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Re: War Provocations and Peace Actions
« Reply #255 on: February 26, 2019, 08:15:42 pm »
Originally published on the Doomstead Diner on February 26, 2019

Surly1 is an administrator and contributing author to Doomstead Diner. He is the author of numerous rants, screeds and spittle-flecked invective here and elsewhere. He lives a quiet domestic existence in Southeastern Virginia with his wife Contrary. Descended from a long line of people to whom one could never tell anything, all opinions are his and his alone, because he paid full retail for everything he has managed to learn.

Excellent summary of our not good state of affairs.

Another Masterpiece!  ;D

I still disagree with XRM's assessment that migration from SA is Climate-Driven.  It is primarily IMHO Population Overshoot, Economics & Politics driving it.


Thank you. In re the causes, I tend to agree with you and Eddie. When Eddie made that observation earlier, I thought he was right, but I've been busy and didn't 't comment. 

The proximate age cause of the emigration, IMO, is Uncle Fuc king Cracker's foreign policy, which has been one of in terminable meddling such that life is intolerable in Central America. People are fleeing from gangs, which flourish in a state of lawlessness and the collapse of order. Families presenting themselves seeking asylum (lawfully, BTW) at the border from countries like Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala leave behind a myriad of stories, most connected to their homelandsí plague of armed violence.

Back in the day, Central Americans migrated for economic reasons. Since the end of internal armed conflicts in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Nicaragua (fomented by Uncle Sugar), thousands of Central Americans travelled to the U.S. to escape economic misery, to earn a buck and send some home. Nowadays there are fewer male migrants in their 20s-30s saddling up, and many more families, newborns, children, and pregnant women escaping life-or-death situations as much as poverty. There's your fuc king "caravan."

Who foments violence in these countries? Then same bully who has fomented violence and picked sides in the America's ever since James Monroe sh it loose a Doctrine. The Mexican War was unleashed by Polk in large measure to fuel the insatiable westward expansion of the US, and to appease American citizens in the south wished to gain more "slave states" in order to increase their political power. American arms prevailed, the Mexican cession gave us California, Nevada and Utah, and parts of Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming. Spoils of war, etc.A d Uncle Sam learned an important lesson.

The FSoA doesn''t seem to be able to keep its fingers out of the panties of these countries. U.S. meddling leads to lawlessness and extreme insecurity leading to the expansion of gangs like MS-13 and others. Working g class people in these countries have to spend hard-earned money on private transport or after-school programs to avoid their kids coming into contact with criminal groups. Not as simple as sending yourmkids to school on the cheese wagon and not worrying about their safety for six hours.

In El Salvador, where one article I read had it that there are around 65,000 thousand active gang members, with a social support base of half a million people. Boys from 12 years up are prime targets for recruitment. Girls can also be targeted at an early age, either to be sexually abused or to become gang members. Little wonder these people want to get out. These gangs flourish in the absence of an effective government. Wouldn't you?

I can make a far stronger argument that climate change is a larger factor for emigration from the Middle East, especially Syria, tha. it is in Central America.

Yet for all this, I did like Xraymike''s piece.

Well said.

Noam Chomsky - History of US Rule 🦍😈👹🍌🏴‍☠️ in Latin America



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History of US Rule in Latin America; Elections and Resistance to the Coup in Honduras - Professor Noam Chomsky PhD.

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By the way, it is a little known, but accurate, historical fact that aging Thomas Jefferson 👹 was KEY in helping Monroe craft that "doctrine".
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