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But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou
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But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou
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But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou
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Re: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 05:00:26 am »
Great thread, AG. But emotionally exhausting!

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Re: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 07:05:43 pm »
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Great thread, AG. But emotionally exhausting!

Agreed. My goal with this thread is to provide perspective that, painful as it is, we must never lose sight of what goes on out there day in and day out that is gut wrenching, tragic and downright frightening in it's level of chaos and the apparent mindless anarchy of the human condition.

Throughout all this apparent godless clusterfuck, I see God acting through the biosphere in general and brave people that struggle in the face of adversity in particular. This is inspiring to me. I frankly don't know how they do it because I don't know how I would have the strength to carry on in their shoes.

But somehow, even though tragic failures abound, those victories are real and I see God working in them to show us He cares. And that gives me hope and strengthens my Faith.

As I now pass the 67 year old mark, this passage from the bible that has always been a head scratcher for me is beginning to make more sense.

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen
Hebrews 11:1
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Re: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 08:41:08 pm »
This last comment is why I like your work so much, and your overall attitude and approach.

Doing a great job with this page and the cross posting, BTW. I put a LOT of your stuff up on the Book of Faces.

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Re: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 02:30:39 pm »
Surly,
Thank you for sharing my zeal to spread hard truths as well as hope, no matter how forlorn that hope may look,

You and I KNOW that hope is out there and it is REAL. 
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Doctors Told Sam He Had Until He Was 13
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 08:45:35 pm »

Sam with his loving parents

Doctors Told Sam He Had Until He Was 13. He's Almost 17. Here’s How He's Fighting.


Adam Albright-Hanna

Sam Berns has progeria, a disease which accelerates the body's aging process. A pair of Oscar-winning filmmakers followed him for three years to make what looks like an amazing documentary about his life. "Life According to Sam" airs on HBO starting Monday, Oct. 21.


Poignant, but Inspirational too, Video Here
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They Said He Was ‘Evil’ And ‘Bad,’ But He’s Actually Really, Really Astonishingly Good 



When Alonzo Clemons was young, he was sent away to be cared for at an institution. Seems like the staff there had no clue what incredibly beautiful things Alonzo had to share.


Alana Karsch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEwt40SAeU&feature=player_embedded

 https://www.upworthy.com/they-said-he-was-evil-and-bad-but-hes-actually-really-really-astonishingly-good?c=upw1
 
 
 


 
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Letter to a Gaia Person

The Biosphere: A SACRED TRUST

August of 2013

WHD, a Gaia person, wrote to Agelbert the following:
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You exemplify what humans are capable of. As does Ashvin. It is mostly the latter that I spar with, and I do so because I believe what I say to be true to myself, that I have faith that it is true, and to offer an alternative viewpoint.

WHD

Thank you, WHD.

There is much good in humanity. Ashvin (a fellow Christian) and I may not put a lot of emphasis on that    but there is altogether way too much evidence that we, as a species, are seriously out of whack with the biosphere. We think it's original sin. I have no idea if the "Eve eating the fruit" thing was a metaphor, analogy, or whatever. I guess I'm not a fundy in that respect. I believe that the biosphere is a sacred trust. I believe it is a fallen biosphere and understand and respect the fact that you don't.

As far as Homo SAP is concerned, I zero in on selfishness and the behavioral science observation that human children are greedy by nature and must be trained to see the benefits of cooperation and altruism. This is not a religious or faith based view by behavioral sciences.

My explanation for this is a fallen nature of which selfishness is just one (though I do think it's the biggy) part of a larger picture.

This is offensive to you because you feel the answer to mankind's disharmony with the biosphere and his fellows is to respect the land as sacred.

But if there is no god and we are simply rogue elements of gaia's immune system giving gaia a form of AIDS by our planetary toxification, it is illogical to expect us to even grasp the meaning of the word "sacred", never mind enabling us to humbly accept that we are only truly functional as tiny symbiotic organisms on a planetary entity.

1. We are big trouble for each other and the biosphere.

2. We MUST revere the biosphere as a sacred trust if we are to function as we were designed to.

3. God designed us that way but somewhere along the way we gave God the finger which resulted in our fallen nature.

4. In our present state, we need God to keep us from extending that "finger" to our fellows and everything around us resulting in our extinction.

5. You feel that requires submitting to a God figure that you don't owe a thing to and that is tied to patriarchal oppression of women, nonsensical ritual and this silly idea that you are doomed without God's intercession to lift you out of the rut of perpetual sin and disharmony from God's garden.

But can we agree that, beyond the obvious "Gaia feeds me so I must tend to what provides for me" stomach pleasing logic of a self aware, selfish being, pretending the land in particular or the biosphere in general is sacred is practically impossible?

If not, please analyze the concept of sacredness and you will see that it is a term associated with something or someone superior to you in every respect; something that requires that you humble yourself before it.

I believe God is sacred. His communication to us may be a bit distorted by our fallen nature but without Him, there is no chance that mankind (as a whole - regardless of the great work of permaculturists like yourself) can live in harmony with nature because of our fallen nature.

We can argue about original sin, the concept of "sin", how did it all begin, why doesn't God get off His fat ass and fix it if He really exists, why is there so much evil in religions if He is behind creating them, etc., but the problem of Homo SAP's violence towards his fellows and the biosphere continues unabated.

Behavioral science has, if anything, made things WORSE by claiming the "selfish gene" gives Homo SAP and "evolutionary advantage". BALONEY!

Science tells us we are fouling our nest and we are doing it because we are so SMART!!?

God tells us we are fouling our nest because we have a fallen nature.

IMHO, only by humbling ourselves before God, accepting we are sinners and doomed to trash the place (and each other) because of our fallen nature and seeking salvation can we learn to RESPECT the biosphere as a SACRED trust.

I just don't see how you can get people to consider the biosphere and this planet as SACRED (a necessary condition for us to be symbiotic with nature) any other way.

God has power over us. Gaia is in subjection to us. What has mankind ever done with something he has in subjection except treat it/they as a slave to ravage at his perverse, selfish, egocentric pleasure?  ???

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sa·cred  adj.

1.  Dedicated to or set apart for the worship of a deity.

2.  Worthy of religious veneration: the sacred teachings of the Buddha.

3.  Made or declared holy: sacred bread and wine.

4.  Dedicated or devoted exclusively to a single use, purpose, or person: sacred to the memory of her sister; a private office sacred to the President.

5.  Worthy of respect; venerable.

6.  Of or relating to religious objects, rites, or practices.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sacred

Self centered, egocentric, selfish beings will never consider anything SACRED but THEMSEVES.  :(
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Re: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2013, 09:13:45 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB_yrWppP0c&feature=player_embedded
In memoriam of an outstanding, brave and resourceful human being. He is an example for all of us of what is possible. A lot of the credit goes to his mother. Ben is in heaven now but there is a special place in heaven for courageous, brave, observant, motivated, tirelessly optimistic and love filled and giving people like his mom.
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Terrific video, AG. Another reason for optimism via sustainable living.

Great find. Not the least of which is steam-powered electricity.

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Surly,
Glad you liked it. I felt quite peaceful watching it. Up here in Trailer heaven, my front neighbor demolished his trailer in sitio with all that "nice" insulation flying around for us to breathe some fiberglass and the poor squirrels to add to their nests which will sicken them while they breath it. SIGH.... My wife was fit to be tied. I told her it only took a month and the  guy HAS TO bring in a new trailer so that raises the value of our home. The guy is a total nut case. AFTER the place isn't there anymore, he STILL comes by every day and parks near the cement trailer pad slab! WTF??! He had a Marine Corps Flag and a US Flag that he didn't take down until they took that last piece of (I hesitate to call it wood  :P) from his dilapidated POS house. Anyway, he retreated temporarily from the place because it is a bit difficult to live on cement slab and it doesn't look good to be exercising biological functions in plain site.  ;D But the crazy territorial marine is tame compared with the taxi cab driver neighbor to my right. ALL the old beds, bed boards, mattresses, a broken  bicycle, all sorts of particle board furniture left outdoors to rot, pieces of old siding and insulation, a huge punching hanging in the trees for several years now (winter or summer - they never take it down  :P), a moldy basketball, etc. are ALL 'arranged" so the people from the street don't see it too well and WE see the trash every time we go into our yard.

The pile of crap just keeps getting bigger. SIGH... The other three sides of there houses have ZERO trash. These people hate our ****ing guts because we are still here. The silent treatment doesn't work on us and that really ****es them off.

So, about a year ago they began piling more junk on the side of their trailer while we keep ours neat. Meanwhile on the other side, we have a line of milk gallons filled with water on the property line (we aren't allowed to build a fence or grow a hedge - the park rules apply to the spic invaders but NOT to Vermonters, never mind what the law says...). The "gentleman" of advanced years there has a bit of a problem remembering where his yard ends and ours begins. Four years ago we had the park owner, who refused to plant trees on the line after saying she would do it for months,  put a ribbon on the boundary to remind the "gentleman" where his side was. Twice we called the police on him. The cop just talks nice to him and claimed he wasn't breaking the law but warned us no to go in the "gentleman's" yard. My wife put the gallons on the line and the "gentleman", after a few years gave up trying to impinge on our side but HE puts all HIS junk on our side too for us to see. Oh the joys of being persona non grata. But then again, I confess that I really would not like to hang around this pack of troglodytes that surround me either. They are VERY limited people. May God Bless and Keep them AWAY FROM ME and my WIFE. This pack of ignorant bigoted ****s think they are intelligent and resourceful! LOL!

Oh well, that's life. May God help me maintain my composure. You know, I could have helped these neighbors in many areas but, no, I don't qualify for their purebred whiteness and my wife and I are depressing the hell out of them by not leaving after nearly 20 years. No wonder our neighbors are trashing their places like they lived in West Virginia. It's the PITS to have to say your neighbor is PUERTO RICAN. AGH! Their property values are being depressed by my presence. POOR THEM!

Well, there's no problem here hat a firing squad wouldn't cure. If anarchy ever breaks out here, I am toast! My French, German, Spanish and Italian roots don't mean JACK **** to these people. But, whatever, we keep to ourselves. We do what we can. God help us.

I wish a tornado would come through here and clean the place up good and proper. J.C. wasn't kidding when He said, "In the world you will have TRIBULATION". I'm pretty tired of it. Oh well, nothing lasts forever, good or bad, so we'll get through eventually somehow to a better world away from this valley of tears.

On the plus side, while working on all these motions, briefs, allegations, complaints and general written activities to **** off a judge in Puerto Rico, I've picked up on various u-tube "videos"(not) that play all sorts of classical music good for thinking, reading or just relaxing.


Here are some of the links if you want a pleasant auditory experience:



Vivaldi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Nficz8WZwrk

Westhoff Violin Sonatas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DOIRJoHnZYQ

Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igETT7Wyt4Y&feature=player_detailpage


Jean-Marie Leclair Complete Flute Sonatas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwnsyEtkK0&feature=player_detailpage
                 

Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata (60 Minutes Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWmj1bMR4Mo&feature=player_detailpage


G.F.Haendel - Water Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cnn3TVBDtcA


Psalms 86:13: For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.
Psalms 86:14: O God, the proud are risen against me, and the assemblies of violent men have sought after my soul; and have not set thee before them.
Psalms 86:15: But thou, O Lord, art a God full of compassion, and gracious, longsuffering, and plenteous in mercy and truth.

 
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