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Re: Intelligent Design
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2017, 05:16:15 pm »
Our Created Solar System - What You Aren't Being Told


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What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy Volume 1

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The best evolutionary models say that many of the planets in our solar system should not exist. Yet there they are.   ;D

Did God create our Solar System less than 10,000 years ago, as the Bible says? Or did it form all by itself from a cloud of gas 4,600,000,000 years ago, as secular astronomers claim? Which account of history is true? ???

Recent discoveries in space has supported the Biblical account. Each planet in our Solar System defies the evolutionary model in multiple ways.

Many of the planets and moons appear to be young, not billions of years old. Plus, these objects show evidence of design, not random processes.

In this video, you will tour our magnificent Solar System, and explore these wonders in the heavens. Along the way, you will visit each of the planets and many of their moons, through more than 230 breath-taking photographs and graphics from NASA and other sources. You will see how each planet uniquely testifies of its Creator.

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ABOUT: Spike Psarris was previously an engineer in the United States’ military space program. He entered that program as an atheist and an evolutionist. He left it as a creationist and a Christian.

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Re: Intelligent Design
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2017, 02:04:19 pm »
From a discussion of ego on another forum

Why do so many Diners seem to place such a high value on "egolessness"?  ???  :icon_scratch:  Does being egoless somehow make you a better person than someone who has an ego?  Are you closer to perfection as a Homo Sap if you are egoless?

Moreover, WHY would you WANT to be egoless?  That's like wanting to go outside not wearing your underwear.  I certainly would not want to live in a world full of egoless people.  What would you talk with them about?

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Probably because every single problem or predicament faced by humanity can be traced back to our pride and ego (using the word to mean "a person's sense of self-importance").  If you want to solve the problems you have to deal with their roots.   

Ego certainly provides for "a person's sense of self-importance," but it is more then just that.  I would say that ego is like the mental body.  It is made very real by the mistake we make of allowing it to be real, to be taken seriously. 

However, it's also a necessary thing to have if you are going to be of the world.  If you are going to renounce the world, and live in a monastery, or in a cave in the wilderness, then you no longer need an ego.  In fact, going to a monastery is very much about giving yourself the ability to live without ego.  At least as close to that state as you can get. 

What is personality if not the things our ego has attached to and made into self?  Our preferences and distastes are all made possible by the process of attachment.  Which is why, in Buddhist philosophy, attachment is the fundamental problem.  It's the root cause of all suffering.  It's akin to the concept of original sin in Christianity.  To not be attached to anything is to be egoless.  That includes opinions and preferences.  I'm not the Buddhist monk on the Diner though...Knarf is, and I'm glad he's still here.  I have much respect for his way of life. 

I got distracted on my way to fetch the water.   :laugh:

Well if we make the "ego" equivalent to our identity as personal beings and the sense of selfhood, then I would agree with RE that there's nothing wrong with ego. I don't believe the world is something to be detached from, but rather something to be revered, maintained and taken in with gracious hearts. To do this, we must have opinions and make judgments on ourselves and others.

In most Christian theology our selfhood is real and important, but our fundamental sin is thinking and behaving in a way that places more importance on one's own self than on God or other "selfs". There is no way to avoid this completely in a fallen state, but we should certainly recognize it and do what we can to tip the scales.


DW, The only entropy a human can undergo is decomposing after death. Homeostatic pressure of the ego is its desperation for self preservation. The neurological state of meditation is slow wave activity. The mechanism is your whole parasympathetic nervous system. The mechanism for thinking is your brain. That it is the same thing used for ego is similar to the fact that the same hand can build things or break things.

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18 The teaching about the cross seems foolish to those who are lost. But to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

19 As the Scriptures say, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise.  I will confuse the understanding of the intelligent.”

20 So what does this say about the philosopher, the law expert, or anyone in this world who is skilled in making clever arguments? God has made the wisdom of the world look foolish.

21 This is what God in his wisdom decided: Since the world did not find him through its own wisdom, he used the message that sounds foolish to save those who believe it.

22 The Jews ask for miraculous signs, and the Greeks want wisdom. 23 But this is the message we tell everyone: Christ was killed on a cross. This message is a problem for Jews, and to other people it is nonsense.

Agelbert NOTE: There sure are a lot of "Greeks" at the above forum.  :(
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Re: Intelligent Design
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2017, 01:25:12 pm »
Titan's surface and atmosphere: Possible ONLY if our solar system is over 4 BILLION of years YOUNGER.

Published on Jan 14, 2015

For the probe landing’s 10th anniversary, a new sequence has been rendered from Huygens’ Descent Imager/Spectral Radiometer (DISR) data. The craft landed on Saturn’s largest moon on 14 Jan 2005. -- Landing Animation: http://goo.gl/6t6XuA

Credit: Erich Karkoschka, DISR team, University of Arizona


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Why is Titan's surface and atmosphere an embarrassment for the scientists who believe our solar system is 4.6 billion years old? 

SEE BELOW: ;D

How Do We Know Our Solar System Is Young?

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One of the most accepted hypothesis or theories in evolutionary science claim our solar system formed about 4.6 billion years ago. Many theories have been built around this assumption in order to make predictions of what is out there in space. On the other hand, the Biblical account implies a much younger solar system. Is there evidence for a young solar system? The answer is, “yes!” Evolutionary scientists call it a mystery while creation scientists call it a confirmation.

The old age framework claims an accretion disk appeared which gravity used to flatten into a spinning disk.  From this disk over millions of years they claim, gravity caused planets to form and other objects. Once it reached a certain level or point, the excess gas and dust dissipated and cleared away, leaving the solar system as we observe it today.


Proto-solar solar system accretion disk according to evolutionary theory

The disk, also known as a nebula, then becomes the source from which everything in our solar system was formed. However as science advances, evidence for a young solar system has been causing problems with this hypothesis.  Chemical-change is a good indicator on how old an object is. The Cassini mission with its probe has been one of the amazing tools for discovering what is going on in our solar system!

For one thing, Scientists who have been modelling Titan’s atmosphere have made calculations using old-age assumptions concluded that no methane should be present on Titan rather it should have been used up in the first tens of millions of years of the moon’s history. There is some replenishment going on with the methane which is evaporating off Titan’s surface but not enough to account for the amount detected by the Cassini probe.  There is a lot of chemical-changing activity going on which is why evolutionary scientists were surprised to find so much methane on Titan. Also, methane escaping Titan’s thick atmosphere into space lowers the ten million year range as well.

Read about more embarrassments for the  true believers in the solar system accretion disk theory at link:   
 
https://thebibleistheotherside.wordpress.com/2012/02/06/how-do-we-know-our-solar-system-is-young/
 

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Re: Intelligent Design
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 01:57:40 pm »

Agelbert NOTE:Though it doesn't specifically say it, this video provides more evidence for a young Titan (i.e. Maximum age of in the millions of years, not billions of years  see previous post on this thread) This entertaining video provides some hard scientific facts about Titan (Earth like atmospheric pressure despite low gravity, 98% nitrogen atmosphere, THICKER atmosphere than earth - that WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST if this moon was billions of years old, size comparisons, etc.):


Swimming in Titan's Lakes

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Published on May 19, 2017

Titan, moon of Saturn, and is the second largest moon in the Solar System. It has an atmosphere, alive surface and seas and lakes made out of liquid methane and ethane. So then, what would swimming in these lakes be like? Watch the video to find out.

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Re: Intelligent Design
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2018, 11:09:11 pm »
What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy - Vol. I (Our Created Solar System)

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"Our Created Solar System” reveals what you aren't being told by the secular media.

In this video, you'll tour our magnificent Solar System. You'll visit each planet through more than 200 beautiful photographs and graphics from NASA and other sources. You will see how each planet uniquely testifies of its Creator.

Your host is Spike Psarris, a former engineer in the U.S. military space program. He entered that program as an atheist and left it as a creationist and a Christian. 🕊
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Re: Intelligent Design
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2020, 06:19:43 pm »
Michael Denton Remarkable Coincidences in Photosynthesis -- ID The Future Podcast
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On this episode of ID the Future, we listen in on a few minutes from a lecture given by CSC Senior Fellow Michael Denton. We’ve all heard of the importance of photosynthesis as an oxygen creating process. In this segment, Denton explains the “remarkable set of coincidences” which makes the creation of oxygen through photosynthesis possible. From the specific energy of visible light to the unique properties of water, this degree of improbability screams DESIGN. For more and to download this episode go to: https://www.discovery.org/multimedia/...

For more on how the cosmos is designed for life, watch Discovery Institute’s documentary Priviledged Species, featuring Michael Denton, at http://privilegedspecies.com/.

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You've heard the hype, now learn the truth. Subscribe to the podcast Intelligent Design: The Future. Exploring issues central to the case for intelligent design from the Big Bang to the bacterial flagellum and beyond.
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Re: Intelligent Design
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The Effects of Mutation ( Secrets of the Cell with Michael Behe, Ep. 4)
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Biochemist and bestselling author Michael Behe explores the impact of mutations on evolution in Episode 4 of his series "Secrets of the Cell with Michael Behe." Do random mutations and natural selection provide an explanation for the development of new organisms and features in the history of life? For more information and to dig deeper about the topics in this series, visit:
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In-depth Explanation of What Caused Noah's Flood - Dr. Kurt Wise



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Dr. Kurt Wise explored the impact of the global flood on the earth in a series of three in-depth lectures. This lecture on the “geophysics of the flood,” the third in the series, provides a fascinating look at the processes behind the global flood. The question of how a global Flood could happen is an important area of research for modern creation scientists. One of the theories used to explain this process was developed by a number of scientists featured in the film. It is known as “Catastrophic Plate Tectonics and has a great deal of explanatory power concerning the geophysical processes behind the global catastrophe.

Dr. Wise earned his BA in geology from the University of Chicago, and his MA and PhD degrees in paleontology from Harvard University. He founded and directed the Center for Origins Research at Bryan College and taught biology there for 17 years. He then led the Center for Theology and Science at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary for 3 years, before founding and directing the Center for Creation Research and teaching biology at Truett McConnell University for the last 7 years. His fieldwork has included research in early Flood rocks in the Death Valley region, late Flood rocks in Wyoming, and post-Flood caves in Tennessee.

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The Best movie explaining Noah's Flood Ever made!
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Agelbert NOTE: Great special effects! Also, check out the comments for further clarifcation of the scientific accuracy of the worldwide flood that God made sure Noah, his family and a bunch of land creatures, survived. 

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We believe that the Bible is true and can be put to the test for validity. We obviously know that the Bible has parables, allegories, poems, laws, short stories, genealogy, proverbs, sermons, prayers, prophecy, proverbial text, epistles, etc. But most importantly history. What we do is test the history spoken of in the Bible with science and let the evidence speak for itself. We discovered that the evidence is in favor of Creation which just so happens to falsify evolution theory. This is why they know we are a threat and must remove Creation science from the education system at any cost.

Evolution theory is nothing but an attempt to rule out God that mixes truth with lies. Hutton's Book "Theory of the Earth" was published in 1795, it was designed to make the population doubt the Earth was 6,000 years old. Then Lyell's (a lawyer) book "Principles of Geology" published in 1830, was designed to make the population doubt the Flood. Even in his words, it was to "rid the science of Moses". Then in 1859 Darwin's book "Origin of Species" was published which made people doubt Creation. Darwin said He murdered God. He used a step by step process to use secularism as the new religion.
   
Message from Mattman... I once believed in Evolution like most, but after I really began to uncover the evidence all that changed. Now I am here to unveil the deception we were all told was the truth. Let me give you a few examples of how the theory has already been falsified yet remains.

Here is the evolutionary theory in action! Flip-flopping U-turning, Reinventing, and Rescue devices.

*Darwin also predicted evolution as a gradual process known today as Darwinian Gradualism. However many out of place fossils were discovered that falsified this so they invented “punctuated equilibrium” as a rescue device for when evolution speeds up real fast in a time frame that is far too short for gradual evolutionary processes. Then they found that these slow processes can not move at all as they found “living fossils”. So they invented the “stasis” rescue device.

They also had a problem when the evidence showed that Darwin's slow natural processes which was called “natura non facit saltus” meaning “nature does not make jumps" were found to make huge jumps. This was named “Saltationism" a complete contradiction. If it goes backward it's called de-evolution, or backward evolution in biology. As you can see, they rescued their fable by inventing new hypotheses and adding them into gradualism. Another perfect example of how and why evolution is not science, but pure unfalsifiable nonsense.

*Back in the 60's evolution predicted that because deep time must be true, living organisms shouldn't share any genetic similarities because deep time would have separated them far too much. Then it was found they share many! So his predictions were removed and now it's used as one of the best pieces of evidence FOR evolution when it's actually a falsification of the theory.

*Dead Worthless Junk DNA became non-coding regulatory DNA. A clever rhetorical strategy they often use: Call it evolutionary junk at first; Then when functions are found, call it the "motor of evolution." Notice their rescued device every time is that they just ASSERT or ASSUME co-option.

* Functionless evolutionary leftover organs become functional organs deemed vestigial organs (lost primary function).

• A Singular Evolutionary tree became a 3 tier domain bush of life = Bacteria, Achaea, Eukarya.

*Mitochondrial clocks; The Observed fast rates from the pedigree method, became the slow phylogenetic assumption method because the clocks were falsifying the deep time theory.

Falsification after falsification happens but gets rescued by getting renamed time and time again everywhere you look. The theory exists to make the population ignorant and not special at all. "I don't want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers". = 😈 John D. Rockefeller (Creator of the General Education Board (GEB) started in 1903. 🦖 Rockefeller funds education to this day.

The evidence is overwhelming for YEC, and even with it being taught to the majority till over 40% of the population knows the Earth is young. This shows their indoctrination and lies have little effect on truth.

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