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Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 23, 2017, 03:34:08 pm »


Meet the 4 Horsemen of the EPA-pocalypse

By Mary Anne Hitt

Every week, another decision that endangers our families seems to come out of Scott Pruitt's  and Donald Trump's U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

The latest facepalm/outrage comes in the form of confirmation hearings that start this week for four completely unacceptable nominees to critical leadership positions at EPA.

This Wednesday, Sep. 20, the Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works will decide whether to confirm Bill Wehrum to lead the EPA's Office of Air and Radiation, David Ross as chief of the EPA's Office of Water, and Michael Dourson to head up the agency's chemical safety programs. Later this month, they will hold a hearing on the nomination of Andrew Wheeler as EPA's deputy administrator, the agency's second-in-command.

We can thank EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt for these four horsemen of the EPA-pocalypse—four people who will gladly choose polluters over public health and clean air and water standards every time.

Andrew Wheeler, who Pruitt has tapped for the number two spot at EPA, was described by the Washington Post as a "longtime coal lobbyist" and has worked on behalf of a company which reportedly has numerous environmental and worker safety violations. Wheeler has spent his career challenging vital life-saving environmental protections that keep our air and water clean so that we can keep our families safe (I wrote this post about him earlier this summer). He also used to be an aide for outspoken climate-denying and corporate-polluter-loving senator, James Inhofe.

Bill Wehrum, Pruitt's pick to head up the office in charge of enforcing the Clean Air Act and keeping your air safe to breathe, is a lobbyist who represents a host of coal, oil, gas, and chemical companies, and was a former George W. Bush-era EPA official. If you recognize his name, it's because he was also nominated to this position in 2006—his nomination was withdrawn when he failed to earn support of the 60 Senators needed for confirmation.

And while he's nominated to lead the EPA's air and radiation office, ironically enough, he's said that the Clean Air Act shouldn't apply to the carbon pollution that contributes to climate change and superstorms like Hurricane Harvey. As my friend John Walke at NRDC put it, Wehrum "is an industry lawyer who was largely responsible for the Bush EPA's record of violating the Clean Air Act more often, and allowing more illegal emissions of harmful air pollution, than any EPA administration before or since."

David Ross, nominated for for the top spot at the Office of Water, has sued the EPA many times related to its clean water safeguards in his work representing fossil fuel states like Wyoming, including challenging the Clean Water Rule and the Chesapeake Bay cleanup program (he lost the latter lawsuit, which the court called "long on swagger, but short on specificity"). According to E&E News, he "has represented states and industry in lawsuits against the agency—some of which were filed by then-Oklahoma Attorney General and now EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt."

Finally, Michael Dourson is on deck to head up the EPA division that oversees the chemical industry, called the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention. According to the Environmental Defense Fund, "Dourson has extensive, longstanding ties to the chemical industry (as well as earlier ties to the tobacco industry). He also has a history of failing to appropriately address his conflicts of interest." The first example they cite hits close to home for me as a West Virginian—they report he was the sole spokesperson for an expert panel studying the 2014 Elk River chemical spill but failed to disclose, until cornered by a reporter, that he had previously "done paid work for both of the companies that produced the chemicals involved in the spill."

In addition, Dourson has spent much of his professional career writing studies that undermine existing science and concerns about toxic chemicals, and call for weaker regulations on chemicals like pesticides. As our friends at the United Farm Workers explain, Dourson was paid by Dow Agrosciences to downplay concerns about a toxic pesticide and cast doubt on a Columbia University study linking exposure to it by pregnant women to irreversible neurodevelopmental problems in children—in other words, to hide the fact that the pesticide is dangerous to kids. As you may have heard, in a highly controversial move the EPA recently reversed restrictions on the use of this pesticide, called chlorpyrifos, shortly after meeting with officials from Dow.

Senators shouldn't get fooled—Scott Pruitt has seized the EPA and is trying to install polluter lobbyists in key positions. We can't let dirty fuel lobbyists win—we need the Senate to draw the line and reject these nominations.

Mary Anne Hitt is the director of the Sierra Club Beyond Coal Campaign.


Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 21, 2017, 10:39:27 pm »

Germany Wants To Know If Americans Have Gone Crazy Electing Donald Trump

Sep. 19, 2017 5:00 pm

Thom returns from with questions from the German public, HAS AMERICA GONE INSANE electing Donald Trump? What are the consequences of this going to be not just for America but for the world?

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 19, 2017, 07:06:23 pm »

This is the Legend Of Colin Kaepernick (w/Guest Rock Newman  )

Sep. 18, 2017 4:00 pm

Alex is joined by Rock Newman to discuss the a skilled worker being denied a job because of his political beliefs, the NFL and Colin Kaepernick.
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 17, 2017, 02:41:42 pm »

Agelbert NOTE: A film that accurately predicted what is happening in the Fascist USA RIGHT NOW.

Don't Be a Sucker - 1947

Don't Be a Sucker - 1947


Weirdo Video

Published on Sep 29, 2007

In this anti-fascist film produced by US Military in the wake of WWII, the producers deconstruct the politically motivated social engineering of Germany by the Nazi regime.

Its argument is just as timely today.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 14, 2017, 11:27:58 pm »

Robert Reich: The Resistance Report 9/13/2017

Inequality Media Civic Action

Published on Sep 13, 2017

Join me for today’s Resistance Report, where we’ll be tracking issues we must not lose sight of: news on the Emoluments clause, an update on Medicare-for-all, dangerous new provisions in the Republican budget proposal, and more.
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 14, 2017, 10:49:36 pm »

Why We Must Talk About Trump’s Mental Health | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Sep 6, 2017

A majority of Americans now think he’s “unstable.” Yet we’ve decided this topic is somehow taboo?

Trump Will Soon Be the Ex-POTUS | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Sep 7, 2017

Despite the distractions, Trump's Russia troubles are growing much worse.

How Did Trump Remember 9/11? | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Sep 11, 2017

He hardly did.

Robert Mueller is Zeroing in on Trump’s Cover Up | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Sep 12, 2017

The outlines of the case that Robert Mueller must be building can now be glimpsed.

The Media Doesn’t Understand What Trump is Doing | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Sep 13, 2017

Donald Trump’s not pivoting. He’s not changing. He’s just crazy.

It’s Now Dawned on Trump: People Hate Him | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Sep 14, 2017

In a flash of strange self-awareness, Donald Trump acknowledges the truth.
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:46:23 pm »


Republicans Won't Let Americans Vote (w/Guest Jason Kander)

Sep. 12, 2017 3:02 pm

Thom speaks with Jason Kander ( former Secretary of State (D-MO)/President-Let America Vote & Chair-DNC's Commission to Protect American Democracy) on voter intimidation, suppression and efforts by Republicans that make it harder for people to vote.
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 12, 2017, 08:16:43 pm »


SEP 11, 2017

On 9/11: How We Hyped Terrorism and Slighted the Real Threat: Climate Change


But in the meantime, burning fossil fuels has been causing some 200,000 premature deaths each year. The plain way of putting it is that driving our cars and heating or cooling our homes is killing people ten years before their time. It is killing nearly 0.1% of the American population each year. That is more than the nearly 3,000 killed in 2001. And it is every year. Since 9/11, in other words, by burning fossil fuels at such a furious rate, by burning coal to make electricity and gasoline to move automobiles, we have sent 3,200,000 Americans to an early grave.

But that death toll is tiny compared to the Climate Genocide our political leaders and captains of industry have planned for us. The United States is emitting 5.4 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide each year. The world is emitting some 45 billion metric tons of CO2. That heats up the oceans, which in turn put more water vapor in the air and support more destructive hurricanes. It also raises the sea level by melting surface ice and by increasing the volume of the sea water itself (warm water takes up more space).

One storm, fed by the extra warm water of the Caribbean, Harvey, appears to have caused $180 billion worth of damage. It totaled one million automobiles! Harvey was a 1 in 500 years storm. But then Irma was likewise. At one point it just sped along for days at 185 m/h, at a combined speed and duration that has never before been recorded.

Harvey comes after Hurricane Sandy, which caused $120 bn.in damage. Sandy was able to get all the way up to New York City because the Atlantic has warmed up. In the old days New York water would have been cold and would have stopped the Hurricane from getting that far north.

The United State should have swung into action in the 1970s when Exxon (was it Esso then?) scientists discovered that burning fossil fuels was causing global heating. We needed a Manhattan Project in the Reagan years to develop solar and wind. It did not happen. Reagan and Bush were in the back pockets of Big Oil.

Since 1977, 50 years ago, have we put 25 trillion metric tons of carbon dioxide into our atmosphere? That kind of concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is like setting off large numbers of atomic bombs. It makes it hot.

We haven’t spent $4-6 trillion on fighting climate change, even though burning fossil fuels polishes off 200,000 Americans a year and even though extreme weather is submerging cities like Houston and Miami from time to time, and will do so with increasing frequency.

It isn’t just storms. The American West has suffered from a long drought and an unusual number of fires in recent years. These phenomena, like the storms, are not caused by man-made climate change. There have been hurricanes and wildfires all along. Climate change is just prolonging them and making them worse. It is adding to their severity and longevity by a certain percentage– 10%? 30%.

Global heating will go on increasing and producing extreme weather. In 1750 there were 270 parts per million of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. It is now 410 ppm, the highest it has been for three million years. But the earth hasn’t yet heated up to the degree that such a high amount of CO2 in the atmosphere would predict. It will take centuries for that number to be translated into surface heat. All of Antarctica is going to melt. All of Greenland. Talk about a storm surge!

So we went in the wrong direction. Instead of invading and occupying Iraq, we should have created an army of scientists and engineers to invent better solar panels and better wind turbines and better batteries. The threat won’t come for the most part from hijacked jets. It will come from an atmosphere made angry and vengeful by our burning of fossil fuels. We should have been sending in the national guard to shut down the coal plants. We should have been banning gasoline cars.

Full article:


Agelbert NOTE: The following quote from a peer reviewed book is of extreme importance to all Americans:

Dilworth (2010-03-12). Too Smart for our Own Good (pp. 399-400). Cambridge University Press. Kindle Edition.

"As suggested earlier, war, for example, which represents a cost for society, is a source of profit to capitalists. In this way we can partly understand e.g. the American military expenditures in the Persian Gulf area. Already before the first Gulf War, i.e. in 1985, the United States spent $47 billion projecting power into the region. If seen as being spent to obtain Gulf oil, It AMOUNTED TO $468 PER BARREL, or 18 TIMES the $27 or so that at that time was paid for the oil itself.

In fact, if Americans had spent as much to make buildings heat-tight as they spent in ONE YEAR at the end of the 1980s on the military forces meant to protect the Middle Eastern oil fields, THEY COULD HAVE ELIMINATED THE NEED TO IMPORT OIL from the Middle East.

So why have they not done so? Because, while the $468 per barrel may be seen as being a cost the American taxpayers had to bear, and a negative social effect those living in the Gulf area had to bear, it meant only profits for American capitalists. "

Note: I added the bold caps emphasis on the barrel of oil price, money spent in one year and the need to import oil from the Middle East.

This totally unjustified profit, never mind the needless lose of lives, then increases the power of the fossil fuel corporations to perpetuate a biosphere harming dirty fuel status quo. How? By "funding" politicians with rather large "donations" to keep renewable energy from competing with dirty energy.

If all this was just about power politics, I might not be that concerned. Humans, particularly the overly ambitious and aggressive ones, have always fought and schemed to control and fleece the population at large.

But now we know the future of our biosphere is at stake. Now we know the entire edifice of dirty energy is a knife in the back of the biosphere that will destroy our species and many others.

The system, as defined by the fossil fuel fascist dystopia that currently runs most of the human affairs among the 1 billion population in the developed world that is saddling the other 6 billion, who are totally free of guilt for causing it, with this climate horror we are beginning to experience, IS quite stubborn and does not wish to change the status quo.

Mother nature will force it to do so.

Whether it is done within the next two decades or not (i.e. a switch to 100% PLUS bioremediation Renewable Energy steady state economy) will dictate the size of the consequent die off, not only of humans but thousands of other species as well.

We are now in a climate cake that has been baked for about 1,000 years according to atmospheric, objective, proven with experimental data, science.

The Fossil Fuelers DID THE Clean Energy  Inventions suppressing, Climate Trashing, human health depleting CRIME,   but since they have ALWAYS BEEN liars and conscience free crooks, they are trying to AVOID   DOING THE TIME or     PAYING THE FINE!     Don't let them get away with it! Pass it on!   


Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 09, 2017, 02:07:34 pm »

September 8, 2017

Puerto Rico Drowning in Debt: Irma Deepens the Crisis

Mark Weisbrot says debt cancellation and restructuring will be the only answer to rebuild Puerto Rico

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 08, 2017, 08:00:37 pm »

September 7, 2017

Clinton Attacks Sanders in New Book -- RAI With Thomas Frank (2/6)

On Reality Asserts Itself, Thomas Frank  , author of 'What's the Matter with Kansas?' and 'Listen, Liberal,' and Paul Jay discuss Hillary Clinton's new book 'What Happened,' and identify the real differences between Clinton and Sanders.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 04, 2017, 07:37:12 pm »

Agelbert NOTE: To be filed in the same category as questions about bears going poop in the woods.  ;D

Is Trump mentally unfit to properly run this country?

Jim Brasseur, Retired U.S. Naval Officer and Physician Assistant (1969-present)

Updated Aug 24, 2017

While I have had the privilege of over 45 years of medical practice, I do not believe that I have anywhere near the psychiatric or psychological experience to provide a knowledgeable clinical opinion of Mr. Trump’s mental fitness.

On the other hand, as a well experienced 67 year old American, my opinion is that Mr. Trump is screwy as a loon, is a threat to this country and the world and he shouldn't be allowed to lead a ghost town in Death Valley where he was the only occupant, let alone the United States.

It'd be one thing if he were just a clown, but given his actions to date and the global political environment, he is remarkably dangerous.

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Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 03, 2017, 08:59:25 pm »

Democracy Now!

Published on Aug 30, 2017

John Nichols: "Horsemen of the Trumpocalypse: A Field Guide to the Most Dangerous People in America"

How Trump Could Bring About The Apocalypse! (w/Guest John Nichols)

Thom Hartmann Program

Published on Aug 31, 2017

Thom speaks to long time friend and author John Nichols on his new book, Horsemen of the Trumpocalypse and the Trump Regime's plan to privatize and militarize space!
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 09:29:34 pm »

Robert Reich: The Resistance Report 8/30/2017

Inequality Media Civic Action

Published on Aug 30, 2017

Join me for today’s Resistance Report, where we’ll be talking about Hurricane Harvey, Trump’s climate policies, and more.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 09:11:36 pm »

Robert Reich: The Resistance Report 8/28/2017

Inequality Media Civic Action

Published on Aug 28, 2017

Join us today as we talk about the ongoing investigation into Trump’s business dealings with Russia and how Trump is responding by riling up his base.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:56:24 pm »

Would Impeaching Trump Truly Lead to Civil War?

GQ Published on Aug 30, 2017

Roger Stone may think so—but here’s why that doomsday scenario of violence is nuts.

Could Trump Try to Pardon… Everyone?

GQ Published on Aug 31, 2017

As Mueller closes in, the president's desperate options are about to grow thin.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:42:07 pm »

What Trump’s Trip to Texas Revealed

The Resistance with Keith Olbermann

Published on Aug 29, 2017

The president’s response to this natural disaster was its own disaster.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:30:04 pm »

For Whom Has Trump Made America Great?

GQ Published on Aug 28, 2017

The matter of good and evil is more inescapable with each passing week.
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:25:27 pm »

Who’s Backing Away From Trump? Everyone

The Resistance with Keith Olbermann

GQ Published on Aug 23, 2017

There’s a stampede underway. To get as far away from Trump as possible.
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:21:10 pm »

The Trump Resignation End-Game?

The Resistance with Keith Olbermann

GQ Published on Aug 22, 2017

When it ends, Trump's presidency is going to end quicker than we think.
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: September 01, 2017, 07:32:54 pm »

Ted Cruz IMPLODES on Live TV Over Hurricane Hypocrisy

Ted Cruz is a LIAR and a CROOK!
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 21, 2017, 02:18:08 pm »

"Any organization that disagrees with Trump, gets cut  .  Business committees, arts, and now science."

Even as reports from federal agencies demonstrate that the global climate scenario is becoming increasingly alarming, President Donald Trump has decided to continue the "wave of destruction" his administration is inflicting on the environment—and on the agencies tasked with studying climate change—by disbanding the federal advisory panel for the National Climate Assessment, which was tasked with helping government translate climate findings into plans for action.

As the Washington Post reported, the "charter for the 15-person Advisory Committee for the Sustained National Climate Assessment—which includes academics as well as local officials and corporate representatives—expires Sunday," and the Trump administration has decided the panel will not be renewed.

The Post continued:

    The National Climate Assessment is supposed to be issued every four years but has come out only three times since passage of the 1990 law calling for such analysis. The next one, due for release in 2018, already has become a contentious issue for the Trump administration.

    Administration officials are currently reviewing a scientific report that is key to the final document. Known as the Climate Science Special Report, it was produced by scientists from 13 different federal agencies and estimates that human activities were responsible for an increase in global temperatures of 1.1 to 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit from 1951 to 2010.

Recent reports have indicated that the Trump administration—more specifically Scott Pruitt, head of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)—is taking direction from Big Oil, so the move to disband a key climate advisory board was not met with surprise by scientists and commentators.

Still, many expressed alarm at the speed with which the Trump administration is moving to dismantle what is left of Obama-era rules designed to protect the water and the air from dangerous pollutants.

The administration's decision to disband the federal advisory panel for the National Climate Assessment is just part of this broader deregulatory agenda, which will have both immediate and long-term effects, scientists warn.

"I think it's going to be a serious handicap for us that the advisory committee is not functional,"  Richard Wright, former chair of the American Society of Civil Engineers' Committee on Adaptation to a Changing Climate, told the Post.

For Ed Murray, the Democratic mayor of Seattle, the move is just another example of Trump "stepping away from reality."


Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 16, 2017, 03:12:59 pm »

GREAT posts from K-Dog and Surly!  

Yes, saying both sides are responsible for a murder was beyond stupid of him.

If I was within 500 miles of that Robert E. Lee statue that statue would be having a new coat of red paint.  Blood red.

Hint Hint Surly.  How far away are you?

Three hours. Locals are doing what they can.

K-Dog , glad to see you on the side of the angels here.   

Surly, thank you for tirelessly continuing to fight the good fight. Watch your back, bro.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 15, 2017, 10:58:38 pm »

Trump And Charlottesville: Too Little, Too Late | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ

Published on Aug 14, 2017

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 15, 2017, 10:19:24 pm »

Agelbert NOTE: Please watch these videos from Thom Hartmann. They get right to the root of WHY this old FASCIST oligarchic tool of racist divide and conquer evil continues today to get Americans to fight each other, instead of bringing the Oligarchs to justice. Organized racism is FUNDED by the FASCIST Oligarchs!

August 14, 2017

Thom speaks with guest Mark Potok (Writer, speaker, former organizer with Southern Poverty Law Center.) on the disturbing white supremacist violence over the weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia and how it is related to Donald Trump and other republicans.

Thom looks at the history the violence of overt white supremacists and the support they've received from leading right wing institutions including the media and the police since the Greensboro Massacre in 1979 all leading up to the tragic murder of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville this past weekend.

Thom speaks with a caller who witnessed the tragic terror attack carried out by white supremacist over the weekend in Charlottesville, echoing the sentiments that fascism must be stopped at all cost.

Thom talks with Dr Randy Blazak on the fascist strategy of using free speech as a way to legitimize themselves and continue a conversation that we shouldn't even be having.

What We Can Do To Stop Fascism
Thom Hartmann takes your calls and answers a question on the mind of viewers and listeners around the world. What can we do to stop Fascism?
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 11, 2017, 08:06:06 pm »

Republicans Have Weaponized the Criminal Justice System (w/guest Gov. Don Siegelman)

Aug. 10, 2017 5:00 pm

Thom speaks with guest Don Siegelman  (Former Governor - Alabama, 1999-2003, profiled in the new documentary, Atticus v. the Architect: The Political Assassination of Don Siegelman).

Please go to http://free-don.org/ and sign the Petition  to allow the film in Montgomery:Stop Censorship: Urge Capri Theatre in Alabama to Show Siegelman Documentary Film
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 10, 2017, 07:53:22 pm »

The Political Assassination of Governor Don Siegelman

Aug. 9, 2017 5:00 pm

Thom is joined by guest Steve Wimberly (Director/Producer - Atticus v. the Architect: The Political Assassination of Governor Don Siegelman) to talk about the complete prosecutorial attack on Don Siegelman by his political enemies.

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 06, 2017, 03:45:35 pm »

Why don't liberals admit that President Trump is and will be a good president and will make America great again? 


Bill Allen

Updated Jul 18, 2017

I'm 57 years old and was born under the Dwight Eisenhower administration. I'm also a registered Republican and always have been since I voted for Reagan in 1980. Though he's been in office just 6 months, Donald Trump is (hands down) easily the worst president of my entire life! Not only do I say this because he's accomplished almost nothing so far (granted, I will give him Gorsuch as his only accomplishment ), but he has the most serious credibility problem. 16 or 17 Republicans as nominees, and the man who was the worst candidate of all was chosen.

I think there's a fair chance he will be impeached with this Russian scandal too.

Most importantly, the key ingredient the POTUS needs—whether I agree with his policies or not—is integrity. Trump has zero integrity and is a chronic liar. He talks like he's in the 3rd grade and is an utter embarrassment to us as Americans. In fact, he’s turned out worse than I ever imagined.

His arrogance, his narcissism, his bravado, his stupidity make him probably the worst president in US history.

So the real question is “"Why are his supporters so blind and so stupid that they fail to see just how bad of a president he's been over the last half year?” And the only answer I can give is that these people must be watching Fox News. What you get from Fox News is an entity pretending to give us accurate news. But instead, they've followed the mantra of Joseph Goebbels (go look him up if you've never heard of him). Sean Hannity is Joseph Goebbels incarnate.

One more thing…as a Christian I'm absolutely appalled and puzzled as to why the evangelical community is so supportive of this man as president when he lacks such integrity. Evangelicals should know better and should be ashamed themselves for this. Trump bears no redeeming qualities that Jesus talks about. He lacks humility, he is arrogant, he puts himself in front of others. he is such a narcissist. Please go back to the Gospels and read the beatitudes of Jesus. Please!  

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: August 02, 2017, 09:59:39 pm »

Noam Chomsky on DemocracyNOW! 

Noam Chomsky (July 30, 2017) - President Donald Trump & America 2017

Posted by: AGelbert
« on: July 31, 2017, 05:40:00 pm »

Fired BEFORE his official START DATE! LOL!

Down Goes the Mooch! | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Jul 31, 2017

The chaos comes at you quick, right? Anthony Scaramucci, "The Mooch," is out. Who will be in?
Posted by: AGelbert
« on: July 30, 2017, 05:38:18 pm »

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