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Agelbert NOTE: This is part of a series of posts involving the correct action by Surly to delete a hate fullied post by Palloy.

If Surly had, he would have owned it and explained why he was doing  it, I think. Not sure about RE. He's drugged out of his gourd at the moment, so who knows.

I have made inquires to both RE and Surly about the missing posts. Not sure what happened, but I question whether it was a mod at all. Occasionally comments do disappear completely on this platform and reappear months or even years later.

It was me. One comment was a vicious trolling of RE, and another was ad hom disparaging a poster's religion. Well beyond the bounds of taste and decorum, and I own it fully. With no regrets.


I'm not second-guessing Surly. I have his back. If he says a post was in violation, I believe him. However, it helps for moderators to give some explanation when they feel the need to delete a comment. Otherwise, things can get confusing.

This is a double-edged sword.  To acknowledge you deleted a comment is to invite commentary on the deletion process to begin with.  Then you get into the "free speech" debate and "censorship".  It also costs you time and energy to defend your reasons for the deletion.  The whole purpose of doing this is to NOT get into such debates, they are off the topic at hand.  They derail the topic.

I didn't see this posting, although I could go look for it in the DNF file.  Once a Mod chooses to delete though, I have no interest in it.  It is no longer up for public consumption, for whatever the reason was that the Mod made this decision. 


I remain loath to delete any post. And I will tolerate a great deal of opprobrium directed at me. But I hate gratuitous bulling, and cruelty from any vector. And have decided I'm not going to put up with it any longer.

What those who like to snipe never, quite deliberately 😈, want to understand is that First Amendment Free Speech is NOT a libertine's license to hurl gratuitous insults at a person.

The reason for that is that the MOTIVE of said insults is ALWAYS, though the clever person hurling the insult will deny it in perfect sophistic form , to undermine the credibility of the messenger, NOT to claim disagreement with the message.

THIS is the CRUX of the free speech argument. IF you are disagreeing, it's fine and dandy to say so. BUT, if you are claiming the argument is flawed because the one delivering the argument is an ****, you are NOT exercising free speech and deserve to be DISAPPEARED from civilized discourse.

I have tried for many years to get you, Eddie, to see the difference. I think you do but sometimes you don't want to deal with it. But, at least you are honest about it.

Insults, UNLESS they are blow off "insults" to the person doing the insulting ;D, DO NOT edify those communicating or advance the dialogue, Eddie!

As to certain others here who play the objective saint 😇 some days  while refusing to even address their occasional descents into bold faced attack the messenger mode, I am done even addressing these sanctimoneous cretins when they are in attack mode.

Arrogant lack of humilty is not simply unChristian, it is prima facie evidence of IRRATIONALITY. These people LACK objectivity. Listening to said people is stupid.

There are many reasons to keep the destructive poison said people spew from public disourse and NO reason whatsoever to protect their customary hate filled invective. These are people, as Surly indirectly stated in a recent comment, that never grew out of the childish tantrum/playground bully stage.

Everyone knows that the best way to deal with a spoiled brat is to censor their behavior. Some brats grow up and learn to stop that heinous conduct. Some don't. That's their problem.

Allowing them to continue this anti-social destructive critcism rewards this heinous conduct and encourages MORE OF IT!

As a Christian, I often have to remind people that turning the other cheek does not mean feeding a SICK NEED!

Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate:
For the Lord will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them. Pr. 22:22-23


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