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Author Topic: Human Life is Fragile but EVERY Life is Valuable  (Read 15791 times)

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... dependent on so many immeasurable variables that it is effectively random.

... let us discuss a phenomenon that psychology (based entirely on your world view that we live in a random universe)

Whoa - you have turned "effectively random" (for one person) into "a random universe".  That is the exact opposite of what I believe, and I'm pretty sure you know that.  You would also know (about me) that I would have little truck with what psychologists say.

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they want to change the term  "Illusion of Control" to "Illusion of Futility"!

That isn't what they say at all - "the illusion of control itself may be an illusion, or at least only part of the story". They are saying if you have little control, you feel like you have more, and if you have lots of control, you feel like you have less.  You do them an injustice by laughing at them for something they didn't say.  If it mattered, I would look at the experiments they performed, and how many people actually fitted their profile - I doubt it would be 100%, or anything like it.  But when it gets translated in English simple enough for the average reader, all that statistical doubt gets lost.

When doctors over-prescribe pain killers, it is likely because too much won't hurt, while too little will (and might also cause themselves to be dragged out of bed in the middle of the night to re-prescribe).  Everybody responds differently to pain-killers, and the patient is the best arbiter, not the doctor.  So no need to invoke the Illusion of Control, or faith, there.

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That's an interesting point of view considering that particle physics does accept spooky action at a distance as an (as yet) unexplainable fact that DOES NOT use any energy whatsoever to accomplish that task. The entire world of physics was forced to adopt the multiverse theory (TOTALLY lacking ANY scientific evidence WHATSOEVER) because the incredibly exquisite fine tuning of this universe argues for a creator.

That's a complete misunderstanding on multiple fronts.  Do you seriously think the term "spooky action" popped out of a mathematical equation?  Out of ALL sub-atomic physicists trying to feel their way through a difficult problem, SOME have suggested way-out theories, but the rest just smile politely and carry on with their own theories. 

Compare that with when Einstein postulated the the universe wasn't 3-D (like Newton said), but 4-D with the 3 Length dimensions plus Time, adjusted to make it also a Length dimension by multiplying it by a speed "c" (Time x (Length/Time) = Length).  The outcome of such a universe is that nothing go faster than that speed c, and that a key axiom, that Mass is constant, that was so obvious that Newton never even mentioned it, is wrong!  A mind-blowingly different theory, but quickly accepted by all who could understand it.  If Newton had kept up with things from the other side, he would have agreed too.

There is no "exquisite fine-tuning" of fundamental constants.  They are what they are, that's all, and that makes the universe like it is (and thank goodness for that).  It doesn't "argue for a creator", there is no argument there at all.

So, the true (see arrogance, hubris, stubbornness and appalling ignorance piled on top) Palloy emerges.
 
Absolutely every discussion with you devolves into hairsplitting BULLSHIT posed BY YOU to AVOID the overall poverty of your logic and the paucity of your "evidence" for BELIEVING the fairy tales you have been brainwashed with.

Not only do you have ZERO interest in logical debate, despite your disingenuous appearance of a willingness to do so, when you can't "make your points", you stoop to ridicule, appeals to authority and nuanced ad hominem typical of university prof snark.   


 

A day in the life of Palloy and MattS when they discover one of their own credentialed poobahs does not tow the "RELIGION of evolution" line or the "LIFELESS particle physics and RANDOM (but oh, so luckily fine tuned because one of the zillions of multiverses HAD to be! LOL!) UNIVERSE" line or the "BELIEF in the power of mind over matter is SILLY" line (and so on).

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:37

 

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