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You can have everything in the universe. You can have it now. It is yours for free, and it is unconditional. This is God's covenant with every living thing that was ever born.

A seed of a giant redwood falls on the forest floor. It sticks a root into the ground and begins to consume. How much does it consume? As much as it wants! There are birds flying past my window right now going leaf to leaf, branch to branch, eating the seeds, berries, insects, whatever they want. How much are they taking? As much as they want!



You know, this subject is very interesting to me.

First off, any backsliding Christian from East Texas can tell you that this is straight from the Sermon on the Mount. Matthew 6:25-34.



(I still like the King James. It's what I cut my teeth on.)



25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.



So....that's Jesus's take on it. He said that.....right after the part where he said you can't serve both God  and money. If you believe the New Testament is an accurate account.

And far be it from me to argue with Jesus. It's only some of Jesus's rabid fans whom I take issue with.

However, it seems to me that although man is not fundamentally different from the other animals, he does have one characteristic that influences his behavior that other animals don't. He has the brain power and the moral judgment to make decisions about what he should or shouldn't do.

Like...recently I was out on the stead with my dogs. They hemmed up another raccoon. The heeler had him treed at the base of a cottonwood tree that had collapsed into the creek, and he was barking to beat the band.

The fox terrier closed in for the kill from the water side. She was just about to take the first bite out of the coon's ass when I showed up, and she had her gorge up and no amount of hollering got through to her. I had to pick up a rock and bounce it off her flank to get her attention.

It's just their nature. They're bred to hunt. She didn't need to eat that coon to keep from starving. She wasn't even hungry. I could have let them kill it, but there was no reason to allow that. If I'd needed the meat, it would have been different. The coons have gotten thicker on the ground because of the deer corn I put out. So it was more or less my fault the coon was there in the first place.

Maybe not the best example, but what it amounts to is that plants and animals....every species but man (as far I know) has absolutely no conscience regarding killing, or whether to eat all or just some of whatever food is there. They just follow their natural instincts.

Maybe that's what's meant by the myth of the Fall from Grace, getting thrown out of the garden. We do have the knowledge of Good and Evil.

So...it seems to me that while it is okay to take what I need from the earth, that it's just plain wrong to take anything and everything I might want. That's what's gotten us into all this trouble. Too many people taking, and taking , and taking.

When our hunter-gatherer ancestors roamed the world, they could take what they wanted...and the environment and the other species recovered immediately. Now that isn't the case. We do take what we want, most of the time, and there just isn't enough left to go around anymore. I wonder what Jesus would have to say about that.


Eddie,
That's interesting about your dogs and the raccoons. I observed the same behavior as a kid with a snapping turtle and several frogs in a wash bucket. It killed them all even though it was not hungry. And it was my fault because I put that snapper in that wash bucket with all the frogs that could not escape.

We are the caretakers of this planet because we are the only self aware species. That's called Stewardship in the Bible and I agree with it. There is good stewardship and there is bad stewardship. Those are moral choices. As to the alleged "subjectivity" of morality that knarf claims, I resolved that issue long ago.

The Native Americans had the seven generation impact of whatever they did as the litmus test of morality (i.e. good stewardship). Translated to science speak, a decision by a self aware being that will result in the reduced viability of the biosphere for about 300 years is an immoral decision.

Hence morality involves each and every choice we make that impacts other Homo SAPS and ALL other life forms in the web of life called the biosphere. That is NOT a subjective issue.

Immoral behavior degrades the biosphere; moral behavior enhances it. Yes, that means that, in certain cases, what is immoral for civilized folks and several religions (including Christianity) is probably not really immoral when all is said and done.

Of course that can set up a slippery slope where genocide can be "justified" because a tribe was killing off the butterflies or some such ridiculous pretzel logic.

But aside from legalese jargon and fast and loose use of language to justify conscience free predation, it's pretty obvious what not the morality of doing anything that craps the biosphere for 300 years while we live means.
Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate:
For the Lord will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them. Pr. 22:22-23

 

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