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End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« on: May 17, 2017, 05:17:40 pm »
My posts a few days ago about a market CRASH seem to have been prescient.  8)
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adjective: prescient

having or showing knowledge of events before they take place.



Jim Rogers It s Time to Prepare MAY 2017 will be bad for the dollar, US economy & stock market
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Jim Rogers It s Time to Prepare MAY 2017 will be collapse for the dollar, US economy & stock market.

Could be starting. 372 points sounds like a lot, but it's only 1.78% now. Not a crash, but maybe topping. All the WS bears are saying a Trump impeachment might crash the market. Some others are saying the cyber attack might do it. I don't think we're ready for the Big One yet, but I dunno. Stocks have been way overvalued for years.

Yep. My wife and I had a discussion about this from the view that Trump is technically in control of the plunge protection ex nihilo money creating counterfeiters at the Fed who jack up stocks when they fall beyond "acceptable" limits.

I said that TPTB are NOT going to save Trump's arse IF they want him to go down, which means the long overdue massive correction (as anybody that has looked at the ridiculous valuations and debt to equity ratios of the can see are historically unsustainable harbingers of a plus 10% correction, if not a crash). IOW, tomorrow will be the TELL. Right now Trumpy is yelling his head off telling at his team to GET THOSE STOCKS UP!

If the plunge protection team says "the dog ate their market software lunch" ;)  and they cannot stop the "correction" because they, uh, can't buy gazillion futures before the market opens or/and high speed pump buy bids every time indexes begin tanking to stop the red ink, then the next stop is the "automatic" trading stop brake within the markets. Again, if Wall Street has decided to dump Trump and take their chances with pseudo Christian stuffed shirt Pence, those brakes won't be too "effective".   

My wife said that Trump has all that figured out and does NOT want Pence to replace him if TPTB game convinces Trump that they are out to GIT him out of the White House. She thinks that Trump will try to get Pence "removed" through resignation or "lead poisoning" ;) so that Trump can shove Jared in there before Trump is impeached so Trump can be "pardoned in advance" by Jared (just like Ford did to Nixon).

It's an intriguing theory with some heavy duty spiritual connotations because Jared is the 666 building guy that (although you think this is bullshit, I think it very well might be true) has every indication of being the Anti-Christ predicted in the Book of Daniel, Revelation and the Gospels.

The rest of this week will be very informative for those with the wisdom to understand the unfolding of these events.
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What do people mean when they say: THE END TIMES ???

For those who wish to know what, exactly, the "End Times" mean to a bible Believing Christian, it is not difficult to summarize.

When Christ incarnated into human form around 2000 years ago, the End Times officially began. This is known as the 70th "week" according to the Book of Daniel. The End Times culminate with what is known as the Great Tribulation of 7 years duration.

After that, there is a Theocratic Rule by Jesus Christ on the physical earth for about 1000 years, which ends with a big war and Satan removed from any human contact forever, along with the dematerialization of the physical universe (rolled up like a scroll). The replacement is just as physical, more permanent and, unlike our fallen universe, perfect.

For all practical purposes, the Body of Christ, otherwise known as the Christian Church (NOT to be confused with ANY organization with buildings called churches or temples labelling themselves as "Christian" - although there may or may not be members of the Body of Christ there) ends it's Holy Spirit guided ministry on earth at the time of the Great Tribulation.

Some believe the Church will be not be raptured and must go though the Great Tribulation. Others believe the Church will be raptured (taken to heaven bodily without going though physical death) immediately before the Great Tribulation begins. That is, the absence of the Church on earth (along with the Holy Spirit that guided it) allows Satan to put his man, the Anti-Christ, in charge.

I will discuss these different views and point to the scripture (section of the bible with quote and explanation) that argues the different points of view.

Any news or views related to the End Times that I come across will be posted here. Questions and comments are welcome. Criticize all you want, but do not engage in Ad hominem attacks. Those will be deleted. Respectful posting is sine qua non in this topic and in this thread.

We ARE in the END TIMES and have been in them for over 2000 years. I believe the prophecies in the Book of Daniel about the Anti-Christ and the Great Tribulation are about to be fulfilled.


It is my duty as a Christian to warn people who are "Christian", in name only, that they are doomed if they do not stop the worship of materialistic prosperity that defames the Name of Jesus Christ.

I will have much more to say about the Laodicean Church type "Christians" as time goes by.

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Before any discussion of the End Times, it is important to obtain some background on the history of the King James Bible. 

History of The King James Bible: God's Perfect Word


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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 08:04:18 pm »
End Times Prophecy includes Signs and Wonders. Although I am not certain, I am convinced that the massive environmental damage going on is evidence that we are in the End Times. This does not mean we are all supposed to ignore the criminal behavior of the polluters causing it. They belong in prison, not in corporate boardrooms or government.

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It is an eery photo, the solar eclipse hovering over the deep south of the US as tropical storm Harvey aims for Texas, making landfall 8 days later causing unprecedented damage and record amounts of rainfall.


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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 07:14:11 pm »
The Soul Of The Trump Administration


Thom takes a dark look into the Trump Administration's actions. How far will this go? A 10 year old is being detained... Really?

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Matthew 25:

41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;

43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’

45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, in as much as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’

46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2017, 05:04:44 pm »
https://nypost.com/2017/11/22/how-a-homeless-mans-selfless-act-changed-his-life/

How a homeless man’s selfless act changed his life

What a wonderful story... A genuine miracle.



This is an example of a human that acted on principle, NOT on Maslow's hierarchy of selfish (SEE: Social Darwinsm) needs. The reason people like you and I find this sort of news heartwarming is because we understand, at a moral level, that this sort of behavior has merit that selfish, empathy deficit behavior does not.

The mockers are quick to claim we would all go broke if we behaved that way. That's hyperbole and a deliberate distortion of principled behavior to make it look like "irresponsible" behavior. The 'greed is good' crowd have been at that mendacious game since humans began to live in communities. Their mendacious claim, cleverly disguised as "prudent" advice, is, though they don't know it, Orwellian.

The fact is that achieving a society based on altruistic behavior is the only way that humanity will survive. This is the exact opposite of what the Social Darwinist Religionists believe.

Anybody with a lick of sense can see that human society is NOT getting better. Yet, most of those Social Darwinsits that point out the increasingly dangerous dysfunction of our society FLAT REFUSE to see the exact correlation between an increase in socially celebrated selfish behavior and the massive increase in social dysfunction.

I think I know why.

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30 A sound heart is the life of the flesh: but envy the rottenness of the bones.

31 He that oppresseth the poor reproacheth his Maker: but he that honoureth him hath mercy on the poor.
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 02:25:47 pm »
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2 Timothy 3:1-4

1 You must understand this: In the last days there will be violent periods of time.

2 People 🦀 will be selfish and love money. They will brag, be arrogant, and use abusive language. They will curse their parents, show no gratitude, have no respect for what is holy,

3 and lack normal affection for their families. They will refuse to make peace with anyone. They will be slanderous, lack self-control, be brutal, and have no love for what is good.

4 They will be traitors. They will be reckless and conceited. They will love pleasure rather than God.


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A Country Without a Heart

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In America, the almighty dollar 🦖 🦀 rules. Having a social conscience 🕊 is not part of the business model for most companies.


In 1972, Kurt Vonnegut covered the Republican National Convention in Miami Beach for Harper’s Magazine and wrote an essay about the experience, “In a Manner That Must Shame God Himself.”

According to Charles Shields, who wrote “And So It Goes: Kurt Vonnegut: A Life,” the title of the essay came from a flyer Vonnegut noticed that a group of Native Americans from various tribes were distributing at the convention. Part of the flyer read: “We come today in such a manner that must shame God himself. For a country that allows a complete body of people to exist in conditions which are at variance with the ideals of this country, conditions which daily commit injustices and inhumanity, must surely be filled with hate, greed, and unconcern.”

The same could be said about present-day America. In fact, during his reporting almost 50 years ago, Vonnegut, a master of irony, made another keen observation that applies today: “If I were a visitor from another planet, I would say … the two real political parties in America are the Winners and the Losers. The people do not acknowledge this. They claim membership in two imaginary parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, instead. Both imaginary parties are bossed by Winners. When Republicans battle Democrats, this much is certain: Winners will win.”

Vonnegut suggested that the “Winners’ 🦖 scheme … for lasting world peace 🦀” was simple: “Ignore agony.”

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https://www.truthdig.com/articles/country-without-heart/



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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2018, 07:06:43 pm »
The Apocalypse and the End Times

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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2018, 10:52:39 pm »
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BLESSED IS HE that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. Revelation 1:3
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Re: End Times according to the Judeo Christian Bible
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2018, 06:44:16 pm »


February 21, 2018
How Billy Graham 🐉 Evangelized for American Empire 🦖

Rev. Billy Graham gave his blessing to every military conflict under every president, from Truman to Bush II - Cecil Bothwell writes
By Cecil Bothwell

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Born on a prosperous dairy farm and educated at Wheaton College, Graham first gained national attention in 1949 when the publishing magnate William Randolph Hearst, searching for a spiritual icon to spread his anti-communist sentiments, discovered the young preacher holding forth at a Los Angeles tent meeting. Hearst wired his editors across the nation, “puff Graham,” and he was an instant sensation.

Hearst next contacted his friend and fellow publisher Henry Luce . Their Wall Street ally, Bernard Baruch , arranged a meeting between Luce and Graham while the preacher was staying with the segregationist Governor Strom Thurmond 🦀 in the official mansion in Columbia, S.Car. Luce concurred with Hearst about Graham’s marketability and Time and Life were enlisted in the job of selling the soap of salvation to the world. Time, alone, has run more than 600 stories about Graham.

The man who would become known as “the minister to presidents” offered his first military advice in 1950. On June 25, North Korean troops invaded South Korea and Graham sent Truman a telegram:

“MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS PRAYING GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM IN THIS CRISIS. STRONGLY URGE SHOWDOWN WITH COMMUNISM NOW. MORE CHRISTIANS IN SOUTHERN KOREA PER CAPITA THAN ANY PART OF WORLD. WE CANNOT LET THEM DOWN.”

It was the first time Graham encouraged a president to go to war, and with characteristic hyperbole: Korea has never topped the list of Christian-leaning nations. Subsequently, Graham gave his blessing to every conflict under every president from Truman to the second Bush, and most of the presidents, pleased to enjoy public assurance of God’s approval, made him welcome in the White House. Graham excoriated Truman for firing General Douglas MacArthur and supported the general’s plan to invade China. He went so far as to urge Nixon to bomb dikes in Vietnam—knowing that it would kill upward of a million civilians—and he claimed to have sat on the sofa next to G.H.W. Bush as the bombs began falling in the first Gulf War (though Bush’s diary version of the evening somehow excludes Graham, as does a White House video of Bush during the attack).

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Christian Dominionists 😈 Meet at Trump's Washington Hotel to Answer the "Divine 😈 Call to War"

Friday, March 09, 2018

By Bill Berkowitz, Truthout | News Analysis

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Though they are not nearly as well known as Christian Right leaders, such as Jerry Falwell Jr., Franklin Graham and Robert Jeffress Jr., top Dominionist leaders  like Dutch Sheets, Chuck Pierce, Cindy Jacobs and Lou Engle are a force worth paying attention to.

Those leaders, according to People for the American Way's Right Wing Watch, "are associated with the New Apostolic Reformation, which believes a triumphant, dominion-taking church 😈 will help bring about the return of Christ, and many are part of POTUS Shield 😈 , a network of self-described apostles 😈 and prophets 😈 who believe  ;) President Trump 🦀 was anointed by God to help bring that all about."

full article (bring your barf bag):

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/43793-christian-dominionists-meet-at-trump-s-washington-hotel-to-answer-the-divine-call-to-war

Agelbert NOTE: These people ARE NOT CHRISTIANS! The are pseudo-Christians that embody the Spirit of the ANTI-Christ in the USA. The Bible is VERY CLEAR about how you should treat people claiming to be brothers in Christ who's behavior evidences them as crooks and liars: You are not supposed to associate with them or even eat with them. The fact that these bastards worship Trump is evidence that they are not real Christians.
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There will be a lot of pieces to put back together, all at once, when he is gone.


Can the Republic Recover from Donald Trump?
here will be a lot of pieces to put back together, all at once, when he is gone.

Yates asked the assembled: What is going to happen when this administration is finally, blessedly over? It is a very good question and there is no very good answer to it.

This is a rhetorical question. Yates, and Charlie Pierce both are smart enough to figure out the answer.

It isn't Trump that's the worst problem. At some point he will be gone. The real problem is that the worst of the worst Americans, the Kochs, have finally captured the Executive branch in the same way they have successfully captured the Congress and state government.  It's game over folks. Checkmate.

Will you vote for President Pence, or President Scott Walker?  Or maybe President Greg Abbott.  Maybe Bob McDonnell of Virginia will run, now that his several criminal convictions have been reversed. They all know where to get the money. America's good Christian community will support them all the way.

They will lower taxes for any unfortunate point O-1 Percenters still left with a tax bill. They will make it legal to mine for coal where your house sits. They will drill for oil in Coral Bay, and bomb Turkey.[/size]

The USA is a disguised military dictatorship. Military dictatorships are the worse kind of parasite on an economy. Their main products are death and pollution.

We are toast.

 

You are absolutely correct AG. Because Trump and/or Clinton and/or Pence and/or any others that Eddie just named are merely symptoms of the lack of morals and integrity in this whole society which no longer is unified by any values but the worship of money and hedonism and selfishness. The entire world is being murdered and destroyed by these Satanists. They are Satanists because they are out to wallow in the destruction of everything even including themselves. Can God prevail? Or must he start over?

If God is God, then He/She/It cannot do anything but prevail. Most readers here at the Doomstead Diner either are atheists who disdain the "psychololigal weak minded crutch" of worshipping the Deity OR do not really give a fork as long as said Deity does not require worship and obedience to any moral code. The former claim to be "ethical".  Their only "ethics" based behavioral code is "might equals right" (Orwell lives!). The latter are an egotistical bunch that cannot, and will not, accept any constraints on their behavior by some uppity Deity that never asked them permission to be born into this plane of existence.

I KNOW that God IS God. I may never prevail, but God will prevail. Though for many years I was angrily frustrated about the lack of justice in human society, I now finally realize and accept the fact that no human has the mental equipment to question God's apparent lack of name takin' and ass kickin' on this planet.

Yeah, we've been trying to do that for a long, long time (see below).

Jeremiah 12 King James Version (KJV)

1 Righteous art thou, O Lord, when I plead with thee: yet let me talk with thee of thy judgments: Wherefore doth the way of the wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very treacherously?

2 Thou hast planted them, yea, they have taken root: they grow, yea, they bring forth fruit: thou art near in their mouth, and far from their reins.


Jeremiah was thoroughly bent out of shape when he wrote this. The next few passages has him asking for God to slaughter the bad guys with all sorts of colorful blood and guts mayhem.

3 But thou, O Lord, knowest me: thou hast seen me, and tried mine heart toward thee: pull them out like sheep for the slaughter, and prepare them for the day of slaughter.

4 How long shall the land mourn, and the herbs of every field wither, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein? the beasts are consumed, and the birds; because they said, He shall not see our last end.


I've been there with that. Many readers here, whether they worship themselves or the Law of Conservation of Energy  ;D, also want to kill off all the bad guys.

True, blessed are those folks who hunger and thirst for justice. So, I will not judge harshly those who want to kill off all the bad people making life difficult to miserable for the rest of us.

Their logic is sound as long as there is no afterlife.

I firmly believe there is an afterlife. I firmly believe this portion of human existence is an embryonic proving ground.

What comes after is as different as a majestic Sequoia tree is from a tiny seed.

Due to the inherent limitations of  a seed versus a tree, I can understand why so many other seeds around here think I am full of horse poopy.

Another analogy to the self-limiting modus vivendi of these seeds is Plato's Cave. I've seen what's on the outside of that cave. Nothing that goes on inside the cave compares to it. The cynical wishful thinkers that firmly believe that this cave of shadow boxing baloney is all there is are DEAD wrong.

I used to be just like them. But I finally got to a place where the real water of life cleared things up for me.


I still get depressed and I still rant about injustice, but I know all this is temporary. God IS God. I am not now, or ever will be, God. My job is to obey He/She/It, whether I like it or not. Seeds should never presume to know what it is like to be a Sequoia.
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Thank you AG. For your time and your excellent reply. Lots to think about there, and I will. Thank you again.

You are welcome.

   
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And Palloy doesn't get why I'm a bit conflicted by the current flavor of Christianity in the world. Evangelicals are completely delusional. Someone should tell them it's a small planet and that the Good News has already made it around the globe. The only people left to convert are the hungry people with no food. They'll listen to anything if you're buying dinner.

Everybody else already knows all about how God so loved the world that he sent white men with funny hair in private jets to fleece them for their spare change.


Preacher Asks Followers To Help Buy Fourth Private Jet For $54 Million

One would think that by the time you are buying your 4th private jet, you can afford it on your own; well in the case of US televangelist Jesse Duplantis, that's not the case: it turns out Jesse decided to share the burden of his newest toy with his followers, asking them to help fund his fourth private jet because Jesus "wouldn't be riding a donkey".

In other words, Jesse Duplantis said God had told him to buy a Falcoln 7X for $54 million.


And while according to BBC he was hesitant at first about the ridiculous purchase, when God told him "I didn't ask you to pay for it. I asked you to believe for it", all his doubts faded away.

While there have been similar ridiculous past requests by tele-evangelists, who pray on the stupid and the gullible, this particular appeal caused immediate controversy, and as noted by BBC, Twitter exploded with many users responding to the request with shock and disbelief, some quoting Bible verses warning against greed and "false prophets", or suggesting that the money could be better used to help the poor; others simply decided to slam the charlatan "preacher."

The belligerent responses, however, did not stop Duplantis: in a video address posted on his website, the 68-year-old explained: "You know, I've owned three different jets in my life, and I've used them and just burning them up for the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Now, some people believe that preachers shouldn't have jets. I really believe that preachers ought to go on every available voice, every available outlet, to get this Gospel preached to the world."


Standing beside framed pictures of his current fleet, he said that the jet he bought 12 years ago was no longer sufficient for his ministry because he could not fly non-stop, meaning he had to pay "exorbitant" refuelling costs. And what god allows his preachers to have to deal with that...

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In another picture which appeared in the video, the preacher stands with the three aircraft, above the caption: "It's not about possessions, it's about priorities."

To be sure, Duplantis came prepared and justified his request by saying that Jesus had told people to "go into the world and preach the Gospel to every creature, now how we gonna do that? I can't live long enough to travel by car or by ship or by train, but I can do it by an aeroplane".

In retrospect, flawless logic, and we certainly understand his motivation: surely there will be enough idiots within his "flock" who defray the $54 million purchase price; but why the fixation with private Well, in 2015, Mr Duplantis appeared in a video with another preacher, Kenneth Copeland, in which Mr Copeland described travelling on commercial airlines as being "in a long tube with a bunch of demons".

Come to think of it, he may be correct.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-31/preacher-asks-followers-help-buy-fourth-private-jet-54-million

Eddie, it gets better.  ;)

During the horrendous rains from Hurricane Harvey in Texas, a certain mega church prosperity preaching "Christian" (Palloy is right that anyone who doesn't walk the talk should not call themselves that without quotes) who never says ZIP about sin or sacrifice but just talks about lovey dovey and so on, REFUSED to open his church as a shelter for those flooded out. I don't remember that soul of perdition's name, but that is one the biggest "Christian" churches in the USA. So it goes.

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