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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2013, 01:50:49 am »
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it too was complete with people arguing against, saying that dressed right angles were natural formations, etc.

Yep, they are always arguing about what natural or not. There's a lot of rock formation that looks like it came out of a hexagon mold factory in Ireland (giant's causway). It was some kind geologic
process when the rock cools that caused that.



But Yonaguni looks a lot like that palace King Ravana built on a stone promontory. It looks like the real deal to me. It was above water at one time and I see no way that such asymmetrical shape can come  about on ALL FOUR SIDES by nature. If it was like a scalloped wall on the grand canyon or something like that  with no other sides, I would say it was natural. Maybe someday we will know.
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The above computer animation of a pole shift causing catastrophic rapid crustal movement could easily explain why the frozen wooly mammoths in Siberia were found with flowers and plants in their stomachs that simply do not grow in a cold climate. The flash frozen bodies effect would certainly take place if Siberia moved a thousand miles or more towards the north pole in a few hours. 

Something like the above, even if it was a more gentle shift of, say a thousand miles or so, would be enough to cause massive tidal waves and the destruction of most land based, ancient civilizations.

The few survivors that happened to be far from populated areas very high in some mountains, without education or knowledge of the past, would not, as occurred when the Spaniards asked the Incas about the ruins at Lake Titicaca, know who built them or how to duplicate the precision in stonework and joining.  8)

And all that was centuries before more pre-Inca ruins were discovered.

Aug 23, 2000 - The ruins of a pre-Incans ancient temple have been found under Lake ... of the lake, sited in the Andes mountains between Bolivia and Peru.  :o

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The Miracle Of Terra Preta 


 A large pre-historic civilization is found in the central Amazon. Archeologists and scientists are shocked. The soil there is thought to be impossible to grow sufficient produce in. How could upward of a million people survive here, over a thousand years ago?

 Could this be the elusive El Dorado, the city of gold?

 Because there is a kind of gold here, in great abundance: bio char, or black gold. The most fertile soil on earth. It's no accident. Bio char is not naturally occurring in nature, it must be cultivated by man.

 Bio Char is an ancient method of enhancing soil fertility and carbon sequestration with charcoal and organic matter. It helps the soil retain water and increase crop yields. It enhances microbiological activity. It retains nutrients for plants that would otherwise be lost to the atmosphere, or washed away by rains.

 This could represent a key strategy in breaking the cycle of slash and burn farming, and restore our soil.

 Now we know how this civilization thrived. At 30 minutes into this presentation, the miracle of Bio Char is explained. There is an 880% increase in crop yields when bio char is used!

 And here is something we didn't know: The great civilization in the Amazon left a precious legacy. In the last 10 minutes of this documentary we learn that the stuff actually renews itself!

 If we can unlock the secret to reproducing this black gold, we can save the planet!

 --Bibi Farber

 This video was produced by the BBC
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HOW did the Mayans know 1000 years in advance that we would be visited by the "The brothers from the Stars" on the day of a solar eclipse?  :o ???
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2014, 10:00:41 pm »
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The Indus Valley Civilization had Renewable Energy Infrastructure.  ;D
And, they were peaceful. Perhaps there is a connection... 8)
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Arctic Expansion
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2014, 11:05:24 pm »
Arctic Expansion

Genetic analysis reveals the history of the earliest human migrations in the region.

By Jyoti Madhusoodanan | September 2, 2014

The Arctic’s earliest human inhabitants migrated into the region from Siberia approximately 6,000 years ago.
These so called Paleo-Eskimo peoples lived in isolation—despite periodic migrations of other populations—before suddenly vanishing 700 years ago, according to a study published last week (August 29) in Science.

This genetic analysis of 169 ancient and present-day humans used museum specimens of bones, teeth, and hair from Alaska, Canada, and Greenland; the researchers, led by Maanasa Raghavan and Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark, also sequenced the genomes of modern-day Native American, Inuit, and Aleutian Islander families to enable comparative analyses.

Their results showed that Paleo-Eskimos spread into the Arctic independent of Native American and Inuit migrations. Although it periodically abandoned the area, this Paleo-Eskimo population lived there in near-isolation for almost 4,000 years before disappearing. The team’s analyses also showed that modern-day Inuits are not directly related to these earliest settlers, suggesting that the ancient Paleo-Eskimo lineage did not vanish simply due to interbreeding.

“Elsewhere, as soon as people meet each other, they have sex,” Willerslev told National Geographic. “Even potentially different species like Neanderthals [and modern humans] had sex, so this finding is extremely surprising.”

Instead, this population may have developed medical problems as a result of continuous inbreeding, which may have contributed to their eventual extinction, Willerslev told The New York Times. Another potential factor may have been climate change, as periodic fluctuations of even a few degrees could cause a loss of marine food resources.

“By using genetics and genomics, they were able to answer questions that archaeologists have been trying to solve for decades,” anthropologist Todd Disotell of New York University who was not involved in the research told the New York Times. “With genetics, you’re looking at the ancient people themselves, not their refuse, so to speak.”

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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 05:00:32 pm »
LONG article. Recommended ONLY for those who are genuinely interested in this subject matter  ;D ----> 

Egyptian chronology and the Bible—framing the issues

Do the dates ascribed to the Egyptian dynasties falsify the date of biblical creation?

SNIPPET 1:
Egyptian chronology can be a challenging subject for biblical creationists. That’s because the secular, majority view about these chronologies extends further back than an objective reading of the biblical chronogenealogies allows for creation: a little over 6,000 years ago. These chronologies are hotly debated among Christians and secularists alike, with the consensus being increasingly challenged.

Moreover, some of the incredible Egyptian monuments like the great pyramids on the Giza Plateau have dates ascribed to them that would have them being built before the earth-reshaping Flood of Noah’s time around 4,500 years ago. Following a strict biblical chronology, Egyptian civilization cannot predate creation, nor can the pyramids be pre-Flood constructions.

This article (although lengthy) does not attempt to solve any of the seeming problems in aligning Egyptian chronologies with the biblical text with any great detail. But for the average layperson trying to understand Egyptian history, it is often a case of ‘Where do I start?’ ‘How do we align such things?’ There are so many names, dynasties and dates bandied around with seeming authority that it is a confusing topic to investigate.

Also, without some background or a framework to help the Christian gain some perspective on the issues, it is difficult to be discerning about any information that claims to solve the many mysteries that Egypt presents—and there are dozens of those from Christian researchers alone! Hopefully this article will help us realize that the issue is not as cut and dried as the secular community sometimes presents it. Nor does Egyptian civilization falsify biblical history as the skeptics would like us to think.


SNIPPET 2:

Egypt’s culture was preoccupied with death and the afterlife, which motivated them to produce many artifacts, many of which were subsequently preserved due to the coincidence of an extraordinarily hot and dry climate. As part of this obsession, they worshipped multiple false deities who they believed could interact and intervene in miraculous ways in the physical realm (in the nature of magic arts), and who could also enable a person’s transition to heaven.

Ancient Egyptians believed that one’s body, image, and name needed to be preserved in this world after death in order for them to enter and exist in the eternal realm. As such, Egypt developed a massive industry on dealing with death, and it became the pivotal part of their culture.

Most would be familiar with iconic famous sites like the Great Pyramids of Khufu, Khafre, and Menkaure on the Giza Plateau near Cairo and the Valley of the Kings near Luxor. These were, in reality, just magnificent tombs forming part of a massive necropolis complex. Pharaohs encouraged the idea that they were living incarnations of, or even born of, the deities that were worshipped in those days.

However, preservation of the dead body was not only important for royalty; ordinary people had to be preserved after death also and were often buried in simpler ways. It’s just that royalty and those who held high positions (overseers and nobles) possessed greater wealth that enabled them to construct more elaborate and grandiose places of burial befitting their ‘god-like’ status.

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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2014, 03:05:28 pm »
Scans reveal new monuments at Stonehenge

A vast complex of monuments surrounding Britain's prehistoric Stonehenge site has been revealed using hi-tech underground scanning, archaeologists said on Wednesday (Sep 10).

LONDON: A vast complex of monuments surrounding Britain's prehistoric Stonehenge site has been revealed using hi-tech underground scanning, archaeologists said Wednesday. The mysterious circle of standing stones, on Salisbury Plain in southwest England, is one of the most iconic ancient sites in Europe and was long thought to stand alone.

But high-resolution scanning of the 12 square kilometres around it, penetrating three metres below the ground, has found it was surrounded by 17 neighbouring shrines. "Stonehenge is the most iconic archaeological monument, possibly along with the pyramids, on the planet," project leader Professor Vincent Gaffney told the British Science Festival in Birmingham, central England.

"Most of the area around Stonehenge is terra incognita. It has never been explored and everything we think about Stonehenge is on the basis of what we don't know about it. "This is going to change how we view Stonehenge. It is not yet another find from Stonehenge, it's a fundamental step forward in the way we understand it."

The four-year study used magnetometers - advanced metal detectors - ground-penetrating radar, electromagnetic sensors and three-dimensional laser scanners. It uncovered finds dating back 6,000 years, including evidence of 17 previously unknown wooden or stone structures as well as dozens of burial mounds.

They include giant pits, some of which appear to form astronomical alignments. The nearby Durrington Walls "super-henge", which has a circumference of nearly a mile (1.5 kilometres), was once flanked by up to 60 posts or stones up to three metres high, the scans showed.
Many burial mounds were found, including one barrow 33 metres long, within which signs of a giant timber building were found. It is suggested this was the site of complex rituals involving the dead, including the removal of flesh and limbs.

"This project has revealed that the area around Stonehenge is teeming with previously unseen archaeology and that the application of new technology can transform how archaeologists and the wider public understand one of the best-studied landscapes on Earth," said Gaffney. "New monuments have been revealed, as well as new types of monument that have previously never been seen by archaeologists."

A UNESCO world heritage site, Stonehenge is one of the most impressive prehistoric megalithic monuments anywhere due to its size, sophisticated concentric plan and architectural precision. It is suggested that the layout formed a theatrical arrangement, with Stonehenge gradually emerging from the landscape as visitors walked towards it on an ancient processional route.
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2014, 09:21:35 pm »
The Last EXTINCTION: 4 sequential Nova videos on what happened around 12,900 years ago in a possible Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization.  

Nice graphics! 


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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2014, 10:33:54 pm »
When fire really was renewable energy   
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Home Life in Colonial Days

Alice Morse EARLE (1851 - 1911)

CHAPTER III[52]
 THE KITCHEN FIRESIDE

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Many of our New England poets have given us glimpses in rhyme of the old-time kitchen. Lowell's well-known lines are vivid enough to bear never-dying quotation:—[73]


"A fireplace filled the rooms one side
With half a cord of wood in—

There warn't no stoves (tell comfort died)
To bake ye to a puddin'.

"The wa'nut log shot sparkles out
Towards the pootiest—bless her!

An' little flames danced all about
The chiny on the dresser.

"Agin the crumbly crooknecks hung,
An' in amongst 'em rusted

The old queen's-arm that granther Young
Fetched back from Concord busted."

To me the true essence of the old-time fireside is found in Whittier's Snow-Bound. The very chimney, fireplace, and hearthstone of which his beautiful lines were written, the kitchen of Whittier's boyhood's home, at East Haverhill, Massachusetts, is shown in the accompanying illustration. It shows a swinging crane. His description of the "laying the fire" can never be equalled by any prose:—

"We piled with care our nightly stack
Of wood against the chimney back—

The oaken log, green, huge, and thick,
And on its top the stout back-stick;

The knotty fore-stick laid apart,
And filled between with curious art[74]

The ragged brush; then hovering near,
We watched the first red blaze appear,

Heard the sharp crackle, caught the gleam
On whitewashed wall and sagging beam,

Until the old, rude-furnished room
Burst, flower-like, into rosy bloom."

No greater picture of homely contentment  :emthup:could be shown than the following lines:—

"Shut in from all the world without,
We sat the clean-winged hearth about,[75]

Content to let the north wind roar
In baffled rage at pane and door,

While the red logs before us beat
The frost-line back with tropic heat;

And ever, when a louder blast
Shook beam and rafter as it passed,

The merrier up its roaring draught
The great throat of the chimney laughed.

The house dog on his paws outspread
Laid to the fire his drowsy head,

The cat's dark silhouette on the wall
A couchant tiger's seemed to fall;

And, for the winter fireside meet,
Between the andirons' straddling feet

The mug of cider simmered slow,
And apples sputtered in a row.

And, close at hand, the basket stood
With nuts from brown October's woods.

What matter how the night behaved!
What matter how the north wind raved!

Blow high, blow low, not all its snow
Could quench our hearth-fire's ruddy glow."

Nor can the passing of years dim the ruddy glow of that hearth-fire, nor the charm of the poem. The simplicity of metre, the purity of wording, the gentle sadness of some of its expressions, make us read between the lines the deep and affectionate reminiscence with which it was written.   


Agelbert NOTE: Did you know many of the early New England Colonists lived in CAVES!!?  :P Ya didn't? Why not? Oh, you must have taken the American History that left that part out.  ;D And you thought cave people were just from the stone age, didn't ya? 

How about the fact that the Franklin Stove was an idea that Ben got from the Germans who knew how to keep ALL the house warm instead of just the kitchen? In Dutch and English homes, prior to the use of a stove for heating and cooking, standing water would freeze in the bedrooms during the harsher parts of the winter.  :o  Yep. The Dutch and the English, after they moved out of the caves  ;D (they should have picked up on how efficient passive geothermal heat is but they missed that...),  were freezing their arses off in winter for nearly a century until the Germans brought their "new fangled" stove/heating device to the colonies.

Until then, everybody just cooked IN (not ON) the hearth. Forget all those pretty pictures of tidy, bricked fireplaces framed with a nice mantelpiece. ALL that came later.

The fireplace tongs and such were VERY long to keep the cook from getting roasted while she positioned the food here and there. And most, and often ALL, of the pots, pans and "Dutch ovens" had legs!

And get this! The town councils had to offer home owners to replace ALL THE NAILS in the houses when a person moved in order to keep people from burning down their homes in order to "harvest" the nails for use on the next house! Nails were rather expensive, you see. England was NOT fond of colonies being able to make their own "high tech" stuff.   

Do you want to know more? You can listen or read this book free and learn how it was REALLY done way back when. For those who think there is a future of going back to nature of the "collapse", this is a valuable education in the nuts and bolts of basic, low tech, but still civilized, living. ENJOY!

Audiobook here:
https://librivox.org/home-life-in-colonial-days-by-alice-morse-earle/

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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2014, 08:53:05 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/w...p;feature=player_embedded

The Miracle Of Terra Preta 

 A large pre-historic civilization is found in the central Amazon. Archeologists and scientists are shocked. The soil there is thought to be impossible to grow sufficient produce in. How could upward of a million people survive here, over a thousand years ago?

Could this be the elusive El Dorado, the city of gold?

 Because there is a kind of gold here, in great abundance: bio char, or black gold. The most fertile soil on earth. It's no accident. Bio char is not naturally occurring in nature, it must be cultivated by man.

Bio Char is an ancient method of enhancing soil fertility and carbon sequestration with charcoal and organic matter. It helps the soil retain water and increase crop yields. It enhances microbiological activity. It retains nutrients for plants that would otherwise be lost to the atmosphere, or washed away by rains.

 This could represent a key strategy in breaking the cycle of slash and burn farming, and restore our soil.

 Now we know how this civilization thrived. At 30 minutes into this presentation, the miracle of Bio Char is explained. There is an 880% increase in crop yields when bio char is used!

 And here is something we didn't know: The great civilization in the Amazon left a precious legacy. In the last 10 minutes of this documentary we learn that the stuff actually renews itself!

 If we can unlock the secret to reproducing this black gold, we can save the planet!

 --Bibi Farber

 This video was produced by the BBC
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Re: Lost Cities and Civilizations
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2015, 01:53:36 am »
https://www.youtube.com/w...p;feature=player_embedded
Published on Dec 2, 2012

This video claims proof that aliens had built a full civilized city on Earth before humans, and that Krishna was also an alien...   

What impresses me about the video is the fact that the underwater ruins of a large city off the coast of India appear to be about 32,000 years old!  :o
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