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Author Topic: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable  (Read 6421 times)

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Re: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable
« Reply #165 on: January 25, 2019, 09:39:54 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: These social scientists have empirically discovered what Paul, the Apostle of Jesus Christ, made clear over two thousand years ago about the importance of equality in human society. ✨

Now therefore perform the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to will, so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have. For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.

For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:

As it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack. -- 2 Corinthians 8:11-15 King James Version (KJV)
Imprint: Allen Lane
Published: 07/06/2018
ISBN: 9781846147418
Length: 352  Pages
Dimensions: 222mm x 33mm x 144mm
Weight: 468g
RRP: £20.00

Why is the incidence of mental illness in the UK twice that in Germany? Why are Americans three times more likely than the Dutch to develop gambling problems? Why is child well-being so much worse in New Zealand than Japan? As this groundbreaking study demonstrates, the answer to all these hinges on inequality.

InThe Spirit Level Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett put inequality at the centre of public debate by showing conclusively that less-equal societies fare worse than more equal ones across everything from education to life expectancy. The Inner Level now explains how inequality affects us individually, how it alters how we think, feel and behave. It sets out the overwhelming evidence that material inequalities have powerful psychological effects: when the gap between rich and poor increases, so does the tendency to defi ne and value ourselves and others in terms of superiority and inferiority. A deep well of data and analysis is drawn upon to empirically show, for example, that low social status is associated with elevated levels of stress, and how rates of anxiety and depression are intimately related to the inequality which makes that status paramount.

Wilkinson and Pickett describe how these responses to hierarchies evolved, and why the impacts of inequality on us are so severe. In doing so, they challenge the conception that humans are innately competitive and self-interested. They undermine, too, the idea that inequality is the product of 'natural' differences in individual ability.  

This book sheds new light on many of the most urgent problems facing societies today, but it is not just an index of our ills. It demonstrates that societies based on fundamental equalities, sharing and reciprocity generate much higher levels of well-being, and lays out the path towards them.

Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life. Pr. 13:12


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There's a really nice drone medical supply delivery system in Rwanda, using fixed wing drones for their much higher speed. It's been running for a couple of years with great results. Real Engineering has a really nice review of the design considerations, technology, and economics:

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Agelbert NOTE: As usual when when the welfare of people in Africa is defended, an alleged defender of the biosphere rants about overpopulation there killing off the fauna and flora. As usual when I spot these biosphere math challenged cretins, I weigh in with some facts:

Ok I think we got humans covered, over 9 billion of them left should be enough,., but what about all the species going extinct with no habitat and no water? To they not deserve to live? Why do we attach more value to human life? Surely this planet belongs to animals just as much as humans...

Lorenz HansenDamien
Every species cares mostly about their own, a lot just about them self. Same with most humans. Otherwise we would never eat meat, have pets or milk slaves. Caring about humans isn't wrong. Saving everybody born is the best way we know to reduce birth rates, and with it population. Developed countries have a unsustainable birthrate (below 2 kids per woman). Have a look at japan. Population is already decreasing. Same will happen all over the western world. Just Asia and Africa are still growing.

Damien > Lorenz Hansen
That’s such an uneducated view, clearly you don’t understand eco systems and linkages. with that logic let’s just wipe the whole planet of all non-human species? Population is out of control, we’ve taken other species habitat, everything has consequences and it’s already hitting humans hard. No one talks about those communities’ horrible habit of having 15 kids instead of 2. Everything is connected, we destroy the eco system or kill one species it’ll destabilize everything and affect us as well.

Plus you’re talking about countries that are not the issue here. Undeveloped countries are the problem with uncontrolled populations and no jobs to give them.

agelbert > Damien

What you are ERRONEOUSLY doing is ASSUMING the SAME AGENCY (i.e. biosphere damaging ability) to each and every human that is alive. That is TYPICAL broad brush fragmentation of agency (i.e. share of responsibility for the damage) that absolves the major polluters of the massive pollution they are responsible for.   

The biosphere math facts clearly state that less than 17% of the human population, MOSTLY concentrated in wealthy countries, is DOING over 80% of the damage by consuming over 80% of the resources. Only about half (or less) of the MILITARY budgets alone of the wealthy countries could pay for bio-remediating the most impacted areas, stop the exploitation and care for and educate the high population growth poor there so they become good stewards instead of biosphere destroyers.

Since, according to the U.N., the richest 20% of the world's population uses 80% of the resources, the 'Fragmentation of Agency' pie chart for the damage done to the biosphere should look like this:

The fossil fuel industry, and almost half of the world’s 100 largest companies, want that 'Fragmentation of Agency' pie chart to look like this:

The REAL bottom line is that less than 17% of the human population is an existential threat to the ALL of the human population AND a large part of macroscopic species in the biosphere.

"Capitalist ideology claims that the world is perfectly ordered and everybody is in their place (i..e. everybody gets what they deserve). This self legitmating aspect of Capitalism is Socially Catastrophic. This is the Victorian view of the world." Rob Urie - Author " Zen Economics"

Damien > agelbert
What does your theory that rests on shaky grounds (assumes people in developing countries don’t have TVs, fridges, bikes, phones etc.) help resolve? So every should pollute as much as the 1%? Let’s have +15 degrees temperature increase and see what happens... how stupid and short sighted.
agelbert > Damien
It's not a theory. For a fellow who is quite ready to scold polite educated people like Lorenz Hansen for their "uneducated" view of pollution cause and effect, you appear amazingly uninformed.

Here is the key senence in what I wrote. Please ponder it.

Only about half (or less) of the MILITARY budgets alone of the wealthy countries could pay for bio-remediating the most impacted areas, stop the exploitation and care for and educate the high population growth poor there so they become good stewards instead of biosphere destroyers.

Damien, I agree with you that the biosphere is being destroyed by the stupidity and greed of the human species.

However, your purported solution will not work. WHY IS THAT? Well, if every high population growth country's population all disappeared within a decade from a plague (or something similar, whether accidental or intentioned), that 17% of we PLANETARY PARASITES would still be there doing 80% of the BIOSPHERE DESTRUCTION.

To believe otherwise is wishful thinking. We need to get our house in order and get OFF of hydrocarbons, stop polluting mining, energy, manufacturing, wars, pesticide use, etc. and start a massive emergency campaign to get back to 350 PPM of CO2.

If we don't, we only have "DEVELOPED" countries to blame, NOT the "underdeveloped" countries.

« Last Edit: June 25, 2019, 03:02:22 pm by AGelbert »
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Did military people think it was funny or clever when Trump 🦀 said he prefers people who don’t get captured when asked about Senator John McCain?

Ron Wagner, Former USAF pilot in the Presidential Wing at Andrews AFB. Former airline pilot.
Updated Jan 6 · Upvoted by Steve Traugott, Former Staff Sergeant, Crew Chief, USAF and Don Harper, former US Military Combat Veteran-5 Tour at The United States of America (1978-2005)

Here is my “two cents worth,” although my personal stories about John McCain and other POWs might be worth a nickel or a dime.


When the Vietnam POWs were released they were given huge priority in selecting their next assignments. That was a superb idea considering that their previous military duties over the past six to eight years had been as bad as it gets.

Many of them chose to fly in the Presidential Wing at Andrews AFB, so I got to train and fly with a lot of them. They survived inhumane, unbelievable torture. Not one of them was, nor will they ever be, perfectly all right.

And yet, I don’t know much about what they experienced because they rarely talked about it. I mostly picked up on symptoms. Let me give two examples.


One POW pilot in my squadron was a Major who had his uniforms tailor made and kept them crisp and perfect. You might think a tailor-made USAF uniform wouldn’t look different, but he was one sharp-dressed man. He looked perfect all the time because he would never again wear sloppy, ill-fitting clothing.

And when it came time to find a restaurant when we were out on an overnight mission, he had only one criterion for choosing one: it had to have carpeting. It was a little quirk of his that he had experienced enough meals on concrete floors that he wanted to dine on carpeting for the rest of his life.


And then there’s the Captain, whom I think about most times that I turn on the shower water to let it warm up. It’s pretty strange, but it’s the truth: in 40 years, I have taken few showers without thinking about the story I’m going to relate.

The Captain told me showers were mandatory every couple of days—under pain of torture if they refused—until the temperature got down to 5 degrees C, which is 41 degrees F. Next time you take a shower, turn on the “cold” water and let it run for two minutes so that the warm 72-degree water in your pipes is gone and you get the 56-degree cold water that comes into your home. Now step under it and see how long you last. Your bathroom is 72 degrees and the “cold” water is around 56 degrees. Trust me, you will think it hurts. Try to imagine being outdoors at 42 degrees, with 42 degree water, and possibly some wind blowing.

Now choose: take that shower, or take a severe beating—whichever one you prefer.

When the POWs landed in Hawaii on their way back, they all took long hot showers, some stood in the shower for up to two hours. Think about that.


I hope this next thing comes across as the profound compliment I intend it to be.

At the end of my USAF pilot training, we went through two weeks of ground survival training. Three days of it was being locked up in a mock POW camp. And when I say “mock” you cannot imagine how mock it was. It was on an active USAF base, so we were safe. The “guards” were active duty enlisted airmen who were in no way going to truly harm an officer. They were given permission to make us hurt, but they had special techniques that did no harm. In other words, suffering was not even a remote possibility for us.

And the really big deal about it was that it lasted just three days, then they’d open the gates and we’d go for a big, hot meal. Then back to our rooms for hot showers and fresh clothes.

And yet, I will tell you I was terrified. It was horrible. It was demeaning.

And we never had to take a shower outdoors on a cold day with cold water.

My conclusion from that experience is that I truly cannot imagine enduring a real POW camp for a totally unknown length of time—never knowing when you would get out—and having real guards, and enduring torture that would leave you scarred for life. My little taste of it gave me enormous respect for the men who I would soon be training and flying with at Andrews.


McCain returned to take command of a Naval flight training squadron, so as a USAF pilot I would normally have never flown with him. But within about two years he became the Navy’s liaison to the US Senate. He worked directly with Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. In about 1977–78 I flew out to Phoenix to pick up Goldwater and bring him home to Andrews. McCain was at his side.

About halfway across the country, I sent my copilot back to the passenger seats and put McCain in the right seat and let him fly, including a night landing at Andrews. He did great and Goldwater gave him a “thumbs up.”

McCain had been famous as a POW, for reasons made clear in many other answers here, so I knew about him. He suffered more than most of them due to his father being an Admiral in the Navy. We never discussed it.


And Donald Pu**y-Grabbing Trump had the classless gall to say McCain wasn't a hero. I’d love to make Trump choose between taking a shower outdoors on a windy, 42-degree day, with 42-degree water, and a severe beating. Can I get a volunteer in case he refused to take the shower?!?! 👍👍👍

I can’t believe you even wrote “funny or clever” in your question.

Trump has no clue at all what it’s like to serve one’s country. McCain has served far, far more than almost anyone who hasn’t died in the line of service.

And we know how Trump treats the Gold Star families. Amazingly, more than 80% of Republicans approve of the job Trump is doing. What would it take for them to disapprove?

There is nothing “funny or clever” about Trump, and his moronic comments about John McCain are just one small example.

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Chris Skuller
Oct 30, 2017 · 1,543 upvotes including Ron Wagner
Yeah. Although I can create a list 10 pages long condemning the current Republican party, it’s their approval of Trump despite his disrespect of McCain and Gold Star Families that really shows their true colors. I find it especially telling when they about NFL players kneeling during the Anthem being (somehow) disrespectful to the flag and enlisted soldiers, all the while approving of a President (currently 80% approval rating from Republicans) who has said such awful things. It disgusts me.

Edit: Since I wrote this back in October of 2017, I have seen a bunch more “true colors” moments from the current administration.


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