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« Reply #293 on: September 15, 2019, 10:03:49 am »
Criminally Insane people do not negotiate; they fight to the death, no matter how irrational the biosphere trashing system that gave them all their short term privileges is. It will get ugly very soon.
It will, indeed. Especially when the elites lose control their various conduit schemes to sieve wealth away from working class people.
I wonder whether people will in fact actually "revolt,"given the the state controls every meaningful vector of force. The best way would be for people to become non-cooperative en masse.
Our civilization is far more fragile than meets the eye. TPTB, who are far more concerned with preserving the profit over people and planet (insane) status quo than we-the-people are, know that the present status quo is economically and environmentally unsustainable.
So, what do I think they are going to do about that? They are going to keep their bunkers in high tech condition and keep buying the cops. When, not if, the SHTF, they will attempt to "cull" 90% of the human population.
This is the essence of what I have believed for the past 10-15 years, and what led me to contemplate "collapse" and "doom." the ethic summed up by 19th century financier Jay Gould: "I can always hire half of the working class to kill the other half." The Great Culling is already under way, whether people are consciously aware or not. The multi-front wars against movement of peoples, against living off grid, against storing rainwater, of all things. All is restrictions on working people while we are reduced to penury. As you note, banjo- and handout-dependent. We are all afflicted by "presentism;" the belief that the future will look recognizably like the past. It will not. We lack the capacity to imagine a future that will look utterly unlike anything we have known. We see the future fed into the zeitgeist via the "Walkng Dead" franchises, and the notion of a zombie apocalypse complete with drive-thru cannibalism. Nom nom nom... the Anasazi were said to have served up a dish known as "malcorn." And the flesh of a conquered enemy was known as "longpig." We are not so far removed. You noted, That surviving half will finish destroying the key parts of the biosphere we depend on, descending into nuclear war or cannibalism. The gross barbarism will feed on itself and guarantee more mass death. Likely. It will be the perfect libertarian paradise: the endless war of all against all.
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« Reply #294 on: September 15, 2019, 01:55:33 pm »
Criminally Insane people do not negotiate; they fight to the death, no matter how irrational the biosphere trashing system that gave them all their short term privileges is. It will get ugly very soon.
It will, indeed. Especially when the elites lose control their various conduit schemes to sieve wealth away from working class people.
I wonder whether people will in fact actually "revolt,"given the the state controls every meaningful vector of force. The best way would be for people to become non-cooperative en masse.
Our civilization is far more fragile than meets the eye. TPTB, who are far more concerned with preserving the profit over people and planet (insane) status quo than we-the-people are, know that the present status quo is economically and environmentally unsustainable.
So, what do I think they are going to do about that? They are going to keep their bunkers in high tech condition and keep buying the cops. When, not if, the SHTF, they will attempt to "cull" 90% of the human population.
This is the essence of what I have believed for the past 10-15 years, and what led me to contemplate "collapse" and "doom."
the ethic summed up by 19th century financier Jay Gould:
"I can always hire half of the working class to kill the other half." The Great Culling is already under way, whether people are consciously aware or not. The multi-front wars against movement of peoples, against living off grid, against storing rainwater, of all things. All is restrictions on working people while we are reduced to penury. As you note, banjo- and handout-dependent.
We are all afflicted by "presentism;" the belief that the future will look recognizably like the past. It will not. We lack the capacity to imagine a future that will look utterly unlike anything we have known. We see the future fed into the zeitgeist via the "Walkng Dead" franchises, and the notion of a zombie apocalypse complete with drive-thru cannibalism. Nom nom nom...
the Anasazi were said to have served up a dish known as "malcorn." And the flesh of a conquered enemy was known as "longpig." We are not so far removed.
You noted,
That surviving half will finish destroying the key parts of the biosphere we depend on, descending into nuclear war or cannibalism. The gross barbarism will feed on itself and guarantee more mass death. Likely.
It will be the perfect libertarian paradise: the endless war of all against all.
Well said. I've heard about longpig, though I didn''t know about Anasazi malcorn. Longpig was quite the thing with certain Pacific island tribes for a while. They took a particular liking to the white meat version. It's understandable for a people that believed they obtained the strength of their enemies by eating them. In the Caribbean it was different, and somewhat more practical. The Caribe tribes, mostly based in Cuba before the Spaniards came and murdered them and all the other tribes in the Caribbean ( mostly the males - the women who were sufficently attractive were preserved for sex, cooking and cleaning), were in the habit of raiding Taino tribes in what we now call Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. They would kidnap young male children, put them in a cage and feed them as much food as the kids could eat. When sufficiently fattened, they were slaughtered and cooked. Except that male children of similar ages are usually a bit bigger in size than females, I do not understand the Caribe Cannibal preference for eating young Taino males. Maybe it was a patriarchal society power thing or maybe they felt one less future warrier was a better menu item than one less potential wife. It's a bit off topic, though probably not, but the fierceness of the Caribe tribes in Cuba and the relative docility of the Taino tribes in Puerto Rico may explain ( King Ferdinand of Spain, in 1825, outlawed the native concubine practice and ordered all Spaniards in the colonies to marry their native wives - so, the tribal genes, as modern DNA analysis has proven, were passed on to present populations) why the Cubans never buckled under U.S. Imperial domination and my fellow gutless Puerto Ricans did. Perhaps I am judging fellow Puerto Ricans too harshly, since they were wily enough to survive and thrive under the Yankee boot, just as they did under the Spanish boot. The other thing that happened in 1825, that may explain King Ferdinand's getting religion about the "concubines" all of a sudden, is that most of the loyal bootlickers to the Spanish Crown rushed to the Caribbean colonies from South America, which was then in the process of giving Imperial Mother Spain the Bolivarian finger. So, there is that too. Sorry for the digression. Getting back to the root of the suicidal trajectory of Homo sap, I continue to believe that, as soon as the vice of selfishness is institutionalized as a "virtue", it is all destructive downhill thereafter. That is precisely what the Evangelical "Christians" corrupting the USA have done, as this video makes crystal clear. U-tube puts it into the "comedy" category. I classify it as TRUTH. Evangelicals Breaking Up with Jesus 288,114 views•Published on Apr 24, 2019 Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian 93.3K subscribers Please support Betty at: https://www.patreon.com/MrsBettyBowersCategory Comedy
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« Reply #295 on: September 16, 2019, 08:43:29 am »
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www.cbsnews.com - At least five Democratic presidential candidates called for Supreme Court Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh to be impeached after a new report about alleged sexual misconduct from his college years. …
www.nbcnews.com - WASHINGTON — More than 40 people with potential information into the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh have not been contacted by the FBI, according to multi…
www.businessinsider.com - Oil prices surged as much as 20% in opening trading on Monday after a shock attack on Saudi Arabian oil facilities, which Bloomberg said affected almost 6 million barrels, or about 5% of the global m…
nymag.com - The heat and smoke aren’t just coming from Saudi Arabia. On Saturday, still-unconfirmed attacks from a still-unconfirmed assailant caused spectacular fires at two of the country’s most important oil …
www.washingtonpost.com - This Sept. 15, 2019, image provided by the U.S. government and DigitalGlobe and annotated by the source, shows a pre-strike overview at Saudi Aramco's Khurais oil field in Buqyaq, Saudi Arabia. (AP/A…
www.washingtonpost.com - By Christopher Rowland Christopher Rowland Business reporter focused on the health-care economy's effects on patient health, costs, and privacy Email Bio Follow September 15 at 11:21 PM Purdue Pharma…
www.cnbc.com - President Donald Trump said that Justice Brett Kavanaugh should "start suing people" or the Department of Justice "should come to his rescue" on Sunday in response to an article in The New York Times…
theintercept.com - “The president has made clear, he’s happy to take a meeting with no preconditions,” Mnuchin told reporters in the White House briefing room on Monday. “The president’s made it very clear: he is prepa…
unicornriot.ninja - Cape Town, South Africa – In information posted online today, antifascists identified a man named Francois Kemp as the South African point of contact for a shadowy fascist group called ‘The Base.’ Le…
www.nytimes.com - “To have gone from where people didn’t know much about us to where people actively hate us, it’s difficult,” said Chris Harris, who was an agent for 21 years and a Border Patrol union official until …
deepleftfield.info - Not too long ago, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) was the one of the few Republicans who didn’t appear to be utterly subservient to President Donald Trump. Graham often criticized Trump and even warned…
www.nytimes.com - The employee said she had seen Mr. Epstein on two occasions get off the plane last year sometime between June or July and as late as November, once with girls who appeared to be 11 or 12 years old an…
www.tomdispatch.com - Late in his 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump suggested that his future administration would put at least a trillion dollars into America’s worn-out infrastructure. Such funding was obviously …
popularresistance.org - By Margaret Flowers and Kevin Zeese, Popular Resistance. In the past, we have written about the 2020s as a decade when the United States Empire will end. This is based on Alfred McCoy’s predictions (…
www.theguardian.com - The public is providing more than $1m per minute in global farm subsidies, much of which is driving the climate crisis and destruction of wildlife, according to a new report. Just 1% of
www.nytimes.com - It matters because along with entrusting our immigration enforcers to keep us safe, in the president’s often-tweeted phrase, we also entrust them with the responsibility of treating unauthorized immi…
theconversation.com - This story is part of Covering Climate Now, a global collaboration of more than 250 news outlets to strengthen coverage of the climate story. Climate change increasingly threatens communities all ove…
www.washingtonpost.com - By Jackson Diehl Jackson Diehl Deputy editorial page editor and columnist focusing on international affairs Email Bio Follow Deputy Editorial Page Editor September 15 at 7:41 PM For 30 years and more…
www.nytimes.com - “The Handmaid’s Tale” came out near the end of the Cold War, and Atwood has said she was inspired by mid-20th-century works of anti-totalitarian speculative fiction like “1984” and Ray Bradbury’s “Fa…
www.doomsdaymoose.com - Preppers are individuals who, true to their name, like to be prepared for all kinds of emergency scenarios. If you want to live up to your prepper title day in and day out, then you need to make a po…
popularresistance.org - Above photo: United States President Donald Trump appointed Thursday Michael Kozak as Acting Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs | Photo: U.S. Department of State In par …
thegreatrecession.info - Two weeks ago a former Federal Reserve board member and bank president, William Dudley, wrote an editorial that encouraged the Fed use its powers to defeat Donald Trump’s second bid for the US presid…
www.ecowatch.com - Record rainfall and flooding in southeastern Spain killed six people as of Saturday, The New York Times reported. More than 3,000 people had to be rescued from the storm that drenched Murcia, Valenci…
voxpopulisphere.com - Leaving a Misguided War and Choosing Not to Look Back. When the conflict that the Vietnamese refer to as the American War ended in April 1975, I was a U.S. Army captain attending a course at Fort Kno…
Editor's note
The Doomstead Diner is a hub for discussion and information pertaining to the ongoing Economic Collapse of the Industrial Economy. The Diner is the result of many years of discussion and debate on many other forums. At Doomstead Diner, our goal is to collate much of the information we can to assist in planning for the world to come.
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« Reply #296 on: September 16, 2019, 03:48:23 pm »
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« Reply #297 on: September 16, 2019, 04:21:59 pm »
Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter that Kavanaugh’s nomination was “rammed through the Senate” without a proper analysis into the misconduct allegations against him. “Confirmation is not exoneration, and these newest revelations are disturbing,” Warren wrote. “Like the man who appointed him, Kavanaugh should be impeached.” Trump's obvious psychological projection ( it being that he is even more of a criminal sexual abuser and predator than Kavanaugh ever was) aside for a moment, there is that problem of a rather large and influentual fascist enabling cohort in "our" government that routinely blocks any and all efforts to get justice done in the USA. Moscow Mitch, who richly deserves impeachment, AND a long prison sentence as well, is in the 😈 fascist enabler catbird seat to ensure justice is NEVER done. 🤬Then there is 🐍 Mitch's crooked TRAITOROUS wife... Long pitchforks. Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:49 AM 💣 UAW hits GM with nationwide strike Source: CBS News
Detroit — Some 46,000 members of the United Auto Workers went on strike early Monday, walking off General Motors factory floors and setting up picket lines as their midnight strike deadline came and went. Workers shut down 33 manufacturing plants in nine states across the U.S. as well as 22 parts distribution warehouses.
It wasn't clear how long the walkout would last, with the union saying GM has budged little in months of talks while GM said it made substantial offers including higher wages and factory investments. Talks were scheduled to resume at 10 a.m. EDT Monday.
It's the first national strike by the union since a two-day walkout in 2007 that had little impact on the company.
GM workers joined striking Aramark-employed janitors on the picket lines Sunday night at a sprawling factory on the border between Detroit and the small town of Hamtramck.
Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-auto-workers-uaw-general-motors-gm-workers-strike-today-2019-09-16/
Near the bottom of the linked article it says that one of the issues involved is the cost of health insurance policies. Given that, you'd think that the top brass at GM would be all over some form of 'healthcare for all'. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142368091
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« Reply #298 on: September 16, 2019, 05:38:52 pm »
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« Reply #299 on: September 16, 2019, 10:01:42 pm »
Agelbert OBSERVATION: Surly, in this interview with Sam, RE tells the story of the Doomstead Diner, completely leaving my contributions to that forum and blog for nearly five years, out. Considering that I am the one who first brought the Collapse Chronicles dude videos to the attention of the Doomstead Diner, and considering that many views were generated there by my posts, it's rather disappointing. I remember when RE was ready to close up shop in the summer of 2013 from lack of visitors and new members and I helped cheer him up and keep going. I guess he forgot. BUT, there is more. It seems that RE is unaware that you post here, because when he mentioned the Admins posting there, he specificially said that, though K-Dog posts additionally in his own blog, "Surly ONLY posts at the Doomstead Diner". It seems that RE has written me out of his history. Most of the rest of the interview is devoted to RE's views on economics, always leaving Renewable Energy and ethics TOTALLY out of the picture, while harping on the "importance" of hydrocarbons. That is, the "lack" of hydrocarbons is what RE continues to, erroneously, IMHO, believe will cause the "collapse" (that never seems to come). I'm surprised he didn't launch into the old "high energy density" happy talk so favored by all hydrocarbon based energy WORSHIPPERS. Although I am quite familiar with RE's arguments, listening to this interview I confirmed much about RE's world view that I had previously only suspected. I know RE is your friend, Surly, so I will not share with you what I think of RE's, "without oil, civilization will collapse and most of us are all gonna die" pitch, never mind his selective memory. Of course RE is spot on about Trump. 👍 Finally, I will always be grateful to RE for setting up this forum and suggesting the "Renewable Revolution" name for it. 👍 That said, the interview cleared up any lingering doubts about the wisdom of my decision to stop posting at the Doomstead Diner. Doomstead Diner's "RE": "I Cannot See How This Monetary System Can Survive More Than Ten Years" 1,084 views•Published on Sep 15, 2019 Collapse Chronicles 3.05K subscribers In this week's edition of the Collapse Chronicles Conversation, I have the pleasure and honor of speaking with Doomstead Diner's head cook and bottle washer, the enigmatic "RE." Here is a link to Doomstead Diner: http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/blog/If you would like to support Collapse Chronicles, there are several ways to do just that. You can hit the Paypal Donate icon on the homepage, or send a Paypal donation through collapsechronicles@gmail.com If you would like to become a Patron of Collapse Chronicles, here is a link to my Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=16077447If you would like to send a check or money order to support this channel, you can email me at collapsechronicles@gmail.com. Thank you! Category News & Politics
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