http://www.flywestwind.com/Hangar/Aircraft_Files/FOMs/A320FOM.pdf (http://www.flywestwind.com/Hangar/Aircraft_Files/FOMs/A320FOM.pdf)

what happens if you, BEING A LONE NUT  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp), TRY TO GET AROUND THAT without FIRST HAVING SABOTAGED THE AUTOPILOT AND THE ON BOARD COMPUTER THAT OVERRIDES WRONG PILOT MANUAL COMMANDS ON THE STICK AND THROTTLES? ???

The airplane is a fly-by-wire design, which means the pilot does not control the plane, the pilot is simply giving instructions to the computer that flies the plane. And the software has a flight envelope protection that would prevent the airplane from operating in any conditions that are outside of said envelope. Which means, that any attempt at making it OPERATE IN THE OVERSPEED CONDITION WILL BE disallowed by the avionics system. 

SOMEBODY TAMPERED WITH THE A320 COMPUTER(S) BEFORE THE FLIGHT. Forget the "lone nut"; it's a lie. And the pilot has been turned into another patsy by the fascist M.I.C.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183404.bmp)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 28, 2015, 04:29:11 pm
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View of a co-pilot (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp) ;) in an A320.

What the media, in regard to the A320 German Airwings crash, REFUSES to report (See the dog that didn't bark - Sherlock Holmes), that anybody that supports the scientific method is required to report:

The speed of sound at the temperature and altitude the German Airwings crashed was approximately 700 mph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound)

The reported speed at the time of the crash was 430 mph. The aircraft was WELL BELOW 10,000 feet when it crashed.

The flight envelope protection software will not allow the A320 to operate above mach .79 VMO ( maximum operating velocity). The throttles will be reduced to flight idle immediately when that condition is detected by the computers. At the pitch attitude (angle of descent) the A320 had when it impacted the ground, a velocity of 430 mph was impossible with engines at flight idle. At flight idle, the aircraft would have crashed at a maximum of approximately 280 mph.

Structural failure due to wing loading above Mach .90 is the reason that Mach .90  is VNE (never exceed velocity). When the A320 is between Mach .79 and Mach .90, the overspeed alarms are constantly sounding, as well as red warning lights blinking and ****pit messages scrolling on the data screens. All the sounds are picked up by the ****pit voice recorder. All the warnings triggered by the software are recorded on the flight data recorder.

Excerpts from  a normal flight of an A320:

With fly by wire technology, the aircraft cannot, under normal circumstances, bank the aircraft by more than 67 degrees from the vertical, pitch up by more than 30 degrees, and pitch down by more than 15 degrees. In addition to these, all maneuvers are limited in the stress induced to the aircraft to 2.5G. In the event of over speeding, the aircraft raises the nose gently.

The whole flight, and the navigation along the ground, is taken care of by the Flight management System on board the aircraft. The Flight Management System (FMS) integrates sensors, systems, and displays to give economy with a minimum workload.

A small white arrow on the electronic map, known as the Navigation Display, indicated the optimum point at which the aircraft should begin its descent. Firman requested for descent from Air Traffic Control 30 seconds prior and Henry began Mandala 276’s descent into Surabaya. All by the autopilot, of course.

The engines whined down, and the
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A small pink dot on the 2nd vertical tape from the left, indicating the vertical path deviation

aircraft began descending at idle thrust at 2800 feet per minute. A small pink ball on the primary Flight Display (PFD) indicated that the aircraft was 440 ft below the ideal descent path. A small lightning bolt drawn on the Navigation Display indicated the point where the aircraft would intercept the FMS computed descent path.

Most of the descent was performed at idle thrust, which speaks well about the economical management of the flight by the 320’s FMS. The aircraft reached the deceleration point, a point at which the aircraft starts slowing down, to facilitate the extension of flaps.

http://theflyingengineer.com/flightdeck/airbus-a320-experience/ (http://theflyingengineer.com/flightdeck/airbus-a320-experience/)

OF COURSE,
a "lone nut" co-pilot would know all the above and attempt figure a way around it, RIGHT? He would certainly ignore the alarms and try to keep the engine power form being reduced to flight idle even as he "fooled" the arcraft computers by keeping his angle of descent at less than15 degrees, wouldn't he?

But THERE is the rub. There IS NO WAY around the A320'S FIVE computers UNLESS you sabotaged the software. If, by some clever skullduggery, he managed to keep the engines throttled up, the INSTANT the wing load sensors picked up more than plus or minus 2.5 Gs (easy to do when flying BELOW 10,000 because the air is thicker - also the air over mountainous terrain is ALWAYS turbulent) at 100 mph or more above maximum safe speed, the computers are going correct that PRONTO.

There is NO pilot override to emergency computer action, PERIOD.

There is NO way for a pilot to modify the software of any of those five computers. That is a maintenance function. When a pilot enters a flight plan, the computer(s) software gives him all the options available, including climb, cruise and descent profiles. The pilot can pick from the choices presented to him, PERIOD.

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Why did the dog not bark?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbfVGIBcD8c&feature=player_embedded
Ground Proximetry Warning System (GPWS) Audio Alarms on the A320.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 28, 2015, 07:49:56 pm
“Diving” into the A320: Dive Speeds
18 Sunday Mar 2012

Posted by theflyingengineer in Flight Safety, Operations

Tags 0.89, 381kts, A320, A380, Airbus, Airbus A380, Authority, Dive Speed, Expedite Descent, Flight Test, High, HSP, Mach, MD, MMO, Overspeed, Proection, Sidestick, SPeed, Structural Damage, VD, VD/MD, VMO, Warning

An apparently “lesser known” fact about the Airbus A320 is the dive speed, its significance, and the associated consequences.

The dive speed is the absolute maximum speed above which the aircraft must not fly. Typically, to achieve this speed, the aircraft must enter a dive (steep descent), as the engines cannot produce sufficient thrust to overcome aerodynamic drag in level flight. At the dive speed, excessive aircraft vibrations develop which put the aircraft structural integrity at stake.

On the Airbus fly by wire aircraft, it is not possible to reach the dive speed, due to the flight envelope protections available in normal law.

If the sidestick is maintained full forward, and the airspeed crosses VMO/MMO (350kts), the pitch nose-down authority smoothly reduces to zero at approximately VMO (350kts) +16 / MMO + 0.04. This however, does not guarantee the airspeed stabilizing at this speed.

If (350kts) MMO + 0.04 / VMO + 20kts is reached or exceeded, then a structural inspection is necessary. Beyond MD (= MMO+0.07) / VD (= VMO + 31kts) (A320 family), structural disintegration can occur.


Here are the speeds for the A320, in Mach number and Kts. The lesser value must always be respected, at all times:


Dive Speeds: MD/VD = M0.89/381kts
Maximum Operating Speeds: MMO/VMO = M0.82/350kts.
Expedite Descent (as on FCU, if available) M0.8/340kts


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The graphical representation of speeds above VMO/MMO, (made by The Flying Engineer), gives you a clearer picture of the speeds, their significance for the FBW system, and the consequences.

To understand the seriousness of the VD/MD, take a look at the video below, which involves the VD/MD testing of the Airbus A380. The MD for the A380 is Mach 0.96, and the test crew dread taking the airplane that far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImSuZjvkATw&feature=player_embedded

http://theflyingengineer.com/tag/overspeed/

374 Kts = 430 mph alleged crash speed of German Airwings A320...

 knots versus mph conversion (http://www.metric-conversions.org/speed/knots-to-miles-per-hour.htm)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 29, 2015, 12:21:55 am
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 29, 2015, 09:35:40 pm
A320: Controlled Flight Into Terrain? .

Published March 29, 2015. | By Slogger

http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/blog/2015/03/29/a320-controlled-flight-into-terrain/ (http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/blog/2015/03/29/a320-controlled-flight-into-terrain/)

RE,
Thank you for posting this article.
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  Great info on all those accidents!  :o

However, unlike those other accidents, the LACK of communication from the coc kpit in this case is what makes me want to point at sabotage.  8)

Communication was not an issue in any of the A320 accidents. It certainly WAS here. The FALSE claim by the authorities that they could "hear the co-pilot breathing to the end"  :evil4: while all sorts of alarms were going off  says it ALL.  (http://www.u.arizona.edu/~patricia/cute-collection/smileys/lying-smiley.gif)

I do not believe that radio transmissions were leaving that aircraft, PERIOD. Even if a crazy man was at the controls, as they claim, they would NOT have been able to hear him breathing with the alarms going off.   

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If Lubitz was really that depressed, why was he allowed to fly? The truth is, he wasn’t. “He flew into a mountain because he was depressed/had split up with his partner” simply doesn’t hold water: follow the timeline back, and you will see that Lubitz had made a full recovery from his depression. He took a break from training six years ago because he was responsible enough to realise he needed to get his head straight.

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My point here is not to kick off yet another conspiracy theory.

Well, He SHOULD be. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/301.gif)  ALL REAL CONPIRACIES are detected by FIRST formulating a THEORY that FITS THE EVIDENCE. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif)

The press is NOT exposing a "flawed" rush to judgment; they are USING a TIRED MO with a LONG TRACK RECORD of "lone nut" branding to front run a witch hunt for TPTB in order to distract people from the Criminal State Sponsored MEANS, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY Occam's razor truth! The media behavior is EVIDENCE of collusion and Mens rea, not stupidity or ignorance!

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I’m just concerned (as an occasional depressive myself) that an attempt has been made by both the media and Lufthansa to make his depression seem contemporaneous with the A320 crash: it clearly wasn’t.

I'm a bit more than "concerned". I'm mad as hell at this OBVIOUS arm waving, hysterical "blame the victim" INFAMY while they don't say ZIP about the aircraft technology vulnerabilities and the REAL possibility of sabotage.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183312.bmp)

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... an analysis of transponder data by air tracker Flightradar24 showed that the plane’s autopilot had been manually reset from 38,000 to below 100 feet, immediately following which Lubitz began a steady descent at high speed.
  ::)

Thee above is OBVIOUSLY an assumption, not evidence (not even WEAK evidence!).  :P

It is CHILD'S PLAY to have a flight tracker interpret a software generated altitude assignment as a "manual" altitude setting. They do not have the flight data recorder data because it is "damaged" and they don't have the "QAR" (a maintenance flight data recorder in the coc kpit that has been used to access data in previous accidents) because that was probably destroyed on impact (it's not as robust as the flight data recorder).

Maintenance checks the QAR when pilots write up aircraft problems. So, they have ZERO evidence that a human actually toughed that altitude assignment nob on the autopilot.

"High Speed"? I don't think so (see aircraft flight envelope protection in my posts).

And they keep saying 38,000 feet! WTF!!? An aircraft is either assigned 37,000 feet or 39,000 feet. NOBODY is assigned 38,000 feet! The service ceiling (ability to control the aircraft within safe parameters) for the A320 is 39,000 feet. For a flight of that duration, 37,000 feet would be rather high, but they might be assigned it for traffic.

I see NO reason for them to ask to fly at their service ceiling for a "relatively" short flight. Perhaps the autopilot malfunctioned and the aircraft kept climbing after 37,000 feet. That might explain why a descent was initiated at 38,000 feet, if that is what actually occurred.

Ward did everyone a service by posting the A320 track record.(http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif) 
 However, I think he takes media hype a bit too seriously. When the media "rush to judgement", they are ALWAYS being DIRECTED to do so.

There is NO null hypothesis in regard to media action. The mainstream media is GUILTY until proven innocent. Ward should know that. 
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 29, 2015, 10:34:18 pm
another thing sloger didnt say is the black box is reported damaged so often these days, you would think they were never designed to withstand crashes.
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UB,
That comment you made got me to take another look at the crash site picture. And looky here what I came up with.  8) You will get a kick out of this. I am very good at putting puzzles together when I have easy color schemes to guide me.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191258.bmp)


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Picture taken in 2014 of the A320 in the crash seen below. Notice that a large part of the vertical stabilizer is intact. That white part you see is more a part of the tail boom on the empennage than the vertical stabilizer. Just beneath that is where the BLACK BOXES (much more robust than a vertical stabilizer) were located when the aircraft was in one piece...     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191404.bmp)
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 03, 2015, 10:26:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_Ezjm7xDg&feature=player_embedded

Are you open minded enough to listen to CFS from Christopher Bollyn?

If not, ANY claim that you are "open minded" is:
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Published on Mar 7, 2015


Christopher Bollyn 2015 “Solving 911 Ends the War”

In the name of 9/11, “wars have been waged, governments overthrown, and an untold number of lives sacrificed.” Yet 9/11 is an unsolved crime of terrorism and mass murder, with no trial and no serious investigation. This elaborately planned criminal deception was carried out “with the intention that the public would be deceived with a false explanation blaming the atrocity on Osama Bin Laden and Al Quaida....”

Christopher Bollyn states he has written “Solving 9-11: the Deception that Changed the World” because he could not remain indifferent and silent...”as the lies about 9/11 were used to wage wars of aggression and transform American into a police state.”

An investigative journalist from Illinois, Bollyn sojourned in Europe and the Middle East before studying languages, history and journalism at UC Davis and Santa Cruz. His degree in history focused on the Israeli occupation of Palestine. He has written in-depth articles about the Middle East, electronic vote fraud, the dangers of depleted uranium, and the history and geo-political background of 9/11.

In 2007, Bollyn and his family moved to Sweden when his research into 9/11 brought about his being attacked by undercover police and then charged with assaulting them. He began writing this book and has been touring in the US with the hope of raising the consciousness of the American public and exposing the true culprits.

Readers of his book have said it is “the top-notch work of the 9/11 collection and ...the work of a brave genius...information we can use to reformulate our worldview....gives me hope that truth and liberty can ultimately prevail.”

More information at www.bollyn.com.
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 19, 2015, 02:39:22 pm
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American Terrorism

The Hidden Government Group Linking JFK, Watergate, Iran-Contra And 9/11

By Peter Dale Scott October 7th, 2014

Peter Dale Scott is considered the father of “Deep Politics”— the study of hidden permanent institutions and interests whose influence on the political realm transcends the elected, appointed and career officials who come and go.

A Professor of English at Berkeley and a former Canadian diplomat, he is the author of several critically acclaimed books on the pivotal events of our country’s recent past, including Deep Politics and the Death of JFK ; Drugs, Oil, and War: The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina (War and Peace Library); The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America and  American War Machine: Deep Politics, the CIA Global Drug Connection, and the Road to Afghanistan (War and Peace Library). He is also a poet, whose long work, Coming to Jakarta: A Poem about Terror, was hailed as “the most important political poem to appear in the English language in a very long time,” by Robert Hass, Poet Laureate of the United States from 1995 to 1997.

Daniel Ellsberg said of his book Drugs, Oil and War, “It makes most academic and journalistic explanations of our past and current interventions read like government propaganda written for children.”

What follows is based on a recent Scott lecture entitled “The JFK Assassination and Other Deep Events”, and will be expanded on further in his next book, The American Deep State, due out in November.


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For some time now, I have been analyzing American history in the light of what I have called structural deep events: events, like the JFK assassination, the Watergate break-in, Iran-Contra, or 9/11, which repeatedly involve law-breaking or violence, are mysterious to begin with, are embedded in ongoing covert processes, have political consequences that enlarge covert government, and are subsequently covered up by systematic falsifications in the mainstream media and internal government records.

The more I study these deep events, the more I see suggestive similarities between them, increasing the possibility that they are not unrelated external intrusions on American history, but parts of an endemic process, sharing to some degree or other a common source.

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A deep state event seen from deep space. New York City, 9/11. NASA Photo

For example, one factor linking Dallas, Watergate, Iran-Contra, and 9/11, has been the involvement in all four deep events of personnel involved in America’s highest-level emergency planning, known since the 1950s as Continuity of Government (COG) planning, or more colloquially inside the Pentagon as “the Doomsday Project.” A few of these actors may have been located at the top, as overseers of the secret COG system. Others – including some I shall talk about today – were located further down in its secret communications network.

I see this planning group as one among many in what I have chosen to call the American deep state, along with agencies like the CIA and NSA, the private groups like Booz Allen Hamilton to which more than half of the US intelligence budget is outsourced, and finally the powerful banks and corporations whose views are well represented in the CIA and NSA. But if only one group among many, the COG planning group is also special, because of its control of and access to a communications channel, not under government control, that can reach deeply into the US social structure. I discuss these matters at some length in my next book, The American Deep State, due out in November.

(http://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/031.jpg) COG planning was originally authorized by Truman and Eisenhower as planning for a response to a crippling atomic attack that had decapitated government. In consequence its planning group contemplated extreme measures, including what Alfonso Chardy in 1987 called “suspension of the Constitution.” And yet in Iran-Contra its asset of a secret communications network, developed for the catastrophe of decapitation, was used instead to evade an official embargo on arms sales to Iran that dated back to 1979. My question today is whether the network could have been similarly misused in November 1963.

The Iran-contra misuse has been well-documented. Oliver North supervised the sale of arms to Iran by using his resources as the National Security Council action officer for COG planning, under cover of a “National Program Office” that was overseen by then Vice-President George H. W.  Bush. North and his superiors could thus use the COG emergency network, known then as Flashboard, for the arms sales to Iran that had to be concealed from other parts of the Washington bureaucracy as well as the public. So when North had to send emergency instructions for arms delivery to the US Embassy in Lisbon, instructions that directly contravened the embargo prohibiting such sales, he used the Flashboard network to avoid alerting the Ambassador and other unwitting personnel.

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The documented example of Iran-Contra allows me to explain what I am saying about the users of the COG network, and also what I am not saying. To begin with, I am not saying that a single “Secret Team” has for decades been using the COG network to manipulate the US Government from outside it. There is no evidence to suggest that North’s actions in Iran-Contra were known to any of his superiors other than CIA chief William Casey and probably George Bush. The point is that a very small group had access to a high-level secret network outside government review, in order to implement a program in opposition to government policy. They succumbed to the temptation to use this secure network that had been designed for other purposes. I have argued elsewhere that this secure network was used again on 9/11, to implement key orders for which the 9/11 Commission could find no records. Whether it was also used for illicit purposes is not known.

It is certain that the COG emergency network program survived North’s demise, and continued to be secretly developed for decades, at a cost of billions, and overseen by a team including Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. It is relevant that the two men’s presence on the committee spanned three administrations – those of Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton — even though at one point under Clinton neither man held a position inside the U.S. government. Such continuity was essential for a group so secret that few records existed of its activities. And on 9/11 COG plans were officially implemented for the first time, by Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, the two men who had planned them for so many years.

Whether or not they knew about Iran-Contra, Cheney and Rumsfeld were on the COG planning committee at the time of Iran-Contra. There is no such obvious link between COG planning and Watergate, but the involvement of COG personnel in Watergate is nonetheless striking. James McCord, one of the Watergate burglars, was a member of a small Air Force Reserve unit in Washington attached to the Office of Emergency Preparedness (OEP) that was assigned “to draw up lists of radicals and to develop contingency plans for censorship of the news media and U.S. mail in time of war.” His unit was part of the Wartime Information Security Program (WISP), which had responsibility for activating “contingency plans for imposing censorship on the press, the mails and all telecommunications (including government communications) [and] preventive detention of civilian ‘security risks,’ who would be placed in military ‘camps.’” In addition, John Dean, perhaps the central Watergate figure, had overseen secret COG activities when serving as the associate deputy attorney general.

In the case of the JFK assassination, I wish to focus on two men who functioned as part of the communications network of the Office of Emergency Planning (OEP), the agency renamed in 1968 as the Office of Emergency Preparedness (to which McCord was attached), and renamed again in 1982 as the National Program Office (for which Oliver North was the action officer).

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These two men (there are others) are Winston Lawson, the Secret Service advance man who from the lead car of the motorcade was in charge of the Secret Service radio channels operating in the motorcade; and Jack Crichton, the army intelligence reserve officer who with Deputy Dallas Police Chief George Lumpkin selected the Russian interpreter for Marina Oswald’s first (and falsified) FBI interview.

Lawson has drawn the critical attention of JFK researchers, both for dubious actions he took before and during the assassination, and also for false statements he made after it (some of them under oath). For example, Lawson reported after the assassination that motorcycles were deployed on “the right and left flanks of the President’s car” (17 WH 605). On the morning of November 22, however, the orders had been changed (3 WH 244), so that the motorcycles rode instead, as Lawson himself testified to the Warren Commission, “just back of the President’s car” (4 WH 338; cf. 21 WH 768-70). Captain Lawrence of the Dallas Police testified that that the proposed side escorts were redeployed to the rear on Lawson’s own instructions (7 WH 580-81; cf. 18 WH 809, 21 WH 571). This would appear to have left the President more vulnerable to a possible crossfire.

(http://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/06.jpg) Early on November 22, at Love Field, Lawson installed, in what would become the lead car, the base radio whose frequencies were used by all Secret Service agents on the motorcade. This radio channel, operated by the White House Communications Agency (WHCA), was used for some key decisions before and after the assassination, yet its records, unlike those of the Dallas Police Department (DPD) Channels One and Two, were never made available to the Warren Commission, or any subsequent investigation. The tape was not withheld because it was irrelevant; on the contrary, it contained very significant information.

The WHCA actually reports to this day on its website that the agency was “a key player in documenting the assassination of President Kennedy.” However it is not clear for whom this documentation was conducted, or why it was not made available to the Warren Commission, the House Select Committee on Assassinations, or the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB). It should have been.

For one thing, the WHCA tape, as Vincent Palamara has written, contains the “key” to the unresolved mystery of who, after the shooting, redirected the motorcade to Parkland hospital. The significance of this apparently straightforward command, about which there was much conflicting testimony, is heightened when we read repeated orders on the Dallas Police radio transcript to “cut all traffic for the ambulance going to Parkland code 3” (17 WH 395) – the ambulance in question having nothing to do with the president (whose shooting had not yet been announced on the DPD radio). In fact the ambulance had been dispatched about ten minutes before the assassination to pick someone from in front of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD), who was wrongly suspected of having suffered an epileptic seizure.

Lawson later reported to the Secret Service that he heard on his radio “that we should proceed to the nearest hospital.” He wrote also that he “requested Chief Curry to have the hospital contacted,” and then that “Our Lead Car assisted the motorcycles in escorting the President’s vehicle to Parkland Hospital” (17 WH 632), cf. 21 WH 580). In other words, after hearing something on the WHCA radio, Lawson helped ensure that the President’s limousine would follow the route already set up by the motorcycles for the epileptic. (In his very detailed Warren Commission testimony, Lawson said nothing about the route having already been cleared. On the contrary he testified that “we had to do some stopping of cars and holding our hands out the windows and blowing the sirens and horns to get through” (4 WH 354).

The WHCA radio channel used by Lawson and others communicated almost directly to the WHCA base at Mount Weather in Virginia, the base facility of the COG network. From there, Secret Service communications were relayed to the White House, via the

batteries of communications equipment connecting Mount Weather with the White House and “Raven Rock” — the underground Pentagon sixty miles north of Washington — as well as with almost every US military unit stationed around the globe.

Jack Crichton, head of the 488th Army Intelligence Reserve unit of Dallas, was also part of this Mount Weather COG network. This was in his capacity as chief of intelligence for Dallas Civil Defense, which worked out of an underground Emergency Operating Center. As Russ Baker reports, “Because it was intended for ‘continuity of government’ operations during an attack, [the Center] was fully equipped with communications equipment.” In retrospect the Civil Defense Program is remembered derisively, for having advised schoolchildren, in the event of an atomic attack, to hide their heads under their desks.But in 1963 civil defense was one of the urgent responsibilities assigned to the Office of Emergency Planning, which is why Crichton, as much as Secret Service agent Lawson, could be in direct touch with the OEP’s emergency communications network at Mount Weather.

(http://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/07.jpg) Jack Crichton is of interest because he, along with DPD Deputy Chief George Lumpkin of the 488th Army Intelligence Reserve unit, was responsible for choosing a Russian interpreter for Marina Oswald from the right-wing Russian community. This man was Ilya Mamantov, who translated for Marina Oswald at her first DPD interview on November 22. What she allegedly said in Russian at this interview was later used to bolster what I have called the “phase one” story, still promoted from some CIA sources, that Russia and/or Cuba were behind the assassination.

As summarized by the FBI, Mamantov’s account of Marina’s Russian testimony was as follows:

MARINA OSWALD advised that LEE HARVEY OSWALD owned a rifle which he used in Russia about two years ago. She observed what she presumed to be the same rifle in a blanket in the garage at [Ruth Paine’s residence]…. MARINA OSWALD stated that on November 22, she had been shown a rifle in the Dallas Police Department…. She stated that it was a dark color like the one that she had seen, but she did not recall the sight.

These specific details – that Marina said she had seen a rifle that was dark and scopeless – were confirmed in an affidavit (signed by Marina and Mamantov, 24 WH 219) that was taken by DPD officer B.L. Senkel (24 WH 249). They were confirmed again by Ruth Paine, who witnessed the Mamantov interview, (3 WH 82). They were confirmed again the next night in an interview of Marina by the Secret Service, translated by Mamantov’s close friend Peter Gregory. But a Secret Service transcript of the interview reveals that the source of these details was Gregory, not Marina:

(Q) This gun, was it a rifle or a pistol or just what kind of a gun? Can she answer that?

(A) It was a gun

Mr. Gregory asked: Can you describe it?

NOTE: Subject said: I cannot describe it because a rifle to me like all rifles.

Gregory translation: She said she cannot describe it. It was sort of a dark rifle just like any other common rifle…

Subject in Russian: It was a hump (or elevation) but I never saw through the scope….

Gregory translation: She says there was an elevation on the rifle but there was no scope – no telescope.

We have to conclude not just that Gregory had falsified Marina’s testimony (“a rifle to me like all rifles”); but so probably had his friend Mamantov, who later testified no less than seven times to the Warren Commission that Marina had used the word “dark” to describe the gun. There were others in Dallas who claimed that Oswald’s gun indeed had been scopeless, until Oswald had a scope installed on it by Dallas gunsmith Dial Ryder. The Warren Report elaborately refuted this corroborated claim, and concluded that “the authenticity of the repair tag” used to support it was “subject to grave doubts.” (WR 317).

We can see here, what the Warren Commission did not wish to see, signs of a conspiracy to misrepresent Marina’s testimony, and possibly to link Oswald’s gun to a dark and scopeless rifle he had in the Soviet Union. Our concerns that Mamantov misrepresented her lead us to concerns about why two Army Intelligence Reserve officers from the 488th unit (Jack Crichton and Deputy DPD Chief George Lumpkin) selected Mamantov as her interpreter. Our concerns are increased when we see that B.L. Senkel, the DPD officer who took Marina’s suspect affidavit, was the partner of F.P. Turner, who collected the dubious rifle repair tag (24 WH 328), and that both men spent most of November 22 with DPD Deputy Chief Lumpkin. For example, they were with Lumpkin in the pilot car of the motorcade when Lumpkin was communicating with Winston Lawson in the lead car behind them.

I conclude that when we look at the conduct of the two men we know to have been parts of the COG emergency communications network in Dallas, we see patterns of sinister behavior that also involved others, or what we may call conspiratorial behavior. These concatenated efforts to implicate Oswald in a phase-one conspiracy narrative lead me to propose a hypothesis for which I have neither evidence nor an alternative explanation: namely, that someone on the WHCA network may have been the source for the important unexplained description on the Dallas Police tapes of a suspect who had exactly the false height and weight (5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds) recorded for Oswald in his FBI and CIA files.

(http://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/08.jpg) Note that there are no other known sources ascribing this specific height and weight to Oswald. For example, when he was arrested and charged in Dallas that same day, Oswald was recorded as having a height of 5’9 ½ inches, and a weight of 131 pounds. The first reference to Oswald as 5’10”, 165 pounds, was that offered by Oswald’s mother Marguerite to FBI Agent Fain in May 1960, when Oswald himself was absent in Russia.

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 19, 2015, 02:42:27 pm
The Hidden Government Group Linking JFK, Watergate, Iran-Contra And 9/11 (second half of article in this thread)

The DPD officer contributing the description on the Police Channel was Inspector Herbert Sawyer, who allegedly had heard it from someone outside the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) whom he could not identify or describe. The Warren Report said categorically that his source was Howard Brennan (WR 5), and that on the evening of November 22, Brennan “identified Oswald as the person in the lineup who bore the closest resemblance to the man in the window but he said that he was unable to make a positive identification” (WR 145). But there are many reasons to doubt this, starting with conflicts in Brennan’s own testimony (as Anthony Summers reported in Conspiracy, pp. 109-10) . And Ian Griggs has made a strong case that Brennan never saw Oswald in a line-up that evening. (There are police records placing Oswald in three line-ups that day, and corroborating witness reports of them; but there is no evidence whatever that Brennan attended any of the three.)

There is another strong reason to doubt that the source was Brennan. Brennan testified later to the Warren Commission that he saw his suspect in a window of the Texas School Book Depository, “standing up and leaning against the left window sill.” Pressed to describe how much of the suspect he saw, Brennan answered, “I could see probably his whole body, from his hips up. But at the time that he was firing the gun, a possibility from his belt up” (3 WH 144).

The awkwardness of Brennan’s language draws attention to the fundamental problem about the description. It is hard to imagine anyone giving a full height and weight estimate from seeing someone who was only partially visible in a window. So there are intrinsic grounds for believing the description must have come from another source. And when we see that the same description is found in Oswald’s FBI and CIA files — and nowhere else – there are reasons to suspect the source was from government secret files.

We have seen that there was interaction in Dallas between the WHCA and DPD radio channels, thanks to the WHCA portable radio that Lawson had installed in the lead car of the presidential motorcade. This radio in turn was in contact by police radio with the pilot car ahead of it, carrying Dallas Police Department (DPD) Deputy Chief Lumpkin of the 488th Army Intelligence Reserve unit. At the same time, as noted above, it was in contact with the COG nerve center at Mount Weather, Virginia. And Mount Weather had the requisite secret communications to receive information from classified intelligence files, without other parts of the government being alerted.

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Mount Weather Continuity of Government (COG) Nerve Center

Agelbert NOTE: the definition of "Government" above is, IMHO, Fossil Fuel Fascists' R' US. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp) The Fascist Fox will, of course, do WHATEVER IT TAKES to ensure nobody takes away it's exploitation of the American hen yard. They are Capitalist Businessmen, after all.  ;)








Permit me at this moment an instructive digression. It is by now well established that Kennedy in 1963 was concerned enough by “the threat of far-right treason” that he urgently persuaded Hollywood director John Frankenheimer “to turn [the novel] Seven Days in May into a movie.” In this book, to quote Wikipedia, a charismatic superior officer, Air Force General James Mattoon Scott, intend(s) to stage a coup d’état …. According to the plan, an undisclosed Army combat unit known as ECOMCON (Emergency COMmunications CONtrol) will seize control of the country’s telephone, radio, and television networks, while the conspiracy directs the military and its allies in Congress and the media from “Mount Thunder” (a continuity of government base based on Mount Weather).

It is no secret also that in 1963 Kennedy had aroused major right-wing dissatisfaction, largely because of signs of his increasing rapprochement with the Soviet Union. The plot of the book and movie reflects the concern of liberals at the time about generals like General Edwin Walker, who had resigned in 1961 after Kennedy criticized his political activities in the Army. (Walker had given his troops John Birch Society literature, along with the names of right-wing candidates to vote for.) We can assume however that Kennedy had no firm evidence of a Mount Weather conspiracy: if he had, it is unlikely his response would have just been to sponsor a fictionalized movie.

It is important at this stage to point out that, although COG elements like Mount Weather were considered part of the Pentagon, the COG “government in waiting” was at no time under military control. On the contrary, President Eisenhower had ensured that it was broadly based at the top, so its planners included some of the nation’s top corporate leaders, like Frank Stanton of CBS. By all accounts of COG leadership in the decades after Reagan took office in 1981, this so-called “shadow government” still included CEOs of private corporations, like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, as well as three former CIA directors: Richard Helms, James Schlesinger, and George Bush.

Alfonso Chardy wrote in 1987 that the “virtual parallel government” empowering North to run Iran-Contra had also developed “a secret contingency plan that called for suspension of the Constitution, turning control of the United States over to FEMA.” Subsequently North was questioned in the Iran-Contra Hearings about this charge, but was prevented by the Committee Chairman, Democratic Senator Inouye, from answering in a public session.

Later, investigating the powerful COG planning group, CNN called it “a hidden government [in the USA] about which you know nothing.” James Mann emphasized its hawkish continuity, unaffected by changes of presidency in the White House:

Cheney and Rumsfeld were, in a sense, a part of the permanent, though hidden, national security apparatus of the United States, inhabitants of a world in which Presidents come and go, but America always keeps on fighting.”

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Cheney and Rumsfeld in 1974

Going one step further, Andrew ****burn quoted a Pentagon source to support a claim that a COG planning group under Clinton was now for the first time staffed “almost exclusively with Republican hawks.” In the words of his source, “You could say this was a secret government-in-waiting. The Clinton administration was extraordinarily inattentive, [they had] no idea what was going on.”

The Pentagon official’s description of COG planners as a “secret government-in-waiting” under Clinton (which still included both Cheney and Rumsfeld) is very close to the standard definition of a cabal, as a group of persons secretly united to bring about a change or overthrow of government. A very similar situation existed under Jimmy Carter, when some of those who would later figure in Iran-Contra (notably George H.W. Bush and Theodore Shackley) worked with chiefs of foreign intelligence services (the so-called Safari Club) “to start working with [former DCI Richard] Helms [then U.S. Ambassador to Iran] and his most trusted operatives outside of Congressional and even Agency purview.” This group began by backing guerrilla forces in Africa (notably UNITA of Jonas Savimbi in Angola), which they knew would not be backed by the CIA under William Colby or Stansfield Turner.

But some of these figures, notably Alexandre de Marenches of the French spy agency SDECE, became involved with Casey, Bush, Shackley, and others in a 1980 plot – the so-called Republican “October Surprise” – to prevent the reelection of Jimmy Carter. The essence of this plot was to frustrate Carter’s efforts to repatriate the hostages seized in the U.S. Tehran Embassy, by negotiating a Republican deal with the Iranians that would be more to their liking. (The hostages in fact were returned hours after Reagan took office in 1981.)

This Republican hostage plot in 1980 deserves to be counted as a fifth structural deep event in recent US history. Unquestionably the illicit contacts with Iran established by the October Surprise Group in 1980 became, as Alfonso Chardy wrote, the “genesis” of the Iran-Contra arms deals overseen by the COG/ Mount Weather planners in 1984-86.

In an important interview with journalist Robert Parry, the veteran CIA officer Miles Copeland claimed that a “CIA within the CIA” inspired the 1980 plot, having concluded by 1980 that Jimmy Carter (in Copeland’s words) “had to be removed from the presidency for the good of the country.” Copeland made it clear to Parry that he shared this view that Carter “represented a grave threat to the nation,” and former Mossad agent Ari Ben-Menashe told Parry that Copeland himself was in fact “the conceptual father” of the 1980 arms-for-hostages deal, and had “brokered [the] Republican cooperation with Israel.” And Copeland, together with his client Adnan Khashoggi whom he advised, went on with Shackley to help launch the 1984-85 Iranian arms deals as well.

However, just as Knebel in Seven Days may have overestimated the military component in the COG Mount Weather leadership, so Copeland may have dwelt too exclusively on the CIA component behind the October Surprise Group. In The Road to 9/11, I suggested that this CIA network overlapped with a so-called “Project Alpha,” working at the time for David Rockefeller and the Chase Manhattan Bank on Iran issues, which was chaired by the veteran establishment figure John J. McCloy.

I will conclude by again quoting James Mann’s dictum that the Mount Weather COG leadership constitutes a “permanent, though hidden, national security apparatus of the United States, … a world in which Presidents come and go, but America always keeps on fighting. ”And I would like this audience to investigate whether elements of this enduring leadership, with its ever-changing mix of CIA veterans and civilian leaders, may have constituted “a secret government-in-waiting,” not just under Clinton in the 1990s, not just under Carter in 1980, but also under Kennedy in November 1963.


Footnotes


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Peter Dale Scott, Russ Baker, David Talbot, Daniel Ellsberg, Jefferson Morley at a recent lunch

[1] Peter Dale Scott, The American Deep State: Wall Street, Big Oil, and the Attack on U.S. Democracy (Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2014 [forthcoming]). 1.

[2] For a partial list of anomalies between the JFK assassination and 9/11, see Peter Dale Scott, The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War (New York: Skyhorse, 2013), 341-96.

[3] Tim Shorrock, Spies for Hire (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2008), 6.

[4] Alfonso Chardy, “Reagan Aides and the Secret Government,” Miami Herald, July 5, 1987, http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=9877: “Some of President Reagan’s top advisers have operated a virtual parallel government outside the traditional Cabinet departments and agencies almost from the day Reagan took office, congressional investigators and administration officials have concluded.”

[5] Iran-Contra Committee Counsel Arthur Liman, questioning Oliver North, “had North repeat his testimony that the diversion was Casey’s idea” (Arthur Liman, Lawyer: a life of counsel and controversy [New York: Public Affairs, 1998], 341).

[6] James Bamford, A Pretext for War: 9/11, Iraq, and the abuse of America’s intelligence agencies (New York: Doubleday, 2004), 72.

[7] Peter Dale Scott, The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2007), 213-14, 219-29.

[8] Bamford, A Pretext for War, 71-81.

[9] Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, All the President’s Men (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1974), 23.

[10] Jim Hougan, Secret Agenda (New York: Random House, 1984), 16. For more on WISP, see David Wise, The Politics of Lying: Government Deception, Secrecy, and Power (New York: Random House, 1973), 134-37.

[11] John Dean, Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush (New York: Little Brown, 2004), 120. In addition Howard Baker, in 1973 the ranking Republican member of the Senate Committee that investigated Watergate, was later  part of the COG secret leadership (CNN Special Assignment, November 17, 1991).

[12] James Mann, Rise of the Vulcans: The History of Bush’s War Cabinet (New York: Viking, 2004), 142.

[13] Warren Commission Hearings, Vol. 9, p.106 (or 9 WH 106) ; Scott, Deep Politics, 275-76; Russ Baker, Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America (New York: Bloomsbury Press, 2009), 119-22.

[14] “White House Communications Agency,” Signal Corps Regimental History, http://signal150.army.mil/white_house_communications_agency.html.

[15] In the 1990s the WHCA supplied statements to the ARRB concerning communications between Dallas and Washington on November 22 (NARA #172-10001-10002 to NARA #172-10000-10008).  The Assassination Records Review Board also attempted to obtain from the WHCA the unedited original tapes of conversations from Air Force One on the return trip from Dallas, November 22, 1963. (Edited and condensed versions of these tapes had been available since the 1970s from the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library in Austin, Texas.) The attempt was unsuccessful: “The Review Board’s repeated written and oral inquiries of the White House Communications Agency did not bear fruit. The WHCA could not produce any records that illuminated the provenance of the edited tapes.” See Assassinations Records Review Board: Final Report, chapter 6, Part 1, 116, http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/review-board/report/chapter-06-part1.pdf.

[16] 17 WH 394-95, 23 WH 841; 17 WH 368, 395; Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, 273-74, 278. The alleged epileptic walked away from the ambulance after it arrived at Highland (Warren Commission Document 1245, 6-10).

[17] Statement of Special Agent Winston E. Lawson [to Secret Service],” 17 WH 632; Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, 278.

[18] Richard Pollock, “The Mysterious Mountain,” The Progressive, March, 1976; cf. “Mount Weather’s ‘Government-in-Waiting,’” http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/mt_weather.htm.

[19] Russ Baker, Family of Secrets, 121.

[20] Dee Garrison , Bracing for Armageddon: Why Civil Defense Never Worked

(New York: Oxford University Press, 2006), 46.

[21] Warren Commission Exhibit 1778, 23 WH 383-84.

[22] Commission Document 344 – SS Howard Tape Copy of 01 Dec 1963, p. 23.

[23] Lee Harvey Oswald fingerprint card, 17 WH 308. The heaviest Oswald actually weighed was 150 pounds, when he left the Marines in 1959 (19 WH 584, 595).

[24] FBI report by Special Agent Fain, dated May 12, 1960, 17 WH 706. In the same report Marguerite named Oswald’s father as “Edward Lee Oswald.” His actual name was Robert Edward Lee Oswald (WR 669-70).

[25] Testimony of Inspector Herbert Sawyer, 6 WH 321-22:  “I remember that he was a white man and that he wasn’t young and he wasn’t old.” Cf. Dallas Police Channel Two Tape at 12:25 PM (23 WH 916).

[26] Ian Griggs, “Did Howard Leslie Brennan Really Attend an Identification Lineup?”

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/28th_Issue/id_draft.html.

[27] Statement of Secret Service Winston Lawson, 17 WH 630: “I checked with Chief Curry as to location of Lead Car [at  Love Field] and had WHCA portable radio put in and checked.”

[28] “The lead car was in radio contact with the pilot car by police radio, and with the Presidential limousine by Secret Service portable radios” (Pamela McElwain-Brown, “The Presidential Lincoln Continental SS-100-X,” Dealey Plaza Echo, Volume 3, Issue 2, 23, http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=16241&relPageId=27). Cf. Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, 272-75 (Lumpkin).

[29] David Talbot, Brothers: the hidden history of the Kennedy years (New York: Free Press, 2007), 148.

[30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_in_May.

[31] Jonathan M. Schoenwald, A time for choosing: the rise of modern American conservatism (New York: Oxford University Press, 2001), .

[32] Hope Yen, “Eisenhower Letters Reveal Doomsday Plan: Citizens Tapped to Take Over in Case of Attack,” AP, Deseret News, March 21, 2004, http://www.deseretnews.com/article/595050502/Eisenhower-letters-reveal-doomsday-plan.html?pg=all.

[33] CNN Special Assignment, November 17, 1991.

[34] Alfonso Chardy, “Reagan Aides and the Secret Government,” Miami Herald, July 5, 1987, http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=9877: “Some of President Reagan’s top advisers have operated a virtual parallel government outside the traditional Cabinet departments and agencies almost from the day Reagan took office, congressional investigators and administration officials have concluded.”

[35] Iran-Contra Committee Counsel Arthur Liman, questioning Oliver North, “had North repeat his testimony that the diversion was Casey’s idea” (Arthur Liman, Lawyer: a life of counsel and controversy [New York: Public Affairs, 1998], 341). Cf. The “October Surprise” allegations and the circumstances surrounding the release of the American hostages held in Iran: report of the Special Counsel to Senator Terry Sanford and Senator James M. Jeffords of the Committee on Foreign Relations, United States Senate, Volume 4, p. 33 (October Surprise Group).

[36] CNN Special Assignment, November 17, 1991.

[37] James Mann, Rise of the Vulcans, 145.

[38] Andrew ****burn, Rumsfeld: His Rise, Fall, and Catastrophic Legacy (New York: Scribner, 2007), 88.

[39] Joseph J. Trento, Prelude to terror: the rogue CIA and the legacy of America’s private intelligence network (New York: Carroll & Graf, 2005), 61.

[40] Piero Gleijeses, Visions of Freedom: Havana, Washington, Pretoria and the struggle for Southern Africa, 1976-1991 (Chapel Hill: The University of North Carolina Press, [2013]), 66-68; Elaine Windrich, “The Laboratory of Hate: The Role of Clandestine Radio in the Angolan War,” International Journal of Cultural Studies 3(2), 2000.

[41] Alfonso Chardy, “Reagan Aides and the Secret Government,” Miami Herald, July 5, 1987, http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=9877: “The group, led by campaign foreign policy adviser Richard Allen, was founded out of concern Carter might pull off an “October surprise” such as a last-minute deal for the release of the hostages before the Nov. 4 election. One of the group’s first acts was a meeting with a man claiming to represent Iran who offered to release the hostages to Reagan.

Allen — Reagan’s first national security adviser— and another campaign aide, Laurence Silberman, told The Herald in April of the meeting. they said McFarlane, then a Senate Armed Services Committee aide, arranged and attended it. McFarlane later became Reagan’s national security adviser and played a key role in the Iran-contra affair. Allen and Silberman said they rejected the offer to release the hostages to Reagan.” [The Iranian was Houshang Lavi, and after Lavi’s death Robert Parry confirmed from Lavi’s diary that the meeting did take place].

[42] Alfonso Chardy, “Reagan Aides and the Secret Government,” Miami Herald, July 5, 1987, http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=9877.

[43] “America’s False History Allows the Powerful to Commit Crimes Without Consequence,” Mark Karlin Interview of Robert Parry, January 15, 2013, Truthout Interview, http://www.truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/13904-americas-false-history-allows-the-powerful-to-commit-crimes-without-consequence.

[44] Robert Parry, Trick or Treason, 175.

[45] Peter Dale Scott, The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America

(Berkeley: University of California Press, 2007), 81-83, 88. A key figure was CIA veteran and Copeland friend Archibald Roosevelt, in 1980 a Carter foe and also  employee of the Chase Manhattan Bank.

[46] Mann, Rise of the Vulcans, 145.

see more at: http://whowhatwhy.com/2014/10/05/the-hidden-government-group-linking-jfk-watergate-iran-contra-and-911/#sthash.sATV1hsH.dpuf

http://www.constantinereport.com/hidden-government-group-linking-jfk-watergate-iran-contra-911/

Agelbert NOTE: He is almost there (or he is just not ready to write pre-JFK stuff yet even though he knows it well.  8)).  The Secret Government, IMHO, got it's POWER to control ALL of American politics and media from the Manhattan Project.

WHY? Because it BIRTHED the MONSTER called the Military Industrial Complex. Yes, we had a M.I.C. run BY and FOR BIG OIL and a lot of attacks on democracy before that.

HOWEVER, the SECRECY protected by force under the "national security" clever contrivance is what ENABLED the M.I.C. to go out an buy or bop the media and politicians. Fascism NEEDS SECRECY to grow its cancerous tentacles and choke democracy. The Manhattan Project gave the fascist fox full power over the hen yard. Fascism, because it is psychopathic, cruel and exploitive, destroys any country it gets a foothold in.

Representative Republic democracy is long gone in the USA.  :(  Fascism is now in the terminal cancer, in your face profit over people and planet, stage of destroying everything of value in this country.

Government enforced secrecy is DEADLY to any type of freedom, period. There is NO EXCUSE for secrecy in government, PERIOD. And SECRECY, by the way, is considered ESSENTIAL to predatory capitalist profits...

But what about NATIONAL SECURTY?  ???
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“The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.”

― Albert Camus

The only "SECURITY" TPTB care about is their own.

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 19, 2015, 05:15:44 pm

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ANALYSIS: Why the standoff between Greece and the EU is really the first major battle in the war between Yesterday and Tomorrow

As the days drag on towards some kind of dénouement to what is rapidly becoming the silliest, longest and most empty threat of a death sentence in political history, I continue to be amazed that the Western media are reporting the Greece-eurogroupe ‘deadlock’ as if it was a purely technical matter.

There are only two elements of the ‘crisis’ that concern me: the emotional dimension of an at times infuriating but fundamentally sound culture I’ve loved for over forty years being pelted by a salvo of Brussels sprouts, controlling sauerkrats, and past-sell-by date Frankfurters; and the former politics student’s fascination with the factions and rivalries on both sides.

If you’re a Python nut like me, then you will remember the Life of Brian sequence where Graham Chapman innocently asks the anal splinter-group leader Michael Palin if “we” are the People’s Group for the Liberation of Palestine, and Palin snaps back, “Are you f**king mad? We f**kin’ spit on the PGLOP. We, my friend, are the People’s Army for Palestine Liberation. There’s a world of difference”.

Sadly, a great deal of contemporary in-fighting between Middle East opponents of the US, Israel and NATO have proved in the 36 years since that movie how madness will eventually – somewhere – become reality. But it is also one of the strongest arguments against large States like Europe, China, the US and Russia that the citizens reach a point where a substantial minority no longer feel any affection for the much-vaunted body. For them, it’s more of a cadaver: a giant corpse they simple cannot remember as the flower of their youth.

More and more, this anthropological reality both colours and muddies European affairs.

The current impasse/standoff/crisis/negotiation is not – let’s get this straight for starters – a conflict between the EU and Greece. It is not even a war between national liberty and superstate dictatorship.

Rather, it’s the first battle in what could be a long war between yesterday and tomorrow. And be aware: the battle is no way as simple as ‘EU yesterday vs Greek tomorrow': this is a battle in which there are more false flags, civil wars around the edges and power struggles going on than in the emerging Nazi Party of 1931.

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Let’s deal quickly with my first concern: although depicted as the punishment of corrupt Greek politicians, backhanding officials and tax-evading taverna owners, none of that is even closely related to the facts. Far from punishing Nia Demokratia, PASOK and their serially unpleasant leaders, the Troika has insisted from Day One that it will only deal with these gargoyles. This is the same principle as hanging the war criminals at Nuremburg….up to but not including rocket scientists the victors wanted on their sides.

Germany largely benefited from corrupt officials (especially during the various insane arms deals with Greece) rather than suffering in any way; and precious few of those Fat Crats have been brought to justice….although Syriza is now on the case.

And finally, small businesses evade tax in Greece because the tax system is corrupt, not through greed in many cases: they know that every pol and bureacrat wants a kafelaki (small envelope). And people evade the Troika taxes today because they see them for what they are: a disgraceful attempt to pick the pocket of the vagrant in the gutter. I live in France now, and I’ve visited Greece between forty and fifty times in the last half-century; everything I see related to le noir francais is exactly the same as in Greece – except for one thing: it’s a far bigger problem in France.

I’m told by some that the desire to evade tax became an act of patriotic resistance during the Ottoman hegemony over Greece, but that was a long, long time ago: more accurate, I think, is the phrase used to me over and over again: “It’s a national sport”….and the trophy is nothing more than sticking it to the depraved elites that have been sitting on real Greeks for decades.

The punishment meted out by the Troika fits not the crime, but the greed, geopolitical ambitions and cynical control freakery of its three prongs – Wall Street, the US/EU, and Berlin/ECB interest groups. This is far from empty conspiracist assertion: the investment banking firms and Hedge Funds got clean away with a fat profit during the initial bailouts, Schäuble stands accused of conspiring with Venizelos to exaggerate the size of debt hole in 2010, a German-controlled and run concept of Fiskalunion has emerged directly from this totally unnecessary mess, the federalisation of the EU has been accelerated, and above all the euro was saved to die another day.

Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal are on Calvary at the moment, but they’re dying to cleanse a worthless currency of its flaws, not to save anyone’s soul. And no amount of crucifixions from here to Warsaw via Budapest are going to remove the euro’s flaws.

Greece is saddled with an obscene debt and carpet-bombed economic structure because Schäuble wanted to convince the markets of eurozone viability, Trichet’s borrowing controls were hopelessly lax, Goldman wanted to sell credit, Sarkozy was terrified of the effect on his banks, and Berlin wanted – plus ca change – to run Europe using the best alternative to military force: the munnneeee.

There is little difference in general substance between QE and Zirp killing economies across the globe, and ClubMed austerity killing most of the ezone economy: except of course, the one in Germany. Gott in Himmel: perish the thought that such a thing might occur.

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Nobody in the neoliberal owned and controlled press is ever going to accept that version of events, no matter how empirically databased it is. But no other explanation can explain the consistent actions of those in charge of the fiscal policies involved….policies that cannot possibly be related to sound economic actions – or even sound minds.

The mistake many observers and commentators make is to get the motive for the Greek tragedy wrong: get it right, and everything makes complete sense. Read the MSM account, and none of it does.

However, as I pointed out at the start of this mini-essay, there’s no simple tug-of-war going on. The best analogy I can summon up for the moment is to see the EU/ECB/Berlin attack on Greece as akin to Abe Lincoln deciding to attack Samuria-Shogun-Meiji fractured Japan just after the first Battle of Bull Run.

The two ‘sides’ in 2015 square up as follows:

EC vs Eurogroupe vs Frankfurt vs IMF vs ECB vs Berlin vs Paris vs UK

vs

Syriza vs KKE vs PASOK vs Nia Demokrita vs Golden Dawn vs To Potami vs ephiles vs ephobes

Without getting into too much detail, Jean-Claude Junker’s power base is the EC. Inside that, he has an anti-austerity rebuilding fund of allegedly €350bn, whose purpose he has kept deliberately vague. He befriended Alexis Tsipras, and could shaft the eurogroupe royally if he decided to invest it in Greece on a bigger scale than at present. This is because the eurogroupe’s attempt to wrest power from Juncker gets up his nasal orifice – and threatens the Cyprus-style tax evasion racket he runs in Luxembourg.

But the Frankfurt Bundesbank hardliners think the eurogroupe and its ally the ECB will have a disastrous effect on money supply and inflation via QE…plus (they assert) it was a mistake to let the US-controlled IMF and its mathematically dyslexic boss Christine Lagarde loose anywhere in Europe. In Berlin, however, Schäuble wants to have total control over the reins of euro-fiscal policy, and so would do anything to vapourise ECB boss Mario Draghi…while Chancellor Merkel (whom Schäuble dislikes, but who has the electoral appeal he lacks) has similar doubts to me about what Draghi’s really up to: is he working for the euro, or is he working for its replacement, the Dolleuro?

Paris, meanwhile, is infinitely more guilty of fiscal vandalism than Greece (as are Germany and Holland) but is no longer avoiding the consequences of its soi-largesse with quite the ease it was. The French Establishment has been rattled by some of the fiscal disciplinary methods imposed on France after the March eurogroupe summit: but Berlin must beware of pushing too many French voters towards the undiluted anti-EU nationalism of Marine Le Pen’s Front Nationale.

And last but not least, dear old Blighty stuck out there in the island limbo of “Ukip if you want to, but we’re wide awake, and we want out”.

You may think the Sceptred Isle doesn’t count, but I would suggest you’re wrong. At the moment, the Eunatics face threats on four ClubMed fronts, interference from the US, and an allegedly weak Putinesque Russia which suggests that it isn’t either weak or stupid. The last thing the EU elites need is to roil the markets with a secession request from Britain in 2018….even if it is only England by then.

This does, I think, go a long way to explaining why Draghi has of late switched tack, and begun persuading his ‘colleagues’ that the time is not yet quite right for the Greeks to default. Much smart money had been targeting April 26th as the moment of truth for Athens. But yesterday the ECB boss told a Washington audience that he “won’t even contemplate” the possibility of a Greek default on its debt repayments during April, because such an event would throw the eurozone into “uncharted waters.” This from the man who six weeks ago claimed that Greek default would be no more than a gnat-bite on the bum for eurobanks…because this time, the system “is prepared”. Yeh, right: that must be why he arm-twisted the ELA into coughing up the liquidity to help Greece pay off the last IMF kilo of flesh, sorry, installment.

Far more money is now being placed on a Greek default on or after May 9th. And spookily, that just happens to be two days after the UK General Election finishes. I think it would be safe to say that – were a Greek default to throw everything into European bond-spiking confusion before April 26th – there would be a massive Ukip surge, as well as potential pressure on the UK’s George Osborne in terms of borrowing rates. The continued UK national debt explosion is, after all, the Chancellor’s Achilles heel.

So there you have it. Or rather, you don’t: because twixt you, me, the gatepost and the other girls, trying to discern 8 x 8 possibilities producing 64 possible outcomes (when any new left-field factor could make that 4096 scenarios) is the original mug’s game.

Much better, I’d opine, to stick to the basics. And I’ve remained consistent about these since this rapidly dwindling time-window began last February 24th.

Those who would rather have a meteorite collide with Earth than give up on the euro project have far, far more to lose than a nation of 11.5m people who would (in my view) be much better off deserting the euro. But there remains that Greek inferiority complex pride thing of not wanting to be the catalyst of destroying a single market that acts as an economic and political bulwark against American multinational domination of the Globe.

I think that viewpoint to be muddled, but then I’m not Greek, or foraging in the Athens garbage cans. My gut feeling is that Varoufakis underestimated the Cosa Nostra nastiness of those with whom he must deal, and Troika2 underestimated the fatigue of the Hellenic population at large with being made a scapegoat.

Either way, a lot of very sour derivative bets placed on euro success cannot be allowed to trigger an omni-directional bazooka aimed at Wall Street. Sorry to repeat myself, but I still think the high face-cards are in the Greek hand.

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(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-object-106.gif)The punishment meted out by the Troika fits not the crime, but the greed, geopolitical ambitions and cynical control freakery of its three prongs – Wall Street, the US/EU, and Berlin/ECB interest groups. (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-028.gif)

:emthup:


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I still think the high face-cards are in the Greek hand.
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 20, 2015, 02:17:56 pm
What do TPTB KNOW that they aren't telling us? Norad moving back to the BUNKER.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM&feature=player_embedded

Why IS the US military moving back into ‘Stargate’ base deep under the Rocky Mountains a decade after it was abandoned?  ???

Shut down nearly ten years ago as the threat from Russia seemed to subside.  ;)

The Cheyenne Mountain Complex is one of the icons of the Cold War – a self-contained and sufficient town buried under the Rockies meant to be impervious to a Soviet nuclear barrage.

It was home to the North American Aerospace Command (NORAD), scanning the skies for Russian missiles and the military command and control center of the United States in the event of World War Three.

The high tech base entered popular culture with appearances in the 1983 Cold War thriller War Games and 1994’s Stargate – which imagined the complex as a clandestine home for intergalactic travel.
It shut down nearly ten years ago as the threat from Russia seemed to subside, but this week the Pentagon announced that Cheyenne Mountain will once again be home to the most advanced tracking and communications equipment in the United States military.

The shift to the Cheyenne Mountain base in Colorado is designed to safeguard the command’s sensitive sensors and servers from a potential electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack, military officers said.
http://rt.com/usa/247729-pentagon-bunker-cold-war//

TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY:  :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ6BiRtGTAk&feature=player_embedded

Inside the Making of Dr. Strangelove
Published on Mar 18, 2013
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Inside the Making of Dr. Strangelove A behind-the-scenes documentary about the making of one of the classics of modern cinema. Including interviews with many members of the cast and crew of this story about the scramble by the heads of state to head off a rogue general's attempt to launch a nuclear war, this film gives fans a wealth of new information on the work and effort that went into bringing the film to fruition. Written by Jean-Marc Rocher.

Agelbert NOTE: They made this movie WITHOUT the cooperation of the U.S. Air Force. When representatives of the USAF were invited to see the rushes, they went white when they saw the method devised for the "fail safe" black boxes. A few days later, they were advised that if the "sources of information" for the film were classified, the producers and writers were in serious legal trouble and an FBI investigation would ensue.

But it gets BETTER. While filming high altitude cold weather flying, they stumbled on a secret U.S. base and had fighter jets scrambled on their aircraft!

This is a virtual tour de force which, WITHOUT ACTUALLY SAYING SO, explains the psychology of everybody in power today that is doing all they can to get a war going. I'm surprised this video has been allowed to remain out there.

What is NOT SAID here, however, is that Kubrick KNEW about the RAND Corporation's "estimate" of nuclear war casualties and their "assessment" sent to the Joint Chief's of Staff at the Pentagon stating that a nuclear war (with the U.S. making the first strike) was "winnable".

Stanley Kubrick KNEW EXACTLY how the Continuity of Government (COB) M.I.C. think NOW, not just THEN. Their motto is "Better to reign in HELL than to serve in HEAVEN" (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp). GET IT?

You don't? You think these Ivy League Spawned Criminals are RATIONAL? Here's the short version of what they are:

THEY ARE SUICIDAL MANIACS! And YOU did NOT elect them!

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 25, 2015, 04:30:28 pm
http://nepalrastra.blogspot.com/2014/02/haarp-facility-shut-down.html (http://nepalrastra.blogspot.com/2014/02/haarp-facility-shut-down.html)

HAARP Facility Shut Down! 

The HAARP facility in Gakona, Alaska has shut down pending its transfer to a different contractor working for DARPA. The official statement reads:

HAARP was shut down in early May 2013, awaiting a change between contractors who operate the facility. According to HAARP program manager James Keeney, "Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is expected on site as a client to finish up some research in fall 2013 and winter 2014." The temporary shutdown was described as being due to "a contractor regime change." The Alaska Native corporation Ahtna, Incorporated is reportedly in talks to take over the facility administration contract from Marsh Creek, LLC.

Supporters of the HAARP program now say that claims of crazy weather patterns, earthquakes and mental illness can no longer be blamed on the operation of this remote facility because it is "off-line".

 It is a fact that the HAARP facility in Gakona was only a public relations facade which distracted from the larger facility near Fairbanks and the many other "ionospheric heaters" located around the country -- and the world -- that no longer use dipole antennae farms and receive their funding as "black projects", exempt from public scrutiny or review.

 We featured such a facility in China in a recent story on viewzone. The new antennae designs are apparently more efficient at the high frequencies which the "heaters" utilize.


Introduction to H.A.A.R.P.

by Dan Eden

Many articles have been written about HAARP. What this author wishes to make clear is that he believes HAARP was not the actual facility designed to be used as a military system but a "front" or "red herring" facility which allows the authorities to deny important questions about its purpose and operation and which conducted basic research with its limited power of about 3MW.

 The real facility is located in Poker Flats, North of Fairbanks, Alaska. Please read the Congressional Executive Summary which is provided here in unedited form for the truth.

Some background on HAARP & How it works


 Albert Einstein's theories of relativity and the development of atomic energy are seen as the pinnacles of Twentieth Century technology. Like most innovative applications of newly discovered laws of physics, the benefit that they afford the common citizen is often usurped by the sinister need of the military to kill each other or ruin the environment -- all in the name of security.

Bernard Eastlund's discoveries, are innovative applications of the work of Tesla and Faraday. His plans to provide power on any spot on the planet, to modify weather and eliminate drought, floods and hurricanes was usurped by the US military to make a death ray.

 Bernard Eastlund is a very private man and a physicist with a small company in Houston. In the mid-80's, Eastlund invented and patented a technology that will will reshape our lives, for better or for worse, whether we like it or not.

 A few years ago, ViewZone ran a photograph that was sent to us for identification (see Unusual Photographs). We received many wild explanations, from underground alien bases to ancient city streets. But a handful of anonymous e-mails were consistent. These described the long, parallel, perfectly straight lines as part of an antenna complex used to communicate with submerged submarines. These same e-mails spoke of "death rays" that could blast distant locations with lethal electromagnetic radiation.

 The photograph was eventually believed to be an ELF (an acronym for Extremely Low Frequency) antenna installation, designed for submarine communication. There is one almost identical to the photograph in Michigan. Since our anonymous informants seemed to be so knowledgeable, we were curious about their claims of a "death ray" installation located somewhere in Alaska. Our informants directed our attention to something called HAARP (High Frequency Active Aurora Ionospheric Research Program).

 HAARP is a military project based on Eastlund's discoveries. It is a difficult program to discuss technically with non-scientists and, as such, it has eluded the spotlight of the popular press. But for years now, conspiracy web sites and some credible scientific publications have questioned what's going on and how messing with the ionosphere could be hurting the environment.

 To make matters worse, HAARP has been maintained partially as a clandestine project, operated by the US Navy. The information that is made available to the public is carefully worded to make HAARP appear as a bland, harmless, unclassified, atmospheric research facility.

 This public image is maintained, in part, through a website (Note: It appears they have taken the web site "off-line" also!), complete with a reassuring, updated, digital photograph, showing dozens of motionless aluminum dipole antennae at their remote Alaskan base. Public statements speak about "better understanding the ionosphere," a layer of Earth's atmosphere about 60-90 Km. high.

 They are polite when questioned, but stick to their "harmless research" stories, despite contradictions in the press and in publicly available documents. In preparation for this article, ViewZone contacted HAARP. Not only did they deny that the facility was doing military work, but they also diminished the work of Dr. Eastlund, implying that he knew very little about his own discovery. (In contrast to now admitting that they do DARPA work.)

 Eventually everyone will know about Bernard Eastlund and his work. It will someday be taught in schools. His technology will impact every living thing. But this will have to wait for the military, who own his valuable patents, to release Eastlund's work for humane applications. For the time being, this work is buried in the secretive work of HAARP.

 To completely understand Eastlund's work, you must first understand how and why HAARP works. This is not an easy task. But we'll try to keep it simple.

Posted 16th February 2014 by Sagar

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http://nepalrastra.blogspot.com/2014/02/haarp-facility-shut-down.html (http://nepalrastra.blogspot.com/2014/02/haarp-facility-shut-down.html)



Agelbert NOTE: The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is a federal agency focused on the condition of the oceans and the atmosphere.

BUT FOR SOME INTERESTING REASON, H.A.A.R.P is run by Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), an agency of the U.S. Department of Defense  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 25, 2015, 05:45:59 pm
America's most well armed and organized STREET GANG  (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-misc-023.gif)


America's most well armed and organized STREET GANG is composed mainly of VETERANS of the TRADITIONAL U.S. MILITARY policy of having absolutely no regard for human life (AND BRAGGING ABOUT IT TOO.).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmGWLsn0iM&feature=player_embedded

What goes around, comes around.

Our CRIMiNAL "Justice" SYSTEM knows EXACTLY what it is doing and WHY it is doing it (i.e. the M.I.C. profit over planet MO - see below). Yes, it looks Orwellian. Yes, it looks like cognitive dissonant mindfu ck. But, it is really quite a consistent with the M.I.C. world view.   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2z6in9g.gif)



Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in WikiLeaks case (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-to-sentence-bradley-manning-today/2013/08/20/85bee184-09d0-11e3-b87c-476db8ac34cd_story.html) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil12.gif)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvmfOaZ34Pk&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 26, 2015, 07:08:49 pm
Impact of the Earthquake  :(

Agelbert NOTE: It is a testament to how messed up our world is that Nepal, a country championing 100% organic crops and home to peace loving and defending buddhists, is struck by a destructive earthquake cluster. Maybe the conspiracy theorists are right about the USA's HAARP network ability to cause earthquakes.

From the little I understand, several weeks of aftershocks are likely here as well, which will further endanger survivors and add to the death toll.

One quibble, AG. Assuming TPTB even had the capability via HAARP, why in the world would they want to fu ck with Nepal?

No oil. No nukes. No threat.

Color me puzzled.

Surly,
I will explain to you why I am not surprised that, IF they have HAARP earthquake ability, they certainly WOULD target Nepal.

Nepal, if you recall from that video I suggested to Knarf that he enjoyed a month or so ago, is home to lovers of PEACE. Our country is run by lovers of WAR. Buddhism has made inroads into the American world view. Christianity has been successfully perverted into a war LOVING cult in this country by YOU KNOW WHO. NOT SO with Buddhism.

Now, if you were some war loving ASS HOLE in the M.I.C., you would ALWAYS, as you yourself have mentioned in several articles you have posted, want to stir up trouble somewhere to justify more public money for the M.I.C. coffers. But, you WOULD pick your targets to get the best CAPITALIST bang for the buck, so to speak. And the propaganda arm of the M.I.C. would be the one tasked with preparing a list, according to priority, of said targets.

Your propaganda arm will CERTAINLY take notice of people here at home that want peace because of Buddhism inspired CFS. The current YOGA rage in this country is indirect evidence of that. THAT is a THREAT to the M.I.C. money machine. What better way to "nip that in the bud" than to "PROVE" that their "mind over matter" world view is "baloney" and they are all just "wishful thinkers" that don't "do the math".

THINK LIKE MKing, Surly, and you won't be puzzled. REMEMBER that the tool of propaganda is FAR MORE IMPORTANT for governing and exploiting the minds of the masses than open force.

Yes, the earthquake(s) thing IS FORCE, but war lovers can claim "GOD" did it as a propaganda coup!

This hidden message that "Buddhism is baloney" (it certainly is NOT baloney! They are a force for GOOD in this world!) as evidenced by the Nepal earthquakes ALSO helps MONSANTO and BIG AG! Nepal is a pioneer in being the first country to go 100% organic farming.

Buddhism is a logical target for the war lovers BECAUSE millions of people in the USA ARE ADOPTING IT NOW. TPTB NEED to undermine the CFS word view of the Buddhists.

I don't KNOW if the HAARP thing is real or not. But if it was, and I wanted a world where NOBODY believes in ANYTHING but the APEX FU CKING PREDATOR, I would target Buddhism in general and their most cherished buildings in particular. And I would make propaganda hay out of the "God did it" allegation too!   (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)

The next phase in this dystopic EVIL will be for some ASS HOLE that passes for a "Christian " (e.g. Pat Robertson) to say, "See, if Buddhism had any value, their alleged mind over matter and good vibrations would have prevented the earthquake(s) bad vibrations"   -followed by a smirk and some laughs.  :evil4:

This is all SO WRONG. I will be glad to leave this valley of tears. Evil has won, Surly. May God have mercy on us all.
(http://www.mrwallpaper.com/wallpapers/Sad-Sunflower.jpg)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 26, 2015, 08:42:27 pm
New budget of 25 million for HAARP type High Frequency arrays (HF / VHF)

February 5, 2015 tatoott@yahoo.com

Here we are in 2015 a full year after they announced a temporary “closure” of the HF (high frequency) facility in Gakona, AK — and we come to find out that the only thing that changed up in Alaska is the NAME of the facility.

The US Navy has requested 25 million for a few UNNAMED high frequency (HF) Arrays for the fiscal year of 2015. Specifically to do the same type of experiments that the HAARP program was doing!

Obviously, there are only a few places on US soil where these polar facilities can exist, thus we know the “array” being talked about is the only array we know of… the IRI antenna array in Gakona (slang termed the HAARP antennas).

http://tatsrevolution.com/new-budget-of-25-million-for-haarp-type-high-frequency-arrays-hf-vhf/ (http://tatsrevolution.com/new-budget-of-25-million-for-haarp-type-high-frequency-arrays-hf-vhf/)

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No longer to be called H.A.A.R.P. — the program has been disbanded — now replaced with a more general term of High Frequency ‘Array’.  ;)

The “program” ends, but the antenna facilities go on to future uses. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)

I suppose HAARP is now to be called the Alaskan High Frequency Array (HFA?!)

The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) was/is part of a network of arrays being used worldwide, and surely not the last to be built.

No doubt about it now, they’ve allocated money for the same experiments, at the same facilities. Just dropped the program name of “HAARP”.  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)

http://tatsrevolution.com/new-budget-of-25-million-for-haarp-type-high-frequency-arrays-hf-vhf/ (http://tatsrevolution.com/new-budget-of-25-million-for-haarp-type-high-frequency-arrays-hf-vhf/)


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 27, 2015, 05:04:21 pm
Cartoon: Death & Destruction, Inc.  

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/24/1379662/-Cartoon-Death-Destruction-Inc
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 09, 2015, 02:43:21 pm
Anthony Freda.

(https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11230227_980391981984983_3016159771107748711_n.jpg?oh=cee791eaa1f11115b0bdfa8f8c5f5858&oe=55C1DEB9)

Democracy don't rule the world, you better get that through your head. This world is ruled by violence, but I guess that's better left unsaid." B. Dylan

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/03/26/body-count-report-reveals-least-13-million-lives-lost-us-led-war-terror (http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/03/26/body-count-report-reveals-least-13-million-lives-lost-us-led-war-terror)

Yep.  :(
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 12, 2015, 07:00:34 pm
Mon May 11, 2015 at 09:41 AM PDT.

Pope Francis: 'Many powerful people don't want peace because they live off war'

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/11/1384007/-Pope-Francis-Many-powerful-people-don-t-want-peace-because-they-live-off-war

Agelbert NOTE: Two sides of the SAME Profit over Planet COIN. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil19.gif)
(http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/images/bushs-war-business2.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8lLqXmO11e8/Ur31Tt8n48I/AAAAAAAAZkc/FFlmfS0ikUQ/s1600/ThanksObama.jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 15, 2015, 06:44:50 pm
The Crisis Within Activism is a Crisis Within Democracy   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif)

Micah White, PhD  “Shift the paradigms of protest!”

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CC: Can the internet become something more than a network in which feelings are spread?

MW: There is a hope that perhaps the Internet allows us an electronic democracy. That's the idea of the 5 Star Movement in Italy. Participants use the internet to decide on legislation and to select candidates for the elections. The idea of the Internet enabling collective decision-making is very interesting, but difficult to achieve.

CC:
Some people prefer digital activism to the street. What do you think?

MW:
In the early stages, the Internet is very important for social movements. However, over time, the Internet becomes harmful because things start to look better online than in real life. This happened with Occupy. The protest looked better on Facebook than it did in the streets. This is negative because people start to prefer the online experience to the real world. So the Internet is a double-edged sword. The internet is a weapon that is not fully under our control, and it is very difficult to wield effectively.

CC: Do you believe that the advance of neoliberalism has helped reduce the importance of social movements around the world?

MW:
Protests are a form of war and war is politics by other means. Protests are ways of influencing the political system by unconventional methods. And the revolution is a change in the legal regime. It is transforming what is legal into something illegal or making what is illegal legal. If social movements are a form of warfare then it is clear that the forces that are in power will use all possible means to destroy social movements. The problem is activists do not see their protests in the context of war. We see them as a big party or something, while the other side realizes the importance of the event.  Above all, however, it is crucial not blame others. We must blame ourselves. Social movements do not fail because the police are very strong. Throughout history, people have overthrown governments with a much stronger police, either because they found a way to defeat them in the streets or because they managed to get the police to change sides. So when our protests fail it is because our theory of change was wrong and not because the other side was stronger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkqotfAStM&feature=player_embedded

https://www.micahmwhite.com/crisis-in-activism-interview
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 23, 2015, 09:29:54 pm
Mon Jun 22, 2015 at 11:40 AM EDT.

Pope Francis points out hypocrisy of manufacturing weapons and calling yourself Christian (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)
 


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Walter Einenkel

Pope Francis continues doing and saying wild and crazy things. No, he didn't meet with LGBT activists in South America again. This time he decided to point out some of the hypocrisy of "Christians" for whom Christian-like acts seem anathema.

Francis issued his toughest condemnation to date of the weapons industry at a rally of thousands of young people at the end of the first day of his trip to the Italian city of Turin.
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"It makes me think of ... people, managers, businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons. That leads to a bit a [sic] distrust, doesn't it?" he said to applause.

He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries, saying "duplicity is the currency of today ... they say one thing and do another."

Yeah, it does lead to a bit of distrust, Pope Francis.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/22/1394476/-Pope-Francis-points-out-hypocrisy-of-manufacturing-weapons-and-calling-yourself-Christian
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 08, 2015, 10:43:18 pm
US Government Insider Prepared To Testify Against US Government For Their Prime Role In The 9/11 Attacks

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Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Baker. 

He recently had an interview (audio available below) with Alex Jones to discuss the recent Osama Bin Laden hoax, and how Bin Laden had been dead for years.

 Toward the latter part of the interview he drops a bombshell about the September 11th 2001 attacks of the World Trade Center.  That he had inside information from a top General at the time that the attacks were not only known ahead of time by the US Government, but, as many of us have been saying for years, completely planned by the US Government, and that he is prepared to testify before a Federal Grand Jury with all of this information. 

He mentioned many people involved in the planning of the attacks including George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and many more.  The 9/11 information begins at audio mark 01:00:35.

 It’s a great interview overall, Dr Pieczenik has the spirit every American needs.

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http://blog.thedrahos.net/2011/05/us-government-insider-prepared-to-testify-against-us-government-for-their-prime-role-in-the-911-attacks/

VIDEO below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvSa01qvQo&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 08, 2015, 11:04:04 pm
Farage tells it like it is!  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94UcyJnRcGU&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 10, 2015, 12:26:40 am
Osama & 911 was False Flag (Part2) - Dr. Steve Pieczenik - Alex Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDLnXstRaCQ&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 10, 2015, 12:28:18 am
Osama & 911 was False Flag (Part3) - Dr. Steve Pieczenik - Alex Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMzGRL03FMo&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 11, 2015, 01:57:42 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E&feature=player_embedded
General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Bn_CC_mrg&feature=player_embedded
The 9/11 video that was aired once and never aired again.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 11, 2015, 04:42:52 pm
‘Guerrilla Warfare Against a Hegemonic Power’: The Challenge and Promise of Greece

http://www.truthdig.com/report/page3/guerrilla_warfare_against_a_hegemonic_power_the_challenge_20150710

Agelbert Comment:
Ellen, you have been making perfect sense about banking issues for over a decade. But the problem is not that the EU or the US hegemonic type mens rea modus operandi of these bankers is due to ignorance which is financially counter productive; the problem is that they ARE MAFIA. The criminal mafia is PEANUTS compared to these Empathy Deficit Disordered financiers.

There is ZERO reason to respect the troika bankers. They are criminals, period.
Greece should go the electronic money route for goods and services in country NOW. If you sell your house, you get a check. You can use that check to buy local with a debit card, The currency can be Drachmas, Dollars, Euros or seashells for that matter.

People will look at your house and price it accordingly. Sellers of local products will do the same. This is not hard.

SCREW the creditors and bond holders. It's time for Greece to get real about their own version of Empathy Deficit Disordered in house greed balls that keep degrading the country, as well as the ones outside the country in the Troika.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 14, 2015, 12:34:18 am
Pope Francis Tells World Youth to Rise Up Against Global Capitalism (http://cliparts.co/cliparts/Big/Egq/BigEgqBMT.png)

Lauren McCauley, CommonDreams | July 13, 2015 1:52 pm

The latest call for a youth uprising against global capitalism came not from grassroots groups, but from the leader of the Catholic Church, who on Sunday gave a rousing speech during which he told a crowd of young people in Paraguay that it is their time to “make a mess.”

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The address marked the end of Pope Francis’ week-long pilgrimage to Latin America, during which he also assailed the prevailing economic system as the “dung of the devil,” saying that the systemic “greed for money” is a “subtle dictatorship” that “condemns and enslaves men and women.”

During Sunday’s rally, which was held on the banks of the Paraguay River outside the capital Asunción, the Argentinian pontiff went off-script as he addressed tens of thousands of local youth.

“They wrote a speech for me to give you. But speeches are boring,” Pope Francis said. “Make a mess, but then also help to tidy it up. A mess which gives us a free heart, a mess which gives us solidarity, a mess which gives us hope.”

He also encouraged those present to look at their less fortunate peers, some of whom he met earlier in the day during a visit to the Banado Norte shantytown, and spoke of the connection between authentic liberty and responsibility and the necessity of fighting for the right to lead a dignified life.

“We don’t want young weaklings. We do not want young people who tire quickly, who live life worn out with faces of boredom. We want youths with hope and strength,” Francis told the crowd.

Pope Francis’ South American visit comes just week after the release of his Papal Encyclical, which many hailed as a “radical statement,” in which he told leaders of the Catholic Church that there is a moral imperative for addressing climate change.

http://ecowatch.com/2015/07/13/pope-francis-rise-up-global-capitalism/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on August 22, 2015, 06:11:42 pm
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/cubas-low-level-of-internet-use-not-a-policy-of-restricting-the-flow-of-information/ (https://gowans.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/cubas-low-level-of-internet-use-not-a-policy-of-restricting-the-flow-of-information/)
Cuba’s Low Level of Internet Use: Not a Policy of Restricting the Flow of Information
Stephen Gowans
August 22, 2015

If you want to find examples of governments restricting the flow of information on the internet for political purposes, look to the United States and its allies, and not to the low-level of internet use in Cuba, which, notwithstanding press reports to the contrary, is a consequence of Cuba’s comparatively low-level of economic development, not communist ‘totalitarianism.’

Part of the dogma of capitalist societies is that communist states are inherently restrictive and ‘totalitarian’, in contrast to liberal democracies, which are portrayed as beacons of liberty. Communist states, we’re told, suppress dissent, while capitalist states allow it to flourish. This, of course, is nonsense. All states, regardless of how they’re organized economically, suppress dissent under circumstances of grave threat, and relax repression as danger diminishes. Those that are the most free, are those that face the least danger. Highly restrictive societies are typically highly threatened. The restrictions in the Soviet Union from its birth in 1917 to its collapse in 1991 are pointed to as proof of the totalitarian nature of communism (or “Stalinism”), but the reality that the country was in a permanent state of crisis is ignored, and restrictive measures have long been recognized as legitimate and necessary under emergency conditions, including in liberal theory and practice. Wave after wave of aggression crashed against the Soviet Union from its birth until its collapse. These included the aggressions of Wilhelmine Germany, the intervention of the Entente powers in the Civil War, Japan’s harassment of Soviet borders in the 1930s, the invasion of Nazi Germany, the Cold War, and Reagan’s program of spending the Soviets into bankruptcy. The objective of each aggression was the total annihilation of the communist state.

Totalitarianism has not been a stranger to liberal democracies either. Despite being sheltered by two oceans, having no hostile powers on its borders, and facing no realistic threat of invasion, the US state in two world wars invested its executive with dictatorial powers. These were used to direct the country’s economy, control the flow of information, crackdown on dissent, and herd potential fifth columnists into concentration camps. Even today, despite facing the comparatively minor threat of potential blowback from the political Islamic forces it has long supported to disrupt secular Arab nationalism [1], the United States, Britain, France, Canada and Australia have invested the political policing functions of their respective states with growing powers of surveillance and disruption.

Philosopher and historian Domenico Losurdo observes:

    In reality, although protected by the Atlantic and the Pacific, every time it has rightly or wrongly felt itself imperilled, the North American republic has proceeded to a more or less drastic reinforcement of executive power and to more or less heavy restrictions on freedom of association of expression. This applies to the years immediately following the French Revolution (when its devotees on American soil were hit by the Alien and Sedition Acts), to the Civil War, the First Word War, the Great Depression, the Second World War and the Cold War. Even in our day, the sequel of the attack of 11 September 2001 was the opening of a concentration camp at Guantanamo, where detainees have been imprisoned without trial, and without even being informed of a specific charge, regardless of age. However terrible, the threat of terrorism is minor compared with that of invasion and military occupation, not to mention nuclear destruction. [2]

The restrictive practices, or ‘totalitarianism’, of communist states are not inherent. They are, instead, defensive measures against external threat. Cuba and North Korea have been under a greater sustained threat of invasion and military occupation than any other country (and North Korea is additionally under the threat of nuclear destruction.) It is in these countries that the pressure for restrictive practices is most acutely felt. Nor are restrictions on civil and political liberties unique to communist states. They are also found in abundance in capitalist countries, as well.

To illustrate how the dogma in capitalist society conditions its mass media to portray communist countries as inherently restrictive, consider a recent Wall Street Journal article on the expansion of internet access in Cuba (“Cubans get a tantalizing taste of the internet,” August 19, 2015).

The article attributes the comparatively low level of internet use on the Caribbean island to a theorized desire of Cuban authorities to control the flow of information, rather than to a more likely explanation, namely Cuba’s low level of economic development. We would expect that more developed countries would have a higher level of internet use, and less developed countries a lower level. If the level of internet use in Cuba is on par with that of other countries at the same level of economic development, the country’s low level of internet use can be explained by economic development, not a desire to restrict access to the internet to control the flow of information.

The graph below uses World Bank data to show the relationship between internet use per 100 people and GDP per capita. If the Cuban government deliberately restricts internet use, we would expect Cuba to depart significantly to the right of the trend line. Instead, it falls close to it, meaning the level of internet use in Cuba is typical of countries at an equal level of economic development. We can dismiss, therefore, the view that the Caribbean island’s low level of internet use is due to the government deliberately restricting access to the Web. The Wall Street Journal’s explanation of the low level of internet use in Cuba is a political argument, intended to mislead and discredit, not illuminate.

Internet users per 100At 30 users per 100 people in 2014, internet use in Cuba was on par with that of Egypt (32) and El Salvador (30) and greater than in Guatemala (23), Honduras (19), India (18), Nicaragua (18) and Haiti (11) (World Bank). The average for Central America, a region on which the United States has lavished much attention to keep it free from communist ‘totalitarianism’, was 29, virtually equal to that of Cuba. If Cuba’s low level of internet use is indicative of Havana deliberately restricting access to the internet to control the flow of information, then the governments of Central America, along with Egypt and India, must also be ‘totalitarian.’

More fertile ground for identifying governments that impede the flow of information for political purposes can be found in the US orbit, among such trusted US (and capitalist) allies as South Korea, Turkey, Britain, Canada and the United States itself.

The South Korean police state vigorously effaces online content it doesn’t want South Koreans to see. When a computer user in South Korea clicks on an item on the North Korean Twitter account, a government warning against illegal content pops up. In 2011, South Korean authorities blocked over 53,000 internet posts for infractions which included having a kind word to say about North Korea. In the same year, the South Korean police state deleted over 67,000 Web posts that were deemed favorable to North Korea or which criticized the US or South Korean government. Over 14,000 posts were deleted in 2009. [3]

In Turkey, “thousands of Web sites are blocked by the state, mostly without any publicized reason.” [4]

In Britain, government officials have met with representatives of Twitter, Facebook and BlackBerry “to discuss voluntary ways to limit or restrict the use of social media to combat crime and periods of civil unrest.” Free-speech advocates liken these policies to those the British government “has criticized in totalitarian and one-party states.” [5]

The Canadian government recently passed legislation that would give its spy agency, CSIS, authority to disrupt “radical websites” and remove “terrorist propaganda” from the Internet—that is, restrict the flow of information on the Web. [6]

As for the United States, in 2009 “the U.S. Treasury Department ordered the closure of more than eighty websites related to Cuba that promoted trade and thus violated U.S. legislation on economic sanctions.” [7]

If the United States, South Korea, Turkey, Britain and Canada restrict the flow of information on the Internet for political reasons, how is it that Cuba is totalitarian, but these states are beacons of liberty?

Two further points.

First, the United States has waged a campaign of economic warfare against Cuba for over five decades. It’s impossible to say how large the Cuban economy would be today had it been allowed to develop unimpeded, but some estimates put the cost to Cuba of US economic aggression at $750 to $975 billion. [8] One analyst estimates that “Without the blockade, the Cuban standard of living today might well be equal to that of Western Europe.” [9] If so, internet use in Cuba would likely resemble European levels of 76 per 100 people, rather than today’s 30.

Second, the US propaganda system can’t mention internet access in Cuba without making reference to blogger Yoani Sanchez, whose online newspaper 14ymedio “is blocked in Cuba,” according to The Wall Street Journal. [10] There is a good reason for this. Sanchez’s web site appears to be a hostile project of the United States, a country in a virtual state of war with Cuba. Despite her status as a grassroots dissident, Sanchez’s web site is miraculously “available in no less than 18 languages….No other site in the world, including those of major international institutions such as the UN, World Bank, IMF, OECD, and the European Union, has as many language versions available. Not even the U.S. State Department web site or the CIA has such a variety.” [11]

Moreover,

    The site hosting the blog of Sanchez has a bandwidth 60 times higher than Cuba has for all its Internet users! Other questions inevitably arise about it: Who manages these pages in 18 languages? Who pays the administrators? How much? Who pays for the translators who work daily on Sanchez's site? How much? Furthermore, the management of a flow of more than 14 million visitors monthly is extremely expensive. Who pays for that? [12]

Jose Luis Martinez, a spokesman for the Foundation for Human Rights in Cuba, attributes the blocking of 14ymedio to the Cuban government’s desire “to have some type of control” and of being “a totalitarian regime trying to operate in the 21st century.” [13] US client state Egypt has locked up nearly 500 of Sanchez’s fellow political bloggers [14], while Washington’s strategic partner and major arms buyer Saudi Arabia has sentenced one blogger to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes for his dissident views [15], yet Havana, the ‘totalitarian regime’ that insists on ‘some type of control’, has spared Sanchez a similar fate. By Martinez’s reasoning, Egypt—which receives $1.3 billion annually in military aid from the United States, second only to Israel [16]—must be a totalitarian state on steroids. And yet it suffers none of the denigration Western news media heap on Cuba.

Losurdo observes that if Cuba’s measures for repressing some political dissent are totalitarianism, then West Germany, which did not shrink from repressing communists, and which, like Hitler, banned the Communist Party, would also have to be regarded as totalitarian. [17] The same could be said of South Korea, whose infamous National Security Law continues to be used to lock up leftists. The South Korea police state recently disbanded one left-wing party, stripping its legislators of their parliamentary seats, and jailing a handful of its members, including the lawmaker Lee Seok-ki. [18]

Decades of low-intensity warfare against Cuba carried out by the United States, including a blockade, unremitting military threat, sabotage, support for fifth columnists, and occasional terrorism, has created a de facto state of war. Nevertheless, Cuba has reacted to this situation with measures no more drastic than those implemented in the United States during two world wars, [19] and no more drastic than those once implemented in West Germany and currently practiced with vigor in South Korea.

It’s not ‘totalitarian’ Cuban government policy that has limited internet use in Cuba. Internet use in Cuba has been limited by the comparatively low level of development of the Cuban economy and the US economic aggression which has stifled it. What restrictions Cuba has implemented are warranted defensive measures against the predations of its hyper-aggressive neighbor to the north. This, however, would be news to those who follow the mass media in capitalist societies. The sole interest of these media when it comes to Cuba and North Korea is to discredit ideological competitors through the propagation of dogma which treats the warts of all societies as uniquely present in those of communism and absent in those of capitalism.



1. See Robert Dreyfus, Devil’s Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam, Holt Paperbacks, 2005 and Mark Curtis, Secret Affairs: Britain’s Collusion with Radical Islam, Serpent’s Tail, 2010.

2. Domenico Losurdo. War and Revolution: Rethinking the 20th Century. Verso. 2015. p 58.

3. Stephen Gowans, “South Korea’s Police State Wages War on Proponents of Democracy,” what’s left, January 27, 2015.

4. Sebnem Arsu, “Internet filters set off protests around Turkey”, The New York Times, May 15, 2011.

5. Ravi Somaiya, “In Britain, a meeting on limiting social media”, The New York Times, August 25, 2011.

6. “Tell Parliament-defeat police state bill C-51!”, People’s Voice, February 5, 2015.

7. Salim Lamrani, “The Contradictions of Cuban Blogger Yoani Sanchez,” MRZine, December 11, 2009.

8. Aida Calviac Mora, “With Obama in the White House, the blockade hasn’t changed at all”, Granma International, September 16, 2010; Thomas Kenny, “Interview with Thomas Kenny co-author of Socialism of ‘Betrayed Behind the Collapse of the Soviet Union, 1917-1991,” PoliticalEconomy.ie, March 16, 2015.

9. Kenny.

10. Ryan Dube, “Cubans get a tantalizing taste of the internet,” The Wall Street Journal, August 19, 2015.

11. Lamrani.

12. Lamrani.

13. Dube.

14. Jeffrey Fleishman, “In Egypt, a blogger tries to spread ‘culture of disobedience’ among youths,” The Los Angeles Times, April 29, 2009.

15. Jay Solomon and Felicia Schwartz, “U.S. rebukes Saudis for sentencing blogger to 1,000 lashes,” The Wall Street Journal, January 8, 2014.

16. Carol E. Lee and Gordon Lubold, “U.S. seeks to allay concerns of allies on Iran nuclear deal,” The Wall Street Journal, July 19, 2015.

17. Losurdo, p. 312.

18. Gowans.

19. Losurdo, p. 312.
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Agelbert NOTE: I wish to add one observation. It's not that the leadership of the US felt imperiled. The fact is the US was an expansionist power from the start. They covered up for that with "Enlightenment" rhetoric, but that was, and is, just a clever guise. And expansionist power needs to have a well oiled propaganda machine to convince the public to support wars in taxes and blood. Consequently, the creation of enemies is par for the propaganda course. The public had to be convinced they were "imperiled" in order to sucker said public into being fleeced six ways from Sunday. The NAZI propaganda modus operandi had long been used (and still is used) by the US propaganda machine to fund wars and mayhem.

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Wartime propagandists universally seek to justify the use of military violence by portraying it as morally defensible and necessary. To do otherwise would jeopardize public morale and faith in the government and its armed forces.

Throughout the Second World War, Nazi propagandists disguised military aggression aimed at territorial conquest as righteous and necessary acts of self-defense. (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg)

They cast Germany as a victim or potential victim of foreign aggressors, as a peace-loving nation forced to take up arms to protect its populace or defend European civilization against Communism. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/tissue.gif)

The war aims professed at each stage of the hostilities almost always disguised actual Nazi intentions of territorial expansion and racial warfare.

This was propaganda of deception, designed to fool or misdirect the populations in Germany, German-occupied lands, and the neutral countries.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007822 (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007822)

Does the above not sound nauseatingly familiar to Fox News and friends programming?
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The US tried to do to Cuba (from 1959 until the present) what France, England and the US did to Haiti from 1803 until the present. It did not work.

Now they are going to plan B which involves neoliberal happy talk and seductive attempts to increase mindless consumerism in Cuba. Cuba knows the score. The predatory capitalists had better bring a sandwich.  ;D

 
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on August 31, 2015, 10:25:14 pm
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Until we dismantle the neoliberal order and recover the humanistic tradition that rejects the view that human beings and the Earth are commodities to exploit, our form of industrialized and economic barbarity will collide with the barbarity of those who oppose us.

The only choice offered by “bourgeois society,” as  Friedrich Engels knew, is “socialism (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/icare.gif) (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/earthhug.gif) or regression into barbarism.”  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil19.gif)(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2z6in9g.gif) (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/3ztzsjm.gif)  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6348.gif)  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil12.gif)


It is time we make this choice.

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The Great Unraveling

Posted on Aug 30, 2015 By Chris Hedges
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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_great_unraveling_20150830

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on September 27, 2015, 02:51:28 am
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Part of that foreign policy that keeps us all living under Cheneylaw rather than Napoleonic.

ISIS only exists because Pres. Bush and his puppet master, Dick Cheney, invaded Iraq under false pretenses in order to enrich their military contractor buddies (Cheney's own Halliburton profited $39 billion).


Yep. There is a long tradition backing Cheney's MO (see 'Destructive Creations' peddled as 'Creative Destructions'  :evil4:).

We all know that everybody on Wall Street lies whenever necessary to make a lot of money. But since 2012 we know that at least one fourth of them tell the truth in surveys...

A Quarter Of Wall Street Executives Say You Have To Be Unethical To Succeed (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/pirates5B15D_th.gif)

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Jul. 10, 2012, 5:12 PM
According to a report released today by Labaton Sucharow, a shocking 24 percent of financial executives from the US and UK believe that it is necessary "to engage in unethical or illegal conduct in order to be successful."

Perhaps more surprising, 26 percent of the 500 senior executives polled said they actually knew about immoral behavior going on in the work place.

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-quarter-of-wall-street-executives-think-unethical-activity-is-required-to-succeed-2012-7 (http://www.businessinsider.com/a-quarter-of-wall-street-executives-think-unethical-activity-is-required-to-succeed-2012-7)

Shocking? SURPRISING!!?

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on October 01, 2015, 09:40:56 pm
World  |  Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:12am EDT
Related:  World 

Russia pledges counter measures if U.S. upgrades nuclear arms in Germany         (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-300714025456.bmp)


MOSCOW

Russian President Vladimir Putin arrives to deliver his speech during an opening ceremony of the MAKS International Aviation and Space Salon in Zhukovsky, outside Moscow, Russia, August 25, 2015. REUTERS/Maxim Shemetov


Russia would be forced to take counter measures to restore the balance of power in Europe if media reports that the United States plans to upgrade its nuclear presence in Germany are true, President Vladimir Putin's spokesman said on Wednesday.

The spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, was commenting after Germany's ZDF TV Channel reported that the United States intended to place 20 B61-12 nuclear bombs at the Büchel Air Base later this year.
 
"This could alter the balance of power in Europe," Peskov told reporters. "And without doubt it would demand that Russia take necessary counter measures to restore the strategic balance and parity."
 
 
(Reporting by Masha Tsvetkova and Katya Golubkova; Editing by Andrew Osborn)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/23/us-usa-nuclear-germany-russia-idUSKCN0RN0SX20150923

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 14, 2015, 05:27:17 pm
November 2015: Natural Analogy to Paris

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 14, 2015, 05:35:57 pm
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 14, 2015, 06:18:54 pm
Monsta said,
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Let us assume the false flag theory is true and this event was planned what would be the objective of such an event? Would it be to convince the French public to be more supportive of aggressive military actions or to take a more hard line approach to immigration? I think if there is a motive it would more likely be the former as staging an event like this simply to reduce immigration is overkill.

I agree that the motive is not more war in the Middle East or the immigration thing.

So, WHAT IS THE MOTIVE?

Polluters Goebbels Style Conspiracy to Sabotage COP21


Let us connect the war profiteering dots, shall we? Some here will scoff and say I just discarded "more war" as a motive. Yes, I did that. But I DID NOT discard WAR SCARE propaganda.

WHAT, EXACTLY, is scheduled to happen next month in PARIS that threatens the bottom line of ALL the war profiteering ****s all over the planet?

COP21!

Can you think of a better way to DISTRACT the worldwide public from the climate change reforms that spell bankruptcy for the polluting "business models" that RELY on price shocks and wars to keep making billions of dollars in profits to buy or bop politicians with?

Can you think of a better way to frighten all the delegates from all over the world coming to Paris next month?

Can you think of a better way to keep the climate change issue OFF the front pages while the COP21 conference gets CASTRATED by the fossil fuel, mining, chemical, weapons manufacturing and pharmaceutical (etc.) industries?

(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-object-106.gif) THESE PEOPLE WILL DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO PRESERVE THEIR PROFITS!
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Polluters: Do not **** with our "business model" or our profits.  :evil4:

IF IT'S BLOOD ON THE STREETS THAT IS CALLED FOR, THEY WILL DO IT! THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD FOR DOING IT!. FOLLOW THE GOD DAMNED MONEY! (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-028.gif) $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$ EVERY YEAR!!!

(http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1379/5686/original.jpg)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 14, 2015, 08:13:31 pm

Jon Schwarz says The Devil’s Chessboard confirms that “your darkest suspicions about how the world operates are likely an underestimate.

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JFK And The Secret Rockefeller Government - a double book review

Nov. 13, 2015 7:14 am  by Roger Casement 


This is a consideration/review by David Swanson of the both excellent "JFK And The Unspeakable - Why he died and why it matters", by James Douglass. And "The Devil's Chessboard", by David Talbot.


“JFK and the Unspeakable” and “The Deep State”: The Assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy, The Role of Allen DullesBy David SwansonGlobal Research, November 13, 2015David Swanson's Blog 13 November 2015Region: USATheme: Intelligence

By now there’s not nearly as much disagreement regarding what happened to John and Robert Kennedy as major communications corporations would have you believe. While every researcher and author highlights different details, there isn’t any serious disagreement among, say, Jim Douglass’ JFK and the Unspeakable, Howard Hunt’s deathbed confession, and David Talbot’s new The Devil’s Chessboard.

Jon Schwarz says The Devil’s Chessboard confirms that “your darkest suspicions about how the world operates are likely an underestimate. Yes, there is an amorphous group of unelected corporate lawyers, bankers, and intelligence and military officials who form an American ‘deep state,’ setting real limits on the rare politicians who ever try to get out of line.”

For those of us who were already convinced of that up to our eyeballs, Talbot’s book is still one of the best I’ve seen on the Dulles brothers and one of the best I’ve seen on the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Where it differs from Douglass’ book, I think, is not so much in the evidence it relates or the conclusions it draws, but in providing an additional motivation for the crime.

JFK and the Unspeakable
depicts Kennedy as getting in the way of the violence that Allen Dulles and gang wished to engage in abroad. He wouldn’t fight Cuba or the Soviet Union or Vietnam or East Germany or independence movements in Africa. He wanted disarmament and peace. He was talking cooperatively with Khrushchev, as Eisenhower had tried prior to the U2-shootdown sabotage. The CIA was overthrowing governments in Iran, Guatemala, the Congo, Vietnam, and around the world. Kennedy was getting in the way.

The Devil’s Chessboard depicts Kennedy, in addition, as himself being the sort of leader the CIA was in the habit of overthrowing in those foreign capitals. Kennedy had made enemies of bankers and industrialists. He was working to shrink oil profits by closing tax loopholes, including the “oil depletion allowance.” He was permitting the political left in Italy to participate in power, outraging the extreme right in Italy, the U.S., and the CIA. He aggressively went after steel corporations and prevented their price hikes. This was the sort of behavior that could get you overthrown if you lived in one of those countries with a U.S. embassy in it.

Yes, Kennedy wanted to eliminate or drastically weaken and rename the CIA. Yes he threw Dulles and some of his gang out the door. Yes he refused to launch World War III over Cuba or Berlin or anything else. Yes he had the generals and warmongers against him, but he also had Wall Street against him.

Of course “politicians who ever try to get out of line” are now, as then, but more effectively now, handled first by the media.
If the media can stop them or some other maneuver can stop them (character assassination, blackmail, distraction, removal from power) then violence isn’t required.

The fact that Kennedy resembled a coup target, not just a protector of other targets, would be bad news for someone like Senator Bernie Sanders if he ever got past the media, the “super delegates,” and the sell-out organizations to seriously threaten to take the White House. A candidate who accepts the war machine to a great extent and resembles Kennedy not at all on questions of peace, but who takes on Wall Street with the passion it deserves, could place himself as much in the cross-hairs of the deep state as a Jeremy Corbyn who takes on both capital and killing.

Accounts of the escapades of Allen Dulles, and the dozen or more partners in crime whose names crop up beside his decade after decade, illustrate the power of a permanent plutocracy, but also the power of particular individuals to shape it. What if Allen Dulles and Winston Churchill and others like them hadn’t worked to start the Cold War even before World War II was over? What if Dulles hadn’t collaborated with Nazis and the U.S. military hadn’t recruited and imported so many of them into its ranks? What if Dulles hadn’t worked to hide information about the holocaust while it was underway? What if Dulles hadn’t betrayed Roosevelt and Russia to make a separate U.S. peace with Germany in Italy? What if Dulles hadn’t begun sabotaging democracy in Europe immediately and empowering former Nazis in Germany? What if Dulles hadn’t turned the CIA into a secret lawless army and death squad? What if Dulles hadn’t worked to end Iran’s democracy, or Guatemala’s? What if Dulles’ CIA hadn’t developed torture, rendition, human experimentation, and murder as routine policies? What if Eisenhower had been permitted to talk with Khrushchev? What if Dulles hadn’t tried to overthrow the President of France? What if Dulles had been “checked” or “balanced” ever so slightly by the media or Congress or the courts along the way?

These are tougher questions than “What if there had been no Lee Harvey Oswald?” The answer to that is, “There would have been another guy very similar to serve the same purpose, just as there had been in the earlier attempt on JFK in Chicago. But “What if there had been no Allen Dulles?” looms large enough to suggest the possible answer that we would all be better off, less militarized, less secretive, less xenophobic. And that suggests that the deep state is not uniform and not unstoppable. Talbot’s powerful history is a contribution to the effort to stop it.

I hope Talbot speaks about his book in Virginia, after which he might stop saying that Williamsburg and the CIA’s “farm” are in “Northern Virginia.” Hasn’t Northern Virginia got enough to be ashamed of without that?

The original source of this article is David Swanson's Blog
.- See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2015/11/jfk-and-secret-rockefeller-government-double-book-review#sthash.nhWXQqMi.dpuf (http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2015/11/jfk-and-secret-rockefeller-government-double-book-review#sthash.nhWXQqMi.dpuf)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 26, 2015, 08:58:08 pm
VIDEO: Chris Hedges on the Militarization of Higher Education

Posted on Nov 25, 2015

In this episode of his new teleSUR show, “Days of Revolt,” Chris Hedges discusses the militarization of higher education institutions with journalist Alexa O’Brien. Uncovering the trail of money and influence from the national security state to college programs, Hedges and O’Brien identify the ways in which this apparatus has long ­been in effect, and what it could mean for the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ntMdeB98lZ0

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/video_chris_hedges_on_the_militarization_of_higher_education_20151125
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 27, 2015, 03:34:04 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ND9N33kEnUg

Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov Eyes Measures to Close Turkish-Syrian Border; Says Closure Will Curb Terrorists in Syria; Notes Hollande Told Obama Border Question Is Key to Stopping Flow of Militants and Jihadi Financing; Jarablus Corridor Now at Center of World Attention; This Issue Will Top Putin-Hollande Agenda in Moscow Thursday
http://tarpley.net/russian-foreign-minister-lavrov-eyes-measures-to-close-turkish-syrian-border/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 27, 2015, 07:09:10 pm
https://youtu.be/Byxh7TC8pMs
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Published on Nov 27, 2015

Footage released on Thursday shows police in the northern Italian city of Trieste seizing a shipment of nearly 800 shotguns en route from Turkey to Belgium.

Agelbert NOTE: If you think that the MONEY made by ISIS in Syria (fully IGNORED for over 15 months by the US "bombing effort" until the Russians, on behest of the Syrian government, started to put the kibosh on that operation with effective bombing) from illegally selling OIL to Turkey to finance terrorism in the Middle East (AND recently in FRANCE so the COP21 efforts to make countries transition to a renewable energy world are thwarted) PAID for these WINCHESTER shotguns, then you are thinking logically.

The fossil fuel government IN the USA that CREATED (see General Petraeus and Betrayus NEOCON friends) and FULLY BACKS ISIS, regardless of what they claim in public, will do ANYTHING to keep their profit over planet gravy train going.   >:(

  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-031014141830.png)

When the COP21 conference is over in Paris, for some "strange" reason, the "ISIS terrorist threat" there will "miraculously" disappear. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil12.gif)



Polluters Goebbels Style Conspiracy to Sabotage COP21

Let us connect the war profiteering dots, shall we?  This is not about fomenting a war or a price shock as is the usual criminal practice of the fossil fuel industry skullduggy activities for the last half century or so. This is about another bit of skullduggery in their bag of ethics free tricks: WAR SCARE propaganda.

WHAT, EXACTLY, is scheduled to happen next month in PARIS that threatens the bottom line of ALL the war profiteering bastards all over the planet?

COP21!

Can you think of a better way to DISTRACT the worldwide public from the climate change reforms that spell bankruptcy for the polluting "business models" that RELY on price shocks and wars to keep making billions of dollars in profits to buy or bop politicians with?

Can you think of a better way to frighten all the delegates from all over the world coming to Paris next month?

Can you think of a better way to keep the climate change issue OFF the front pages while the COP21 conference gets CASTRATED by the fossil fuel, mining, chemical, weapons manufacturing and pharmaceutical (etc.) industries?

THESE PEOPLE WILL DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO PRESERVE THEIR PROFITS!
IF IT'S BLOOD ON THE STREETS THAT IS CALLED FOR, THEY WILL DO IT! THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD FOR DOING IT!. FOLLOW THE GOD DAMNED MONEY! $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$ EVERY YEAR!!!
THIS IS ANOTHER CRIME BY THE POLLUTERS DOOMING FUTURE GENERATIONS!

The Fossil Fuelers   DID THE Climate Trashing, human health depleteing CRIME,  but since they have ALWAYS BEEN liars and conscience free crooks, they are trying to AVOID DOING THE TIME or PAYING THE FINE!   Don't let them get away with it! Pass it on!
Let us assume the false flag theory is true and this event was planned what would be the objective of such an event? (http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/climate-change/global-warming-is-with-us/msg4106/#msg4106)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 27, 2015, 07:41:01 pm
https://youtu.be/1wkoPlKKMQc

Putin exposes; The ERRONEOUS policies of the ruling elite in the US OLIGARCHY
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 02, 2015, 03:23:07 pm
Turkey Stages Coup Against Its Own Press and Generals in Bid to Arm Syrian Militants   >:( (Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nNxJyYCQu2Q

Posted on Dec 1, 2015

By Juan Cole
 
This post originally ran on Truthdig contributor Juan Cole’s website.


Turkey has  jailed two very prominent journalists for publishing video last May of a January, 2014, Turkish intelligence convoy of weapons to Syrian militants.  When I say prominent, I mean prominent.  They are Can Dundar, editor-in-chief of the Cumhuriyet newspaper, and Ankara bureau chief Erdem Gul.   Cumhuriyet (“Republic”) was founded in 1924 and is center-left in its orientation.  So this would be like the FBI carting off Dean Baquet of the New York Times for reporting on CIA shipments of T.O.W. missiles to Salafi rebels in Syria.  The journalists are charged with espionage and belonging (!) to a terrorist organization– charges fantastic on the face of it. (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)


Meanwhile, the Syrian army is  charging that Turkey has vastly increased arms shipments to rebels in Syria since last week’s shootdown of a Russian fighter jet, and is receiving smuggled gasoline and antiquities in payment.

The Turkish government  has now also arrested several senior generals who, acting on a tip, were the ones who in January 2014 ordered the search of trucks allegedly carrying arms to rebels in Syria– on which Cumhuriyet reported.  Huriryet writes: “Istanbul Deputy Chief Prosecutor ?rfan Fidan interrogated Ankara Gendarmerie Regional Commander Maj. Gen. ?brahim Ayd?n, Brig. Gen. Hamza Celepo?lu and Ret. Col. Burhanettin Cihangiro?lu on Nov. 28 and sent them to court appealing for their arrest on Nov. 29.”

Hurriyet  explains:
 
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“On Jan. 19, 2014, a convoy of trucks on their way to cross into Syira was stopped by gendarmerie forces upon suspicion that they were carrying military material to rebel groups fighting against the Bashar al-Assad regime. The incident turned into a big news story when the gendarmerie forces detained the intelligence officers and confiscated the trucks.

President Erdogan, who was prime minister at the time, reacted harshly over the case, accusing sympathizers of US-based Islamic scholar Fethullah Gulen in the judiciary and the security forces of undermining the government. He said the Gulen movement was responsible for the halting of the trucks, as well as the Dec. 17-25, 2013 corruption cases that he claimed had tried to bring down the government . . .  (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2009/347/2/6/WTF_Smiley_face_by_IveWasHere.jpg)


The government says the case of the halted trucks is evidence of the Gulenists’ “anti-national” behaviour, as it claims that the trucks were carrying assistance to Turkmens fighting in Syria against both al-Assad and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). When Dundar and Erdem published their story as fresh evidence in the case, despite courts ruling to restrict media coverage of the incident upon the government’s request, they made President Erdogan furious. Prosecutors soon opened cases against them.”

So this case has to do with the 2013-2014 campaign of the secretive religious-Right Gulen faction within the Turkish government to bring then-PM Tayyip Erdogan (now president) into disrepute.  Gulenists had made damning recordings and collected documents when they were still partners with Erdogan and a constituent group inside the Justice and Development Party (AKP).  Erdogan weathered the charges against him in the eyes of the public, and his party just won enough seats to rule without seeking a coalition with any other party.

That Turkey and the Gulf oil states have been supporting hard line fundamentalist Salafi groups in Syria such as the Army of Conquest (an al-Qaeda-led coalition) is an open secret.  That Daesh (ISIL, ISIS) has been smuggling gasoline and kerosene from the refineries it captured, in part to Turkey, is another open secret.

So why is the AKP government waging a war on the press and its own generals to cover up this activity? 

My guess is that Erdogan is having prosecutors send a signal to journalists and military men that acting on or revealing further Gulenist leaks will not be permitted.  Perhaps he fears that the Gulen movement has more dirt on him than it has already brought out and just wants to forestall its becoming public.  He may also be attempting to put all activities of the MiT (the Turkish CIA) out of bounds for the press and the Turkish military.

But the focus on that January, 2014, military shipment is also suspicious.  Erdogan claimed that it was humanitarian aid going to the Syrian Turkmen in the north of Syria.  But the inspection of the gendarmerie and the video released by Cumhuriyet demonstrate that the trucks were carrying weaponry.  Cumhuriyet reported that the cargo comprised a thousand mortar shells, 50,000 bullets for machine guns and 30,000 heavy artillery shells. —  Is the problem that it wasn’t going to Turkmen at all but to some group so radical that Erdogan would be embarrassed if it were known he was supplying it?

While Turkey is roiled by a war on journalists (the editor-in-chief of the conservative Muslim newspaper Zaman, which allegedly has ties to the Gulen movement, has just also been arrested, for insulting Erdogan), the arms flowing through the country are allowing the Salafi fighters to withstand the Russia air campaign south and east of Aleppo.

In a headache for President Obama, his Syrian Democratic Forces (a coalition of Kurdish, Sunni Arab and Christian militias)  have been kicked out of some villages south of Aleppo by another set of American clients, the Falcons of the Mountain (Suqur al-Jabal), who are hard line religionists and hate the Kurds as secular leftists allied with christians.  Al-Qaeda in Syria is also taking territory in the Aleppo area, opportunistically benefiting from Russian and regime attacks on Daesh there.

Turkey supports the Turkmen and the Army of Conquest despite the membership of al-Qaeda in the latter, against the Kurdish YPG. Russia is said to be helping the Kurds.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/turkeys_coup_against_the_press_its_own_generals_over_arms_syria_20151201
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 07, 2016, 08:33:09 pm
Just what we need (NOT!), a new billion dollar Destroyer... :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KAWbwttAoI&feature=player_embedded
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Video from Maine Imaging Photography showing the U.S. Navy’s Zumwalt (DDG-1000) entering Portland Harbor following sea trials in December. The Zumwalt is the first of three planned Zumwalt-class stealth destroyers being built for the Navy by General Dynamics Bath Iron Works in Maine.

Maine Imaging notes that it obtained permission to fly in such close proximity to the ship, which “was an honor”.  ::)

https://gcaptain.com/2016/01/06/watch-u-s-navys-new-zumwalt-destroyer-entering-portland-harbor/

(http://49.media.tumblr.com/437a42c917e1d5e7f858358f456be2c0/tumblr_n6edsvWOu21r55d2io1_500.gif)



Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 11, 2016, 11:21:25 pm
M.I.C./Wall Street "LOGIC": The economy is in the tank and the people want a populist president!  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared002.gif) The Russians are wining in Syria.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared004.gif) The Iranians gave their nuke stuff to the Russians so we can't scare loyal patriotic Americans into forcing us  ;D to bomb them by branding Iranians as Terrorist Atomic Ayatollas. Argh! (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/www_MyEmoticons_com__smokelots.gif)  And those sneaky Iranians are starting to get visited by container ships! This is a catastrophe! Our military budget and our Wall Street Fascist Friends are BOTH in BIG trouble! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared005.gif) .....
I guess it's time for the old "Remember the Maine/Gulf of Tonkin" Trick. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)  ;)  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil12.gif)


U.S. Navy (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg) Says Video Shows Iranian Navy Firing Rockets Near Warships in Strait of Hormuz
SNIPPET:

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January 10, 2016 by Reuters

By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON, Jan 9 (Reuters) – The U.S. Navy released black-and-white video on Saturday it said was taken by an American helicopter showing an Iranian Revolutionary Guards vessel firing unguided rockets on Dec. 26 near warships including the aircraft carrier USS Harry S Truman in the Strait of Hormuz.

(http://pm1.narvii.com/5869/6a64193d6770c3afd17406c78686c0eda32ded1c_hq.jpg)

Iran on Dec. 31 denied that its Revolutionary Guards vessels had launched the rockets as the United States claimed, with a Revolutionary Guards spokesman saying the “false” accusation was “akin to psychological warfare.” (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)

https://gcaptain.com/2016/01/10/u-s-navy-video-shows-iran-navy-fire-rockets-near-warships-in-strait-of-hormuz/

Agelbert  Note;
Don't you just love how quotation marks are so cleverly used? Those propagandists know their properganda!  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp) Just take the first paragraph and add a few quotation marks in places like, uh, e.g. --- "near" warship"s" "in the Strait of Hormuz", etc.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-280515145049.png) (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)

Works every time! SUCKERS!   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif)(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mocantina.gif)
 
(https://desultoryheroics.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/6a01053596fb28970c01348365f7e1970c-450wi.jpg)



Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 12, 2016, 02:08:36 pm
M.I.C./Wall Street "LOGIC": The economy is in the tank and the people want a populist president!  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared002.gif) The Russians are wining in Syria.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared004.gif) The Iranians gave their nuke stuff to the Russians so we can't scare loyal patriotic Americans into forcing us  ;D to bomb them by branding Iranians as Terrorist Atomic Ayatollas. Argh! (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/www_MyEmoticons_com__smokelots.gif)  And those sneaky Iranians are starting to get visited by container ships! This is a catastrophe! Our military budget and our Wall Street Fascist Friends are BOTH in BIG trouble! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared005.gif) .....
I guess it's time for the old "Remember the Maine/Gulf of Tonkin" Trick. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)  ;)  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil12.gif)


U.S. Navy (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg) Says Video Shows Iranian Navy Firing Rockets Near Warships in Strait of Hormuz
SNIPPET:

https://gcaptain.com/2016/01/10/u-s-navy-video-shows-iran-navy-fire-rockets-near-warships-in-strait-of-hormuz/

Agelbert  Note;
Don't you just love how quotation marks are so cleverly used? Those propagandists know their properganda!  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp) Just take the first paragraph and add a few quotation marks in places like, uh, e.g. --- "near" warship"s" "in the Strait of Hormuz", etc.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-280515145049.png) (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)

Works every time! SUCKERS!   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif)(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mocantina.gif)
 
(https://desultoryheroics.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/6a01053596fb28970c01348365f7e1970c-450wi.jpg)





The video never shows the aircraft carrier, and it cannot get the frigate and the tanker and the Iranian vessels in the same frame, even when at 11,000 yards range.  The rockets are clearly not being fired AT the tanker or anything else.  At worst they are fired parallel to the tanker's track and in the opposite direction, if anything, away from the tanker.  "only 23 minutes of advance notification of its intention to fire rockets" means they WERE given notice, and could have been at least 7 nautical miles further away, if they were the least bit worried.

The aircraft carrier and the frigate were gate-crashing the Iranians' test, to get a better look, and to complain about it afterwards.

All shipping in the shipping lanes have to pass through Iranian territorial waters, and have to ask permission to do so. 
US @ 0600: Iranian Shipping Transit Authority, this is USS Truman and party requesting permission to transit." 
ISTA @ 0600: There will be a sea-to-sea missile firing test from 0620 to 0630 at 26.355°N 54.991°W into the NE quadrant.  Please proceed with caution." 
US: "Thank you, understood. Out."

Hardly news, is it? - not compared to the world-shatteringly tragic news of the death of David Bowie, pop and fashion icon of the 20th century anyway.  Not to mention flying a "nuclear-capable" B-52 over South Korea 4 days after the nuclear test, just to show the North Koreans "We mean business."


Of course it is cheap propaganda. But most Americans will swallow it if repeated enough. Don't you remember the Bin Laden videos (that turned out to be fake)? They got over a trillion dollars of war profiteering out of THAT!  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif) (http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Spiele/smilie_game_017.gif) (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2z6in9g.gif)


(http://liberalslikechrist.org/+Artwork/Military_liberalism/goering-quote.jpg)
(http://pm1.narvii.com/5869/6a64193d6770c3afd17406c78686c0eda32ded1c_hq.jpg)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 13, 2016, 03:08:31 pm
Look out below!

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-280914153654.gif)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-130116150046.png)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 16, 2016, 12:01:44 am
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Can it finally be said that George W. Bush didn't lie about WMD's in Iraq?

Mike Bowerbank


Ross Cohen, B.A. in History & Political Science


There was a joke going around during the WMD debate that went something like this:
"How do the Americans know Saddam has chemical weapons?"
"They still have the sales receipts."
 
I hear apologists on the right say things like "Saddam was known to have chemical weapons, and chemical weapons are WMD, so Bush didn't lie" and it's a terrible, terrible distortion of the truth.
 
First of all, chemical weapons were not the WMD that were being discussed. We were told that Saddam was developing NUCLEAR weapons specifically. There was even that bogus "intelligence" that showed Saddam was acquiring yellow cake uranium from Niger. There is no real use for yellow cake except for nuclear weapons, so this was pretty damning stuff... except that it wasn't true.
 
Joe Wilson called BS on the yellow cake story, and the Bush White House sought revenge. Scooter Libby (widely believed upon the direct order of Dick Cheney) outed Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA spy. (To this day I don't understand how that is not treason.) Cheney said Plame was "fair game".
 
So the whole "Saddam had chemical weapons, so the WMD wasn't a lie" is an unintelligent, disingenuous, and downright insulting attempt to justify the war that led to hundreds of thousands of deaths, trillions  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif) in wasted money, and the current fustercluck we see in Iraq and Syria today.  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2z6in9g.gif)
https://www.quora.com/Can-it-finally-be-said-that-George-W-Bush-didnt-lie-about-WMDs-in-Iraq

Agelbert NOTE: Yep. But it was also an excellent example of how Game Theory is employed by the IRRESPONSIBLE, LAZY, WELFARE QUEEN M.I.C. in the USA to make money off of we-the-people...

The problem with that method of "making money" is that you eventually run out of OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

(http://cdn02.yarn.com/resources/Yarn/images/products/processed/DEFARGEKNIT.zoom.1.jpg)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 15, 2016, 04:12:36 pm
Week Eighteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria: A Dramatic Escalation Appears Imminent (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/week-eighteen-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-a-dramatic-escalation-appears-imminent/)

   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png) Excellent article. The Saker knows his stuff.

My only observation is that Russia is in a better position than the "coalition" to maintain air superiority. Unless somebody in the US oligarchy wants a shooting war with Russia based on lots of dead coalition troops, they will muzzle Turkey. Erdogan is in a precarious position in his country and he knows it. Sure, it would be just like him to try to invade in order to prevent his ouster due to the continued exposure of his massive corruption. But if that is green lighted by our knuckle draggers in the MIC, Erdogan is the designated fall guy because his troops will have their asses handed to them. I'm sure he has a few generals under him that may decide discretion is the better part of valor and act to depose Erdogan on some exposed corruption. Erdogan has so many skeletons in his closet that he could corner the calcium market in turkey!

Here's what Saker is missing. The MAIN reason all this S H I T goes on down there is because of a resource of polluting energy called oil. Russia has lots of oil and gas and Saker sees them the way the Russian government sees them (allegedly valuable energy sources).

Saker, therefore, does NOT see the connection between cratering fossil fuel prices worldwide and the coming peace in that region. I do.

It ain't about religion, no matter what we have been told. It never was. It's about "national interests".  "National interests" in the coalition are ALL ABOUT VALUABLE energy or mineral sources, PERIOD.

When something (that the MIC has been coveting and fighting over since Standard Oil took over most of this country's foreign policy predatory piggery) is no longer very valuable, the wind goes out of the sails of the Wall Street Greed MACHINE behind EVERY military action since WWII. Yes the doffense contractors will lose some money, but they were never in the driver's seat of our foreign policy, despite their war profiteering MO in every war this country has been involved with. The fossil fuel industry has DOMINATED US foreign policy for well over a century. And the fossil fuel industry is STRONG in Russia. So, they are as much stuck in their "real world" as the coalition is.

The bottom line is that people fight over valuable stuff. There is no money in fighting over oil producing regions anymore. This is BASIC game theory. Our MIC bases ALL its plans and actions on game theory, unlike Russia. The MONEY is now, because of the high tech snooping of everybody and his mother now available, in nickel and diming we-the-sheeple 24/7. It's mostly invisible and it keeps the oligarchs in place. The MIC is happy as long s they can "justify" the giant logistics swag they now enjoy required to operate all their bases. The MIC will, of course, continue to occasionally terrorize and butcher a few humans here and there to make sure congress doesn't forget the, uh, "national security" justification for the humongous budget we-the-suckers must provide for these Welfare Queens with very big teeth. The MIC is just as happy not having to lose any people in wars if the swag keeps coming in. And the weapons makers too because the military practices a LOT blowing stuff up and shooting bullets. Their Wall Street backed "business model" works great as long as we-the=suckers in the USA swallow their "national security" propaganda. I'm sure Lockheed Martin is grateful to all of us for helping fund their solar panel infrastructure improvements that will provide Renewable energy based electrical power for their weapons making factories.  ::)

I predict peace in Syria punctuated by occasional incursions from Israeli jets to keep the money flowing from our gooberment to our pet "democracy" (Israeli Oligarchy). Our favorite mediaeval Sheikdom of butchers and perverts (the Saudis) will join in on the fun with token incursions to keep our money flowing to them too. After all, they have been loyal servants of Big Oil for many years. We must do all we can to bolster their efforts to pump oil out of the ground with solar panel generated electricity. We wouldn't want them to lose money, now would we?  ;)      (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 15, 2016, 06:39:53 pm
This is what I think about all the alleged "complexities" in human politics and ISMs of all stripes:

Aggressive, dominating humans are either greedy bastards or they are intelligent and far seeing enough to be socially responsible. All the political labels and nuances are either cheap rationalizations for tyranny or a pretense of the obvious required egalitarian harmony among all members of a species (AND the surrounding biosphere) necessary for the perpetuation of a species.

The rest is B U L L S H I T.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 14, 2016, 05:13:44 pm
In yet another surprise move, Putin announces the withdrawal of Russian forces from Syria.  The straightforward interpretation of this decision is, as he says, that the ceasefire is holding well enough for the political peace process to begin.  But Putin is anything but straightforward, and the ceasefire is shaky at best, and the peace conference is far from likely to achieve any outcome.

It puts pressure on Assad and the "moderate rebels" to be more accommodating at the talks, otherwise fighting is sure to resume.  Indirectly it puts pressure on the US too, but their influence over the moderate rebels is not as strong as they would like to make out.  And it does seem to take pressure off the US-supported "non-moderate rebels" or ISIS and Al Nusra and their backers, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

Perhaps this is about dumping the whole mess back in Obama's lap, as any fighting now is going to be all down to the US and its "allies", who are in total disagreement over what to do next.

https://www.rt.com/news/335554-putin-orders-syria-withdrawal/ (https://www.rt.com/news/335554-putin-orders-syria-withdrawal/)
Putin orders start of Russian military withdrawal from Syria, says ‘objectives achieved’
14 Mar, 2016

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu to start the withdrawal of forces from Syria starting Tuesday. Russia will however keep a military presence at the port of Tartus and at the Khmeimim airbase to observe ceasefire agreements.

“I consider the objectives that have been set for the Defense Ministry to be generally accomplished. That is why I order to start withdrawal of the main part of our military group from the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic starting from tomorrow,” Putin said on Monday during a meeting with Shoigu and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

"In a short period of time Russia has created a small but very effective military group [in Syria]... the effective work of our military allowed the peace process to begin," Putin said, adding that with the assistance of the Russian Air Force "Syrian government troops and patriotic forces have changed the situation in the fight with international terrorism and have ceased the initiative."

To control the observation of ceasefire agreements in the region, Moscow will keep its Khmeimim airbase in Latakia province and a base at the port of Tartus, Putin said.

At Moscow's initiative, a phone conversation between Vladimir Putin and Syria's President Bashar Assad was held on Monday evening, the Kremlin reported.

The two leaders agreed that the actions of Russia's Air Force in Syria have allowed them to "profoundly reverse the situation" in connection to fighting terrorists in the region, having "disorganized militants' infrastructure and inflicted fundamental damage upon them."

Bashar Assad has recognized the “professionalism, courage and heroism” of Russian Army soldiers and officers, who have taken part in the military action, thanking Russia not only for extensive help in the fight against terrorism, but also for providing humanitarian aid and assistance to the Syrian civilian population.

The Syrian leader also stressed its readiness to engage in the political process in Syria as soon as possible, the Kremlin said.

Russia's president also addressed his foreign minister. He had tasked Lavrov with intensifying Russia's participation in the peace process to solve the Syrian crisis, the Kremlin reported.

Moscow launched its anti-terror campaign in Syria on September 30 last year. Russia’s participation in the operation, according to a previous statement by Putin, has its basis in international law and has been conducted “in accordance with an official request from the president of the Syrian Arab Republic [Bashar Assad].”

The Russian Air Force has been carrying out airstrikes against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and other terrorist targets in the region, eliminating military equipment, communication centers, vehicles, arms and fuel depots.


It's not a surprise to me. It's also not a surprise to me that Erdogan just had the war come home to Turkey. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/ankara-bombing-one/2600226.html?cx_tag=trendingworld&cid=tg:recos:trendingworld:standard#cxrecs_s (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/ankara-bombing-one/2600226.html?cx_tag=trendingworld&cid=tg:recos:trendingworld:standard#cxrecs_s)

Russia might or might not be behind this terrorist attack. I tend to think, like I told Surly a while ago when you and other people wrongly thought that WWIII was going to be triggered in Syria, that the generals in Turkey have simply sent the message to their jackals that it is time to "undermine" the confidence in Erdogan, for Turkey's own good and to return the country to sanity. Please note the date on the following post. I anticipated correctly what has transpired, whether you want to accept that, or not.  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/290.gif)  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/245.gif)


Week Eighteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria: A Dramatic Escalation Appears Imminent (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/week-eighteen-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-a-dramatic-escalation-appears-imminent/)

   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png) Excellent article. The Saker knows his stuff.

My only observation is that Russia is in a better position than the "coalition" to maintain air superiority. Unless somebody in the US oligarchy wants a shooting war with Russia based on lots of dead coalition troops, they will muzzle Turkey. Erdogan is in a precarious position in his country and he knows it. Sure, it would be just like him to try to invade in order to prevent his ouster due to the continued exposure of his massive corruption. But if that is green lighted by our knuckle draggers in the MIC, Erdogan is the designated fall guy because his troops will have their asses handed to them. I'm sure he has a few generals under him that may decide discretion is the better part of valor and act to depose Erdogan on some exposed corruption. Erdogan has so many skeletons in his closet that he could corner the calcium market in turkey!

Here's what Saker is missing. The MAIN reason all this S H I T goes on down there is because of a resource of polluting energy called oil. Russia has lots of oil and gas and Saker sees them the way the Russian government sees them (allegedly valuable energy sources).

Saker, therefore, does NOT see the connection between cratering fossil fuel prices worldwide and the coming peace in that region. I do.

It ain't about religion, no matter what we have been told. It never was. It's about "national interests".  "National interests" in the coalition are ALL ABOUT VALUABLE energy or mineral sources, PERIOD.

When something (that the MIC has been coveting and fighting over since Standard Oil took over most of this country's foreign policy predatory piggery) is no longer very valuable, the wind goes out of the sails of the Wall Street Greed MACHINE behind EVERY military action since WWII. Yes the doffense contractors will lose some money, but they were never in the driver's seat of our foreign policy, despite their war profiteering MO in every war this country has been involved with. The fossil fuel industry has DOMINATED US foreign policy for well over a century. And the fossil fuel industry is STRONG in Russia. So, they are as much stuck in their "real world" as the coalition is.

The bottom line is that people fight over valuable stuff. There is no money in fighting over oil producing regions anymore. This is BASIC game theory. Our MIC bases ALL its plans and actions on game theory, unlike Russia. The MONEY is now, because of the high tech snooping of everybody and his mother now available, in nickel and diming we-the-sheeple 24/7. It's mostly invisible and it keeps the oligarchs in place. The MIC is happy as long s they can "justify" the giant logistics swag they now enjoy required to operate all their bases. The MIC will, of course, continue to occasionally terrorize and butcher a few humans here and there to make sure congress doesn't forget the, uh, "national security" justification for the humongous budget we-the-suckers must provide for these Welfare Queens with very big teeth. The MIC is just as happy not having to lose any people in wars if the swag keeps coming in. And the weapons makers too because the military practices a LOT blowing stuff up and shooting bullets. Their Wall Street backed "business model" works great as long as we-the=suckers in the USA swallow their "national security" propaganda. I'm sure Lockheed Martin is grateful to all of us for helping fund their solar panel infrastructure improvements that will provide Renewable energy based electrical power for their weapons making factories.  ::)

I predict peace in Syria punctuated by occasional incursions from Israeli jets to keep the money flowing from our gooberment to our pet "democracy" (Israeli Oligarchy). Our favorite mediaeval Sheikdom of butchers and perverts (the Saudis) will join in on the fun with token incursions to keep our money flowing to them too. After all, they have been loyal servants of Big Oil for many years. We must do all we can to bolster their efforts to pump oil out of the ground with solar panel generated electricity. We wouldn't want them to lose money, now would we?  ;)      (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)


As they used to say in my Russian Language classes at West Point, Klass Konchen (класс распущен).
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 18, 2016, 09:55:04 pm
Hope Returns (http://dl9.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1529/1529939gg8yeanop9.gif)

March 17, 2016
© UNHCR/A. McConnell

SNIPPET:


Scattered debris and concrete bones of buildings blanket the neighborhood of Baba Amr in Homs, Syria. These are cruel reminders of the conflict that drove some 80,000 Syrians from their homes over five years ago.  :(

Now that calm has settled in again, Syrians like Sabah are the first to return home to repair their roots and dust off the town they left behind to the fate of war.

Sabah remembers vividly the day her home was struck. “When the house was shelled, we felt a huge explosion. We ran out of the house. We looked up and saw that a floor had collapsed.”

It takes years to build a home, but only seconds to destroy it. Rebuilding will be difficult and costly, but Sabah is determined to restore what was lost.

Her home in Baba Amr was more than a place to live, it was a sanctuary of good memories before war and violence became part of her everyday life. “I didn’t want to leave it and lose all these memories,” she said.

https://youtu.be/FL8YzPh2Eo8

Now Sabah has transformed her war-torn home into a place of refuge. She rents two out of three floors of her home to those displaced by conflict.  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gif)

(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/reading.gif)
http://www.unrefugees.org/2016/03/sabah-is-determined-to-rebuild-her-home/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 20, 2016, 06:07:49 pm
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MKing: Don't say you weren't warned when you lift the lid on the crazy box.

I know.   ;)
I am completely open to being persuaded that the conspiracies are true, but it has to be based on evidence, not joining the dots.
I am completely up to speed on this, and have no doubt I will NOT be given evidence.
Abuse, certainly, especially from AG.

I could always spend my time on some other blog - moonofalabama has far fewer crazies on it.

I'm so sorry you feel so abused by the Law of Gravity and its "stubborn" applicability to the physics involved in the demolition of WTC 7. The last time I checked, New York City is on the surface of the Earth and WTC 7 was there too. The force of gravity there is 32 feet per second squared for ANY object, or part of one, in free fall. I was taught that "free fall" acceleration cannot be achieved when something is in the way of that free fall. When any part of a building being demolished is in the way because it ain't broke yet, you CANNOT achieve free fall.

And, in order to break all that stuff in the way OUT OF THE WAY in order to achieve FREE FALL, you need a very precise demolition sequence on EVERY support column, not just one or a few, that supports the building NEAR THE BASE OF THE BUILDING (where, in WTC 7' s case, there WERE NO FIRES). It takes at least two weeks ( rush job) to rig that demolition sequence. 

I guess you have other special knowledge about how to get around the laws of physics that you would like to enlighten us with.  ;)

As for MKing, it is expected that he would label "crazy" anyone that understands and can accurately measure what an acceleration of 32 feet per second squared is. That is what propagandists devoid of any ethical constraints whatsoever do to defend the propaganda lies they are paid to push.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)

But if you pair of propagandists want to push this BULLSHIT effectively, I suggest you switch from fallacious debating techniques like appeals to authority or arrogant puffery to some really clever mendacity like, for example    (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp),  claiming the following video below has been "doctored" to make it look like the building fell at free fall speeds. You really ought to do that because, as long as you agree that the following video was not "doctored", you expose, for all to see, your serial mendacity. 

Who are ya gonna believe, Palloy and MKing, or yer own lyin' eyes?
https://youtu.be/hycank4AxBo
  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-100216204839.gif)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 20, 2016, 06:27:03 pm
I think the simplest explanation is a little of both... they knew an attack was coming, didn't know when, didn't know where, had some idea it involved hijacking planes... so when the first plane crashed into a building, haha, that was some mighty bad piloting, continue reading to the kids... but when the second plane crashed, oh crap, this was a coordinated attack, run for your life!

So what brought down Building 7?
A small group of demolitions experts, of course... like I said, a little of both: vast government incompetence, small secret conspiracy.  There were plenty of investigations going on in Building 7 that powerful people were happy to have terminated.

No kidding.
Large numbers of case files for ongoing investigations by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) were reportedly destroyed in the collapse. The Los Angeles Times reported that "substantial files were destroyed" for 3000 to 4000 of the SEC's cases. The EEOC reported that documents for 45 active cases were destroyed. 3   Before the attack, SEC investigations of corporate fraud by companies such as Enron and Worldcom were the subject of many news reports -- reports that virtually vanished in the wake of the attack.

http://911review.com/attack/wtc/b7.html (http://911review.com/attack/wtc/b7.html)

Also...

Why destroy such a valuable piece of real estate?

We know that WTC7's developer and lease-holder, Silverstein Properties, and WTC7's mortgage-holders, the Blackstone Group, Banc of America Securities, and General Motors Acceptance Corporation, received a Court-awarded amount of $861 million dollars from Industrial Risk Insurers in February 2002. We know that about $386 million had been invested in WTC7 before its destruction. The Court-award meant that Silverstein Properties and the mortgage-holders would share in about $475 million of profit. [8]

Silverstein Properties is headed by Larry Silverstein, a large contributor to Democrat and Republican office-holders. Silverstein Properties became the primary owner of the WTC Twin Towers less than two months before 9/11/01 (Westfield Malls was Silverstein Properties' minority-partner). Buying from the New York Port Authority, Silverstein Properties invested only $15 million toward a total purchase-price of $3.2 billion for a 99-year lease on holdings worth an estimated $8 billion. The low-rise office buildings WTC 4, 5, and 6, and 400,000 square feet of retail space were included with the Twin Towers in this deal. Silverstein Properties immediately took out extensive insurance policies on its new holdings.

One clause in Silverstein Properties' insurance policies for the new WTC holdings soon proved instrumental. Quoting the British Financial Times of September 14, 2001, the American Reporter wrote that ‘ the lease has an all-important escape clause: If the buildings are struck by “an act of terrorism”, the new owners' obligations under the lease are void. As a result, the new owners are not required to make any payments under their lease, but they will be able to collect on the loss of the buildings that collapsed or were otherwise destroyed and damaged in the attacks. ’


Again, a remarkable coincidence.

And speaking of coincidences, on September 10, 2001, SecrDef Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2 trillion in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. According to a report by the Inspector General, the Pentagon could not account for 25 percent of what it spent. Such a disclosure normally might have sparked a huge scandal. However, events of the following day assured  the story disappeared down the memory hole.
Plus accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts looking into the missing funds were killed in the Pentagon attack.

Another coincidence.

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 20, 2016, 10:04:21 pm
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MKing : Don't say you weren't warned when you lift the lid on the crazy box.

I know.   ;)
I am completely open to being persuaded that the conspiracies are true, but it has to be based on evidence, not joining the dots.
I am completely up to speed on this, and have no doubt I will NOT be given evidence.
Abuse, certainly, especially from AG.

I could always spend my time on some other blog - moonofalabama has far fewer crazies on it.

I'm so sorry you feel so abused by the Law of Gravity and its "stubborn" applicability to the physics involved in the demolition of WTC 7. The last time I checked, New York City is on the surface of the Earth and WTC 7 was there too. The force of gravity there is 32 feet per second squared for ANY object, or part of one, in free fall. I was taught that "free fall" acceleration cannot be achieved when something is in the way of that free fall. When any part of a building being demolished is in the way because it ain't broke yet, you CANNOT achieve free fall.

And, in order to break all that stuff in the way OUT OF THE WAY in order to achieve FREE FALL, you need a very precise demolition sequence on EVERY support column, not just one or a few, that supports the building NEAR THE BASE OF THE BUILDING (where, in WTC 7' s case, there WERE NO FIRES). It takes at least two weeks ( rush job) to rig that demolition sequence. 

I guess you have other special knowledge about how to get around the laws of physics that you would like to enlighten us with.  ;)

As for MKing, it is expected that he would label "crazy" anyone that understands and can accurately measure what an acceleration of 32 feet per second squared is. That is what propagandists devoid of any ethical constraints whatsoever do to defend the propaganda lies they are paid to push.     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)


But if you pair of propagandists want to push this bullshit effectively, I suggest you switch from fallacious debating techniques like appeals to authority or arrogant puffery to some really clever mendacity like, for example     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp),  claiming the following video below has been "doctored" to make it look like the building fell at free fall speeds. You really ought to do that because, as long as you agree that the following video was not "doctored", you expose, for all to see, your serial mendacity. 

Who are ya gonna believe, Palloy and MKing, or yer own lyin' eyes?

https://youtu.be/hycank4AxBo

  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-100216204839.gif)

Funnily enough, I AGREE that the acceleration cased by the force of gravity is 32 feet/second/second.  What is expecting was some kind of accurate timing of the fall to show that it actually DID fall with that acceleration.  Probably the videos run at 25 frames per second (whatever it is, it will be known by the TV station), and then YouTube may modify that, quite possibly cutting that in half.  Nevertheless that's as accurate a clock as we are going to get.

Then we know the height of the building, and each floor (corrected for the angle of view).  So we should be able to measure off the distance travelled (downwards) and time (in frames) and show whether it does or doesn't obey s = (1/2)*g*t2 .  I'm asking you to give me a link to where that has been done sufficiently well for me to check it.

Does it look to you like it falls at a constant speed?  It does to me.  But that's NOT what gravity does - it makes things fall faster and faster.

It may surprise you to know that I have been through this in detail before, and know more about it than a TV news reporter.

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ACCELERATION at 32 feet per second squared was DOCUMENTED in WTC 7

That's something we can discuss.  Would you like to start, with the documentation?

I don't believe you, Palloy.
I believe you will read the following HARD EVIDENCE of 32 feet per second free fall acceleration and immediately question the link, instead of addressing the EVIDENCE. K-Dog has your number. So do I.

If we are wrong, prove it by admitting that the WTC 7 evidence of a preplanned demolition is irrefutable. I know MKing will never admit the truth. Perhaps you will.  (http://www.emofaces.com/png/200/emoticons/fingerscrossed.png)


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World Trade Center Building #7
A QUESTION OF PHYSICS

THE FACTS:

At 5:21 PM on September 11, 2001, World Trade Center Building 7 collapsed to the ground in approximately 6.5 seconds. This 47‐story building fell rapidly into a compact pile.

With several video cameras focused on Building 7, at the time of the onset of its collapse, the descent of the building is well documented.

This symmetrical and rapid descent of the entire upper portion of WTC 7 through the path of greatest resistance, poses a very significant physics question.


The entire upper portion of the building, for a period of 2.24 seconds, covering the vertical descent of 100 feet or 8 stories, accelerated in its descent at the rate known as “free fall”. The National Institute of Standards and Technology confirmed this in their final report on the collapse of WTC Building 7.



OUR UNDERSTANDING:

As we understand the laws of physics, this rate of free fall acceleration is only
possible in the absence of any significant resistance to the descent.

The rate of the building’s downward acceleration is, to us, proof of the simultaneous removal of the internal structures that would have offered resistance to the collapse of WTC Building 7.


http://www1.ae911truth.org/home/344-building-7-implosion-the-smoking-gun-of-911.html (http://www1.ae911truth.org/home/344-building-7-implosion-the-smoking-gun-of-911.html)

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/be/bead363502f8e7564038c7072c490cfc0da55bf30c42bb1f04983157e9ae7125.jpg)



That clearly says that 8 stories fell at free-fall speed, although the tiny jpg image:

(http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/infoitems/WTC7_n1.jpg)

shows that it was anything but that.  The chart has time in seconds across the bottom, and velocity (measured with upwards as positive and downwards as negative) on the left.

You can clearly see that only the section between 0.7 and 3.2 seconds has constant acceleration. It is much more difficult to make out (why such a tiny image?, and why jpg ? - the worst format to display charts) but I think you can see that in fact the fall is in a series of steps.  For short periods of time there is NO acceleration - this would be the time in which the steel is crumpling. 

Now when the acceleration stops and restarts, it is not the same as being under free-fall conditions (continuous acceleration).  The difference is small at first, but much more noticeable as the falling velocity picks up.

And what of the periods [0 - 0.7] and [3.2 - 6.5] seconds?  They didn't fit the free-fall pattern at all.

If you can find a better image of this chart, please show it, as it will prove my point better.

So "WTC-7 fell at free-fall speeds" is FALSE.

And I should add, to save time, that you don't need to reach the temperature of melting steel for steel to lose its strength - there numerous videos that prove this.

Next.
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-220216203149.gif)

So, you wish to deny the NIST report with your own private hairsplitting interpretation of ONE GRAPH?

And Palloy, did you just say CONSTANT ACCELERATION? YES YOU DID!  ;D

THAT is what GRAVITY gives you at 32 feet per second squared, not CONSTANT SPEED. Your double talk about "continuous" not being "constant" is hair splitting of the most pathetic. CONSTANT ACCELERATION will give you a higher velocity at each point in a downward plot.

You KNOW that the PLOT for a 32 ft/second squared acceleration is EASILY predicted. WTC 7 FITS that plot almost EXACTLY.

If some debris prevented a perfect plot, that certainly does NOT give you the excuse to claim ONE deformed girder could justify the PLOTTED building collapse. But you gave it the old college try with your "continuous" versus "Constant" bit of baloney.    (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)

NOBODY, not the NIST, nor anyone else, has come up with the fool assumption that the building DID NOT ACCELERATE throughout its descent EXCEPT YOU. It DID. The PLOT proves it.

The ONLY STRAW you have left to cling to is to assert that the ACCELERATION (which is NOT in question by the authorities) was LESS than 32 ft/second squared. YOU have not DARED give a lower value because you know you will be laughed off the stage.  ;D

If, however, you are privy to some OTHER VALUE FOR CONSTANT ACCELERATION that NIST is unaware of to enlighten us with, by all means do so.  ;)

You obviously do not want to face the truth
. So, please continue your laughably pathetic efforts at 9/11 "The Evil  Ayrabs did it" propaganda. The more you post, the clearer it becomes that YOU, like MKing, are totally bereft of objectivity.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)

You have wasted enough of my time today. Nevertheless, I'm sure you will try to bob and weave your way around the next two videos. WHATEVAH, Mr. Failed Propagandist.

Dots? What "dots"?  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191404.bmp) Try Parade of  ELEPHANTS!  :o  


9/11 Video Clips Dan Rather Would Rather Not Show You     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)
What a COINCIDENCE that the words "NEW PEARL HARBOR" (see: 1998 neocon document     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp) )are mentioned as a QUOTE from a government official...
(http://pm1.narvii.com/5869/6a64193d6770c3afd17406c78686c0eda32ded1c_hq.jpg)

NOTE: Must be watched at U-Tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_0eC3uns3pA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_0eC3uns3pA)


Your Tax Dollars at Work on the Pentagon Lawn on 9/11 
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil12.gif)

https://youtu.be/TG3SlyABrBk
Obviously they must have been looking, not for missile fragments  ;), but for the Al Queda passports (those dad gum passports have an amazing ability to survive explosions and steel melting fires      (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)).


(http://forum.ih8mud.com/attachments/h6a3a1d8f-jpeg.1060027/)


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 21, 2016, 04:59:00 pm
Much talk about the free fall of building seven but there is something even more obvious than that.  The equipment shed on top of the elivator shafts which must have been in the center of the building falls into the roof  a fraction of a second before the roof in it's entirety starts to free fall.  This is clear  proof that demolition brought the building down.   That shed was on top of the strongest part of the building on an elivator shaft made of concrete which would have been the first structural component blown to insure the building fell in on itself.

 (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)

And even Propagandist Palloy was forced to admit FREE FALL for a SIGNIFICANT part of the descent.

PALLOY SAID:
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"You can clearly see that only the section between 0.7 and 3.2 seconds has constant acceleration."

The fact that initial split second acceleration is difficult to measure is ignored by Palloy to make the ridiculous and irresponsible claim that there "wasn't any acceleration" prior to the 0.7 mark. This is the cheapest rationalization I have seen him invent yet for some imagined gradual failure by a "critical" girder.

At any rate, AFTER the 3.2 second mark, any debris encountered is irrelevant to the FACT that free fall acceleration between the 0.7 and 3.2 second mark REQUIRED that ALL support structures be TOTALLY severed. That can ONLY occurred from a precisely timed demolition sequence.

But facts are inconvenient for Palloy. Notice how your in depth discussion of seismic signatures and sound was totally ignored by BOTH MKing and Palloy. YOU, as an engineer, KNOW what you are talking about. So, they avoid anything that that they cannot bob and weave around with double talk.

Palloy is a text book example of the old Tobacco industry meme that was handed off to the Fossil Fuel Industry to delay the truth. He tries to come off as that fine fellow interested in "objective" discussion when all he really is out there to do is throw DOUBT on absolutely everything said by opponents who defend the truth.

For him, for example, to say that he "surprisingly agrees" with my statement that free fall is 32 feet per second squared is one of his more insidiously clever statements. Any book on physics and gravity provides that figure. The ONLY reason he comes up with such TRIPE is to establish some arrogant puffery about how "much he knows" and how anything I say is "questionable" by his highness, Mr. "objectivity".

Finally, every time I expose his shenanigans, he plays the "verbally abused victim" card.  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/tissue.gif) (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shame.gif)

Basically, while claiming his fishing expeditions and propaganda are an attempt to be "objective"  (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg),THIS is Palloy's mission here in regard to what happened on 9/11 and why it happened.  :evil4:
(http://desmogblog.com/sites/beta.desmogblog.com/files/blogimages/doubt-is-our-product.jpg)


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 21, 2016, 10:29:10 pm
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The equipment shed on top of the elivator shafts which must have been in the center of the building falls into the roof  a fraction of a second before the roof in it's entirety starts to free fall.  This is clear  proof that demolition bright the building down. 

You obviously have a different concept of "clear proof".  I call that "pure guesswork", of the kind needed to make a conspiracy theory stand up.

Now you are being ridiculous.  The center of the building, the strongest part of the building because it is located over the elevator shaft clearly begins to fall first.  That is clear proof the elevator shaft failed first.  In an authentic conflagration elevator shafts are the last to fail.  Frequently they are the only part of a building left standing.  The fact that more people do not notice this obvious fact demonstrates how easily definitive proof is ignored in order to satisfy confirmation bias.  The bias here being that the U.S. Government could never be so evil.  And your bias is not to challenge but to sow doubt.  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)


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K-dog: In an authentic conflagration elevator shafts are the last to fail.  Frequently they are the only part of a building left standing.  The fact that more people do not notice this obvious fact demonstrates how easily definitive proof is ignored in order to satisfy confirmation bias.  The bias here being that the U.S. Government could never be so evil.  And your bias is not to challenge but to sow doubt.

That should be easily tested by you producing lots of photos of destroyed buildings with only the elevator shaft still standing.

WTF!!? "Last to fall" does not mean "still standing"! That is still another example your fried logic circuits.

And the following is pure speculation mixed with spurious accusations:

Palloy SAID
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My contention is NOT that "USG could never be so evil", it is that 9/11 was far bigger than was necessary to justify going after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan (really a cover story for TAPI pipeline, etc).  It would also leave USG/Pentagon/CIA/FBI/Air Force looking like they were an incompetent and incapable of defending the homeland.  Nobody would hatch a stupid plot like that against themselves.  Evil doesn't come into it.

As for making doubly sure by demolishing the WTC towers with explosives, the mere transporting of the required amount of explosives through the streets of New York, which never sleeps, let alone setting them up without anyone noticing, is embarrassingly ridiculous and grasping at straws to make the conspiracy theory fit.  Now THAT is confirmation bias.

"Evil" is not now, or ever was, the issue here. K-dog was using a figure of speech. He has detailed the "how this works" in our gooberment for corporate profit on several occasions. He explained the "Last Man Standing" Neocon MO here recently. As usual, you play dumb.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013201314.png)

Over one trillion dollars spent to make a whole bunch of war profiteers fabulously rich ALONG WITH THE "new Pearl Harbor" excuses for "security measures" police state SWAG in the USA is the ISSUE! If you want to claim that all that money is "insufficient motive" for the fun and games on 9/11, YOU are the one that needs his head examined.

NONE of that was possible WITHOUT 9/11! 9/11 was SINE QUA NON for "justifying" all the police state and war profiteering fun and games we-the-sheeple would not have tolerated otherwise. So spare us the "9/11 evil is confirmation bias malarchy" BULLSHIT.

YOU are the only one grasping at any hair splitting straw you can to deny the facts here.   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/fly.gif)

ALL of the following buildings were destroyed using controlled demolition. NONE of them fell in a the PERFECT PLOT of free fall THROUGHOUT their descent that YOU demand as proof of controlled demolition. Therefore YOU have erected a nice big straw man to avoid the FACT that the signature of the descent plot of WTC 7 is of a controlled demolition. Pretend all you want. you do not have clue of what you are talking about.

https://youtu.be/syzKBBB_THE
https://youtu.be/GVQaVgJne6c

Below you will find, though you (Palloy) will try very hard not to, examples of what K-Dog just tried to explain to you about elevator shafts.

https://youtu.be/eem7d58gjno

Those BRIGHT FLASHES you see below JUST BEFORE WTC 7 is demolished are not, according to Palloy, part of a controlled DEMOLITION. They are, "confirmation bias" of the "crazies imagining things".  You see, when that "critical girder expanded" and gave way, it gave some "pretty colored lights", surely not explosions.
(http://pm1.narvii.com/5869/6a64193d6770c3afd17406c78686c0eda32ded1c_hq.jpg)

https://youtu.be/4GY0yWXGaKs

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 22, 2016, 03:19:51 am
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Agelbert said,

  Over one trillion dollars spent to make a whole bunch of war profiteers fabulously rich ALONG WITH THE "new Pearl Harbor" excuses for "security measures" police state SWAG in the USA is the ISSUE! If you want to claim that all that money is "insufficient motive" for the fun and games on 9/11

NONE of that was possible WITHOUT 9/11! 9/11 was SINE QUA NON for "justifying all the police state and war profiteering fun and games we-the-sheeple would not have tolerated otherwise

GO say's AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, It's always about the Benjamins when dealing with these godless swill, ALWAYS!

Thank You Agelbert, your confirmation of my beliefs is most welcome.
   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)

And thank you, GO, for your comments.    (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png) I have been going through some hard times emotionally (totally unrelated to 9/11) and your comments have lifted my sagging spirits.  8)
Title: Eisenhouer wanted to nuke North Korea. Later on in 1969, Nixon wanted to nuke North Korea too.
Post by: AGelbert on March 28, 2016, 11:43:49 pm
Michio Kaku - Top Secret Military War Plans
Eisenhouer wanted to nuke North Korea. Later on in 1969, Nixon wanted to nuke North Korea too.

Published on Dec 29, 2012

Professor Michio Kaku discusses the secret military projects that the United States had planned during the 1950's, such as President Eisenhower's OPLAN 852 to drop the atomic bomb on North Korea and President Nixon's Atomic Anex which had plans to use Thermonuclear weapons on the the China-Korean Border to end the Vietnam War.

Michio Kaku almost discusses the social perception of warfare and peace.
https://youtu.be/jTxaGzm_v8Q
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 03, 2016, 07:59:39 pm
Agelbert NOTE: Poster UB is attacking K-Dog. K-Dog, unlike UB, is objective both about Guy McPherson's valid science based approach to evidence of the causes of climate change catastrophe and the lack of objectivity (and moral bankruptcy) of Trump's pitch.

 
Kdog yesterday u didnt know what peer review was and now youre calling it a social force and facebook. Thats like Guy objecting to people suggesting the future is survivable in more than 15 yrs because "well its patriarchal", in a podcast.

Guy is the one acting like science should be a social force. The very scientists he tries to use distance themselves from him, and when giving interviews he has to admit his predictions were wrong.  U can not say "so what" because in some very general sense guy could be right. Placing himself as counterpart to the chief climate science denialist Lord Monkton does not help.

Tell us what u mean about trump being irrational and social force, because it seems you are only following the opposite extreme of another one again there.

I think this is pretty objective and science based, don't you?

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-030416191147.jpeg)

And Trump is a cheap, vulgar fascist. He uses wedge issues as emotional hot button bullshit to avoid facts and objectivity in order to demagogue his way into power. It's an old formula. And Trump is far less polished than Hitler was in his pitch. If you support Trump because of your ideology, then you are being irrationally emotional and unscientific.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)

To show how much Trump MUST rely on manipulated emotion and the irrational result that would give him the presidency, just read the following:

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GOP pollster Frank Luntz thinks that terror attacks on the scale of Paris or Brussels could rescue the Donald Trump ticket from defeat in November.

http://tarpley.net/gop-operatives-eye-terrorism-as-possible-outside-event-to-save-republican-ticket/ (http://tarpley.net/gop-operatives-eye-terrorism-as-possible-outside-event-to-save-republican-ticket/)

It's the old 911 trick all over again. And that was learned from the Goebbels technique for getting people to fight a war against their OBJECTVE and SCIENTIFIC interests through MANIPULATION of IRRATIONAL EMOTIONS, by the way. IOW, frightening people with LIES and Synthetic Terror.    (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 16, 2016, 04:51:17 pm
Cheney and neocon friends DID IT. Palloy doesn't want to go there, even if it is rubbed in his face with volumes of irrefutable evidence.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183312.bmp)

The circumstantial evidence alone ( e. g. see the subsequent PROMOTION of the Naval officer in charge of the Pentagon "incompetent" response to the attacks from the exercises to the positioning of fighter jets on 911) is enough to remove any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon had EVERYTHING to do with coordinating AND EXECUTING the attacks. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-241013183046.jpeg)


But Palloy will hem, haw and hair split. Logic is not his thing. So it goes.  ::)

(http://www.911sharethetruth.com/images/cards/CR10-huge.jpg)



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AG: ... volumes of irrefutable evidence.  :emthdown:

The circumstantial evidence alone ...

Yet when given the opportunity to present the "irrefutable evidence", you could only come up with the "circumstantial evidence".  You clearly recognise there is a difference between the two sorts of evidence, but in your non-logical way of looking at the world, which is a mixture of logic and confirmation bias, you refuse to acknowledge your own confirmation bias and then attack my purely logical way of thinking with verbal abuse.  :emthdown:

If your theory is correct, then at some stage the US and Saudi Arabia (presumably G.W. Bush and Bandar bin Sultan) must have put their heads together and decided that to create a pretext for attacking Afghanistan, the Saudis would attack the US through their proxy force, Al Qaeda, and the US security agencies would look the other way while it happened, and hush it up after the fact.  All this despite the fact that Saudi Arabia SUPPORTED the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and that the US military/intelligence services would look completely incompetent in the eyes of the world.  Plus the fact that this outrageous plot would have had to remain absolutely secret for at least the lifetime of Bush (he was 55 at the time) despite the many US insiders that would have to have been involved.

And all to justify attacking Afghanistan openly instead of covertly.  (http://www.coh2.org/images/Smileys/huhsign.gif)
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/5L3XX/spiderman-bullshit-detector/image.jpg?w=544&c=1)

Palloy,   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)


AMAZING how you like LEAVE STUFF OUT of quotes.  ;)

My theory is correct. Everything published by the U.S. Government about 9/11 so far is total BULLSHIT. And this latest official response to the lobbied push for transparency is probably what is known in Intelligence circles as a "limited hang out". This is done several years after the event (the same thing was done with the JFK assassination) BECAUSE the government has been unsuccessful in bullshitting we-the-people to the point that parents are telling their kids that what they are being taught abut 9/11 in the history textbooks is not to be taken seriously, especially if any of them want to be architects, engineers or anyone that needs to study physics and materials science.

SO, the gooberment Propaganda TOOLS spin the story AGAIN with a pretense of a search for truth. The Government will NEVER officially admit Mens Rea complicity in the planning and execution of 9/11.

The only one peddling outrageous plots is YOU.

(https://cotocrew.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/wantedposter11.jpg)

ONLY the M.I.C. HAS ACCESS to NANO-THERMITE!

https://youtu.be/ezIU6ZxYU3A

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"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- Aldous Huxley

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“Tritium is an important component in nuclear weapons. It is used to enhance the efficiency and yield of fission bombs and the fission stages of hydrogen bombs in a process known as “boosting” as well as in external neutron initiators for such weapons,” according Wikipedia; meaning that the only way it would be present in high trace levels is if a nuclear device (or three) detonated within proximity.

I think AG ought to get first go at whether this is logical or not: Tritium is a component of some nuclear weapons.  Tritium was found. Therefore nuclear weapons were used.


(http://www.coh2.org/images/Smileys/huhsign.gif)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080416030758.jpeg)
Why does Palloy think I'm a banana peel? Because he was told there was nothing under the banana peel. ;)



Sorry, you got that EXACTLY BACKWARDS, again.

The Gooberment said, in those NIST WTC 7 "studies" that you are so fond of quoting, that they DID NOT LOOK FOR nano (or any other kind of) Thermite.

Palloy, if you have feet of clay, and you don't want to ADMIT you have feet of clay, the only thing to do is to not look for clay. It's the only logical way for the murdering liars who did this state sponsored terrorism to cover their ass. IOW, the dog ate their lunch. Nothing to see, move along.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)

Take your ridiculous mockery and ponder what a fool you are making of yourself with your "nuclear weapons" silliness.  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/gen152.gif)


AG, are you saying you don't believe the Intellihub article?  It was a perfect example of how telling a partial, but incomplete, truth and then joining the dots, can give you "proof".  I would have thought that would be right up your alley.
(http://www.pxleyes.com/images/contests/misleading%20names/fullsize/misleading%20names_4afcf5ea8af41.jpg)
Did Palloy (again  ::) ) accidentially on purpose just confuse Agelbert's statements for a 'jump to conclusion irrational' "alley"? YEP!  :evil4:



Palloy, I know this is a real challenge for you, but please try to read for comprehension.  ;D


Limited Hang Out DEFINITION:

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A limited hangout or partial hangout is, according to former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Victor Marchetti, "spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further."[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout)

Have a nice day.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191456.bmp)


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 16, 2016, 10:09:25 pm
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/be/bead363502f8e7564038c7072c490cfc0da55bf30c42bb1f04983157e9ae7125.jpg)


The U.S. Military—What a Waste

Posted on Apr 11, 2016

By William D. Hartung / TomDispatch


SNIPPET:
From spending $150 million on private villas for a handful of personnel in Afghanistan to blowing $2.7 billion on an air surveillance balloon that doesn’t work, the latest revelations of waste at the Pentagon are just the most recent howlers in a long line of similar stories stretching back at least five decades.

Other hot-off-the-presses examples would include the Army’s purchase of helicopter gears worth $500 each for $8,000 each and the accumulation of billions of dollars’ worth of weapons components that will never be used.

And then there’s the one that would have to be everyone’s favorite Pentagon waste story: the spending of $50,000 to investigate the bomb-detecting capabilities of African elephants. (And here’s a shock: they didn’t turn out to be that great!) The elephant research, of course, represents chump change in the Pentagon’s wastage sweepstakes and in the context of its $600-billion-plus budget, but think of it as indicative of the absurd lengths the Department of Defense will go to when what’s at stake is throwing away taxpayer dollars.

Keep in mind that the above examples are just the tip of the tip of a titanic iceberg of military waste.   >:(

In a recent report I did for the Center for International Policy, I identified 27 recent examples of such wasteful spending totaling over $33 billion. And that was no more than a sampling of everyday life in the twenty-first-century world of the Pentagon.

The staggering persistence and profusion of such cases suggests that it’s time to rethink what exactly they represent. Far from being aberrations in need of correction to make the Pentagon run more efficiently, wasting vast sums of taxpayer dollars should be seen as a way of life for the Department of Defense. And with that in mind, let’s take a little tour through the highlights of Pentagon waste from the 1960s to the present.

 (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/reading.gif)

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/what_a_waste_the_us_military_20160411
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 02, 2016, 07:11:17 pm
Heating Up.

RE


http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/02/us/seattle-may-day-protests/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/02/us/seattle-may-day-protests/)

Molotov cocktails, violence at Seattle protests


Local news was saying that May Day protests were going to be bad and that there would be violence on Saturday night.  A thinking brain might have put two and two together and asked how the news was known before it even happened and a thinking brain would also arrive at the answer.

Myself I don't have to think so hard.  A few years ago I saw a buff navy seal type totally dressed in black smashing windows on the news with a practiced ease.  His easy and distinct body language made me recognize him at once.  I had been approached by him on a trip to Oakland California on a visit there where he had asked me leading questions concerning medical marijuana laws in Washington State hoping for an incriminating comment.  I had visited Okstradam University on that trip which was under surveillance at the time.  The impromptu interview happened on the street in front of the Okstradam building as I walked back outside.  A few months after my trip the University was raided.

Ever since WTO in Seattle, so many years ago May Day has seemed to attract a lot of 'training excercises' where terrorist attacks and response tactics are tested.  Sometimes the training excercises are actually announced but to make the drill as close to reality as possible sometimes they are not announced.  They just happen like the Boston Bombing did.  Homeland Security can't keep you safe unless you are afraid, very very afraid, and a few clowns throwing Molotov cocktails is just what the director ordered.  Budgets must be spent!



Yup.

And it was not long after the year 2000 (see the Battle for Seattle) that 911 just happened to come along in time to JACK UP depressed oil prices for over a decade, boost war profiteering swag and make everyone forget about gamed "free trade"  "agreements", never mind the demands at that time for cleaner energy, an end to subsidies for fossil fuels and a livable wage.

What a coincidence...

A dirty bomb in New York might just save dirty energy and Wall Street parasite bacon AGAIN.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)

That is, if we-the-people haven't learned ANYTHING about how it works in this fascist fuckdom called Amerika in the last 16 years.

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 10, 2016, 08:43:55 pm
Don’t forget how the Soviet Union saved the world from Hitler (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)

By Ishaan Tharoor

May 8, 2015

Story with videos and interesting photographs:


(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-060914180936.jpeg)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/05/08/dont-forget-how-the-soviet-union-saved-the-world-from-hitler/?wpisrc=nl_az_most
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 16, 2016, 06:17:17 pm
West Bank Solar Project Unites Muslims and Jews (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-object-062.gif)

Lorraine Chow | May 16, 2016 2:13 pm

Could a new solar project help promote peace between Israel and Palestine?  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif) Build Israel Palestine, a nonprofit involving both Muslims and Jews in the U.S., is building a $100,000 solar array that will help power an underground water pump used by farmers in the village of Al-Auja, which is located in the embattled West Bank.


Project One: Increasing Water Capacity in West Bank is the first large project to be funded by Jews and Muslims in the U.S. and has both Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslims on the technical team, the New York Times reported.

The solar facility will draw water from subterranean sources to irrigate a grove of palms growing Medjool dates. The project also involves working with agricultural experts on both sides of the border who will provide training in farming to the Al-Auja community.

Importantly, the initiative will help reduce water and electricity costs for the 45 farming families living in Al-Auja, a village of 5,000 Palestinians where electricity is often unreliable and expensive, and water is scarce and expensive to pump.

The New York Times reported that Palestinian farmers are embracing the project on one condition. According to Ben Jablonski, a former Manhattan investment banker and founder of Build Israel Palestine, the farmers insisted that the donors and engineers behind the project have no connections to the Israeli settlements in the West Bank on land Palestinians consider theirs.

According to the New York Times, “water is undeniably scarce in the Jordan Valley, and a longstanding complaint among Palestinians and their supporters is that it is unfairly distributed across the West Bank. A 2009 report by Amnesty International, for example, concluded that the area’s 450,000 Israeli settlers consumed as much as or more water than the Palestinian population of 2.3 million.”

Jablonski, who is Jewish, gave up his board seat with the Jewish National Fund, a nonprofit infrastructure developer linked to some West Bank settlements. He launched Build Israel Palestine in 2014 with Tarek Elgawhary, an Egyptian Muslim religious scholar and the CEO of the Coexist Foundation, an educational nonprofit based in Washington DC. Former New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg is one of the partners.

Build Israel Palestine states on its website that “this model of jointly financing tangible projects benefiting people on the ground will be an example for others to follow.”

The nonprofit, which is comprised of a community of Muslims, Jews and Christians in the U.S., says they are committed to helping people on the ground in Israel and Palestine through cross-border water projects by partnering with locals in Israel and Palestine.

“Note, our work is not a substitute for a political solution for the Israeli/Palestinian conflict,” the nonprofit states. “We are doing what we can to help people, which is needed regardless of the political climate.” (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)


http://ecowatch.com/2016/05/16/west-bank-solar-project/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 30, 2016, 10:24:46 pm
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As Our Past Wars Are Glorified This Memorial Day Weekend, Give Some Thought To Our Prospects Against The Russians And Chinese In World War III

May 28, 2016 by Paul Craig Roberts

source: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/05/28/as-our-past-wars-are-glorified-this-memorial-day-weekend-give-some-thought-to-our-prospects-against-the-russians-and-chinese-in-world-war-iii/

The Saker reports that Russia is preparing for World War III, not because Russia intends to initiate aggression but because Russia is alarmed by the hubris and arrogance of the West, by the demonization of Russia, by provocative military actions by the West, by American interference in the Russian province of Chechnya and in former Russian provinces of Ukraine and Georgia, and by the absence of any restraint from Western Europe on Washington’s ability to foment war. http://thesaker.is/how-russia-is-preparing-for-wwiii/

Like Steven Starr, Stephen Cohen, myself, and a small number of others, the Saker understands the reckless irresponsibility of convincing Russia that the United States intends to attack her.

It is extraordinary to see the confidence that many Americans place in their military’s ability. After 15 years the US has been unable to defeat a few lightly armed Taliban, and after 13 years the situation in Iraq remains out of control. This is not very reassuring for the prospect of taking on Russia, much less the strategic alliance between Russia and China. The US could not even defeat China, a Third World country at the time, in Korea 60 years ago.

Americans need to pay attention to the fact that “their” government is a collection of crazed stupid fools likely to bring vaporization to the United States and all of Europe.

Russian weapons systems are far superior to American ones. American weapons are produced by private companies for the purpose of making vast profits. The capability of the weapons is not the main concern. There are endless cost overruns that raise the price of US weapons into outer space. The F-35 fighter, which is less capable than the F-15 it is supposed to replace, costs between $148 million and $337 million per fighter, depending on whether it is an Air Force, Marine Corps, or Navy model. http://www.cnbc.com/2014/07/31/how-dods-15-trillion-f-35-broke-the-air-force.html

A helmet for a F-35 pilot costs $400,000, more than a high end Ferrari. http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/10/26/f-35-helmet-costs-400000-4-times-predecessor/73826180/

(Washington forces or bribes hapless Denmark into purchasing useless and costly F-35: http://sputniknews.com/news/20160528/1040395012/denmark-f-35-military-nato-lockheed.html)

It is entirely possible that the world is being led to destruction by nothing more than the greed of the US military-security complex. Delighted that the reckless and stupid Obama regime has resurrected the Cold War, thus providing a more convincing “enemy” than the hoax terrorist one, the “Russian threat” has been restored to its 20th century role of providing a justification for bleeding the American taxpayer, social services, and the US economy dry in behalf of profits for armament manufacturers.

However, this time Washington’s rhetoric accompanying the revived Cold War is far more reckless and dangerous, as are Washington’s actions, than during the real Cold War. Previous US presidents worked to defuse tensions. The Obama regime has inflated tensions with lies and reckless provocations, which makes it far more likely that the new Cold War will turn hot. If Killary gains the White House, the world is unlikely to survive her first term.

All of America’s wars except the first—the war for independence—were wars for Empire. Keep that fact in mind as you hear the Memorial Day bloviations about the brave men and women who served our country in its times of peril. The United States has never been in peril, but Washington has delivered peril to numerous other countries in its pursuit of hegemony over others.

Today for the first time in its history the US faces peril as a result of Washington’s attempts to assert hegemony over Russia and China.

Russia and China are not impressed by Washington’s arrogance, hubris, and stupidity. Moreover, these two countries are not the native American Plains Indians, who were starved into submission by the Union Army’s slaughter of the buffalo.

They are not the tired Spain of 1898 from whom Washington stole Cuba and the Philippines and called the theft a “liberation.”

They are not small Japan whose limited resources were spread over the vastness of the Pacific and Asia.

They are not Germany already defeated by the Red Army before Washington came to the war.

They are not Granada, Panama, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, or the various Latin American countries that General Smedley Butler said the US Marines made safe for “the United Fruit Company” and “some lousy bank investment.”

An insouciant American population preoccupied with selfies and delusions of military prowess, while its crazed government picks a fight with Russia and China, has no future.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West, How America Was Lost, and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order.


http://thesaker.is/as-our-past-wars-are-glorified-this-memorial-day-weekend-give-some-thought-to-our-prospects-against-the-russians-and-chinese-in-world-war-iii/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 04, 2016, 05:53:31 pm
As with Occupy, the revolution will not be televised.


Media Blackout As France Witnesses Biggest Revolution In 200 Years (http://yournewswire.com/media-blackout-as-france-witnesses-biggest-revolution-in-200-years/)
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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 08, 2016, 03:54:51 pm
Victoria Nuland is a neocon warmonger of the most insidious and bat S H I T crazy sort that the neocons have ever spawned. She has been behind every baseless aggression bordering Russia for the last decade. She has consistently blamed Russia for aggression that she and her neocon pals in the state department planned, coordinated and executed. 

She WANTS a nuclear war with Russia!  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/p8.gif)  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/126fs2277341.gif)


Elect The Warmonger Killary And You Will Have Victoria Nuland As Secretary Of State


May 20, 2016

Elect The Warmonger Killary And You Will Have Victoria Nuland As Secretary Of State Says David Stockman And The Result Will Be World War III Says PCR

And that brings us to the deplorable Kagan clan—–Washington’s leading resident family of war-mongering neo-cons. The odds are that, if elected President, Hillary would likely choose one of them——her protégé during her stint in the Obama administration, Victoria Nuland—– as Secretary of State. Yet that would be lights out for any hope of caging Washington’s imperial ambitions and reducing the massive and utterly unnecessary burden of current defense spending. The truth is, there are fewer greater menaces in the Imperial City today than Victoria Nuland.

Not only does she happen to be married to Bob Kagen, the leading neocon guru of global interventionism and regime change, but she earned her spurs as a key aid to Dick Cheney.

No matter. When the American public naively thought it elected the “peace” candidate in 2008, Nuland just changed her Jersey, joined Hillary’s team at State, and by 2013 was assistance secretary for European Affairs.

And that’s when Nuland’s rampage of everlasting shame began. She was the main architect of the coup in Kiev in February 2014 that overthrow the constitutionally elected government of the Ukraine, thereby commencing the whole sequence of confrontations with Russia and the full-throated demonization of Vladimir Putin that has followed.

Needless to say, overthrowing an elected government on Russia’s front doorstep——and thereby rekindling ancient tensions between the nationalistic Ukrainians and neo-Nazis who seized power with Washington’s help and the Russian speaking populations in the Donbas and Crimea——had nothing to do with the safety and security of the American people.

It was a straight-out imperial reach designed to bring the Ukraine into NATO and to extend Washington’s hegemony to the entirely of the old Warsaw bloc geography. So doing, Nuland almost single-handedly restarted the cold war and pulled the US and Europe into a dragnet of costly economic sanctions that are completely pointless and unnecessary.

And Hillary Clinton has been onboard for this misbegotten campaign from the get-go. At one point she actually likened Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler.

From http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/the-dreadful-kagan-clan-hillarys-warmongers-in-waiting/ (http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/the-dreadful-kagan-clan-hillarys-warmongers-in-waiting/)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 09, 2016, 04:18:52 pm
Sierra Club Endorses Hillary Clinton

Allison Chin, Sierra Club | June 9, 2016 12:34 pm

http://ecowatch.com/2016/06/09/sierra-club-endorses-hillary-clinton/ (http://ecowatch.com/2016/06/09/sierra-club-endorses-hillary-clinton/)

Agelbert COMMENT: Thank you Sierra Club, for paving the way for Hillary Clinton to remove any and all barriers to Fracking in the USA and the world, as she did during her tenure as Secretary of State.

We are also pleased that Victoria Nuland is President Hillary Clinton's pick for Secretary of State.

Thank you Sierra Club, for ensuring a huge increase in the price of fossil fuels (i.e. price shock bonanza!) from the war tensions that Victoria Nuland, neocon State Department queen of the "let's go to war with Russia" group will joyfully generate.

We are ready, willing and able to patriotically and in altruistic fashion (OF COURSE!), work arm in arm with the Clinton Administration to provide peace, prosperity and lots of cheap, clean energy to the world for the welfare of all humanity.


Signed,

Your Loyal Servants and Political Campaign Friends from Exxon, Schlumberger, Halliburton, etc. (you get the idea).

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 09, 2016, 09:01:57 pm
http://in.reuters.com/article/global-conflict-peaceindex-idINKCN0YU0CL (http://in.reuters.com/article/global-conflict-peaceindex-idINKCN0YU0CL)


World | Wed Jun 8, 2016 9:59am IST
Related: World
Global violence worsens, driven by Middle East conflicts - peace index
By Alex Whiting

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A civil defence member carries an injured girl at a site hit by airstrikes in the rebel-controlled area of Maaret al-Numan town in Idlib province, Syria June 2, 2016. REUTERS/Khalil Ashawi

LONDON (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - The world has become increasingly violent with deaths from conflict at a 25-year high, terrorist attacks at an all-time high and more people displaced than at any time since World War Two, the 2016 Global Peace Index showed on Wednesday.

The annual index, which measures 23 indicators including incidents of violent crime, countries' levels of militarisation and weapons imports, said intensifying conflicts in the Middle East were mostly to blame.

But beyond the Middle East, the world was actually becoming more peaceful, researchers behind the index said.

"Quite often, in the mayhem which is happening in the Middle East currently, we lose sight of the other positive trends," said Steve Killelea, founder of the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP), which produces the index.

"If we look in the last year, if we took out the Middle East ... the world would have become more peaceful," Killelea told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

More than 100,000 were killed in conflict in 2014, up from nearly 20,000 in 2008. Syria, where nearly 67,000 people were killed in 2014, accounted for the bulk of the increase, according to the index.

The United Nations has said the number of displaced people is likely to have "far surpassed" a record 60 million last year.

The index showed that most attacks it classed as terrorist were concentrated in five countries - Syria, Iraq, Nigeria, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The economic cost of violence over the past decade was $137 trillion - greater than the global GDP in 2015, the IEP showed.

The indicator which improved the most in the last year was funding for U.N. peacekeeping operations, which reached record highs in 2016, IEP said.

"However, peacebuilding and peacekeeping spending remains proportionately small compared to the economic impact of violence, representing just 2 percent of global losses from armed conflict," Killelea said in a statement.

More than 120,000 U.N. peacekeepers are currently deployed in 16 operations worldwide. The largest are in Democratic Republic of Congo, Sudan's Darfur region, South Sudan, Mali, Central African Republic and Lebanon.

Another improvement in peace, is a 10 percent fall in global military spending in the last three years, IEP said.

BUILDING LASTING PEACE

Europe is the most peaceful region in the world, although the region's peace score dropped in the wake of attacks in Paris and Brussels. Deaths from such attacks in Europe have more than doubled over the last five years.

Last year, world leaders agreed to "significantly reduce all forms of violence" by 2030 and find lasting solutions to conflict and insecurity, as part of a set of Sustainable Development Goals to fight inequality and extreme poverty.

Building lasting peace takes more than just improving security, Killelea said.

"Quite often as an international community we lose sight of that and try and have a one shoe fits all (approach)," he said.

"For me the most profound thing about the index is the ability to use it ... to better understand the qualities ... which create peaceful societies," Killelea said.

Iceland is the world's most peaceful country listed in the index, followed by Denmark, Austria, New Zealand and Portugal.

The least peaceful country is Syria, followed by South Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia.

(Reporting by Alex Whiting, Editing by Katie Nguyen.; Please credit the Thomson Reuters Foundation, the charitable arm of Thomson Reuters, that covers humanitarian news, women's rights, trafficking, corruption and climate change. Visit news.trust.org)


It's all so sad and all so unnecessary.   (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2955.gif)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)

Did you know that Syria is where Golden Hamsters were first found?

If, as reported, about 12% of the human population of Syria has been killed, imagine how many animals have died in this human greed based insanity.

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War SUCKS!
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 30, 2016, 08:57:55 pm
Why China Matters – U.S. Could Lose Offshore Drilling Rights To EEZ   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191258.bmp)     (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191456.bmp)

July 29, 2016 by Bloomberg

 
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Okinotorishima is an island in Japan’s economic zone. Image via Bloomberg

By Peter Coy (Bloomberg) The U.S. and other coastal nations could lose millions of square nautical miles of ocean that are now in their exclusive economic zones. The loss would be an indirect result of an arbitration panel’s ruling on China’s dispute with the Philippines in the South China Sea.

Largely overlooked in the tribunal’s July 12 decision was a strict interpretation of which dry land is entitled to a 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone—the surrounding ocean where a nation has sole rights to fish, drill for oil, and search for minerals. While not a legal precedent, the 479-page ruling could influence other judges and arbitrators because of its rigorous argument. “These arbitrators knew that this case was being watched around the world,” says Paul Reichler, a partner in law firm Foley Hoag and lead counsel for the Philippines. “They wanted it to be as close to perfect as possible.”

The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea doesn’t allow nations to declare exclusive economic zones around “rocks which cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own.”
What that’s meant has never been clear. Many countries, including the U.S. and Japan, have claimed exclusive economic zones around tiny atolls and outcroppings of rock. The U.S. hasn’t ratified the treaty because of opposition from congressional Republicans, who fear it would open the U.S. to lawsuits. But the U.S. “scrupulously” follows the treaty’s provisions anyway, says James Kraska, a law professor at the U.S. Naval War College. Push could come to shove if another nation seeks to fish or drill or mine in waters surrounding some dinky U.S. rock.

The tribunal concluded that having people live on an island doesn’t prove habitability if food and water comes from elsewhere. Countries will “now have a greatly reduced incentive” to fight over ownership of rocks (http://www.emofaces.com/png/200/emoticons/fingerscrossed.png) if they no longer have exclusive zones, Kraska says. On the minus side, fisheries might be depleted quickly if countries lose the ability to curb fishing in these zones.

The bottom line: An arbitration panel’s definition of what an island is could undermine nations’ claims of economic zones around rock outcroppings.


 
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https://gcaptain.com/why-china-matters-u-s-could-loose-offshore-drilling-rights-to-eez/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on September 23, 2016, 12:31:51 pm
Western Media Credibility In Free Fall Collapse

Paul Craig Roberts

The latest from the Gallup Poll is that only 32% of Amerians trust the print and TV media to tell the truth. http://www.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx
Republicans, 18 to 49 year old Americans, and independents trust the media even less, with trust rates of 14%, 26%, and 30%.

The only group that can produce a majority that still trusts the media are Democrats with a 51% trust rate in print and TV reporting. The next highest trust rate is Americans over 50 years of age with a trust rate of 38 percent.

The conclusion is that old people who are Democrats are the only remaining group that barely trusts the media. This mistaken trust is due to their enculturation. For older Democrats belief in government takes the place of Republican belief in evangelical Christianity. Older Democrats are firm believers that it was government under the leadership of President Franklin D. Roosevelt that saved America from the Great Depression. As the print and TV media in the 21st century are firmly aligned with the government, the trust in government spills over into trust of the media that is serving the government. As the generation of Democrats enculturated with this mythology die off, Democratic trust rates will plummet toward Republican levels.

It is not difficult to see why trust in the media has collapsed. The corrupt Clinton regime, which we might be on the verge of repeating, allowed a somewhat diverse and independent media to be 90% acquired by six mega-corporations. The result was the disappearance of independence in reporting and opinion.

The constraints that corporate ownership and drive for profits put on journalistic freedom and resources reduced reporting to regurgitations of government and corporate press releases, always the cheapest and uncontroversial way to report.

With journalistic families driven out of journalism by estate taxes, the few remaining newspapers become acquisitions like a trophy wife or a collector Ferrari. Jeff Bezos, CEO and founder of amazon.com, handed over $250 million in cash for the Washington Post. Jeff might be a whiz in e-commerce, but when it comes to journalism he could just as well be named Jeff Bozo.

On September 12, Washington Post reporter Cindy Boren dropped the Washington Post below the level of the supermarket tabloid, National Enquirer. One must wonder where her editor was. Drunk perhaps? The Washington Post actually reported that a Nigerian MD, Bennet Omalu, “whose credentials and tenacity are well known,” has concluded that Hillary Clinton’s obvious medical problems could be due to her being poisoned by a Putin-Trump conspiracy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/12/the-man-who-discovered-cte-thinks-hillary-clinton-may-have-been-poisoned/

One could possibly conclude that Cindy Boren and her Washington Post editor were having fun with Omalu, except that the article repeated the unfounded allegation that circumstantial evidence according to a UK inquiry associates Putin with the poisoning death of Litvinenko.

In other words, first Litvinenko, now Hillary.

If circumstantial evidence is to be the Washington Post’s guide, then clearly that evidence suggests that the neoconservatives, well-ensconced in high government positions and desperate for a New Pearl Harbor in order to launch their wars of hegemony in the Middle East, are responsible for 9/11.

Yet the Washington Post has a full-time reporter whose job is to disparage conspiracy theories while the Washington Post itself launches the conspiracy theory of the century: Putin And Trump Conspiracy Poisons US Democratic Candidate for President. http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/09/15/washington-post-grasps-crazy-conspiracy-theory-support-hillary-clinton.html

If intelligence, or perhaps simply sufficient time in Americans’ lives to investigate the news, were not in such short supply, possibly Americans would reflect on what the benefit is of being driven by Washington into conflict with Russia and China.

It most certainly will not be victory in war, as we all will be dead.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09/16/western-media-credibility-in-free-fall-collapse-paul-craig-roberts/




Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on October 04, 2016, 01:16:12 pm
So the US suspends cooperation with Russia over Syria, and Russia blames US of working with terrorists all along.  I hope there is an understanding on where the US can and cannot fly in Syria, otherwise we are going to see US planes being shot down by Russian S-400 missiles, and the US response to that.

https://www.rt.com/usa/361482-bilateral-suspended-syria-ceasefire/ (https://www.rt.com/usa/361482-bilateral-suspended-syria-ceasefire/)
US suspends bilateral contact with Russia over Syria
3 Oct, 2016

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https://www.rt.com/news/361502-syria-us-devil-terrorists/ (https://www.rt.com/news/361502-syria-us-devil-terrorists/)
‘Deal with the devil’: US ‘ready to ally with terror’ to overthrow Assad – Russia Foreign Ministry
3 Oct, 2016

//Meanwhile, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland is set to visit Moscow this week. However, she is expected to discuss solely Ukraine and implementation of the Minsk agreements, according to the State Department’s press release.

The heavy hand of the Zionist neocons continues to be evident. It's a shame that no one in this country will ever hear this POV.

And what would you give to be a fly on the wall at the meeting with Victoria "**** the EU" Nuland.


Russia understands the situation and has the moral high ground here. The U.S. is not now, or ever has been, an honest broker in Syria.

The U.S. is the out of control, predatory capitalist, neocon crazy uncle here.

That said, I firmly believe that the tools in out insane military and state department pushing this confrontation will soon be deciding to "spend more time with their families".

There still are some people in our intelligence community that are as sane and sober as the Russians. WWIII ain't gonna happen. Mark my words.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on October 30, 2016, 03:27:06 pm
Ralph Nader and Noam Chomsky Have Their First Public Conversation (Video)

Posted on Oct 26, 2016
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Ralph Nader and Noam Chomsky had an important discussion about America’s current “electoral extravaganza,” climate change, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and several other topics during an hour-long interview.

https://youtu.be/M6c1FLWbNP4

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/noam_chomsky_ralph_nader_recent_first_public_conversation_20161026

Agelbert NOTE:
Take the indisputable facts these worthies state about the dire situation we are in (although they do admit there is some hope  (http://www.emofaces.com/png/200/emoticons/fingerscrossed.png)) to heart or keep believing the myth that the US is a free country to your detriment, chagrin and ultimate demise; Choose LIFE or you will die miserably in denial. 

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on November 09, 2016, 08:26:52 pm
November 9, 2016
The Urgency of Now - A Message from Paul Jay

Paul Jay concludes our election night coverage with a promise to our viewers to be a platform for movements trying to organize.

https://youtu.be/JAilK8WV-lY

TRANSCRIPT of above Video: PAUL JAY, TRNN: As I said earlier, I don't think there's a party more responsible, assuming you're not happy about Trump's victory, if you are then I'm surprised you're watching us. But for other people who are not so happy and we've talked about the policies of the Clinton administration, of course Bush and the continuation of the economic policies of the Obama administration.

I think it’'s primarily the economic policies that are responsible for this. She asked Trump's language of noninterventionism in foreign affairs certainly appealed to people. But it was fundamentally the shifting of even more vast amounts of wealth into fewer and fewer hands that created this condition and the promises of Donald Trump I think by any objective measure will not alleviate those problems for people but as one of our guests said earlier, this is like, giving the finger, excuse me. This is just 'we don't believe any of you and we kind of don't believe Trump either but we're going to just give you the finger up because we don't know what else to do here'.

The xenophobia, the racism, all of this we've seen before in history. There's nothing new about blaming the other, blaming minorities. There's certainly nothing new in American history about this. We're going to be opening up a restaurant in the Real News building called Ida B.’s table and it's named after Ida B. Wells who was a very courageous journalist, investigative journalist, African American woman who exposed systemic lynching. One of the things in her investigation she exposed was that when unemployment went up amongst white workers, lynchings went up. And that it wasn’t just anger from white workers, that it was being deliberately organized by employers to let white workers vent by going out and lynching black workers. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013200859.png) (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif)


So there's nothing new in what we're seeing here. But as dismal as this all might look for progressive people and I personally do think this is not the best of scenarios that could have happened tonight. There is also something here which is that the economic situation is smoke and mirrors. The economic recovery is false as far as any serious economist I've talked to. The federal bank threw tons of money at banks to make them look solvent. But the real bottom line of the economy is that demand low wages have hardly moved at all. Real demand is extremely low and it's going to get lower. Trump's policies are far from what he promised, are not going to increase jobs.

Certainly, not going to increase worker’s' wages which means the recession is likely to deepen here. The geopolitical threat in spite of Trump's talk, I don't personally believe it. I said personally in the broadcast I think it's going to be more of a Cheney situation with very aggressive foreign policy by Pence. Pence's critique of Clinton is she was weak on Russia. Pence and Trump have talked about we're going to put an end to ISIS. They've talked about bombings at a great scale. But Pence is as provocative with Russia as Clinton is. We'll see.

The number one problem we're all facing here, the really deep crisis and perhaps the most dangerous thing about what happened tonight is that we are now going to have a congress and a president that don't believe human caused climate change is real. If there was ever a time for all of these movements, whether it's black lives matter, whether it's climate change and whether it's workers fighting for rights. If it was ever a time for all of these movements to converge, merge, and not just take to the streets but work on various kind of electoral strategies and mass organizing, clearly it's now.

At the Real News we hope to be a platform for discussing and debating what comes next and we've done some of that tonight. We're going to continue. And let me once again stress the importance of the climate change issue which got almost no discussion whatsoever in this presidential election. We have a new film out called the Koch Brothers war on climate science. Well, Koch Brothers are going to get their way for the next two years until 2018 and maybe beyond.

It’s a very dangerous time. Very dangerous moment. But we humans have seen very dangerous times before. Whether it'’s before leading into the first world war before leading into the second world war. I say that with some meaning because we discussed a little bit earlier that there's going to be an I think disillusionment here of Trump supporters where their lives just don't get better. It doesn't matter that we know what is really coming down the pike here. Given this Trump-Pence alliance and Pence's connection with Karl Rove and the global agenda of these people, and it's not just these people because certainly democrats do the same thing. But the answer they have in these situations is war. And we need to be very aware of this and on guard for this.

So, we hope on the Real News that we will obviously be following all of this and we hope you will join us. So, thanks for sticking with us tonight and we'’ll be back tomorrow to talk about the post-election fall out and as I said we will be a platform in terms of everyone discussing what needs to be done and what needs to be done next. Thanks for joining us on the Real News Network.

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=17636
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 02, 2016, 06:11:00 pm
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Editor Of Major Newspaper Says He Planted Stories For CIA

http://jforpeace.blogspot.com/2016/12/editor-of-major-newspaper-says-he.html
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 03, 2016, 06:43:46 pm
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/was_11_8_a_new_9_11_20161202
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 06, 2016, 01:13:00 pm
https://youtu.be/5MKWPWD3C-0

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Jon Eagle Sr.

22 hours ago.

I witnessed something powerful and profound today. Wes Clark Jr and the assembled veterans took a knee and collectively asked for forgiveness for the genocide and war crimes committed by the United States Military against tribal nations in this country.

Leksi Leonard Crow Dog on behalf of the tribes in attendance accepted and asked for forgiveness for any hurt that might have been caused June 25, 1876 when the Great Sioux Nation defeated the 7th Cavalry.

The last thing he said to the veterans was, "... and today we forgive and ask for world peace." All the veterans replied in a single unified voice, "WORLD PEACE!!!!"

The Native Veterans filed through the ranks, shaking hands and giving each other hugs. There were a lot of warriors with tears in their eyes.

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Veterans at Standing Rock shock tribe members, beg forgiveness for war crimes against tribal nations

By Jen Hayden   

Monday Dec 05, 2016 ·  4:13 PM EST

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/5/1607591/-Veterans-at-Standing-Rock-shock-tribe-members-beg-forgiveness-for-war-crimes-against-tribal-nations

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 08, 2016, 05:17:50 pm
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“The political crisis arrives when the people sense that the prevailing order is built on a foundation of oppressions and lies.”

White Supremacy, U.S. Exceptionalism and Capitalist Dogma Are All ‘Fake News’

Posted on Dec 8, 2016


By Glen Ford / Black Agenda Report

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 10, 2016, 09:54:17 pm
https://youtu.be/NeJmLmmbTI8

December 7, 2016

The People's Tribunal on the Iraq War, Day One: John Cavanaugh

On Day 1 of the CODEPINK #IraqTribunal, participants provided testimony on the lies that were used to invade Iraq.

http://therealnews.com/t2/story:17868:The-People%27s-Tribunal-on-the-Iraq-War%2C-Day-One%3A-John-Cavanaugh
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 16, 2016, 08:30:07 pm
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https://youtu.be/2-kh5I-Mn3g
Dec. 12, 2016: We Are Walking In To Dangerous Territory...

Agelbert NOTE: For those who think this is "no big deal", just a couple of days later the Chinese made it quite clear that the ONE China policy must NOT be interfered with (referring to Trump's call to the President of Taiwan AND probably other belligerent talk by the STUPID Trump Team).

But the Chinese were not done just with words. They took ACTION (see bellow). I think the Chinese KNOW Trump is a moron and a bluffing con artist with no real stuff behind his demagoguery. The Chinese are calling Trump's bluff. If he doesn't back down, we are all in a world of trouble.


China seizes US naval probe in South China Sea

Posted 17 Dec 2016 00:27 Updated 17 Dec 2016 05:46

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The incident comes as President-elect Donald Trump has repeatedly infuriated Beijing, by questioning longstanding US policy on Taiwan, calling Beijing a currency manipulator and threatening Chinese imports with punitive tariffs.

"This was very likely a highly planned and escalatory move to show China will not take matters lightly when it comes to" Trump, said Harry Kazianis, the director of defense studies at the conservative Center for the National Interest.

"Beijing is showing it has the capability to respond in a time and place of its choosing."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/china-seizes-us-naval-probe-in-south-china-sea/3373900.html
 
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 18, 2016, 08:08:17 pm
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December 18, 2016

Trump's Realignment with Putin's Russia

Leo Panitch and Paul Jay discuss how Trump's admiration for Putin's authoritarianism and his close alliances with capitalist oligarchs leads away from neoliberal international rule-making and towards crude deal-making.

https://youtu.be/IjsjGHqyCRg

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=17928
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 19, 2016, 11:27:52 pm
Agelbert NOTE: Well, China tested Trump and he failed miserably to show any decorum or statesmanship. Expect China to play this moronic demagogue like a violin.

SNIPPET from the news article:

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U.S. President-elect Donald Trump weighed in to the row on Saturday, tweeting: “China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters – rips it out of water and takes it to China in unprecedented act.”

China Will Give Back Drone, Criticizes U.S. “Hyping Up” the Incident

https://gcaptain.com/china-will-give-back-drone-criticizes-u-s-hyping-incident/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 22, 2016, 01:18:04 pm
China Tells Trump's Fools, Want A Trade War? We'll Start By Targeting Republican States. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/cowboypistol.gif)


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Thursday Dec 22, 2016 · 10:08 AM EST
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Many of our Allies and Foes are trying to figure out what the man-child psycho is going to end up doing.  As with all members of the GOP cult, you can’t believe a single word they tell you, and the sooner we Democrats learn that, the better off we’re going to be.

Well China is having none of this nonsense of saying one thing one moment and the complete opposite the next.  If Trump and his band of fools wants to talk about a trade war with China, China is going to be ready to respond in a way that hurts Trump supporters first.    (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Banane21.gif) (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/chinese-emoticon-22648577.jpg)


Yesterday, Trump named Peter Navarro as a trade adviser.  Navarro has been a big critic of trade with China.  Well China is taking no time to respond:

Trump team’s threats to name China a currency manipulator and to erect high tariffs against it—drew fire in China outside official circles.


“China is now preparing some weapons,” Ms. Cheng said. China’s Commerce Ministry “is quite busy now, I’m sure.”
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“Their objective will be to parry what Trump does with targeted reprisals in areas of U.S. vulnerability.”

Among China’s likely targets, say trade experts: Boeing Co. aircraft and U.S. farm exports from Midwestern Republican states. Canceled Boeing orders would hurt U.S. shareholders, labor unions and the U.S. trade deficit, prompting pressure on the new administration, said Derek Scissors, an economist at data provider China Beige Book International. As of last month, China is awaiting delivery of 292 Boeing jets.

Blocking soybean or other U.S. food exports would prompt action by Republican Senators whose constituents lack a large manufacturing base,

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Beijing also could look to pressure U.S. multinationals such as General Motors Co., which relies on China as its largest sales market. “Some companies that already invest in China, we’re likely to push them to lobby Trump,” Ms. Cheng said.



To retaliate, China also could make use of informal trade barriers—making health claims against American food products, for example—that are highly technical and difficult to counter in the WTO but hurt U.S. exporters, some experts said.



“Even if U.S. companies move back to the U.S., it doesn’t mean manufacturing jobs will come back since U.S. companies will use automation to save money,” said Ms. Cheng

The Chinese are not going to mess around with Trump’s threats, they’re going to respond, and they’re going to respond where it hurts.  The ever Republican farmers who are already suffering low crop prices, are about to learn the lesson that willful ignorance of a candidate and an entire party is going to have a high price.  The same will hold for the white working class in those Midwestern states that ignored the racism, the threats on religion and millions of people, the suffering to millions of others they knew was coming, and instead voted for a “change”, wink wink, nudge nudge.

Before he even takes office, Trump and the GOP have nations around the world getting ready for the chaos that an uninformed electorate, manipulated by attacks from without and within on an antiquated election system, have unleashed on our entire planet.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/22/1613630/-China-Tells-Trump-s-Fools-Want-A-Trade-War-We-ll-Start-By-Targeting-Republican-States
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 24, 2016, 02:44:42 pm
Iranian Cargo Ship Reportedly Destroyed by Rocket Off Yemen

December 23, 2016 by Mike Schuler

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Photo posted by Ansar Burney Trust allegedly showing the attack on an Iranian cargo off Yemen.

Seven people are believed to have been killed in an apparent rocket attack on a Iranian cargo ship in the Red Sea off Yemen, Pakistani sources are reporting.

The Ansar Burney Trust, a human and civil rights organization in Pakistan, posted pictures of the alleged attack on its Facebook page. The organization said, citing its sources, that the Iranian-flagged cargo ship MV Jouya-8 was hit by a rocket and destroyed off Yemen.

All seven missing are reportedly Pakistani nationals. One person is believed to have survived.

“Ansar Burney Trust International has received information through its sources that an unfortunate ship namely “MV JOUYA-8” has been hit by a rocket in Sea of Yemen and reportedly destroyed… so far one Pakistani has managed to survive some how who has managed to swim towards some island,” Ansar Burney said in a statement posted to its Facebook page.

The Pakistani news agency Geo News said the attack occurred Wednesday night as the ship was underway from Egypt to Dubai.

According to AIS information the MV Jouya-8 was built in 1990 and is 58-meters in length and 699 dwt.

The alleged attack comes after several attacks on both civilian and military ships off Yemen in recent months.

gCaptain has been unable to independently verify the details of this week’s attack.
https://gcaptain.com/iranian-cargo-ship-reportedly-destroyed-in-rocket-attack-off-yemen-reports/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 28, 2016, 08:45:06 pm
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November 21, 2016
Wilkerson: If Trump Moves U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, War Against Iran Could Come Next

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson and Paul Jay discuss Trump's foreign policy team and whether it's a continuation of policy under former vice president Dick Cheney


https://youtu.be/1l3sOyGal7o

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=17763

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on December 29, 2016, 05:58:29 pm
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December 26, 2016

Israeli Journalist: The 'Real Landlords' of Israel Are the Settlers


Gideon Levy discusses how the government's preoccupation with a small colony in the occupied West Bank demonstrates the political power of the settler lobby in Israel

https://youtu.be/X0jpveAAgZU

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=18007
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 02, 2017, 11:18:59 pm
December 7, 2016

The People's Tribunal on the Iraq War, Day One: John Kiriakou

On Day 1 of the CODEPINK #IraqTribunal, participants provided testimony on the lies that were used to invade Iraq.

https://youtu.be/aw-LXWf9YCk
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 02, 2017, 11:37:37 pm
December 30, 2016

The People's Tribunal on the Iraq War, Day Two: Stacy Bannerman

On Day 2 of the CODEPINK #IraqTribunal, participants provided testimony on the lies that were used to invade Iraq.

https://youtu.be/eDb8OXqLsJ8

December 13, 2016

The People's Tribunal on the Iraq War, Day One: Janet Gerson

https://youtu.be/0RWPw_930oo
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 03, 2017, 02:05:08 pm
  January 3, 2017

The People's Tribunal on the Iraq War, Day Two: Vince Warren

 On Day 2 of the CODEPINK #IraqTribunal, participants provided testimony on the lies that were used to invade Iraq.

https://youtu.be/_y05xbJEWt4


http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=18048


December 6, 2016

The People's Tribunal on the Iraq War, Day One: Terry K. Rockefeller

 On Day 1 of the CODEPINK #IraqTribunal, participants provided testimony on the lies that were used to invade Iraq.

https://youtu.be/KMw5-CC50BI

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=17864


Cheney and neocon friends DID 9/11 so they could DO IRAQ.

The circumstantial evidence alone ( e. g. see the subsequent PROMOTION of the Naval officer in charge of the Pentagon "incompetent" response to the attacks from the exercises to the positioning of fighter jets on 911) is enough to remove any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon had EVERYTHING to do with coordinating AND EXECUTING the attacks. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-241013183046.jpeg)

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Everything published by the U.S. Government about 9/11 so far is total BULLSHIT. And the latest U.S.  official response to the lobbied push for transparency by brave individuals like Terry K. Rockefeller is probably what is known in Intelligence circles as a "limited hang out". This is done several years after the event (the same thing was done with the JFK assassination) BECAUSE the government has been unsuccessful in bullshitting we-the-people to the point that parents are telling their kids that what they are being taught abut 9/11 in the history textbooks is not to be taken seriously, especially if any of them want to be architects, engineers or anyone that needs to study physics and materials science.

SO, the gooberment Propaganda TOOLS spin the story AGAIN with a pretense of a search for truth. The Government will NEVER officially admit Mens Rea complicity in the planning and execution of 9/11.

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ONLY the M.I.C. HAS ACCESS to NANO-THERMITE!

https://youtu.be/ezIU6ZxYU3A

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"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- Aldous Huxley

The Gooberment ADMITTED ONE TRUTH (among many lies), in those NIST WTC 7 "studies" that the idiots who believe the government BS are so fond of quoting; I.E. they DID NOT LOOK FOR nano (or any other kind of) Thermite.

If you have feet of clay, and you don't want to ADMIT you have feet of clay, the only thing to do is to not look for clay. It's the only logical way for the murdering liars who did this state sponsored terrorism to cover their ass. IOW, the dog ate their lunch. Nothing to see, move along.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714191329.bmp)

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Limited Hang Out DEFINITION:

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A limited hangout or partial hangout is, according to former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Victor Marchetti, "spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further."[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 04, 2017, 06:47:22 pm
Agelbert NOTE: Cheney, the REAL 911 mastermind, proceded to cash in on that false flag "Pearl Harbor" by invading Iraq, no matter what even the military said!  :o  >:(

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https://youtu.be/pdJl4buyoUA

Iraq War a War Crime - Pushed by Cheney Over Objections of Joint Chiefs

John Kiriakou on RAI(7/10)

Published on May 7, 2015

On Reality Asserts Itself, former CIA official Mr. Kiriakou says that VP Cheney chaired a morning phone call where the Joint Chiefs and CIA openly argued against the invasion of Iraq - a decision made in the summer of 2002.

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 05, 2017, 08:10:06 pm
January 5, 2017

Moving US Embassy to Jerusalem Would Be a Dangerous Provocation

The Trump administration might make a historic break with US policy and draw international outrage by following through on its rhetoric, warns New Internationalism director Phyllis Bennis

https://youtu.be/Kk68p1dAB_c

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=18069
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 06, 2017, 06:09:31 pm
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In Syria, Western Media  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-241013183046.jpeg) Cheer Al Qaeda  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/pirates5B15D_th.gif)

Thursday, 05 January 2017 11:05

SNIPPET:

I’m still haunted by what I saw at Al-Razi Hospital in what was then government-held West Aleppo. I watched as one ambulance after another dropped off civilians wounded by rebel mortars fired into residential neighborhoods around the clock. Medical staff quickly went to work on a man whose chest was pierced by a piece of twisted metal. A frantic woman lingered close by, shouting, “He’s the only son I have left!” The man was soon pronounced dead and the woman collapsed in agony.

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A boy mourns outside the morgue in West Aleppo after his father was killed by rebel mortars. (photo: Rania Khalek)

Down a crowded hall, 10-year-old Fateh stood on a blood-smeared floor, crying beside a gurney where his 15-year-old brother, Mohammad, was lying. Blood had soaked through the bandage on his leg, but the medical staff was too busy with more life-threatening injuries to take notice. The boys were lucky to be alive. They had been moving furniture out of the house with their younger cousins earlier in the day when they were struck by rebel mortars. Their 6-year-old cousin, a girl, was in the ICU. Their 4-year-old cousin, a boy, had been killed.

Across the street, grieving families waited outside the morgue to identify the bodies of their recently deceased loved ones. A group of sobbing children explained to me how they had watched their father die that morning from the balcony of their apartment. A rebel mortar struck him as he was parking his car. Meanwhile, a shell-shocked father told me his 10-year-old son was shot and killed by a sniper while fetching water on the roof.

A grief-stricken woman, mourning the loss of her husband, cursed the government for not hitting the rebels—or “terrorists,” in her words—hard enough. Her family members agreed, complaining that the Syrian government was being too soft on the armed groups that they blamed for destroying their city.

Underneath all the grief and calls for revenge was exhaustion. After five years of war, these people were tired. I didn’t meet a single Syrian in the government areas I visited who hadn’t lost friends and family since the war started. But their suffering, with a few minor exceptions, has been largely disappeared from Western media, probably because the people most responsible for it are supported by the West.

Even those who expressed disapproval of Russia’s involvement in their country told me they hold the US and its regional allies—Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey—most responsible for the disintegration of their country.


These sentiments totally contradict one of US media’s most pernicious lies—that US inaction allowed the bloodshed in Syria to continue with impunity.


“Many thousands of people have been killed in Aleppo…but Washington shrugs,” lamented the New York Times (12/14/16). “The United States’ inaction in Syria has transformed our country into nothing other than a bystander to the greatest atrocity of our time,” complained Leon Wieseltier in the Washington Post (12/15/16).

But Washington has intervened (FAIR.org, 10/1/15)—and by doing so, it prolonged the bloodshed and empowered Al Qaeda.


Full DETAILED article: (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/reading.gif)


http://www.therealnews.com/t2/component/content/article/3011

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Sine Qua Non Plutocratic Ruling Principle: "The people must always be provided with an enemy".
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 10, 2017, 08:09:54 pm
Originally POSTED Sep 11, 2012:
This being 9/11, I've decided to let the Diners in on some knowledge I have as a former air traffic controller that convinced me it was an inside job within a day or so of the event. The tip-off for me was the Pentagon.

I aired this knowledge on the Huffington Post years later (I think it was in 2005) when she finally couldn't censor comments on it because an article was written on the subject by some movie star or writer (AFTER Arianna had denied Jesse Ventura the freedom to write on 9/11 at hufpo). An army of Hasbara assholes were out in force (you could tell they were A. not Americans by their writing and B. They had all these cartoon character avatars). I took one of them apart piece by piece and he ended up asking me where I lived. 

I got a little more aggressive in my comments and, of course, they were censored.

So what do I know? Washington D.C. is wall to wall radar AND is a prohibited area. That means you fly in and out of Reagan International on a VERY specific route along the Potomac (River route). The "excuse" that the Tracon (tower radar approach control) was  "out of communication" with the "outside world" was the most outlandish piece of bullshit I have ever heard. Remember, THAT was the reason given for them not communicating with the Air Force to scramble jets (in this case jets were ALREADY in the air being sent to the wrong areas). 

Potomac Tracon (terminal radar approach control) controls the approach of all aircraft coming into Reagan International and several other area major airports. Potomac Tracon is 33 miles west southwest of Reagan and the Pentagon. There is no way in God's good Earth that ANY lack of communications occurred between them and Reagan Tower. There are about SIX levels of redundancy in communications from several transmitters on dedicated frequencies, back up transmitters and receivers on each frequency to fiber optic land lines that provide voice and remote radar data from the overlaying artcc (enroute radar traffic control center 10,000 feet and above) to satellite feed backups for everything. There are multiple lines to various Air Force Bases around with INDEPENDENT systems for a fail safe operation in case of nuclear missile attack.

Washington Center was tracking the aircraft headed for the DC area. The false generated targets from NORAD exercises is total bullshit because NORAD doesn't work airplanes! Air traffic controllers work airplanes! And we know damned good and well what a computer generated false target looks like. I trained people and ran the target generator scenarios myself as a training department instructor during the late 70s. Now they've got LCD displays and then we had CRT (cathode ray tube) round scopes but the radar and computer operation to translate a primary (no transponder to give altitude data) target to a data bock with speed and direction has not changed. I could NOT, as an instructor generating targets to make my students sweat, generate those targets onto an active display. All training targets have a "T" on the data block anyway. NO ONE in atc was confused due to "exercises".

About the 9/11 post, back in 2012

I was just reading the Surly1 post and decided to reply as an extemporaneous thing. I had no plans to do so. I went round and round with my brother controllers (all retired) after 9/11 and they shoved their heads straight into the sand as quickly as possible but they KNEW! Like you say, EVERYBODY KNOWS. Well, they knew and just didn't want to talk about it. I told you before one of them was CIA from Vietnam (flew for Air America). That shithead posted a big flashy photo display of how "they"(Ay-rabs) attacked America. It was very professionally done. Said a "friend of his" prepared it. Uh uh...  This same guy that appeared to be "mourning" was inordinately bubbly and said in an e-mail how he probably had run into Mohammad Atta at the flight school near Fort Myers, Florida he frequented. The flight school is at an airport that was one of the ones the CIA used during the IRAN-Contra caper run by Oliver North to fly drugs into the USA and weapons out to the contras. Chucky ended up giving me the finger because I asked him too many pointed questions.  :icon_mrgreen:

Chucky was famous for using FAA telephone lines to run query software at night (while he was home) to check every bulletin board and CompuServe fax outlet looking for freebee programs to download on the tax payer dime. The weasel would then claim they were "his" software! Him and his stupid TRS-80 Radio Shack piece of crapola. :laughing6:

The day after he transferred out we reformatted the hard drive to kill all his spy software on the IBM PC with windows 3 (I believe). What a slippery thief that guy was. But I digress. 9/11 has a very sick inertia because a very large group of otherwise decent people just doing their job are forced to keep quiet about a huge crime. Later on, if they decide they want to talk, they fear doing so because they will have to admit that they kept quite about it for several years. The top dogs know this and know they can DO IT AGAIN because everyone that remained mum the first time is now an accessory.  Mafia tactics by our fascist gooberment. :(


Back to 9/11
, the twin towers had been hit and every atc facility and their mothers knew that aircraft had hit (at the management level within minutes - less than 15). At the controller level, you can be sure the people in Washington Center were told by controllers from Boston center and New York center that some hijackings were in progress BEFORE the planes hit the towers. Next you have this primary target (no transponder to give altitude data - just some moving object that provides a radar return above 50 mph) headed towards the DC prohibited area. Immediately Washington Center tells Potomac Tracon who, in turn, tells Reagan Tower. This must be done because no altitude info is available so you don't know who's airspace this NORDO (NO RADIO) potential hijack is going to violate in the capital.

But here's the kicker. We HAD TO routinely save two weeks of radar tracking data with a 100% accurate record of air traffic movements in case a loss of separation standards had occurred (known in atc parlance as a "deal" that you could get disciplined and possibly fired for). Controllers don't report "deals" unless they can't avoid it unless it was a near mid-air collision, the pilots saw each other and are screaming bloody murder. Again, the guy/gal on position normally is not being monitored by a sup so they cross their fingers. The pilots land and call the facility or wait a few days to do it. Sometimes they don't bother. If they do, your  sup tells the training department to pull the voice tapes (also saved for two weeks) and the radar data to see if you went below minimum separation standards. You, the controller, are required to write up a statement summarizing the events. The controller knows his goose is cooked here so he doesn't dare lie.

When the "aircraft" that hit the pentagon performed it's impossible maneuver of a descending 360 degree spiraling turn at around 500 mph the tower radar recorded the track and the speed, Potomac Tracon recorded the track and the  speed and Washington center recorded the track and the speed.

The paltry visuals the Pentagon released of a MISSLE striking the pentagon was blatantly obvious to me. I'm very experienced in seeing planes fly near buildings; they move MUCH slower than that. It was a missile. All they had to do in ATC was look at those radar tracking tapes.

A missile has 1,000 mph or greater velocity. The thing that hit the Pentagon was moving a lot faster than 500 mph. It's on the radar data. If the RADAR TRACKING  data from THREE INDEPENDENT ATC FACILITIES was destroyed, that is undeniable proof that Donald Rumsfeld and Cheney ran an inside job, PERIOD.  Guess what? When I mentioned the radar data on hufpo the Hasbara dude asked where I lived.

But there is more. A B767 is, as you know, is an airplane  ;D. Airplanes have a limitation in flight. The turning radius is a function of the bank angle and speed.

That means that the faster you go, the steeper you need to bank the airplane in order to keep your turn radius, as in a 500 mph jet, from being several miles in radius (if you are turning 360 degrees as was the case on 9/11).

Missles are not airplanes and don't have this problem because they use vectored thrust, not bank angle, to control turning radius.

The 360 degree banked turn the alleged B767 executed in a descending spiral to smack the Pentagon was NOT possible for a B767 at that speed due to the stresses the required bank angle would have on the aircraft (look ma, no wings!).

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More bank angle equals more wing loading. At 60 degrees the pilot feels two G forces and the wings weigh twice as much  as in level flight.

In any aircraft from a piper cub to a B747, when you exceed 60 degrees of banked turn, you are pulling 2 Gs plus on the entire aircraft structure. Above 60 degrees, the Gs increase exponentially. Aerobatic aircraft require plus or minus 6 G strength for FAA certification.

Commercial jet liners lose their wings (B767 max allowed plus 2.5 Gs and minus 1.0 G to avoid structural damage) trying to keep a 70 or 80 degree bank angle at 500 mph in a descending spiral needed to cover the track the government says was traversed to smack the Pentagon.

Only a missile or a fighter aircraft with a missile ready to fire could do that.   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/301.gif)

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Impossible G forces for a B767

As a matter of fact you COULD beef up the wings of a B767  DRONE to do this maneuver (the only possible scenario in the second twin tower strike due to speed and turn rate). However, at the Pentagon, the hole was too small. It was a missile.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 15, 2017, 04:50:58 pm
https://youtu.be/hhH1KsMyDT4

JFK, Obama, and the Unspeakable

Published on Jul 26, 2015

Religion professor James Douglass tells why Jack Kennedy was killed -- the Bay of Pigs, the fight with the US steel industry, the Cuban missile crisis, and, especially, Kennedy's secret correspondence with the supreme enemy, Russian Premier Khrushchev, about their mutual desire to avoid nuclear disaster by ending the Cold War.

Douglass contends that the same forces within the US government that killed Kennedy are present still, and that their removal of JFK gives strong warning against initiating a non-war economy and a foreign policy based on cooperation and peace.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 23, 2017, 08:32:32 pm
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Iraqis are furious over Trump's claim that America will 'maybe' get another chance to take their oil 

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By Hunter   

Monday Jan 23, 2017 ·  5:17 PM EST

SNIPPET:

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“There’s no way Trump could take the oil unless he launched a new military front and it be a new world war,” said Kareem Kashekh, a photographer who works for the Popular Mobilization Units, a new branch of Iraq’s armed forces consisting of former militiamen and volunteers fighting against ISIS.

“He cannot do it. He cannot succeed,” said Dawoud Ali, a 30-year-old Baghdad resident and a member of Ansar al-Aghida, one of the Shiite militias fighting against ISIS. “Of course I would fight the Americans if they came for the oil.”

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/23/1624184/-Iraqis-are-furious-over-Trump-s-claim-that-America-will-maybe-get-another-chance-to-take-their-oil (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/23/1624184/-Iraqis-are-furious-over-Trump-s-claim-that-America-will-maybe-get-another-chance-to-take-their-oil)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 24, 2017, 05:01:56 pm
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“We as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values… when machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism and militarism are incapable of being conquered.” -- Martin Luther King, Jr. April 4, 1967

"maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.

https://youtu.be/zXEIYpnlxbw

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 26, 2017, 06:08:35 pm
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Vermonters of good will are VERY ANGRY at Trump's latest RACIST empathy deficit disordered action.


Trump ready to close door on refugees bound for Rutland
Jan. 25, 2017, 6:33 pm by Adam Federman and Jasper Craven

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Vermont Refugee Resettlement Program Director Amila Merdzanovic, left, and Stacie Blake, director of government and community relations at the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants, speak at a meeting in Rutland. File photo by Elizabeth Hewitt/VTDigger


SNIPPET:

For members of Rutland Welcomes — a group that has organized to support Syrian refugee resettlement — the news of the president’s order was devastating.

“We’re really disappointed,” said Hunter Berryhill, a spokesperson for the group. Berryhill described the suspension of the program as “unjust, inhumane, shortsighted and heartless.”

Trump derives his power to unilaterally freeze immigration for broad blocs of people from section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. That law allows the president to curtail immigration of certain groups on various grounds, including national security and terrorism concerns.

https://vtdigger.org/2017/01/25/trump-ready-to-close-door-on-refugees-bound-for-rutland/


EXCELLENT COMMENT by Rob Williams!


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Rob Williams

The one word solution to this federal/imperial overreach? NULLIFICATION.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png) The Vermont legislature can declare the Trump administration’s executive order to be “null and void” within the borders of our Green Mountains, and bring the Syrian refugees here as we have been planning to do for months.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)

Both constitutional and historical precedent are on our side  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif) – see Vermont’s 1858 nullification of the Fugitive Slave Act as one example.

I hope our elected legislators will have the foresight and courage to consider this option.

Free Vermont, and long live the UNtied States!   (http://cliparts.co/cliparts/Big/Egq/BigEgqBMT.png)

Agelbert NOTE: Please, spare me any babbling about Federal Law "pre-emption"  and a Republican Supine Supreme Court. In the case of Executive Orders, State Rights CAN override them LEGALLY (NO, the Civil War WAS NOT about State's Rights!). 


Here's another powerfully truthful comment:
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Patty Smith

The military industrial complex dictates US foreign policy for profit. US foreign policy creates terrorists through regime change and illegal covert activities. Then US immigration policy bans victims of US aggression from seeking asylum. It’s no wonder the US is considered the greatest threat to world peace.

Yet the American people continue to be blind to the connection between our “strong military” and global instability.

Both major parties are to blame and so are the majority of the American people who continue to march blindly to the drumbeat of war.


Sadly, the bigots also commented with their typical doubletalk and closet racist comments disguised as, "We gotta take care of our own first" crocodile tears. Selfish, racist people always use duplicity to disguise their lack of compassion for fellow humans and other life forms in the biosphere. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183312.bmp)

I will post just one of these comments, which was countered by a Vermonter of good will.

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michael olcott 

a good person doesnt take food from their own to feed their neighbor when both are starving. im so glad that all who feel as you do and Mayor Chris Louras have managed to eliminate the homeless and all other poverty related issues down there,oh wait we need to take care of our own people first before we bring others that would consume our resources. (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg)


Richard M Roderick  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gif)

I don’t think resources are being diverted. The United States, Vermont and Rutland have the ability to take care of the number of refugees that are coming and take care of our own citizens. It often just lacks the political will. We are a country of immigrants. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 26, 2017, 07:19:42 pm
Keith Olbermann thinks Trump is nuts. I think Trump is a megalomaniac, but I don't think he is off his rocker. That said, I agree with Olbermann that Trump's actions lately certainly have not been rational. The video aside, it has been fascinating since the election to watch the right wingers try to imagine Trump's actions as "reflecting a reasoned approach." (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2932.gif) The straw grasping attempts by the right wingers to give legitimacy to that POS POTUS are pathetic. But I'm sure the "greed is good" crowd will keep trying celebrate their megalomaniac leader.   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/budo.gif)   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/245.gif)

A Plea to Trump Fans: This Man Is Dangerous (http://video.gq.com/watch/the-closer-with-keith-olbermann-a-plea-to-trump-fans-this-man-is-dangerous)

 
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Welcome to the Resistance, practical guide to what we all can do now for America

Should We Give Trump a Chance? (http://video.gq.com/watch/should-we-give-trump-a-chance)

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 27, 2017, 04:26:20 pm
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Doomsday Clock Now Two and a Half Minutes to Midnight, Thanks to Trump

By Deirdre Fulton

Common Dreams  Jan. 26, 2017 06:53PM EST

The symbolic Doomsday Clock inched closer to midnight on Thursday and we have President Donald Trump largely to thank for the ominous development.

At the National Press Club in Washington, DC on Thursday morning, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists' Science and Security Board moved the hands of the iconic clock 30 seconds closer to "midnight" or the end of the world.
For the first time in the 70-year history of the clock, "the board has decided to act, in part, based on the words of a single person: Donald Trump, the new President of the United States," according to a press statement.

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The nuclear danger of a Trump presidency, combined with his and his administration's climate denialism, heighten the risk of a global catastrophe, the group warned.
"As we marked the 70th anniversary of the Doomsday Clock, this year's Clock deliberations felt more urgent than usual," said Rachel Bronson, executive director and publisher of the bulletin. "In addition to the existential threats posed by nuclear weapons and climate change, new global realities emerged, as trusted sources of information came under attack, fake news was on the rise and words were used by a President-elect of the United States in cavalier and often reckless ways to address the twin threats of nuclear weapons and climate change."

A further statement from the full board noted that the development comes even as Trump had only held office for a few days.

"Just the same, words matter and President Trump has had plenty to say over the last year," it read. "Both his statements and his actions as President-elect have broken with historical precedent in unsettling ways. He has made ill-considered comments about expanding the U.S. nuclear arsenal. He has shown a troubling propensity to discount or outright reject expert advice related to international security, including the conclusions of intelligence experts. And his nominees to head the Energy Department and the Environmental Protection Agency dispute the basics of climate science. In short, even though he has just now taken office, the president's intemperate statements, lack of openness to expert advice and questionable cabinet nominations have already made a bad international security situation worse."

Agelbert NOTE: Trumplethinskin supporters will find the video in the following link to be "disrespectful" of El Presidente. Trumpers may even claim it's a "media hatchet job from clueless" people. Unfortunately for these deluded followers of Trump, it is rather difficult to associate cluelessness with the SCIENTISTS on this board. So all I can say to the Trumpers is, good luck demonizing serious scientists.

We-the-honest-people are all watching you lying propagandists wailing and moaning about "negative" news against your dear leader. Go back to your KKK headquarters and give Bannon a call and request a new "strategy". THIS STRATEGY:  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/tissue.gif)(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shame.gif) (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/165fs373950.gif), now that "give Trump a chance"  (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg) has been exposed as total BS, is ALSO not going to help your racist, fascist cause at all.   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/budo.gif)  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2rzukw3.gif)

http://www.ecowatch.com/doomsday-clock-trump-2216983060.html

But then again, I'm sure you Trumplethinskin supporters will get a Fascist General or two to rally to your mendacious and duplicitous propaganda pitch. But you will not fool absolutely anyone with critical thinking skills.  ;D

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 28, 2017, 04:18:54 pm
Agelbert NOTE: I wish to take this opportunity to thank El Presidente Trump for his recent amazing single handed  achievement! (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/za4.gif) Trump is responsible for the most successful action resulting in radically improving the health of Mexicans in the last 40 years (AT LEAST!) (http://www.coh2.org/images/Smileys/huhsign.gif) NOW you KNOW what Trump meant when he said "everyone would be covered" in his health care plan!

Of course, uh, he may not see it that way  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png), especially when his corporate friends lose their profit arse in Latin America.   ;D

God works in mysterious ways. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif) God can even get Trump to do some good!  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)
I invite all Americans to follow the prudent healthy Mexican example of boycotting corporations that sell stuff that harms your health and/or you wallet.    (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/balloons.gif)

Now for you Trumpers who may disagree with those "over excited" Mexicans, I'm sure you can drum up a Tea Party style twist to justify the Red Blooded American boycott of these corporations by just claiming they are all traitors because they "took jobs to Mexico!"... (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/301.gif)   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4fvfcja.gif)

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Print up a lot of posters like the above to ALERT red blooded patriotic Americans about all those Nabisco goodies jobs that went to Mexico! And we need to start growing our own bananas and Avocados too! USA! USA! USA!  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Banane21.gif) ;D

Oh, and never mind that Illegal immigration crossings into the US from Mexico are at a 40 YEAR LOW. Listen to Trump and K-Dog! Build that WALL! What's 15 billion dollars in extra taxpayer money when Trump is gonna provide "all those jobs", eh? Trust Trump, he'll get it outta dem Mexicans real, real soon. But, uh, for now, Americans gotta "temporarily" PAY for what El Presidente said Mexico was gonna pay for...  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-280515145049.png) (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)
 

Mexicans protest Trump with massive boycott of U.S. companies Walmart, McDonalds, Coke, Starbucks...   

By Leslie Salzillo   

Saturday Jan 28, 2017 ·  1:19 AM EST


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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/27/1626276/-Mexicans-begin-boycotts-American-companies-in-protest-of-Donald-Trump

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 28, 2017, 10:38:40 pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-28/soon-there-could-be-only-49-states-america (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-28/soon-there-could-be-only-49-states-america)
Soon There Could Be Only 49 States In America
Jan 28, 2017
Submitted by Carey Wedler via TheAntiMedia.org, (http://theantimedia.org/49-states-america-california-succession/)
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Activists in California have just taken an integral step that could leave America with only 49 states in the near future. Yes California, a pro-secession organization, received approval Thursday to begin collecting signatures from residents to put “Calexit” on the ballot for a 2019 special election.

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Yes California has been working toward secession for some time (http://www.yescalifornia.org/blog?page=2), but with President Donald Trump’s election last year, their efforts gained momentum as frustrated residents questioned their willingness to bow down to a president they don’t support. According to a poll (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-california-secession-idUSKBN1572KB) conducted by Reuters/Ipsos this month, nearly one in three supports secession — a sharp uptick from a similar survey conducted in 2014. With secession becoming a viable alternative, it’s possible that support may continue to grow.

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We'll just take our avocados and legal weed and go#CalExit (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CalExit?src=hash) #CalifrEXIT (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CalifrEXIT?src=hash)
— beea ???? (@LeasLame) November 9, 2016 (https://twitter.com/LeasLame/status/796274680684363776)

The organization submitted (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-california-secession-calexit-htmlstory.html) their ballot proposal to California’s state government in November, and on Thursday, California Secretary of State Alex Padilla gave them the green light (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-california-secession-calexit-htmlstory.html) to begin collecting signatures. They need (http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/316461-supporters-of-calexit-movement-can-begin-collecting-signatures-to) 585,407 people to sign their petition by July 25. If they succeed, the referendum will make it onto the 2018 ballot. If it passes, the state will hold a special election the following year. The Sacramento Bee reports (http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article129047749.html):

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The proposed measure would strike language from the California Constitution defining the state as ‘an inseparable part of the United States of America, and the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land.’ If it passed, there would be a statewide special election in March 2019 to ask voters if they want California to become an independent country.”

Many Americans often joke about California leaving the union, highlighting how wildly different residents of the Golden State are from those of America’s heartland. Indeed, Yes California appears to agree.

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America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” Marcus Ruiz Evans, one of the group’s founders, told (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-coming-to-a-clipboard-near-you-1485483444-htmlstory.html) the Los Angeles Times. “I think we’d have the votes today if we held it.”
In a recent post on their website announcing their progress, they wrote (http://www.yescalifornia.org/):

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“In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children.

It’s understandable why secession has become a proposed solution considering California has long struggled with many systemic problems. As Yes California points out:

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Although charity is part of our culture, when you consider that California’s infrastructure is falling apart, our public schools are ranked among the worst in the entire country, we have the highest number of homeless persons living without shelter and other basic necessities, poverty rates remain high, income inequality continues to expand, and we must often borrow money from the future to provide services for today, now is not the time for charity.

Though Yes California points out practical reasons for secession, they also argue the underlying justification for their movement from a philosophical standpoint:

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However, this independence referendum is about more than California subsidizing (http://www.yescalifornia.org/what_america_costs_california) other states of this country,” they write. “It is about the right to self-determination and the concept of voluntary association, both of which are supported by constitutional and international law.

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It is about California taking its place in the world, standing as an equal among nations. We believe in two fundamental truths: (1) California exerts a positive influence on the rest of the world, and (2) California could do more good as an independent country than it is able to do as just a U.S. state.”

California has the sixth largest economy (http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/26/kevin-de-leon/does-california-really-have-sixth-largest-economy-/) in the world, bolstered by the film industry, Silicon Valley, agriculture, and the state’s biggest cash crop (http://www.alternet.org/drugs/california-six-largest-cash-crops-marijuana-monster) — cannabis — which voters legalized in November.

While the practical and philosophical reasons for secession are compelling, it’s doubtful many residents are looking beyond President Donald Trump. California leans heavily to the left, and Democrats hold a supermajority (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-democrats-nab-a-supermajority-after-1480383488-htmlstory.html) in both houses of the state legislature. California was largely responsible (http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/popular-vote-results-2016-clinton-trump-2012-2008-vs-electoral-college-california-uncounted-ballots-new-york-update-totals-final/) for Hillary Clinton’s popular vote victory.
Further, though Yes California stresses the importance of voluntary association, it’s doubtful an independent California government would ask taxpayers what programs they’d like to fund. Ultimately, though California as a country would certainly be beneficial for decentralization and localization efforts, it would operate as a government and, as such, force Californians to participate.

Nevertheless, the movement reflects undeniable divisions within the United States, especially in the era of Donald Trump. Other states are also eyeing secession, including Texas, Washington, and Oregon.

As Anti-Media observed (http://theantimedia.org/trump-presidency-cause-secession/) shortly after the election:
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People are rioting and protesting over Trump’s win throughout California (http://abc7.com/news/anti-trump-protests-form-across-state-after-election-results/1597889/) but celebrating in Alabama (http://whnt.com/2016/11/09/toomers-corner-rolled-in-celebration-of-trump-win/), and against the backdrop of an ever-encroaching federal government, it appears these differences are growing difficult to reconcile.”



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-28/california-threatens-cut-funds-washington (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-28/california-threatens-cut-funds-washington)
California Threatens To Cut Off Funds To Washington
Tyler Durden
Jan 28, 2017

With secession threats looming, the state of California is reportedly studying ways to suspend financial transfers to Washington after the Trump administration threatened to withhold federal money from sanctuary cities.

With California counties among the Top 10 who stand to lose tax-payer funding for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants...

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KPIX5 reports that officials are looking for money that flows through Sacramento to the federal government that could be used to offset the potential loss of billions of dollars’ worth of federal funds if President Trump makes good on his threat to punish cities and states that don’t cooperate with federal agents’ requests to turn over undocumented immigrants, a senior government source in Sacramento said.

The federal funds pay for a variety of state and local programs from law enforcement to homeless shelters.

    “California could very well become an organized non-payer,” said Willie Brown, Jr, a former speaker of the state Assembly in an interview recorded Friday for KPIX 5’s Sunday morning news.

    “They could recommend non-compliance with the federal tax code.”

California is among a handful of so-called “donor states,” which pay more in taxes to the federal Treasury than they receive in government funding.

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 29, 2017, 09:37:48 pm
Agelbert NOTE: Over the centuries, as the leaders in human civilization increasingly pursued privilege over principle, this rampant increase in elite human iniquity resulted in massive, unjust and totally unnecessary human inequity.

I present this article to readers in order to educate them on how we have been propagandized to believe Capitalism is "good" because it "creates wealth". This flawed world view is analyzed and exposed as folly. The key is the flawed assumptions about WHY poverty exists, WHY wealth exists and WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP between the two IS.

SNIPPET:

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We noted this in the article we published here a few weeks ago, "4 Things You Probably Know About Poverty that Bill and Melinda Gates Don’t," and it rubbed many people the wrong way. It’s understandable that this feels counterintuitive at first because it seems to defy basic logic. Wealth is something, and poverty is nothing. Wealth is the outcome of action, so it must follow that poverty is what exists before or in the absence of action. In other words, poverty must be a default state. Right?

The problem with this intuitive theory of poverty is that it ignores context—from the quality of education, to race and gender privilege, to physical and mental health, to luck and coincidence and much more. Even more important than all that, though, is the fact that it pretends that what happened yesterday has no bearing on today. When it comes to the global economic system and issues of mass poverty, the all-important yesterday is measured in decades and centuries. If we don’t understand this long view, we don’t really understand anything.

Why is all this so important? Because it is impossible to solve an entrenched problem like mass poverty without understanding how it came into being. There’s every reason to believe we can overcome poverty, if we take the time to understand and learn the lessons from how it is created.

Here are just three ways mass poverty has been created.



3 Ways Humans Create Poverty

Poverty isn't just a fact of nature. We made it happen, and we can fix it.

https://www.fastcoexist.com/3043284/3-ways-humans-create-poverty (https://www.fastcoexist.com/3043284/3-ways-humans-create-poverty)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 29, 2017, 11:32:07 pm
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The President of the United States Explicitly Endorses Torture — a Crime Against Humanity

Alex Emmons

January 27 2017, 5:12 p.m.

Even George W. Bush called torture abhorrent.

“Freedom from torture is an inalienable human right, and we are committed to building a world where human rights are respected and protected by the rule of law,” he wrote on the UN International Day in Support of Victims of Torture in 2004.

Bush’s words were outrageously insincere and hypocritical, considering that his administration brutally tortured hundreds of captives in the war on terror, referring to it euphemistically as “enhanced interrogation.”

But in his first week as president, Donald Trump won’t stop telling the world that he approves of torture, thumbing his nose at a basic international norm of legality and decency.

What is entirely unprecedented is his willingness to use the word “torture” — a crime by definition — while openly defending it.

Trump conceded on Friday that he will defer to his defense secretary, retired Gen. James Mattis, who holds a contrary opinion. But in doing so, he reiterated his personal support for torture.

Mattis “has stated publicly that he does not necessarily believe in torture or waterboarding or however you want to define it — enhanced interrogation I guess would be a word that a lot of — words that a lot of people would like to use,” Trump said at a joint press conference with U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May. “I don’t necessarily agree, but I would tell you that he will override because I’m giving him that power.”

Trump continued: “I happen to feel that it does work. I’ve been open about that for a long period of time. But I am going with our leaders. And we’re going to — we’re going to win with or without, but I do disagree.”

Trump told ABC News Wednesday that he asked “people at the highest levels of intelligence” whether torture works. “I asked them the question, “Does it work? Does torture work,” said Trump. “And the answer was, “Yes, absolutely.”

Multiple federal laws establish “torture” as a punishable crime. The 1996 War Crimes Act punishes any “grave breach” of the Geneva conventions, including “torture.” The 1994 U.S. anti-torture statute says that someone who “commits or attempts to commit torture” can be punished by a 20-year prison sentence. And the UN Convention Against Torture, which the U.S. ratified in 1994, says “no exceptional circumstances whatsoever … may be invoked as a justification of torture.” The charter for the International Criminal Court calls it a “crime against humanity” when conducted on civilians, and a “war crime” in the context of war.

Bush and former Vice President Dick Cheney went to outrageous lengths to deny that what they practiced amounted to torture. In one widely-discredited memo, for example, the Bush Justice Department argued that in order to constitute torture, pain inflicted on captives had to rise “to the level of death, organ failure, or the permanent impairment of a significant body function” — a standard that they argued allowed for keeping detainees naked in near-freezing temperatures, handcuffing them in an uncomfortable standing position for up to 40 hours; prolonged sleep deprivation; and waterboarding — an iconic form of torture since the Spanish Inquisition.

President Reagan — sanctified by today’s Republicans — signed and advocated for the UN Convention Against Torture. In his letter to Congress urging its ratification, Reagan described “torture” as “an abhorrent practice unfortunately still prevalent in the world today.”

Trump has said that he will defer to Mattis. But on Wednesday the New York Times and Washington Post published a draft executive order that would pave the way for reopening the CIA’s secret prisons, or “black sites.” The draft order was widely interpreted as a precursor to possibly restarting torture, and senators from both parties condemned it.

Trump’s statements are certainly having one effect: They hurt the global effort to combat torture, which relies on international pressure from credible nations. Leaders from monarchies, dictatorships, and human rights violators will quickly realize they can practice torture without drawing condemnation from the leader of the free world.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/27/the-president-of-the-united-states-explicitly-endorses-torture-a-crime-against-humanity/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 30, 2017, 08:16:47 pm

Suspect in Quebec mosque terror attack was of Moroccan origin, reports show
Published January 30, 2017


"  .... One of two gunmen who shouted 'Allahu akbar!' as they opened fire at a mosque in Quebec City was of Moroccan origin."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html)

I was surprised by the suspects being Muslim.  I know the different sects have wars with one another in the middle East. This is the first I've heard of Muslim on Muslim mass violence in North America.

Of course, a suspect is simply that -- a suspect.   I just find this strange.

I don't believe for a second that the Quebec shooting was anything but a right wing attack spurred by Trump's Crusade against Muslims. It is expected that certain elements in the media will try to flip this into a demonization of Muslims. The Quebec terrorism is only the beginning of the massive racist right wing hate crimes that Trump and his evil supporters have unleashed.

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 31, 2017, 05:28:03 pm
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Suspect in Quebec mosque terror attack was of Moroccan origin, reports show
Published January 30, 2017


"  .... One of two gunmen who shouted 'Allahu akbar!' as they opened fire at a mosque in Quebec City was of Moroccan origin."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html)

I was surprised by the suspects being Muslim.  I know the different sects have wars with one another in the middle East. This is the first I've heard of Muslim on Muslim mass violence in North America.

Of course, a suspect is simply that -- a suspect.   I just find this strange.

I don't believe for a second that the Quebec shooting was anything but a right wing attack spurred by Trump's Crusade against Muslims. It is expected that certain elements in the media will try to flip this into a demonization of Muslims. The Quebec terrorism is only the beginning of the massive racist right wing hate crimes that Trump and his evil supporters have unleashed.

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Agelbert NOTE:
I was RIGHT! President Trump, Fox News AND ALL TRUMP supporters have BLOOD on their hands! (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)

By Walter Einenkel   

Monday Jan 30, 2017 ·  3:40 PM EST


FOX News (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013200859.png) quickly reports on Moroccan Muslim 'suspect' in Mosque shooting (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TzWpwHzCvCI/T_sBEnhCCpI/AAAAAAAAME8/IsLpuU8HYxc/s1600/nooo-way-smiley.gif) — it was a white nationalist   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-120716190938.png)
 

SNIPPET:

When a suspect or suspects were originally being reported as having been captured by Canadian police, Fox News quickly went to work doing what they do best—lying and being hateful.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/30/1627553/-FOX-News-quickly-reports-on-Moroccan-Muslim-suspect-in-Mosque-shooting-it-was-a-white-nationalist
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on January 31, 2017, 08:04:22 pm
Saudi Warship Attacked in Red Sea Off Yemen

January 30, 2017 by Reuters 

ReutersSANAA, Jan 30 (Reuters) – Houthi militants attacked a Saudi warship with three boats off the western coast of Yemen on Monday, causing an explosion that killed two crew members and injured three others, Saudi state news agency SPA reported.

“A Saudi frigate on patrol west of Hodeidah port came under attack from three suicide boats belonging to the Houthi militias,” the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen said in a statement on SPA.

One of the boats collided with the rear of the vessel, causing an explosion and a fire that killed two crew members, the statement said, without specifying their nationality.

Three others were injured and in a stable condition. The fire was put out by crew.

The Iran-allied Houthi group that controls Yemen’s capital claimed responsibility for the attack, the third carried out on ships off the coast of Yemen in the last six months.

“The Saudi warship was involved in aggression against western coastal cities and Yemeni fishermen,” a military official was quoted as saying by the Saba Yemeni news agency, run by the dominant Houthi movement.

Earlier on Monday, a building in southern Saudi Arabia used by United Nations staff to monitor ceasefire violations in Yemen was damaged by cross-border rocket fire.

The Saudi-led coalition said the attack on the ship was a serious development that “would impact international navigation and the flow of humanitarian assistance to the port for Yemeni citizens.”

In October, a U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer was targeted in a failed missile attack from Yemen.

Former President Barack Obama launched cruise missile strikes on coastal radar sites in response in Washington’s first direct military action against suspected Houthi-controlled targets in Yemen’s conflict.

In another incident in October, a Saudi-led force rescued passengers from a vessel being used by the United Arab Emirates military that was attacked by Houthi fighters in a strategic Red Sea shipping lane, the Bab al-Mandab strait.

More than 3.4 million barrels of oil passed through the 20 km (12 mile)-wide Bab al-Mandab each day in 2013, the U.S. Energy Information Administration says.

Saudi Arabia and its Gulf Arab allies have carried out thousands of bombing raids in Yemen since March 2015 in a campaign to try to restore the ousted internationally recognized government of President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi. (Reporting by Mohammed Ghobari and Ali Abdelaty; Writing by Tom Finn; Editing by Tom Heneghan)

(c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2017.

http://gcaptain.com/saudi-warship-attacked-in-red-sea-off-yemen/
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Post by: AGelbert on January 31, 2017, 08:17:39 pm
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Russia in Biggest Arctic Military Push Since Soviet Fall

January 30, 2017 by Reuters

By Andrew Osborn

MURMANSK, Russia, Jan 30 (Reuters) – The nuclear icebreaker Lenin, the pride and joy of the Soviet Union’s Arctic great game, lies at perpetual anchor in the frigid water here. A relic of the Cold War, it is now a museum.

But nearly three decades after the Lenin was taken out of service to be turned into a visitor attraction, Russia is again on the march in the Arctic and building new nuclear icebreakers.

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It is part of a push to firm Moscow’s hand in the High North as it vies for dominance with traditional rivals Canada, the United States, and Norway as well as newcomer China.

Interviews with officials and military analysts and reviews of government documents show Russia’s build-up is the biggest since the 1991 Soviet fall and will, in some areas, give Moscow more military capabilities than the Soviet Union once had.

The expansion has far-reaching financial and geopolitical ramifications. The Arctic is estimated to hold more hydrocarbon reserves than Saudi Arabia and Moscow is putting down a serious military marker.

“History is repeating itself,” Vladimir Blinov, a guide on board the icebreaker Lenin, which is named after communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, told a recent tour group.

“Back then (in the 1950s) it was the height of the Cold War and the United States was leading in some areas. But we beat the Americans and built the world’s first nuclear ship (the Lenin). The situation today is similar.”

Under President Vladimir Putin, Moscow is rushing to re-open abandoned Soviet military, air and radar bases on remote Arctic islands and to build new ones, as it pushes ahead with a claim to almost half a million square miles of the Arctic.

It regularly releases pictures of its troops training in white fatigues, wielding assault rifles as they zip along on sleighs pulled by reindeer.

The Arctic, the U.S. Geological Survey estimates, holds oil and gas reserves equivalent to 412 billion barrels of oil, about 22 percent of the world’s undiscovered oil and gas.

Low oil prices and Western sanctions imposed over Moscow’s actions in Ukraine mean new offshore Arctic projects have for now been mothballed, but the Kremlin is playing a longer game.

It is building three nuclear icebreakers, including the world’s largest, to bolster its fleet of around 40 breakers, six of which are nuclear. No other country has a nuclear breaker fleet, used to clear channels for military and civilian ships.

Russia’s Northern Fleet, based near Murmansk in the Kola Bay’s icy waters, is also due to get its own icebreaker, its first, and two ice-capable corvettes armed with cruise missiles.

“Under (Soviet leader Mikhail) Gorbachev and (Russian President Boris) Yeltsin, our Arctic border areas were stripped bare,” said Professor Pavel Makarevich, a member of the Russian Geographical Society. “Now they are being restored.”

‘AGGRESSIVE STEPS’

The build-up, which echoes moves in Crimea and Kaliningrad, has been noticed in Washington. U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis told his confirmation hearing this month it was “not to our advantage to leave any part of the world” to others.

Mattis, in a separate written submission, described Moscow’s Arctic moves as “aggressive steps” and pledged to prioritise developing a U.S. strategy, according to Senator Dan Sullivan.

That poses a potential dilemma for President Donald Trump, who wants to repair U.S.-Russia ties and team up with Moscow in Syria rather than get sucked into an Arctic arms race.

The build-up is causing jitters elsewhere. Some 300 U.S. Marines landed in Norway this month for a six-month deployment, the first time since World War Two that foreign troops have been allowed to be stationed there.

And with memories of Russia’s 2014 annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea still fresh, NATO is watching closely. Six of its members held an exercise in the region in 2015.

The Soviet military packed more firepower in the Arctic, but it was set up to wage nuclear war with the United States not conventional warfare. Arctic islands were staging posts for long-range bombers to fly to America.

But in an era when a slow-motion battle for the Arctic’s energy reserves is unfolding, Russia is creating a permanent and nimble conventional military presence with different and sometimes superior capabilities.

Sergei Shoigu, the defence minister, is presiding over the re-opening or creation of six military facilities, some of which will be ready by the year’s end.

They include an island base on Alexandra Land to house 150 troops able to survive autonomously for 18 months. Called the Arctic Trefoil, officials have said they may deploy military jets there. MiG-31 fighters, designed to shoot down long-range bombers, or the SU-34, a frontline bomber, are seen as suitable.

Moscow’s biggest Arctic base, dubbed “Northern Shamrock”, is meanwhile taking shape on the remote Kotelny Island, some 2,700 miles east of Moscow. It will be manned by 250 personnel and equipped with air defence missiles.

Soviet-era radar stations and airstrips on four other Arctic islands are being overhauled and new ground-to-air missile and anti-ship missile systems have been moved into the region.

Russia is also spending big to winterise military hardware.

“The modernisation of Arctic forces and of Arctic military infrastructure is taking place at an unprecedented pace not seen even in Soviet times,” Mikhail Barabanov, editor-in-chief of Moscow Defense Brief, told Reuters.

He said two special Arctic brigades had been set up, something the USSR never had, and that there were plans to form a third as well as special Arctic coastal defence divisions.

“Russia’s military activity in the Arctic is a bit provocative,” said Barabanov. “It could trigger an arms race.”

‘FRIENDLY PEOPLE’

In Murmansk, home to Russia’s icebreakers and just an hour from the Northern Fleet’s headquarters, the prospect of an Arctic renaissance is a source of pride.

The city is steeped in Arctic and military history. The conning tower of the Kursk submarine, which sunk in 2000 after an explosion, looks down from a hill above the port.

And in central Murmansk, scale models of dozens of icebreakers crowd the halls of the Murmansk Shipping Company, while sailors, wrapped in great coats, barrel along its streets.

“These Arctic bases are on our territory. Unlike some other countries we are not building them overseas,” said Denis Moiseev, a member of the Russian Geographical Society.

“Other countries are also very active in trying to push their borders towards the North Pole. Our army must be able to operate on all our territory in extreme conditions.”

One country regularly mentioned as an unlikely Arctic rival is China, a close Moscow ally, which has observer status on the Arctic Council, the main forum for coordinating cooperation in the region, and is starting to build its own icebreakers.

Politicians are keener to discuss a commercial Arctic push.

New roads and a railway are being built and ports overhauled as Moscow expands its freight capacity and, amid warmer climate cycles, readies for more traffic along its Arctic coast.

It hopes the Northern Sea Route, which runs from Murmansk to the Bering Strait near Alaska, could become a mini Suez Canal, cutting sea transport times from Asia to Europe.

But while the route’s popularity inside Russia is growing, relatively high transit costs and unpredictable ice coverage means it has lost some of its lustre for foreign firms.

Grigory Stratiy, deputy governor of the Murmansk Region, told Reuters there was strong interest in sea route from Asian nations however and that new icebreakers would allow for year-round navigation in the 2020s.

“Whatever the weather, the Northern Sea Route will be needed. Its use will definitely grow,” said Stratiy, who said Russia was keen to attract foreign investment to the Arctic.

When asked about his country’s military build-up, he smiled.

“There’s no reason to be afraid I can reassure you,” he said, saying it was driven only by a need to modernise.

“Russia has never had any aggressive aims and won’t have them. We are very friendly people.” (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0293.gif)


(Editing by Janet McBride)

(c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2017.

http://gcaptain.com/russia-biggest-arctic-military-push-since-soviet-fall/

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 12, 2017, 12:00:13 pm
https://youtu.be/wfGx-028K_U

Iran 'On Notice': Will Trump Pull The Trigger?  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-310714182509.png)
 

RonPaulLibertyReport

Streamed live on Feb 2, 2017

President Trump's National Security Advisor, Gen. Michael Flynn, interrupted the White House press briefing yesterday to deliver a statement that the US is putting Iran "on notice" after what he claimed were "destabilizing" acts by the Iranian government. Was he right? What will the US do?

https://youtu.be/L0yWdA8rhDY

What Donald Trump (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013200859.png) Does Not Want You To Know About Iran
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 12, 2017, 12:28:44 pm
https://youtu.be/zPce0aflXUY
The Real Truth On Donald Trump That Everyone Needs To Realize NOW!!!

91,125 views

Published on Jan 30, 2017

In this video, we go over some very uncomfortable facts about the latest foreign policy decisions that will have disastrous effects on not only the U.S but the world. No, we are not talking about the travel ban, but the core root of this issue that needs to be stopped immediatly and has been carried out for the last 16 years. If you want more news like this dont forget to share this video and suport it on
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Post by: AGelbert on February 16, 2017, 06:13:00 pm
https://youtu.be/DH_87xFpEvI

Netanyahu Laughs At Trump's Peace Plan
 

The Young Turks   

Published on Feb 15, 2017

Netanyahu couldn’t believe how clueless Trump is. Cenk Uygur and John Iadarola, hosts of The Young Turks, discuss. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. http://tytnetwork.com/go

"President Donald Trump on Wednesday dropped a U.S. commitment to a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a longstanding bedrock of Middle East policy, even as he urged Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to curb settlement construction.

In the first face-to-face meeting between the two leaders since Trump’s victory in the 2016 election, the Republican president backed away from a U.S. embrace of the eventual creation of a Palestinian state, upending a position taken by successive administrations and the international community.

"I'm looking at two states and one state, and I like the one both parties like," Trump told a joint news conference with Netanyahu. "I can live with either one."

Trump vowed to work toward a peace deal between Israel and Palestinians but said it would require compromise on both sides, leaving it up to the parties themselves ultimately to reach the terms of any agreement.

But he offered no new prescription for achieving an accord that has eluded so many of his predecessors, and Palestinian anger over his abandonment of their goal of statehood could scrap any chance of coaxing them back to the negotiating table.

Dropping a bombshell on Netanyahu as they faced reporters just before sitting down for talks, Trump told him: “I'd like to see you pull back on settlements for a little bit.”

The right-wing Israeli leader, who may have expected more decidedly pro-Israel rhetoric as the two sought to get past years of feuding with Trump's Democratic predecessor Barack Obama, appeared startled.”*

Read more here: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa...

Hosts: Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola
Cast: Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 21, 2017, 05:28:03 pm

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Meanwhile, in private, the non-crazy members of the U.S. foreign policy establishment aren’t confused at all. They understand quite well that Islamist terrorism is almost wholly blowback from the foreign policy they’ve designed.

Why Do So Many Americans Fear Muslims? Decades of Denial (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/gen152.gif) About America’s Role in the World.
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Jon Schwarz

February 18 2017, 9:11 a.m.

SNIPPET:

There’s been lots of attention-grabbing opposition to Trump’s “Muslim ban” executive order, from demonstrations to court orders. But polls make it clear public opinion is much more mixed. Standard phone polls show small majorities opposed, while web and automated polls find small majorities continue to support it.

What surprises me about the poll results isn’t that lots of Americans like the ban — but that so many Americans don’t. Regular people have lives to lead and can’t investigate complicated issues in detail. Instead they usually take their cues from leaders they trust. And given what politicians across the U.S. political spectrum say about terrorism, Trump’s executive order makes perfect sense. There are literally no national-level American politicians telling a story that would help ordinary people understand why Trump’s goals are both horrendously counterproductive and morally vile.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-120716190938.png)


Think of it this way:

On February 13, 1991 during the first Gulf War, the U.S. dropped two laser-guided bombs on the Amiriyah public air raid shelter in Baghdad. More than 400 Iraqi civilians were incinerated or boiled alive. For years afterward visitors to a memorial there would meet a woman with eight children who had died during the bombing; she was living in the ruined shelter because she could not bear to be anywhere else.

Now, imagine that immediately after the bombing Saddam Hussein had delivered a speech on Iraqi TV in which he plaintively asked “Why do they hate us?”   (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9HT4xZyDmh4/TOHhxzA0wLI/AAAAAAAAEUk/oeHDS2cfxWQ/s200/Smiley_Angel_Wings_Halo.jpg)
without ever mentioning the fact that Iraq was occupying Kuwait. And even Saddam’s political opponents would only mumble that “this is a complicated issue.” And most Iraqis had no idea that their country had invaded Kuwait, and that there were extensive United Nation resolutions and speeches by George H.W. Bush explaining the U.S.-led coalition’s rationale for attacking Iraq in response. And that the few Iraqis who suggested there might be some kind of relationship between Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait and the Amiriyah bombing were shouted down by politicians saying these Iraq-hating radicals obviously believed that America’s slaughter of 400 people was justified.

If that had happened, we’d immediately recognize that Iraqi political culture was completely insane, and that it would cause them to behave in dangerously nutty ways. But that’s exactly what U.S. political culture is like.


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https://theintercept.com/2017/02/18/why-do-so-many-americans-fear-muslims-decades-of-denial-about-americas-role-in-the-world/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on February 28, 2017, 04:29:41 pm
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Wary of Trump Unpredictability, China Ramps Up Naval Abilities

February 27, 2017 by Reuters

FILE PHOTO: China's Liaoning aircraft carrier with accompanying fleet conducts a drill in an area of South China Sea, in this undated photo taken December, 2016. REUTERS/Stringer/File photo (at article link)

ReutersBy Ben Blanchard and Michael Martina

BEIJING, Feb 26 (Reuters) – The PLA Navy is likely to secure significant new funding in China’s upcoming defense budget as Beijing seeks to check U.S. dominance of the high seas and step up its own projection of power around the globe.

China’s navy has been taking an increasingly prominent role in recent months, with a rising star admiral taking command, its first aircraft carrier sailing around self-ruled Taiwan and new Chinese warships popping up in far-flung places.

Now, with President Donald Trump promising a U.S. shipbuilding spree and unnerving Beijing with his unpredictable approach on hot button issues including Taiwan and the South and East China Seas, China is pushing to narrow the gap with the U.S. Navy.

“It’s opportunity in crisis,” said a Beijing-based Asian diplomat, of China’s recent naval moves. “China fears Trump will turn on them eventually as he’s so unpredictable and it’s getting ready.”

Beijing does not give a breakdown for how much it spends on the navy, and the overall official defense spending figures it gives – 954.35 billion yuan ($139 billion) for 2016 – likely understates its investment, according to diplomats.

China unveils the defense budget for this year at next month’s annual meeting of parliament, a closely watched figure around the region and in Washington, for clues to China’s intentions.

China surprised last year with its lowest increase in six years, 7.6 percent, the first single-digit rise since 2010, following a nearly unbroken two-decade run of double-digit jumps.

“Certainly, the PLA Navy has really been the beneficiary of a lot of this new spending in the past 15 years,” said Richard Bitzinger, Senior Fellow and Coordinator of the Military Transformations Programme at the S.Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore.

“We don’t how much they spend on the navy, but simply extrapolating from the quantity and the quality of things that are coming out of their shipyards, it’s pretty amazing.”

RAPID DEVELOPMENT

The Chinese navy, once generally limited to coastal operations, has developed rapidly under President Xi Jinping’s ambitious military modernisation.

It commissioned 18 ships in 2016, including missile destroyers, corvettes and guided missile frigates, according to state media.

Barely a week goes by without an announcement of some new piece of equipment, including an electronic reconnaissance ship put into service in January.

Still, the PLA Navy significantly lags the United States, which operates 10 aircraft carriers to China’s one, the Soviet-era Liaoning.

Xu Guangyu, a retired major general in the People’s Liberation Army now senior adviser to the government-run China Arms Control and Disarmament Association, said China was keenly aware of the U.S. ability to project power at sea.

“It’s like a marathon and we’re falling behind. We need to step on the gas,” Xu said.

Trump has vowed to increase the U.S. Navy to 350 ships from the current 290 as part of “one of the “greatest military buildups in American history,” a move aides say is needed to counter China’s rise as a military power.

“We’ve known this is a 15-20 year project and every year they get closer to being a blue-water navy with global aspirations,” said a U.S. administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

“What you have seen this last year and what I think you will see with the new budget is that they are moving ahead with the short-term goal of being the premier naval force in the South China Sea and the East China Sea, with the mid-term goal, of extending all the way to the Indian Ocean.”

In January, China appointed new navy chief, Shen Jinlong, to lead that push.

Shen has enjoyed a meteoric rise and is close to Xi, diplomatic and leadership sources say.

“The navy has gotten very lucky with Shen,” said a Chinese official close to the military, speaking on condition of anonymity. “Now they know for certain their support goes all the way to the top.”

Recent PLA Navy missions have included visits to Gulf states, where the United States has traditionally protected sea lanes, and to the South China Sea, Indian Ocean and Western Pacific, in what the state-run website StrongChina called Shen’s “first show of force against the United States, Japan and Taiwan.”

Last month, a Chinese submarine docked at a port in Malaysia’s Sabah state, which lies on the South China Sea, only the second confirmed visit of a Chinese submarine to a foreign port, according to state media.

The submarine had come from supporting anti-piracy operations off the coast of Somalia, where China has been learning valuable lessons about overseas naval operations since 2008.

Chinese warships have also been calling at ports in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Myanmar, unnerving regional rival India.

“It’s power projection,” said a Beijing-based Western diplomat, of China’s navy. ($1 = 6.8640 Chinese yuan)

(Additional reporting by David Brunnstrom and Adrees Ali in WASHINGTON; Editing by Lincoln Feast)

(c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2017.

http://gcaptain.com/wary-trump-unpredictability-china-ramps-naval-abilities/

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 01, 2017, 05:20:39 pm
Retired Col. Larry Wilkerson: Trump’s Military Spending Plan Is ‘Disastrous’ and ‘Absurd’

Posted on Feb 28, 2017

https://youtu.be/XXnZH2PB_AA
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 01, 2017, 08:51:54 pm
Trump's Disaster Capitalism Explained

Antony Lowenstein, Guardian/Disaster Capitalism: Making a Killing Out of Catastrophe. As Donald Trump tries for a reset after a chaotic first month in office - is he laying the groundwork for disaster capitalism American-style?

https://youtu.be/ZeOgG6IIIBA

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on March 11, 2017, 02:39:27 pm
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Berta Cáceres was murdered a year ago. (http://images.zaazu.com/img/Incredible-Hulk-animated-animation-male-smiley-emoticon-000342-large.gif)

Beverly Bell on Berta Cáceres: ''There Will Not Be Change as Long as US Sends Military Aid to Honduras''

Friday, March 10, 2017

SNIPPET:

If history is guide, what coverage you may see of the anniversary of Cáceres' death will acknowledge her as a human rights leader but won't discuss US complicity in her fate, and that of many others killed, attacked or jailed in Honduras for standing up for themselves and their communities.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/39793-there-will-not-be-change-as-long-as-us-sends-military-aid-to-honduras

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 01, 2017, 10:43:15 pm
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Will Trump Engineer a False Flag Attack to Distract From His Disastrous Policies?


https://youtu.be/MIMqY_H0XjA
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 03, 2017, 06:57:51 pm
 
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Noam Chomsky: 2 Ways Trump Is Pushing the Doomsday Clock to the Brink of Midnight  

The following is an transcript of a recent public interview at the University of Arizona with linguist and political commentator Noam Chomsky by Dr. David N. Gibbs.

David Gibbs: The main issue on everyone's minds is the inauguration of Donald Trump as president. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists has emphasized the extreme danger that Trump poses, due to the augmented risk of nuclear war and uncontrolled climate change. After inauguration, the Bulletin's metaphoric clock has been repositioned at two and a half minutes to midnight, with "midnight" signifying catastrophe. Do you agree with the Bulletin regarding the alleged dangers posed by the Trump presidency?

Noam Chomsky: One of the dangers is unquestionable. Of the two existential threats—the threats to the termination of the species basically and most other species—one of them, climate change, on that I think there's no basis for discussion. Trump has been very inconsistent on many things; on Twitter he's been all over the place, but some of it is very consistent. That is: Do nothing about climate change except make it worse. And he's not just speaking for himself, but for the whole Republican Party, the whole leadership. It's already had impact, it will have worse impact. We'll talk about this next week, but if there are ways out of this, it's going to be not easy.

Full article: (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/reading.gif)

 http://www.ecowatch.com/chomsky-trump-doomsday-clock-2342419463.html
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 09, 2017, 04:10:13 pm
In regard to Trump's missile strike in Syria:


Yeah, saw that. And all the alt-right talking heads here are apoplectic. I'm guessing Mr. Trump is gonna be a one-termer, unless nuclear armageddon makes it all moot.

Resignation, Impeachment, Coup d'Etat and Assassination are all possible alternatives to an Early Exit besides Nuclear War.

RE


Every US president has done this kind of wag the dog CRAP when their ratings got in the tank from Clinton on. Trump TOLD the Russians where he was going to strike before he did it. So of course the Russians told ... (and so on). This is a Trump scam following US Presidential "tradition", not a prelude to WWIII. Oh, and while nobody was lookin', Trumpy just tried to MODIFY his financial "blind" trust. LOL! 

(http://alexanderhiggins.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/obama-wag-the-dog.jpg)

As to Trump's low IQ Alternative Right Racist supporters, he has as much use for them as Hitler did for the Brown shirts when he had finished using them to get to power. SUCKERS! (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013200859.png)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 11, 2017, 06:25:21 pm
Keith says it ALL.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sGFel-fhGkw

(http://alexanderhiggins.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/obama-wag-the-dog.jpg)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 13, 2017, 10:35:25 pm
TheDuran

CONFIRMED: US sharply cuts air operations in Syria fearing Russian missiles
ALEXANDER MERCOURIS
US sharply reduces air operations in Syria because of presence of Russian missiles after Moscow closes hotline.
The media is barely reporting the fact but the immediate effect of the US missiles strike on Syria’s Sharyat air base has been to reduce US air force flights over Syria as the US worries about Moscow’s reaction.

That this is so is confirmed by the New York Times which – presumably because its anti-Trump campaign overrides all other issues – has actually been doing some proper reporting about the Syrian conflict following the US missile strike.

This is all set out by New York Times in the following article, which says the following:

    The American-led task force that is battling the Islamic State has sharply reduced airstrikes against the militants in Syria as commanders assess whether Syrian government forces or their Russian allies plan to respond to the United States’ cruise missile strike on a Syrian airfield this past week, American officials said.

    The precautionary move, revealed in statistics made public by the command on Saturday, was taken as Russian officials have threatened to suspend the communication line the American and Russian militaries use to notify each other about air operations in Syria.

    So far, the Russian military does not appear to have taken any threatening actions, such as directing its battlefield radar or air defense systems to confront the Americans, or carrying out aggressive actions in the skies, United States officials said.

    But officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal planning said the commanders needed time to determine whether the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, and the Russian military would treat the American cruise missile strike as a one-time operation that they would not respond to militarily. As a precaution, the Pentagon is flying patrols in Syrian skies with F-22 jets, the Air Force’s most advanced air-to-air fighter……

    Some American and other Western counterterrorism officials have said the missile strike could………make the fight against the Islamic State in Syria more difficult.

    “It seems clear that the strikes will complicate our efforts to pursue our counter-ISIS campaign in Syria,” said Matthew Olsen, a former director of the National Counterterrorism Center. “In particular, the ability to carry out U.S. airstrikes in Syria in support of the coalition against ISIS requires some degree of cooperation with Russia, which is now in serious jeopardy.”

    Other security experts said that much depended on the Trump administration’s next steps, and how the Assad government and its Russian patrons responded.

    “U.S. aircraft operating over Al-Tabqah are already ostensibly in range of the Russian S-400 system at the Humaymin Air Base, and we might see Russia deploy more air defense assets to Syria,” Jeremy Binnie, the Middle East editor of Jane’s Defense Weekly, said in an email. “But if the U.S. makes no moves to threaten Assad’s position, then they may well accept the punishment and move on.”

    William McCants, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and the author of “The ISIS Apocalypse,” offered a similar assessment.

This is the military reality that is causing the US to give repeated assurances to the Russians that the missile strike on Sharyat air base – largely ineffective as it appears to have been – is intended as a one-off, and that in President Trump’s words: “Are we going to get involved in Syria? No.”

Whether the Russians believe this assurance is another matter.  Even if it is intended sincerely, the Russians must wonder whether the Trump administration can honour it given that by launching its missiles the Trump administration has decisively lost leverage in Washington to the regime change hardliners.

In any event what this episode shows is the huge leverage the presence of the S-400 and S-300VM Antey-2500 missiles in Syria is giving the Russians.

The Russians do not need to make threats or fire missiles at the US or do any other reckless or dangerous things to make their point and to limit US air operations in Syria.  Despite all the brave talk of Russia being under pressure in Syria, the reality is that the Russians can achieve the same result simply by turning off the telephone.  That is what they have done, and it the reason for the tough negotiations between Tillerson and the Russians in Moscow.


Good info.   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png) Thank you, AZ.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 15, 2017, 03:03:11 pm
Based on the recent Syria and Afghanistan bombings, one suspects the FSoA military will launch a barrage of Tomahawks at the proposed test site for the nuke.  Kim Long Dong has to be aware of that.  The most "proportional" and reserved retaliation would be to use an attack sub in his own waters to sink a carrier and a couple of battleships.  A more provocative and suicidal tactic would be to have a sub parked off the coast of CA fire off a few missiles at downtown Los Angeles.  They don't even need to be Nukes.

If Trumpty-Dumty does drop ordinance on NK, there is certain to be follow up fireworks IMHO.  This is not like bombing towel head terrorists who don't have a lot of response capability beyond IEDs.

On the upside, this could render my SS case moot.

RE


True. Another relative upside is that Japan won't have to worry about Fukushima. They can blame all that radionuclide pollution on fall out.   (http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/n/nuclear-emoticon.gif)

https://www.rt.com/news/384755-north-korea-war-possible/ (https://www.rt.com/news/384755-north-korea-war-possible/)
New Korean War may break out ‘at any moment’ – Chinese FM
14 Apr, 2017

China’s Foreign Minister warned that an armed conflict with North Korea may break out “at any moment,” urging Washington and Pyongyang to tone down their hawkish rhetoric and realize the price to pay for both sides if a new Korean War were to start.

The extraordinary warning comes amid massive US military buildup near the Korean Peninsula, with the carrier strike group ‘USS Carl Vinson’ heading towards the region. While US President Donald Trump is threatening to “take care” of the North Korean “problem,” Pyongyang says it is ready to repel any military action.

“Lately, tensions have risen with the US and the ROK [South Korea] on one side, and the DPRK [North Korea] on the other,” Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told reporters on Friday, adding that “One has the feeling that a conflict could break out at any moment.”

He cautioned both sides that “if a war occurs, the result is a situation in which everybody loses and there can be no winner,” and that whichever side provoked a conflict “must assume the historic responsibility and pay the corresponding price.”

Earlier in the day, Wang said both Washington and Pyongyang must refrain from “provoking and threatening each other, whether in words or actions, and not let the situation get to an irreversible and unmanageable stage,” as cited by Reuters.

In an apparent attempt to cool down the US administration’s bellicose rhetoric, he added: “Force cannot solve the problem – dialogue can be the only channel to resolving the problem.”

China, North Korea’s close ally and main trading partner, does not welcome Pyongyang's nuclear program, but advocates finding political solution to the crisis. For its part, Russia, which also shares a land border with the reclusive state, expressed deep concern over the mounting tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

The tension on the Korean Peninsula was one of the topics Wang Yi discussed with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in a Friday phone call.

Moscow stands for “politico-diplomatic reconciliation” and urges all parties to show patience and refrain from “any actions which might mean making provocative steps,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Friday.

From 1950 to 1953, the US fought against North Korea’s troops in the Korean War. After the US-led coalition forces crossed the 38th parallel dividing the two Koreas, China deployed troops and entered the war, while the USSR rendered military and logistical support to their socialist allies. The conflict, which quickly became a war of attrition, claimed the lives of over 33,000 American and 400,000 North Korean soldiers.

According to some media reports, the ongoing US military buildup close to North Korean waters may go far beyond an ordinary show of force. On Thursday, American intelligence officials told NBC that the US has sent two destroyers capable of launching Tomahawk cruise missiles in the region, with one just 300 miles (some 480 km) from the North Korean nuclear test site.

American long-range bombers have also been positioned in Guam to hit North Korean targets. In turn, North Korea warned on Tuesday it would retaliate to any sign of American aggression with all means available.

“If the US dares opt for a military action, crying out for ‘pre-emptive attack’, [Pyongyang] is ready to react. We will hold the US wholly accountable for the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by its outrageous actions,” North Korea’s deputy foreign minister said in an interview with AP.

“The US introduces into the Korean Peninsula, the world's biggest hotspot, huge nuclear strategic assets, seriously threatening peace and security of the peninsula and pushing the situation there to the brink of a war,” the North’s General Staff said in a statement carried by KCNA.

So what now? Kim Young Fatty is freaking out, I'm sure. But if the US goads him into a war, or just flat starts one for no reason other than to prevent missile test launches, I look for North Korea to  own Japan in a week. Or be a smoking ruin from nukes.

What now?  ???

There will be an Old Trump Fatty freaking out pretty soon as well.


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/25/43/64/2543640e164a46afe11fee7d7043bb7b.jpg)
That incompetent greedball (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/p8.gif)  (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/126fs2277341.gif) will fold under the pressure.

The "Wag the Dog" game Trumpy is trying to play will eat him alive.
(http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200317173810.png)

Expect "SEVEN DAYS IN MAY" when Old Fat Trumpy loses it.    8)
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 18, 2017, 12:50:40 pm
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TmnNOjlJKmk/V-pgQ0gW6kI/AAAAAAAAEiY/XfajBEPDn84exnlOyR3alX-8iqTE85gdQCLcB/s640/_83668915_027121769-2.jpg)

(http://www.netanimations.net/Frankenstein-looks-stares-and-blinks-animated-gif.gif) North Korea says ready to react to 'any mode of war' from US  (http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/n/nuclear-emoticon.gif)

Posted 18 Apr 2017 02:11
 Updated 18 Apr 2017 08:07

UNITED NATIONS: North Korea is preparing for "any mode of war" triggered by US military action, Pyongyang's envoy to the United Nations warned on Monday (Apr 17), saying his country would respond to a missile or nuclear strike "in kind."

The statement from North Korea's deputy ambassador to the United Nations, Kim In Ryong, followed warnings from US Vice President Mike Pence to Pyongyang not to test US resolve.

"If the United States dares opt for a military action (...) the DPRK is ready to react to any mode of war desired by the Americans," Kim told a news conference at UN headquarters in New York. "We will take the toughest counteraction against the provocateurs," he said.

North Korea has taken "self-defensive" measures in response to US threats of military action and these reflect Pyongyang's determination to "counter nukes and ICBM in kind," Kim said, referring to intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Pence earlier told a news conference in South Korea that "the era of strategic patience is over" after North Korea on Sunday test-fired another missile and fears mounted that it may be preparing a sixth nuclear test.

Pyongyang is seeking to develop a long-range missile capable of hitting the US mainland with a nuclear warhead, and has so far staged five nuclear tests, two of them last year.

Kim also confirmed that a new nuclear test was under preparation, saying that the plans had been announced and that "it will take place."

"As far as nuclear test is concerned, it was already announced to the public. It is something that our headquarters decided. At a time and at the place where our headquarters deem necessary, it will take place," he said.

(http://thediamondsmine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/gabon-posturing-crop.jpg)
'GOT TO BEHAVE' (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/ugly004.gif)


US President Donald Trump's decision at the weekend to send the Carl Vinson carrier-led navy strike group to the Korean peninsula shows that the "US reckless moves for invading the DPRK have reached a serious phase," said Kim.

The North Korean deputy envoy asserted that Pyongyang would hold the United States "wholly accountable for the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by its outrageous actions."

The envoy criticised the US missile strikes that hit an air base in Syria last week, saying Washington was resorting to a "gangster-like logic" that its military action was proportionate and could apply to the Korean peninsula as well.

Trump on Monday said his message to North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un was: "Got to behave."

UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric separately expressed concern over rising tensions on the Korean peninsula and said the latest missile test was "troubling".

He urged North Korea to "take all the steps necessary to de-escalate the situation and return to dialogue on denuclearisation."

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson will next week chair a special meeting of the UN Security Council on North Korea.

- AFP/de

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/north-korea-says-ready-to-react-to-any-mode-of-war-from-us/3685330.html

 
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 19, 2017, 01:56:03 pm
No, wait!  WTF is going on?  There are not 3, not 2, not 1, but NO carriers in the Sea of Japan.  WW3 is postponed - there's an important exercise with the Australians in the Indo-Pacific to deal with first, THEN we'll get round to the naughty North Koreans.

Kim must be laughing his head off, and China-Russia, who presumably could see by satellite the USS Carl Vinson was sailing SOUTH from Singapore, must be thinking "What a bunch of amateurs !"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/world/asia/aircraft-carrier-north-korea-carl-vinson.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/world/asia/aircraft-carrier-north-korea-carl-vinson.html)
Aircraft Carrier Wasn’t Sailing to Deter North Korea, as U.S. Suggested

As Charlie Pierce said apropos this:

Let us catch our breath for a minute and take stock.

These people misplaced an entire carrier attack group and then tried to bluff their way past it in a way guaranteed to make a crazy guy with a bad haircut and a huge army nervous.


http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54605/trump-aircraft-carrier-north-korea/ (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54605/trump-aircraft-carrier-north-korea/)


(http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/files/2016/06/posture.jpg)
"Got To Behave" 

Like I said before, it's all about posturing. 8)  North Korea has been at this for a while. BUT Trump is a bird of exactly the same BULLSHIT feather.

More TRUMP-like posturing behavior in video below: (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4fvfcja.gif)

https://youtu.be/tz0avWZoqjg

Ya know, I do believe Trump is in to Tom Clancy novels. In one of those tales, a carrier group was sent to attack Japan (the bad guys in that particular novel) while CNN continued showing reruns of THAT aircraft carrier in the group in dry dock for repairs as if they were still going on. This latest BLUFF by Trump may be something like that, but in reverse.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 20, 2017, 10:18:08 pm
Message to the POS POTUS:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NLzI3NkLD2E/hqdefault.jpg)

https://youtu.be/PCcw2sPlplY
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 22, 2017, 03:57:40 pm
Will This Ship Killer Make Naval Convoys Obsolete? ???

The Tomahawk missile is famous for attacking stationary targets on land, but except for a short-lived anti-ship variant now out of service, it had not been used against mobile or floating targets. That changed dramatically two years ago when a modified Tomahawk punched a hole through a shipping container on the deck of a moving merchant ship (video below).

https://youtu.be/Jgv5ixxgTsQ

While the Tomahawk anti-ship missile can hit moving targets at sea – making them a lot smarter than their more famous cousins – they do not have the target selection and tracking intelligence you might expect to find aboard the world’s most technologically advanced 21st century warship

But that might change soon with the U.S. Navy announcement this month of a successful air-launch of the newest variant of Lockheed Martin’s Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) from a F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighter plane. This follows the successful test of the surface-launched LRASM variant that was conducted aboard the USN SDTS in July of last year.

LRASM is designed to detect and destroy specific targets within groups of ships by employing advanced technologies that reduce dependence on surveillance and GPS navigation. Armed with a 1,000-pound penetrator and blast-fragmentation warhead, LRASM employs a multi-mode sensor, weapon data link and an enhanced digital anti-jam Global Positioning System to detect and destroy specific targets within a group of ships.

Basically, this stealthy missile will have enough AI on-board for highly accurate targeting and the ability to survive an enemy’s electronic countermeasures and sink a specific ship located within a convoy or busy shipping lane.

Once operational, both LRASM variants will play a significant role in ensuring military access to operate in open ocean/blue waters, owing to its enhanced ability to sink both naval and merchant ships from extended range.

http://gcaptain.com/will-ship-killer-make-naval-convoys-obsolete/

Agelbert NOTE: NOW you KNOW what REALLY hit the Pentagon on 9/11.

(http://pm1.narvii.com/5869/6a64193d6770c3afd17406c78686c0eda32ded1c_hq.jpg)

(https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/911_90_11.jpg)

(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/othernews_911/rense_3-9-5_archivos/Grandpunchoutcut.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fc/ba/27/fcba271e838edf4fd80fbc7b0818970c.jpg)

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/be/bead363502f8e7564038c7072c490cfc0da55bf30c42bb1f04983157e9ae7125.jpg)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 23, 2017, 02:43:09 pm
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/the-president-formerly-known-as-hitler/ (http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/the-president-formerly-known-as-hitler/)

April 21, 2017
The President Formerly Known as Hitler

by CJ Hopkins

For most of the spastic talking heads who are paid to repeat whatever some producer whispers into their earpieces around the clock while making weird faces, the footage of those turgid Tomahawk missiles rising angrily out of their silos on their way to violently penetrate the enemy and explode in shuddering spasms of global corporatist power was literally orgasmic. Pent-up editorialists instantly pumped out geysers of overwhelming approval. MSNBC’s Brian Williams lost it and started raving on camera about “the beauty of our fearsome armaments,” and quoting Leonard Cohen, and so on.
//
The global capitalist ruling classes can put up with a lot from a US president (who is the most powerful man in the world, after all), but there are a few lines one does not cross, and some fundamental responsibilities they need to know are going to get handled. Playing neo-nationalist grab-ass (or selling the world some Hope and Change crap) is all fine and good when you are out on the hustings, but as Obama noted on his way out of town, “reality has a way of asserting itself.” Or, as corporatist puppet Chuck Schumer put it,”you take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you.” I don’t mean to be overly dramatic, but we’re talking about the US military, CIA, NSA, and the rest of the military industrial complex. These are people who have no problem murdering entire families by day and going home and playing with their kids at night. Did anyone really think they were going to allow some word-salad-babbling billionaire to screw around with their long-term objectives because he happened to win a presidential election?


This is great stuff.


I agree the M.I.C. has never felt threatened by the latest song and dance man POTUS.

But you understand, Surly, that this latest especially POS POTUS is exposing the power that the M.I.C. has always gone out of its way to pretend it doesn't have. THAT IS, the FACT that the USA is a M.I.C. "benevolent" dictatorship dressed up in representative democracy pig lipstick. Trump's impotence is not what we-the-people are supposed to be cognizant of...

The military has no morals whatsoever, and never did. And they DO own the FASCIST place called the USA. They plan ahead and they "game" every contingency using our tax dollars in order to be ready, willing and able to instantly defend their power base, while we pretend they defend our country.

Remember when Ron Paul said that, if elected POTUS, the first thing he would do was order the US Military to return from all foreign bases? I do. I laughed. The FIRST POTUS that tries that is OUT within a month or so (if they don't just kill him with a "lone nut").

Have you heard the latest ditty that our brave soldiers are trained to march to in basic training? Here it is:

Quote
We went to the market where all the hadji shop,
pulled out our machetes and we began to chop,
We went to the playground where all the hadji play,
pulled out our machine guns and we began to spray,
We went to the mosque where all the hadji pray,
threw in a hand grenade and blew them all away.

The above is from a recent article (speech) by David Swanson. He tells it like it is.  :(

Back when I was in basic, in 1967, the ditties were far more innocent sounding (even as we were murdering 4 million people in Viet Nam).
Quote
I know a gal from Kansas city
Left, right, left right
She don't drink beer but you can suck her titty
Left, right, left right
One, two ,three, four
left right, LEFT RIGHT!
 (then repeat)

The F-35 and the Incinerating Ski Slope

By David Swanson - Posted on 22 April 2017

http://warisacrime.org/content/f-35-and-incinerating-ski-slope (http://warisacrime.org/content/f-35-and-incinerating-ski-slope)

It's sad.        (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-041115022304.png)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080814213147.png)

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 23, 2017, 05:29:30 pm
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/the-president-formerly-known-as-hitler/ (http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/21/the-president-formerly-known-as-hitler/)

April 21, 2017
The President Formerly Known as Hitler

by CJ Hopkins

For most of the spastic talking heads who are paid to repeat whatever some producer whispers into their earpieces around the clock while making weird faces, the footage of those turgid Tomahawk missiles rising angrily out of their silos on their way to violently penetrate the enemy and explode in shuddering spasms of global corporatist power was literally orgasmic. Pent-up editorialists instantly pumped out geysers of overwhelming approval. MSNBC’s Brian Williams lost it and started raving on camera about “the beauty of our fearsome armaments,” and quoting Leonard Cohen, and so on.
//
The global capitalist ruling classes can put up with a lot from a US president (who is the most powerful man in the world, after all), but there are a few lines one does not cross, and some fundamental responsibilities they need to know are going to get handled. Playing neo-nationalist grab-ass (or selling the world some Hope and Change crap) is all fine and good when you are out on the hustings, but as Obama noted on his way out of town, “reality has a way of asserting itself.” Or, as corporatist puppet Chuck Schumer put it,”you take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you.” I don’t mean to be overly dramatic, but we’re talking about the US military, CIA, NSA, and the rest of the military industrial complex. These are people who have no problem murdering entire families by day and going home and playing with their kids at night. Did anyone really think they were going to allow some word-salad-babbling billionaire to screw around with their long-term objectives because he happened to win a presidential election?


This is great stuff.


I agree the M.I.C. has never felt threatened by the latest song and dance man POTUS.

But you understand, Surly, that this latest especially POS POTUS is exposing the power that the M.I.C. has always gone out of its way to pretend it doesn't have. THAT IS, the FACT that the USA is a M.I.C. "benevolent" dictatorship dressed up in representative democracy pig lipstick. Trump's impotence is not what we-the-people are supposed to be cognizant of...

The military has no morals whatsoever, and never did. And they DO own the FASCIST place called the USA. They plan ahead and they "game" every contingency using our tax dollars in order to be ready, willing and able to instantly defend their power base, while we pretend they defend our country.

Remember when Ron Paul said that, if elected POTUS, the first thing he would do was order the US Military to return from all foreign bases? I do. I laughed. The FIRST POTUS that tries that is OUT within a month or so (if they don't just kill him with a "lone nut").

Have you heard the latest ditty that our brave soldiers are trained to march to in basic training? Here it is:

Quote
We went to the market where all the hadji shop,
pulled out our machetes and we began to chop,
We went to the playground where all the hadji play,
pulled out our machine guns and we began to spray,
We went to the mosque where all the hadji pray,
threw in a hand grenade and blew them all away.

The above is from a recent article (speech) by David Swanson. He tells it like it is.  :(

Back when I was in basic, in 1967, the ditties were far more innocent sounding (even as we were murdering 4 million people in Viet Nam).
Quote
I know a gal from Kansas city
Left, right, left right
She don't drink beer but you can suck her titty
Left, right, left right
One, two ,three, four
left right, LEFT RIGHT!
 (then repeat)

The F-35 and the Incinerating Ski Slope

By David Swanson - Posted on 22 April 2017

http://warisacrime.org/content/f-35-and-incinerating-ski-slope (http://warisacrime.org/content/f-35-and-incinerating-ski-slope)

It's sad.        (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-041115022304.png)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080814213147.png)

Damn...I know I got brainwashed in boot camp, but we didn't have any such cadence when I was there.  I would never have sung that s h I t.  I would have quit in boot camp!

I don't know why anyone would argue with anything you said in the above quote?  I certainly would not. 


 (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png) Thank you Lucid. May your children grow up to be as principled as you are.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 25, 2017, 04:30:23 pm
American Imperialism Leads the World Into Dante’s Vision of Hell

Posted on Apr 24, 2017

By Paul Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Gould

Editor’s note: This article is the first part of a four-part series on Truthdig called “Universal Empire”—an examination of the current stage of the neocon takeover of American policy that began after World War II. Read Part II on Tuesday.

SNIPPET:

“Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate. (Abandon all hope ye who enter here.)”—Dante, The Divine Comedy, Inferno (Part I), Canto 3, Line 9

Before the Tomahawk missiles start flying between Moscow and New York, Americans had better educate themselves fast about the forces and the people who claim that Russia covered up a Syrian government gas attack on its own people. Proof no longer seems to matter in the rush to further transform the world into Dante’s vision of Hell. Accusations made by anonymous sources, spurious sources and outright frauds have become enough. Washington’s paranoia and confusion bear an uncanny resemblance to the final days of the Third Reich, when the leadership in Berlin became completely unglued.

Tensions have been building since fall with accusations that Russian media interfered with our presidential election and is a growing threat to America’s national security. The latest WikiLeaks release strongly suggested that it was the CIA’s own contract hackers behind Hillary Clinton’s email leaks and not Russians. The U.S. has a long reputation of accusing others of things they didn’t do and planting fake news stories to back it up in order to provide a cause for war. The work of secret counterintelligence services is to misinform the public in order to shape opinion, and that’s what this is.

The current U.S. government campaign to slander Russia over anything and everything it does bears all the earmarks of a classic disinformation campaign, but this time is even crazier. Considering that Washington has put Russia, China and Iran on its anti-globalist hit list from which no one is allowed to escape, drummed-up charges against them shouldn’t come as a surprise. But accusing the Russians of undermining American democracy and interfering in an election is tantamount to an act of war, and that simply is not going to wash.

This time, the United States is not demonizing an ideological enemy (USSR) or a religious one (al-Qaida, ISIS, etc.). It’s making this latest venture into the blackest of propaganda a race war, the way the Nazis made their invasion of Russia a race war in 1941, and that is not a war the United States can justify or win.

The level and shrillness of the latest disinformation campaign has been growing for some time. But the American public has lived in a culture of fake news (formerly known as propaganda) for so long many have grown to accept fake news as real news. George Orwell saw this coming, and here it is. As a big supporter of U.S. military intervention in Cuba and an avowed practitioner of “yellow journalism,” in 1897, William Randolph Hearst admonished the illustrator he’d sent to Cuba who’d found no war to illustrate: “You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war.” Hearst eventually got his war, and America’s experiment in imperialism was off and running. 

Americans should know by now that their country’s wars are fertile ground for biased, one-sided, xenophobic, fake news, and the United States has been in a permanent state of war since 1941. Although the targets have shifted over the years, the purpose of the propaganda hasn’t. Most cultures are coerced, cajoled or simply threatened into accepting known falsehoods demonizing their enemies during wartime. But no matter how frequently repeated or cleverly told, no lie can hold if the war never ends. The legendary cold warrior, Time and Life magazines’ Henry Luce (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013200859.png), considered his personal fight against Communism to be “a declaration of private war.” He’d even asked one of his executives whether or not the idea was probably “unlawful and probably mad?” Nonetheless, despite his doubts about his own sanity, Luce allowed the CIA to use his Time/Life magazines as a cover for the agency’s operations and to provide credentials to CIA personnel.  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-311013201314.png)

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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/american_imperialism_world_dantes_vision_of_hell_20170424
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on April 25, 2017, 07:48:25 pm
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[embed=640,380]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m115jFNN2E0[/embed]

https://youtu.be/m115jFNN2E0

https://www.yahoo.com/news/entire-u-senate-white-house-north-korea-briefing-150459069.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/entire-u-senate-white-house-north-korea-briefing-150459069.html)


Top Trump administration officials will hold a rare briefing on Wednesday at the White House for the entire U.S. Senate on the situation in North Korea, senior Senate aides said on Monday.

All 100 senators have been asked to the White House for the briefing by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the aides said.


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While top administration officials routinely travel to Capitol Hill to address members of Congress on foreign policy and national security matters, it is unusual for the entire 100-member Senate to go to such an event at the White House, and for those four top officials to be involved.


U.S. officials have expressed mounting concern    (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/www_MyEmoticons_com__fishing.gif)   (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png) over North Korea's nuclear and missile tests, and its threats to attack the United States and its Asian allies.



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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 10, 2017, 04:30:14 pm
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May 10, 2017

Trump's Cuts to Foreign Aid Threaten Global Health, Benefit War & Disaster Profiteers

https://youtu.be/Xd26Vx6RSv4

http://therealnews.com/t2/story:19056:Trump%27s-Cuts-to-Foreign-Aid-Threaten-Global-Health%2C-Benefit-War-%26-Disaster-Profiteers

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 21, 2017, 08:31:21 pm
Gorbachev: It Was Worse Than This, and We Fixed It

 
By davidswanson - Posted on 13 May 2017

By Дэвид Суонсон  (David Swanson)

On Friday in Moscow I and a group from the United States met with former president of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev. He said the current relationship between Washington and Moscow alarmed him. But, he said, it is possible to rebuild trust. “We had a situation that was worse, but we were able to rebuild trust. And people-to-people contacts helped to rebuild trust.”

When Gorbachev and U.S. President Ronald Reagan first met, presidents of the two countries had not met for six years. Members of Reagan’s cabinet opposed the meeting. Gorbachev came out of the meeting saying of Reagan “He’s not a hawk, he’s a dinosaur.” Reagan came out denouncing Gorbachev as “a die-hard communist.”

But they kept meeting. Eventually and inevitably Reagan asked what the Soviets would do if the U.S. were attacked by a meteor or aliens. Both men said their countries would help each other. However, Reagan was a fan of Star Wars, both the weapons boondoggle and the movie — which he may have kept distinct from each other in his mind. Gorbachev and Reagan accomplished a great deal of disarmament, not to mention Gorbachev’s accomplishing the nonviolent dissolution of an empire. But they could not get rid of all the nuclear weapons, and they could not take other serious steps in that direction, because Reagan was not willing, and the U.S. government was not willing.

Just as the climate of the culture of the day, as created by activists, journalists, citizen diplomats, and hundreds of other forces, may have mattered more to the disarmament efforts’ successes than the precise words or personalities in the negotiating room, the established war interests in Washington may have determined the failures more than anything else.

“When the Soviet Union broke up,” Gorbachev said on Friday, “many in the West were rubbing their hands together. That was immoral. Our country was in a severe crisis, and it was treated as an enemy.”

On Friday, Gorbachev faulted the same forces on both sides. “We both have the military industrial complex,” he said. “They want war, but we want peace.” He then quoted U.S. President John F. Kennedy saying that the peace we need is not a “Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war.” Gorbachev recounted telling Reagan the very same thing that Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov is reported as having said this week: “the era of a master-pupil relationship is long over.” Russians want peace, but they want peace among equals, not peace under somebody’s boot heel.

Gorbachev tried for peace, and had the United States fully reciprocated, it is conceivable that today weapons of war would be banned from the earth. For that effort, Gorbachev is not honored in his home country as much as around the world. And the U.S. refusal to accept peace and friendship is recognized and regretted least in the United States — greatly to our shame.

http://warisacrime.org/content/gorbachev-it-was-worse-and-we-fixed-it
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 30, 2017, 03:07:24 pm
Another Way Donald Pissed Off Germany

May 29th, 2017 by Steve Hanley

Originally published on Gas2.

Donald Trump is suffering from oral diarrhea again. On May 25, while attending a NATO function in Brussels, the braying jackass masquerading as America’s putative president told the assembled officials, “The Germans are bad, very bad. Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US. We will stop this.”

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Image by Kürschner, art produced and displayed in Germany  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)

His remarks were first reported by German newspaper Der Spiegel and some have suggested that translation issues may have been responsible for a misunderstanding. However, Der Spiegel claims a number of people heard The Donald’s intemperate remarks and interpreted them the same way. Remember, this is the same little boy in grownup clothes who handed Angela Merkel a bill for the cost of keeping American troops on German soil for the past 50 years when she visited Washington earlier this year.

This is not the first time Trump has had vacuous things to say about German carmakers. In January, he said much the same thing, complaining he sees nothing but Mercedes in Manhattan but no Cadillacs in Europe. He threatened back then to impose a 35% import duty on German cars, which spurred one German car company executive to quip that America should “build better cars.”

Trump repeated his threat to slap a high tariff on German cars again in Brussels, blissfully unaware that Volkswagen and BMW manufacture large number of cars in the US. His remarks are just another example of someone who shoots from the lip without any knowledge of the subject he is talking about. As one person commented on Jalopnik, “The working assumption now is that Donald Trump doesn’t know anything, period.”

“According to MIT’s Observatory of Economic Complexity, a visualization tool for international trade data, Germany has a $252 billion positive trade balance, with the majority of goods being cars, which make up 12 percent of all exports,” Jalopnik writes. “The top destination for German export goods, the OEC shows, is the U.S., representing 9.9 percent of all export value, or $122 billion.”

Trump’s director of the National Economic Council, Gary Cohn, says the press is blowing this all out of proportion. “He did say, ‘They’re very bad on trade,’” Cohn admits, but he claims his boss doesn’t have a problem with Germany. “He said his dad is from Germany. He said, ‘I don’t have a problem with Germany, I have a problem with German trade.’”

But another German newspaper, Sueddeutsche Zeitung, claims European officials who heard Trump’s remarks were horrified at our Dear Leader’s lack of the most basic understanding of international trade agreements. He continues to spout ignorance every time he opens his mouth and did little on his grand tour to the G7 meeting other than convince world leaders he is a dangerous lunatic who is best ignored. Sadly, America’s position on the world stage is being greatly diminished by Trump’s stupidity. Soon, the world will move on to more important things and leave America to stew in its own hyper-nationalistic juices.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/05/29/another-way-donald-pissed-off-germany/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 30, 2017, 11:18:43 pm
Another Way Donald Pissed Off Germany

May 29th, 2017 by Steve Hanley

Originally published on Gas2.

Donald Trump is suffering from oral diarrhea again. On May 25, while attending a NATO function in Brussels, the braying jackass masquerading as America’s putative president told the assembled officials, “The Germans are bad, very bad. Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US. We will stop this.”

(https://c1cleantechnicacom-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/files/2017/05/Trump-Germany-1.jpg)
Image by Kürschner, art produced and displayed in Germany  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)

His remarks were first reported by German newspaper Der Spiegel and some have suggested that translation issues may have been responsible for a misunderstanding. However, Der Spiegel claims a number of people heard The Donald’s intemperate remarks and interpreted them the same way. Remember, this is the same little boy in grownup clothes who handed Angela Merkel a bill for the cost of keeping American troops on German soil for the past 50 years when she visited Washington earlier this year.

This is not the first time Trump has had vacuous things to say about German carmakers. In January, he said much the same thing, complaining he sees nothing but Mercedes in Manhattan but no Cadillacs in Europe. He threatened back then to impose a 35% import duty on German cars, which spurred one German car company executive to quip that America should “build better cars.”

Trump repeated his threat to slap a high tariff on German cars again in Brussels, blissfully unaware that Volkswagen and BMW manufacture large number of cars in the US. His remarks are just another example of someone who shoots from the lip without any knowledge of the subject he is talking about. As one person commented on Jalopnik, “The working assumption now is that Donald Trump doesn’t know anything, period.”

“According to MIT’s Observatory of Economic Complexity, a visualization tool for international trade data, Germany has a $252 billion positive trade balance, with the majority of goods being cars, which make up 12 percent of all exports,” Jalopnik writes. “The top destination for German export goods, the OEC shows, is the U.S., representing 9.9 percent of all export value, or $122 billion.”

Trump’s director of the National Economic Council, Gary Cohn, says the press is blowing this all out of proportion. “He did say, ‘They’re very bad on trade,’” Cohn admits, but he claims his boss doesn’t have a problem with Germany. “He said his dad is from Germany. He said, ‘I don’t have a problem with Germany, I have a problem with German trade.’”

But another German newspaper, Sueddeutsche Zeitung, claims European officials who heard Trump’s remarks were horrified at our Dear Leader’s lack of the most basic understanding of international trade agreements. He continues to spout ignorance every time he opens his mouth and did little on his grand tour to the G7 meeting other than convince world leaders he is a dangerous lunatic who is best ignored. Sadly, America’s position on the world stage is being greatly diminished by Trump’s stupidity. Soon, the world will move on to more important things and leave America to stew in its own hyper-nationalistic juices.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/05/29/another-way-donald-pissed-off-germany/


Good Point.

What could trump have meant?  Is he not a free-trade capitalist?  Was the trade deal between US and Germany not negotiated and sign off by both sides?  Is no one allowed to export more than they import otherwise the US will impose tariffs to even things up?


Trump is a  liar. He is also a bully. Scratch a bully and you find a coward. His mission was to offend those that threaten polluter interests in the USA (and Russia). Do you think that shove Trumpy gave the Montenegro guy was extemporaneous? Montenegro is on  the Paruski poop list right now. Trumpy is just showing his loyalty to the mafia that owns him. And as for Germany, they have managed to really make the polluters in the USA lose a lot of money with the popularity and growth of Energiewende.

Trumpy "wrote" a book some years ago about negotiation. Part of his approach is, of course, intimidation. But he isn't stupid enough to not check out who he is going to intimidate before he puts on the performance of being a loose cannon with no holds barred. That's all show business for the rubes. When the doors are closed, he says he wants this and that and he will make life real hard for the other party if they don't go along to get along.

At that point in the negotiation, the other party gets huffy and Trumpy puts on the charm to "compromise" with what he was expecting to accomplish from the start.

HOWEVER, when he has NO INTENTION of negotiating anything at all, and is, instead, on a mission to denigrate some party that is giving those that own him some heartburn, he just plays the bull in a China shop  routine. That's what all that noise about "trade" with Germany was about.

All that works in the corrupt world of business oligarchs. However, diplomacy is more nuanced than Trumpy can handle, IMHO.  Trumpy's big problem is that he thinks ANY publicity is "good" publicity, like show ratings. In politics, people have longer memories and loyalties of diplomats are not always a function of how much bribes they get. So Trumpy really messed up in carrying water for polluters. That will help bring him down  HERE due to a cascade of complex diplomatic back channel loyalties  people HERE have with Europe.

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Germans are not a people to be trifled with. They have a lot more influence in the USA than Trump and his Wrecking Crew can afford to ignore or deliberately offend. They will enthusiastically help sabotage everything he wants to do for his fascist polluter owners. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/maniac.gif)

All that is just my opinion, which you probably totally disagree with. ;D  But so far, Trumpy is acting pretty much in the exact way I expected him to when I told Golden Oxen in November of 2016, right after the election, that Trump would be pure poison for this country.

The longer he stays, the worse things will get HERE. But perhaps that will work out to Russia's benefit. I certainly don't see a long Trump presidency doing anything but bringing utter chaos to the USA. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-200714183337.bmp)


Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on May 31, 2017, 02:45:10 pm
Jimmy Carter Brilliantly Explains How The Establishment Gave Us Trump

https://youtu.be/XhebmG148Zo

Published on May 11, 2017

I don't know that much about Jimmy Carter, other than that he had solar hot water heaters installed on the White House roof and that Raygun had them removed.  He's spot on with his analysis of Dump and how he got into office.  Although I honestly still don't believe that they count votes.  Not that it matters with the Corporatocracies lobbyists doing their evil work. 

After watching the above video I watched another from the same dude.  In it Jimmy Carter stated that he never fired a bullet, missile, or dropped a bomb while in office.  He never did any violence anywhere is the boast.  If that's true its amazing.  Here was a president, who managed to not get assassinated, and was a proponent for non-interventionism, non-violence, and renewable energy.  It's a wonder to me that he made it out alive

I was a crazy Republican "supply sider" (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/gen152.gif) back then. I was rooting for Reagan and had no love for Carter. It was well over a decade later that I began to connect the dots on how I had been brainwashed against Carter by the media. Carter made a lot of enemies in the fossil fuel fascists so they went to town to bring him down. Of course NONE of this was framed as a pollution solution versus more fossil fuel subsidy swag on behalf of profit over people and planet. BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT! Carter was framed, as Eddie mentions below, as mealy mouthed, incompetent, etc. Actually, none of that was true. In fact, Carter's competence was severely undermining the profit over planet oligarchic power base (although Carter was way too nice to the Military). Yes, inflation was through the roof, but that was not as big a deal as the Republican crooks and liars try to make it out to be. Inflation was HIGH because all those union contracts out there AND the Cost of Living Allowance math FORCED the Capitalists IN AND OUTSIDE OF GOVERNMENT to PAY their employees decent wages. ALL that changed to the massive economic attack on we-the-people by Reagan and Greenspan. During the entire Reagan/Bush onslaught, the fossil fuel industry was coddled, babied, given all sorts of extra breaks and generally welfare queened back to the prominence they had LOST during the Carter years.

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People talk about "Wall Street" crooked banks back then without realizing that the lion's share of the crookedness of those banks was connected to the aiding and abetting of  the fossil fuel industry fascists. But never mind that now. Let me answer you and Eddie about the heat Carter took (see after Eddie;s comment). 

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He took a lot of heat for not attacking Iran when they took the hostages at the US Embassy. At the time I thought he was being a wuss...but in hindsight, not so much.

The claim that Carter didn't kill anyone or engage in warlike activity is true because of accidental circumstances, not because Carter was not ready, willing and able to kill for empire. His plan to rescue the hostages in Iran failed because of engine failure on one of the aircraft going in low over the desert. They had planned something like the Son Tay raid of Vietnam days, where two of our biggest choppers accompanied by a C130 for air to air refueling went in to rescue the POWs. They got in and out okay but the POWs had been moved a day earlier (the drones we launched routinely from B52s to take pictures  of the prison only did it about once a week).
 
So Carter tried the same thing, which would have certainly resulted in a LOT of dead Iranians, but the C130 crashed in the Iranian desert somewhere and the choppers had to rescue the the downed crewmen. Carter would have won the election if that C130 had not crashed because the fire power in those flying machines was adequate for the rescue task.

The failure was seized upon by Reagan, Bush and CIA Fossil fuel fascist company to denigrate Carter. It worked. Reagan won the election. I was one of the idiots that voted for him.  :-[

The other part about Bush COMMITTING TREASON by negotiating with the Iranians in Paris, BEFORE the election, to NOT release the POWs until Reagan was inaugurated, came out over a decade later. And anybody that understands how Bush (former CIA director and always loyal to war and fossil fuel fascists) operated, SHOULD be able to put two and two together and realize that there is a near 100% probability that Bush, KNOWING of the planned hostage rescue attempt in advance, MADE SURE that C130 had "engine failure". (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-280515145049.png)  (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-051113192052.png)

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But for what it's worth, Carter was logical and reasonable in regard to pollution and renewable energy, BUT he pushed for, AND OBTAINED, some of the biggest budgets for the "defense" department that this country had seen up until then. For him to say he didn't shoot anybody might be technically true, but the fact that he massively increased the funding and the size of the M.I.C. means his hands are as dirty as any president who did deliberately kill for empire like Reagan (and Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, Bush, Clinton, Shrub, Obama and Grumpy Trumpy).

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Carter should keep his mouth SHUT about his contributions to "peace" while POTUS.

Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 09, 2017, 12:31:41 pm
NEWLY THREATENED BY TERROR, IRAN’S COLD CONFLICT WITH SAUDI ARABIA COULD ESCALATE
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Murtaza Hussain

June 8 2017, 1:23 p.m.

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/08/terror-iran-saudi-arabia-isis-al-qaeda-trump/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 10, 2017, 09:39:13 pm
Max Blumenthal - What’s Really Going on In Iran & Qatar? ???

https://youtu.be/au2NF5mDdd4

Jun. 7, 2017 4:52 pm

Big Picture Interview: Max Blumenthal, Senior Editor-AlterNet's Grayzone Project/ Author-The 51 Day War: Ruin and Resistance in Gaza. Iran is blaming Saudi Arabia and by proxy the United States today after ISIS killed 12 people and wounded 42 more in a brazen attack in heart of Tehran. In a statement - Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards drew a direct connection between this morning's slaughter and Donald Trump's recent trip to Saudi Arabia - and said that "the fact that the Islamic State has claimed responsibility proves that they [the Saudis] were involved in the brutal attack.” So - were they?
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 12, 2017, 11:15:10 pm
Is Trump a Traitor for the Russians?

https://youtu.be/JIL11Fsh5EA

Jun. 11, 2017

Agelbert Note: Trump is the enemy, not Russia.
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 13, 2017, 03:01:12 pm
Shipping Routes via Oman Opened to Give Qatar Food Lifeline (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-080515182559.png)

June 12, 2017 by Reuters

http://gcaptain.com/shipping-routes-via-oman-opened-give-qatar-food-lifeline/
Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on June 19, 2017, 04:52:20 pm
The reason we are still in Afghanistan and other war zones...

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Title: Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
Post by: AGelbert on July 25, 2017, 02:06:57 pm
Agelbert NOTE: This WEAPON is very good news for the biosphere.(http://www.bativert.ma/images/image3.jpg)   (http://www.coh2.org/images/Smileys/huhsign.gif)


WHY? Because it means LESS physical amunition in practice or in combat that pollutes. AND, this laser will require a LOT of electricity, which means ships will habe more and more Solar power capturing technology on board, instead of diesel. Finally, at about ONE DOLLAR a shot  :o   (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif), the operation of this weapon will be very cheap.  ;D

WATCH: U.S. Navy Tests First Anti-Drone Laser Weapon

July 24, 2017 by gCaptain

Check out this story from CNN on the U.S. Navy’s first active laser weapon. The cutting-edge prototype Laser Weapon System (LaWS), developed by the Navy’s Office of Naval Research, was first deployed aboard the USS Ponce in 2014, and is operated by a video-game like controller, and can address multiple threats using a range of escalating options, from non-lethal measures such as optical “dazzling” and disabling, to lethal destruction if necessary. During live tests, the LaWS was used to hit targets mounted aboard a speeding oncoming small boat, shoot a Scan Eagle unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) out of the sky, and destroy other moving targets at sea.

https://youtu.be/9ElNjgZCDpQ

http://gcaptain.com/watch-u-s-navy-tests-first-anti-drone-laser-weapon/