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Grace,
I just cooked up this idea to get people on board with the big push for 100% Renewable energy. Do you think it might catch on? If it does, there are T-shirts, sweat shirts, bumper stickers, posters, etc. that people can make to convince people that this is the way forward.


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I don't like coffee and don't drink it.  On my budget I buy hardly anything.  I am very much NOT a salesperson--no talent whatsoever for sales.  I feel the mug looks about as good as plastic coffee mugs in general.   I wish some organization sort of like 350.org would -- instead of just soliciting donations for street theater -- sell in honor donation announcement cards with a choice of e-card or snail-mail post-card and choice of some coal as mineral rights or being guaranteed that the donation would go to donor's choice of two or more kinds of renewable energy.  Care2 has a large assortment of cute e-cards for various occasions, mostly free for members to send.  I like the idea of combining a donation towards something that would actually do some good like buying fossil fuel as mineral rights to hold it off the market or buying some sort of renewable energy equipment to generate renewable electric power to help the poor either here or in the third world with an e-card that both entertains and informs the recipient about the issues.  Maybe that is because I have been volunteering at a non-profit doing back office clerical work mostly for the person in charge of fundraising and they accept in honor and in memory donations and have a fairly nice looking copy of their logo with an appropriate greeting printed on the back of the letter informing the person honored that the donor has donated some money to the organization in their honor.

 

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Grace,
I hear you and applaud your volunteering. I don't plan to sell coffee mugs.  ;D I'm just trying to get some way of putting (AND KEEPING) the pressing need for a 100% Renewable Energy Transition in the public eye. Remember that the fossil fuelers will always throw criticism of ANY industrial society product like a coffee mug or sweatshirt or whatever at us. Of course any product that pushes 100% renewable energy must be 100% recycleable and not harm the biosphere; that goes without saying.

You see, I am keenly aware of the tremendous power of advertising. It was used to make people smoke cigarettes, consume gobs of fossil fuels and buy into to the throw away, consumerist, waste based society that big business and the fossil fuel industry wanted with their planned obsolescence "business (planet trashing) model". I have studied the late nineteenth and early 20th century. Most of the truth about what they did and how they did it is out there but is NOT taught in the grade and high school history books. That's part of the reason I have this forum.

Well, advertising is a tool that has been used to harm the biosphere and make a few conscience free predators very rich. Advertising WORKS! That doesn't make the tool itself evil. That same tool, through its great power of persuasion, can be used to get us OFF of fossil and nuclear poisons. We are herd animals. Those of us that want a viable biosphere just need to figure out how to get that herd moving in the right direction.

We can do this as an adjunct to the kind of very valuable work you and people like you do in volunteering. I am pushing 70 and have a dual chamber pace maker. I can't go out there and rock and roll to change the world. BUT, I can write and put the positive, beautiful future we can obtain through renewable energy in people's minds with posters and whatnot. Graphics are a very important part of internet communication. It's part of our tool chest to bring positive change.

As to getting people to donate, I agree it is a good thing to do. However, I want to get people to stop our government from stealing from us. Here we are, "donating" 24/7 through fossil fuel and nuclear power plant subsidies of all kinds for WHAT!!? By reminding people of this day in day out, people, (most of whom are living hand to mouth and just go on a guilt trip when you ask them to donate because they are having enough trouble feeding their families as it is in our fascist oligarchical corporate state) see immediate value in doing SOMETHING they can do right away to change the planet destroying paradigm we are in. They will then start giving more importance to environmental issues in elections and at the workplace instead of fighting about wedge issues deliberately put out there to confuse and divide the public.

There is storm going on. Advertising is one the ports in that storm. Donations are good, but that will not stop the oligarchs; only massive rejection of their profit over planet policies will.

Do you drink tea? A tea mug works too!  ;D
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Grace,
I forgot to mention that 350.org is doing some creative fundraising. They set up a Climate Victory (Creatve Action Network) section based on a WWII type motif and asked people to draw posters and submit them. I'm not and artist but I sent in two posters. They sell them for $26 each and promise to pay the "artist" about $8. I'm not trying to sell you one!  ;D You can print the smaller versions from the gallery here free if they suit your fancy. You can also upload anything you want to the gallery, by the way. 

If you want see the way posters are advertised by Climate Victory, just go here (these are links to my two posters).
http://thecreativeactionnetwork.com/10540
http://thecreativeactionnetwork.com/10532

There are many excellent posters (that put mine to shame  :-[) from real artists there pushing Climate Victory. They also have art  for fighting pollution and other important social subjects. Check them out if you haven't done so.
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Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life. Pr. 13:12

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An interesting and inspiring comment by one who signed the  petition to Demand Liberty From Fossil Fuels Through 100% Renewable Energy WWII Style Effort. Oh that many who call themselves Christians who don't believe in evolution were this Christian in their actual mindset and behavior!

This man may not believe in God but to me he is a man of God!

 


Mr. Ferdinand Puttinger, Austria

Jun 16, 18:29

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Please Let`s be AWARE: At present our AGE of exciting scientific discoveries is opening to us the unbelievable view on amazing interrelations between the complex appearances of whole evolution since big bang, from atomic properties to dimensions of boundless universe, but we HUMANS want to give preferences to commercial-driven short-dated and destructive influences, which will change eart`s face irreversible!

This is an enormous SELFISH and self-inflicted behavior, because comming generations will never more have the chance to see the unharmed diversity of nature`s uniqueness. If we still prefer to be focused mainly on ongoing excessive economic track, we will always AGAIN come to the same frustrating conclusion that we don`t really move forward to future`s urgently needed solutions!

AND It`s the most Appaling witness of Mankind`s incredible DULLNESS which appears as Paranoiac Schizophrenia Behavior of Everyone: We applaud loudly when sciences have found some indications of life in archaeological discoveries on other planets, but we Humans want to continue destroying stubbornly our wonderful multifarious & precious EARTH only for selfish whims of greedy & short dated economic interests.

Why is sophisticated Mankind not able to interrupt this strange behavior by aid of Politics & Politicians? Politicians should not only promise to strive for enduring environmental CHANGE at each election. They should finally indeed implement effectively Measures for promised CHANGE!

Comprehensive Technical Equipement for Global realisation of GREEN economics is already available at promising competitive Level. Therefore it`s time for CHANGE if Humans want to SURVIVE, because nature is reflecting already Human`s thoughtless behaviour in an unfavorable reaction to compensate our FATEFUL influence, what will limit the scope considerable for our greedy lifestyle and therefore also for economic`s generous revenues in near future!

AND WHY is mankind not able to accept that he is only part of Evolution and Not it`s RULER? Up to now science has revealed unimaginable interrelations for deeper Insights into viewable and invisible kinds of Existences in whole Universe. Not only to get amazing Knowledge about these existences, but also to widen our cognition for being able to Perceive our Marginal Role in this Universe.

We should learn to be DEVOTED into our marginal being in contrast to overwhelming and generous appearance of unique Universe. Being Thankful and Compassionate to all beings means to recognise our essential Relatedness to all forms of appearances in Universe, but specially to those of our precious Earth.

And practising Devotion to our marginal being could make us really Great and being generous to all Nature`s Creatures. This devotion could change us to a New Mental existence, feeling Spiritual Kinship to nature`s beings, what is finally everything what Universe has created since its Big Bang. To be Honestly Thankful for all being`s existence let us feel Pure relationship to all Universe`s appearances and creates desire for treating them Carefully. Awareness of Sentient beings evolved in Dialog with Universe`s appearances and relies for its education into individual being`s Consciousness furthermore on essential Stimulus of ambient outside world.

Therefore our relationship to all Universe`s appearances is evident. If we are tasting our being with all our precious Senses and being Thankful for this Great Gift, we really practise truthful Devotion and want no more longer ask ourselves how great is our role in the face of boundless Universe. This means being Aware of our Awareness and creates Loving Attitude. Such a mental attitude wants let also disappear borders of Religious Denominations. INDEED whole Humankind belongs to one and Universal Spirit of LOVE and COMPASSION, so Let us Be compassionate and give Love to all Nature`s Creatures.

Or in other Words & More Clearly: We should Not let RULE our EGO, because Ego based Behavior cannot be satisfied and wants finally destroy its environment only for short moments of feeling Saturated!

Thank you for your worthy Attention & Efforts. Kindest regards, AUSTRIA / Europe.

Thank you Mr. Puttinger, for making the world a better place!



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News from yours truly! I am now an "artist"! 

I can hardly wait ( LOL!) for all the "constructive criticism" cautioning me not to quit my day job...  ;)

  I'm retired so I can't get fired!    ;D

At any rate, it's nice to see one of my posters is on the "recommended list". 

 

And today I submitted my third "art work"  ;D in the service of Future Generations.

Drawing the faces of babies is HARD! I spent a full two weeks on those simple faces! The baby girl looks like she has gray hair because of the resolution but in the proper poster resolution (5400 by 3600 pixels) it looks blonde so don't claim I am drawing old ladies! The posters are meant to be bold and simple so I did not get into various facial details and multiple shading for effect. Hey, I'm trying to push Climate Victory through Renewable Energy, not paint the Sistene chapel roof, ya know! 

I'll get better. I promise! 

Who knows, I might even make a little money.

And if I do (I know, BIG IF!  :() Just remember you knew me when I was "undiscovered".  ;D


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HEBREW NEW TESTAMENT STUDIES   
 
'The camel and the eye of the needle', Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25

Just where is that gate in Jerusalem?   ??? "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)

For the last two centuries it has been common teaching in Sunday School that there is a gate in Jerusalem called the eye of the needle through which a camel could not pass unless it stooped and first had all its baggage first removed.

After dark, when the main gates were shut, travellers or merchants would have to use this smaller gate, through which the camel could only enter unencumbered and crawling on its knees! Great sermon material  ;D, with the parallels of coming to God on our knees without all our baggage. A lovely story and an excellent parable for preaching but unfortunately unfounded! From at least the 15th century, and possibly as early as the 9th but not earlier, this story has been put forth, however, there is no evidence for such a gate, nor record of reprimand of the architect who may have forgotten to make a gate big enough for the camel and rider to pass through unhindered.

Variations on this theme include that of ancient inns having small entrances to thwart thieves, or the story of an old mountain pass known as the "eye of the needle", so narrow that merchants would have to dismount from their camels and were thus easier prey for brigands lying in wait.

Mangled Greek maybe?

There are some differences in the transmitted Greek. The needle in Matthew and Mark is a rafic. In Luke it is a belone. But both are synonyms for needles used in sewing, but Luke's is more likely to be used by a surgeon than a seamstress.

Another possible solution comes from the possibility of a Greek misprint. The suggestion is that the Greek word kamilos ('camel') should really be kamêlos, meaning 'cable, rope', as some late New Testament manuscripts1 actually have here. Hence it is easier to thread a needle with a rope rather than a strand of cotton than for a rich man to enter the kingdom. A neat but unnecessary solution!

A variation on all of the above is that the needle was a 6 inch carpet needle and the rope was made of camel hair- but this is again clutching at straws or camel hair, and is an unnecessary emendation.

Makes sense in Aramaic

An alternative linguistic explanation is taken from George M Lamsa's Syriac-Aramaic Peshitta translation2 which has the word 'rope' in the main text but a footnote on Matthew 19:24 which states that the Aramaic word gamla means rope and camel, possibly because the ropes were made from camel hair. Evidence for this also comes from the 10th century Aramaic lexicographer Mar Bahlul who gives the meaning as a "a large rope used to bind ships". (cf. http://www.aramaicnt.org/HTML/LUKE/evidences/Camel.html)

Some have even suggested a pun in Aramaic between camel and gnat or louse from the Aramaic kalma 'vermin, louse'.

Just as the apocryphal Acts of Peter and Andrew3 refers the saying to a literal camel and needle, so we are not meant to reason away the apparent difficulty of getting a camel through a needle's eye. For the difficulty is not apparent it is real, and not be solved by textual trickery but by taking the ludicrous language at face value.


What we have instead then, I believe, is a beautiful Hebrew hyperbole, as in the tree sticking out of one's eye whilst one is removing a speck in another's eye!
Indeed, Jewish Talmudic literature uses a similar aphorism about an elephant passing through the eye of a needle as a figure of speech implying the unlikely or impossible:
"They do not show a man a palm tree of gold, nor an elephant going through the eye of a needle."4


This first instance concerned dreams and their interpretation and suggested that men only dream that which is natural or possible, not that which is unlikely ever to have occurred to them.
"… who can make an elephant pass through the eye of a needle."5
In this case, the illustration concerns a dispute between two rabbis, one of whom suggests that the other is speaking "things which are impossible".

The camel was the largest animal seen regularly in Israel, whereas in regions where the Babylonian Talmud was written, the elephant was the biggest animal. Thus the aphorism is culturally translated from a camel to an elephant in regions outside of Israel.

The aim is not, then, to explain away the paradox and make the needle a huge carpet needle for, elsewhere, the Jewish writings use the "eye of the needle" as a picture of a very small place, "A needle's eye is not too narrow for two friends, but the world is not wide enough for two enemies."6 . The ludicrous contrast between the small size of the needle's eye and the largest indigenous animal is to be preserved for its very improbability.

Jesus' hearers believed that wealth and prosperity were a sign of God's blessing (cf. Leviticus and Deuteronomy). So their incredulity is more along the lines that, "if the rich, who must be seen as righteous by God by dint of their evident blessing, can't be saved, who can be?". Later Christians have turned this around to portray wealth as a hindrance to salvation, which it can be – but no more so than many other things, when the message is that salvation is impossible for all men for it comes from God alone.

But beyond impossibility is possibility with God for, elsewhere, a Jewish midrash records:
"The Holy One said, open for me a door as big as a needle's eye and I will open for you a door through which may enter tents and [camels?]"7
In other words God only needs the sinner to open up just a crack for him and God will come pouring in and set up room for an oasis. God only needs a 'foot in the door', so to speak.


This is similar to the Talmudic use of two Hebrew letters, one which represents God holiness ('Q' Qoph, as in qadôsh 'holy') and another representing evil ('R' Resh, as in ra' 'evil'), in a story told for the purpose of teaching the Hebrew alphabet and Jewish morals. It is said that 'q' has a separated opening in order that should 'r' repent he may enter into God's holiness through the small opening.

A brief survey of sermons or search on the Internet reveals how many perpetuate the myth of the small gate in Jerusalem. Victorian travellers to the Holy Land even claim to have been shown it. The inaccuracy may appear harmless but it is neither good scholarship nor good exposition. The exaggerated and contrasted size is deliberate and is not an overt judgement on riches or poverty. Jesus reflects on how hard it often is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God. The riches are a distraction and hard to share if one is too attached to them. The disciples' incredulity is that if even the rich cannot be saved, who can? But the verdict is that even the poor, not only the rich, will find it impossible to save themselves – but with God all things are possible.  

Notes
Mainly 11th century or later, and in one 9th/10th century manuscript, however all early manuscripts and quotations in the church fathers from the 3rd through to the 8th centuries have 'camel' not 'rope'.
The New Testament according to the Eastern Text, George M Lamsa, 1940, p.xxiv and note on Matthew 19:24.
"13 There was a rich man named Onesiphorus who said: If I believe, shall I be able to do wonders? Andrew said: Yes, if you forsake your wife and all your possessions. He was angry and put his garment about Andrew's neck and began to beat him, saying: You are a wizard, why should I do so? 14 Peter saw it and told him to leave off. He said: I see you are wiser than he. What do you say? Peter said: I tell you this: it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Onesiphorus was yet more angry and took his garment off Andrew's neck and cast it on Peter's and haled him along, saying: You are worse than the other. If you show me this sign, I and the whole city will believe but if not you shall be punished. 15 Peter was troubled and stood and prayed: Lord, help us at this hour, for thou hast entrapped us by thy words. 16 The Saviour appeared in the form of a boy of twelve years, wearing a linen garment 'smooth within and without', and said; Fear not: let the needle and the camel be brought. There was a huckster in the town who had been converted by Philip; and he heard of it, and looked for a needle with a large eye, but Peter said: Nothing is impossible with God rather bring a needle with a small eye. 17 When it was brought, Peter saw a camel coming and stuck the needle in the ground and cried: In the name of Jesus Christ crucified under Pontius Pilate I command thee, camel, to go through the eye of the needle. The eye opened like a gate and the camel passed through; and yet again, at Peter's bidding. 18 Onesiphorus said: You are a great sorcerer: but I shall not believe unless I may send for a needle and a camel. And he said secretly to a servant: Bring a camel and a needle, and find a defiled woman and some swine's flesh and bring them too. And Peter heard it in the spirit and said: O slow to believe, bring your camel and woman and needle and flesh. 19 When they were brought Peter stuck the needle in the ground, with the flesh, the woman was on the camel. He commanded it as before, and the camel went through, and back again. 20 Onesiphorus cried out, convinced and said: Listen. I have lands and vineyards and 27 litrae of gold and 50 of silver, and many slaves: I will give my goods to the poor and free my slaves if I may do a wonders like you. Peter said: If you believe, you shall. 21 Yet he was afraid he might not be able, because he was not baptized, but a voice came: Let him do what he will. So Onesiphorus stood before the needle and camel and commanded it to go through and it went as far as the neck and stopped. And he asked why. 'Because you are not yet baptized.' He was content, and the apostles went to his house, and 1,000 souls were baptized that night." (Acts of Peter and Andrew vv.14-21, The Apocryphal New Testament, M R James, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1924, p459).
Babylonian Talmud, Berakoth, 55b
Babylonian Talmud, Baba Mezi'a, 38b
Source not traced but cf. Midrash Rabbah, Genesis 1.3
Midrash Rabbah, The Song of Songs, 5.3; cf. Pesiqta R., 15, ed. Friedmann, p.70a; Soncino Zohar, Vayikra 3, p95a

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It took a long time for human beings to accept that our little piece of meteoric rubble wasn't the exact and absolute center of the Universe. It does appear that way, doesn't it? It may not take so long for a spaceman to learn ...


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Near the end of his fifteenth orbit as Greenland slipped by noiselessly below, he made the routine measurements that tested the operation of his space capsule and checked the automatic instruments which would transmit their stored data to Earth on his next pass over Control. Everything normal; all mechanical devices were operating perfectly.

This information didn't surprise him, in fact, he really didn't even think about it. The previous orbits and the long simulated flights on Earth during training had made such checks routine and perfect results expected. The capsules were developed by exhaustive testing both on the ground and as empty satellites before entrusting them to carry animals and then the first human.

He returned to contemplation of the panorama passing below and above, although as he noted idly, above and below had lost some of their usual meaning. Since his capsule, like all heavenly bodies, was stable in position with respect to the entire universe and, thanks to Sir Isaac Newton and his laws, never changed, the Earth and the stars alternated over his head during each orbit. "Up" now meant whatever was in the direction of his head. He remembered that even during his initial orbit when the Earth first appeared overhead he accepted the fact as normal. He wondered if the other two had accepted it as easily.

For there had been two men hurled into orbit before he ventured into space. Two others who had also passed the rigorous three-year training period and were selected on the basis of over-all performance to precede him. He had known them both well and wondered again what had happened on their flights. Of course, they had both returned, depending upon what your definition of return was. The capsules in which they had ventured beyond Earth had returned them living. But this was to be expected, for even the considerable hazards of descent through the atmosphere and the terrible heating which occurred were successfully surmounted by the capsule.

Naturally, it had not been expected that the satellites would have to be brought down by command from the ground. But this, too, was part of the careful planning—radio control of the retro-rockets that move the satellite out of orbit by reducing its velocity. Of course, ground control was to be used only if the astronaut failed to ignite the retro-rockets himself. He remembered everyone's surprise and relief when the first capsule was recovered and its occupant found to be alive. They had assumed that in spite of all precautions he was dead because he had not fired the rockets on the fiftieth orbit and it was necessary to bring him down on the sixty-fifth.

Recovery alive only partially solved the mystery, for the rescuers and all others were met by a haughty, stony silence from the occupant. Batteries of tests confirmed an early diagnosis: complete and utter withdrawal; absolute refusal to communicate. Therapy was unsuccessful.


The second attempt was similar in most respects, except that command return was made on the thirty-first orbit after the astronaut's failure to de-orbit at the end of the thirtieth. His incoherent babble of moons, stars, and worlds was no more helpful than the first.

Test after test confirmed that no obvious organic damage had been incurred by exposure outside of the Earth's protective atmosphere. Biopsy of even selected brain tissues seemed to show that microscopic cellular changes due to prolonged weightlessness or primary cosmic-ray bombardment, which had been suggested by some authorities, were unimportant. Somewhat reluctantly, it was decided to repeat the experiment a third time.

The launching was uneventful. He was sent into space with the precision he expected. The experience was exhilarating and, although he had anticipated each event in advance, he could not possibly have foreseen the overpowering feeling that came over him. Weightlessness he had experienced for brief periods during training, but nothing could match the heady impression of continuous freedom from gravity.

Earth passing overhead was also to be expected from the simple laws of celestial mechanics but his feeling as he watched it now was inexpressible. It occurred to him that perhaps this was indeed why he was here, because he could appreciate such experiences best. He had been told the stars would be bright, unblinking, and an infinitude in extent, but could mere descriptions or photographs convey the true seeing?

On his twenty-first orbit he completed his overseeing the entire surface of the planet in daylight. He had seen more of Earth than anyone able to tell about it, but only he had the true feeling of it. The continents were clearly visible, as were the oceans and both polar ice caps. The shapes were familiar but in only a remote way. A vague indistinctness borne of distance served to modify the outlines and he alone was seeing and understanding. On the dark side of the planet large cities were marked by indistinct light areas which paled to insignificance compared to the stars and his sun.

He speculated about the others who had only briefly experienced these sights. Undoubtedly they weren't as capable of fully grasping or appreciating any of these things as he was. It was quite clear that no one else but he could encompass the towering feeling of power and importance generated by being alone in the Universe.

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Disagreements on the Doomstead Diner
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2015, 09:11:24 pm »
Ah!  I got on here with the Rogue Economist ID!  ;D

This is not a good time to go walkabout on the Diner AG.

Go check your messages there.

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Re: Disagreements on the Doomstead Diner
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2015, 12:22:37 am »
It's never a good time to walkabout. If I start detailing EXACTLY what I have observed at the DD for quite some time, I will be accused of being over sensitive and so on.

I'm FED UP with that! I'm FED UP with people insisting on keeping their heads shoved firmly up their descending colons.

I'm fed up with the incredibly high level of DUMB SH IT STUBBORNESS and GREED I see among too many diners.

There is NEVER an apology for the long **** list of gratuitous insults directed at me based, not on any silly demands for respect by me, but on the evidence I have provided PROVING several people WRONG, including you, about Carrying Capacity versus Caring Capacity.

CERTAIN PEOPLE ALWAYS get the kid gloves treatment. I have NEVER BEEN ONE OF THEM. IF I "CROSS THE LINE", an apology is DEMANDED OF ME or I am given some snarky moronic swipe by one of the ADMINS like EDDIE OR SURLY who think they are SO CUTE playing at clever SNIPING.

**** MONSTA! **** KARPATOCK! **** PALLOY! **** SNOWLEAPARD! **** EDDIE! **** GOLDEN OXEN and **** UB on his LIBERTARIAN HORSESHIT TOO!

I AM SICK OF THEIR NARROW MINDEDNESS, DUPLICITY AND STUPIDITY!

Everything is GOING SOUTH on this planet anyway so I guess they are just more WATER MOLECULES in the DESTRUCTIVE EVIL WAVE THEY ARE PART OF (that they fancy themselves apart from due to their feverish, wishful thinking, self glorifying imaginations and egocentric world view).

My health is starting to be affected by this. I DO NOT NEED the AGGRAVATION. Let em' USE SOMEBODY ELSE FOR A PUNCHING BAG!

And as I told Surly and JD, ALL my posts here are public property. If anybody wants my STUFF over there, they can get off their fat asses and copy it here and post it on my channel. I'm an old man. I'm a sick old man. I am TIRED of dealing with EMPATHY CHALLENGED HOMO SAPS. 

YOU want to live. Good for you. I DON'T. I'm just here to keep my wife clothed and fed. Going over to the DD to get my ass kicked WILL NOT extend my life. That may make MY DAY but it will SHAFT my wife. And even if you read everybody there the riot act (WHICH I KNOW WON'T DO) so they wouldn't mess with the salt water ****'s tender sensibilities, THAT wouldn't work for me either.

I expect people to READ what is written and BACK THE FORK OFF if I prove them wrong. If YOU have to be the referee to keep the insults and sniping off my back, THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO BE THERE. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE FACTS. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN QUESTIONING THEIR WORLD VIEW. LOCKING MY CHANNEL IS NOT THE SOLUTION.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AFFIRMATION OF THEIR EGOCENTRIC BALONEY AND GET HIGHLY DISTURBED WHEN SOMEONE CHALLENGES THEIR TENDER SENSIBILITIES AND REVEALS WHAT A BUNCH OF BRAIN DEAD NARCISSISTIC BIGOTS THEY ARE.

I am not popular with most diners, despite the view count (or MAYBE BECAUSE OF IT!) on my channel. That, I understand.

But senseless, repetitive arguments over the same tired egocentric plethora of allegedly "practical" (see apex predators 'R' us) solutions to daily living are a WASTE OF TIME, ESPECIALLY when the sniping and sarcastic potshots are born of empathy challenged worship of materialism.
 
So, I have to DO what I HAVE TO DO to survive in this HELL for as long as possible.

Go ahead, copy and post this post (without this sentence - they will play nice instead  ;)) on the DD so you can SEE how the DD CROWD OF SELF LOVING EGOMANIACS collectively proclaim "Good riddance to bad rubbish!" IN CODE. That CODE will be LIKE THIS: Gee, I just can't imagine what got into Agelbert... We have always been so respectful and gentlemanly in our dialog with him.  ;)  ;D
This will be followed by a veritable explosion of polite discourse between the miscreants to prove what "gentlemen" (and lady -Karpatok will, no doubt, join in) they are. 

They all are human and all have the option to be as stupid and egocentric as they wish. But I will no longer pretend that THEIR world view is not BASCIALLY EGOCENTRIC. RE, I have NEVER enjoyed the company of empathy challenged lovers of themselves. And I NEVER WILL.

May God have mercy on them and bring them to everlasting life. But I'm too tired, sick and beat to continue talking to egocentric walls.



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Re: Disagreements on the Doomstead Diner
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2015, 02:20:18 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: Please observe how many Doomstead Diners were raised. Good old Doctor Spock helped an entire country go NARCISSIST. The results are EVIDENT.  >:(


How Parents Turn Their Children Into Narcissists


Creating narcissists: the parental behaviour that convinces children they are better than other people.

Parents turn their children into little narcissists by overvaluing them, a new study finds.


It is better to concentrate on being emotionally warm towards children — this leads to higher self-esteem, not narcissism.

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Professor Brad Bushman, one of the study’s authors, said:
“Children believe it when their parents tell them that they are more special than others.

That may not be good for them or for society.”


The study is the first of its kind to follow children over time to examine how narcissists evolve.

The researchers followed 565 children in the Netherlands who were between 7 and 11 when the study started. This is the critical age when narcissists emerge.


The children were tested for typical personality traits of narcissists, like thinking you are better than other people. The children’s parents were also asked about their children. Professor Bushman explained that his research had changed his own parenting style:

“When I first started doing this research in the 1990s, I used to think my children should be treated like they were extra-special. I’m careful not to do that now. It is important to express warmth to your children because that may promote self-esteem, but overvaluing them may promote higher narcissism.”

Creating little narcissists

A previous study by the same researchers caught out parents who overvalued their children. They were asked if their children knew about “Queen Alberta” and “The Tale of Benson Bunny.” Although both were made up by the researchers, some parents claimed their children knew all about them.

Eddie Brummelman, who co-authored the study, said: “Overvaluing parents tended to claim that their child had knowledge of many different topics – even these nonexistent ones.”

Of course overvaluing children is not the only cause of narcissism, there are also genetic and other environmental factors. “Some children may be more likely than others to become narcissistic when their parents overvalue them.”

Mr Brummelman thinks the study suggests a practical way of helping parents:
“Parent training interventions can, for example, teach parents to express affection and appreciation toward children without telling children that they are superior to others or entitled to privileges.”

The study was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (Brummelman et al., 2015).
http://www.spring.org.uk/2015/03/how-parents-turn-their-children-into-narcissists.php
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AG, for some reason the RSS Feed from Renewable Revolution isn't working in the Widget on the Diner.

You might want to look into it.

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AG, for some reason the RSS Feed from Renewable Revolution isn't working in the Widget on the Diner.

You might want to look into it.

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