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Retired Turkish spy claims he warned CIA about 9/11 attacks 40 days in advance


www.dailysabah.com - The founder of the counter-terrorism department of Turkey's National Intelligence Organization (MIT) has claimed in his new book that he warned U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) about the Sept. …
https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2019/06/14/retired-turkish-spy-claims-he-warned-cia-about-911-attacks-40-days-in-advance

🤔 Hmmmmm. This looks like a limited hang out by the CIA, it being that the Engineers for 9/11 Truth have been carefully and systematically shredding the WTC 7 "collapse" baloney pushed by NIST. As the CIA has done since 9/11, this appears to be still another attempt to keep the horrible truth about M.I.C. responsiblity for the planning of 9/11, the execution of 9/11, and the subsequent active and continuous cover up of the truth about 9/11 suppressed.

There are two "tells" in the article that point to deliberate disinformation about both 9/11 and the criminal perpetrators of 9/11. The first one is the assumption that al-Qaida terrorists did it:
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"... was informed of the attack staged by al-Qaida terrorists through a source he reveals as a Turkish drug dealer called Mustafa."
These people know how to use words to twist the truth all out of proportion. Of particular interest is the clever inclusion of the word, "staged". YES, 9/11 was staged. False Flags are always staged. But, they want you to MISassociate the word, "staged" so the term, "False Flag" does not come to mind. They want you to think "al-Qaida", not "U.S. Government False Flag", when you read the word,"staged". In order to achieve this perfidy, the sentence is formulated to point people in exactly the wrong direction, but they don't stop there.

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If you want to read a book that carefully and methodically exposes the truth of 9/11, I recommend "9/11 Unmasked".

The 9-11 attack ranks right up there with the right wing coup fomented by the assassins of JFK as part of the most elaborate-- and successful-- disinformation campaigns the CIA has ever run.

Now y0u can't even question 9-11 without people rolling their eyes and making finger circles at the temples.

Face it: the bad guys have won. Again.Dispiriting as hell.

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The 9-11 attack ranks right up there with the right wing coup fomented by the assassins of JFK as part of the most elaborate-- and successful-- disinformation campaigns the CIA has ever run.

Most people in the USA believe JFK was assassinated by elements within the U.S. Government. That is the truth. The fact that the CIA and the State Department and the Pentagon use our tax dollars to fund troll farms to ridicule and attack those that expose the truth, and the fact that the MSM parrots all the CIA bullshit does not mean they have been successful. Overwhelming Public opinion evidences that they have failed.

By the way, Trump was spouting the "high heat from burning jet fuel melted the WTC steel" (a physical IMPOSSIBILITY) government propaganda narrative right from the start:

Although the WTC fires, based on ordinary building fires, could not have produced temperatures above 1,800°, the U.S. Government claims the fires inexplicably melted metals with much higher melting points, such as iron (2,800°) and even molybdenum (4,753°)

Today, Trump is trying to use 9/11 to sell the Wag the Dog Brooklyn Bridge to the American Public all over again.

Mon, 06/17/2019 - 13:25


He knows, alright. He knows the M.I.C. did 9/11. But, he will now push the "9/11 ink to Iran" ridiculous baloney 24/7. I don't think it is going to work. Perhaps I am wrong, but I simply cannot believe the American Public is so naive and so stupid and so self destructive as to fall for this Trump bullshit.     

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Now you can't even question 9-11 without people rolling their eyes and making finger circles at the temples.

Sure, the 🦖 MKing's of this world are the first to make said finger circles. You can read paid idiots like 🦕 Palloy ridicule reality in regard to 9/11 and paid ass-holes like 🐍 Snowleopard deny Global Warming with bullshit about a "new ice age", but you need to get out more if all you are seeing is eye rolling. Do you remember that other troll at the Doomstead Diner that I exposed? I forget his name, but he was pushing the deliberate straw man about "holographic aircraft" and "lazer weapons" WTC destruction. Nobody said to challenge these bold faced liars posing as defenders of truth but me. I was very frustrated by this and said so. RE did NADA to stop this heinous disinformation based on his rather selective concept of "freedom of speech". RE was johnny-on the-spot when it came to shutting me down in verbal altercations with just about ANYBODY, while tiptoeing about censoring admins like the mad dentist. I know, Surly, that you always try to set truth with evidence of truth as the standard for posting at the Doomstead Diner, but I honestly believe most posters there are enemies of the truth who will go out of their way to suppress it through mockingly dismissive disdain, ridicule or, when that doesn't "work", vitriol.     

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Face it: the bad guys have won. Again. Dispiriting as hell.

Those fools and knaves, no matter what the MSM would have you believe, represent a small miinority of the U.S. population. While it is true that the M.I.C. is filled with them, that does NOT ensure that they have "won" anything but the inevitable demise of our country from within (SEE: Pyrrhic Victory). They have LOST the credibility they require to govern.So, while they still have the power to wreak fascist (False Flag War with Iran) havoc, doing so is a suicidal move by them.

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Doomstead Diner Daily 6/18
« Reply #107 on: June 18, 2019, 06:10:10 am »

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« Reply #108 on: June 18, 2019, 06:11:38 am »

Those fools and knaves, no matter what the MSM would have you believe, represent a small miinority of the U.S. population. While it is true that the M.I.C. is filled with them, that does NOT ensure that they have "won" anything but the inevitable demise of our country from within (SEE: Pyrrhic Victory). They have LOST the credibility they require to govern.So, while they still have the power to wreak fascist (False Flag War with Iran) havoc, doing so is a suicidal move by them.

I have more to say on this, but have to be off early this Am, and hope to return to this thread!

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Doomstead Diner Daily 6/19
« Reply #109 on: June 19, 2019, 07:43:41 am »

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Though Attorney William Burck may certainly be knowledgeable of Trump's money laundering and real estate criminal fun and games with the Russian oligarchs, there is someone far more knowledgeable of, AND also an accessory to, Trump's greatest crime against, not just the USA, but all of humanity. 


😈 Carter Page is the guy that brokered the deal between 🦖 Putin and Trump & Hydrocarbon Hellspawn pals in the U.S. to buy a large portion of a Russian Oil Corporation planning to get at the CH4 and oil "bonanza" under the polar ice cap (once it melts, of course, - so, Trump subsequently has done all he can to help THAT along).


Scheming to profit from the melting of the polar ice cap is Trump's biggest crime.
That's why the U.S. Congress and the 👹 MSM have relegated Carter Page to "dumb nothing burger" status (SEE: Orwell).


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Robert Reich: America is More Radical Than You Think
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« Reply #113 on: June 20, 2019, 07:26:12 am »

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« Reply #114 on: June 20, 2019, 01:47:18 pm »
Nice roundup of what is going on out there.

I continue to be amazed at how amazed scientists are at the fact that their Global Warming Predictons were based on overly optimistic happy talk from the start.  >:(

In less than a decade from now, when the permafrost is toast and the CH4 is bursting forth massively, they will probably finally admit that their "worst case 'Business as Usual' RCP 8.5  Scenario" is "more conservative than the Global Warming observational reality".



I wish I could just yawn at that nauseatingly predictable saber rattling for the Wag the Dog War with Iran, but I can't. I am praying daily to the Lord Jesus Christ that these M.I.C. knaves fail in this unethical, underhanded, heinous and 100% EVIL endeavor.

As to that Neanderthal DNA in certain humans, I think they are on to us, Surly. 😀

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Wildfires rage near Siberia's "mouth of hell" — a giant depression that's getting bigger due to global warming - ImaGeo

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« Reply #116 on: June 21, 2019, 11:33:34 am »

I continue to be amazed at how amazed scientists are at the fact that their Global Warming Predictons were based on overly optimistic happy talk from the start. 

In less than a decade from now, when the permafrost is toast and the CH4 is bursting forth massively, they will probably finally admit that their "worst case 'Business as Usual' RCP 8.5  Scenario" is "more conservative than the Global Warming observational reality".

No, they'll probably tune up with a chorus of, "Why Didn't Anyone Tell Us" when many of us, especially you,  have been jumping up and down about it for years.


I wish I could just yawn at that nauseatingly predictable saber rattling for the Wag the Dog War with Iran, but I can't. I am praying daily to the Lord Jesus Christ that these M.I.C. knaves fail in this unethical, underhanded, heinous and 100% EVIL endeavor.

As to that Neanderthal DNA in certain humans, I think they are on to us, Surly. 😀


Watch Pud strut around today proud as hell for calling off a revenge strike on Iran. That alone should be worth a Nobel Peace Prize, right, AG?

In terms of the Neanderthal DNA, guilty as charged, I guess. When you read the article you find that the place in the DNA they find this stuff is very ancient. I find these discoveries fascinating.

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« Reply #117 on: June 21, 2019, 12:30:33 pm »

I continue to be amazed at how amazed scientists are at the fact that their Global Warming Predictons were based on overly optimistic happy talk from the start. 

In less than a decade from now, when the permafrost is toast and the CH4 is bursting forth massively, they will probably finally admit that their "worst case 'Business as Usual' RCP 8.5  Scenario" is "more conservative than the Global Warming observational reality".

No, they'll probably tune up with a chorus of, "Why Didn't Anyone Tell Us" when many of us, especially you,  have been jumping up and down about it for years.



I wish I could just yawn at that nauseatingly predictable saber rattling for the Wag the Dog War with Iran, but I can't. I am praying daily to the Lord Jesus Christ that these M.I.C. knaves fail in this unethical, underhanded, heinous and 100% EVIL endeavor.

As to that Neanderthal DNA in certain humans, I think they are on to us, Surly. 😀


Watch Pud strut around today proud as hell for calling off a revenge strike on Iran. That alone should be worth a Nobel Peace Prize, right, AG?

In terms of the Neanderthal DNA, guilty as charged, I guess. When you read the article you find that the place in the DNA they find this stuff is very ancient. I find these discoveries fascinating.


 

I learned the following nugget (See Augustine quote below) of info from Christian Pastor (Rober W. Reed 👍) who is doing an excellent job of exposing what war is really all about and, more significantly, explains why a true Christian cannot engage in, or support, war in any way, shape or form. He states, while including overwhelming historical evidence to back him up, that the USA has not ever been a Christian country. I agree.

This quote probably should be in the thread under the (oxymoron) title of "Just War Doctrine":

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« Reply #118 on: June 22, 2019, 07:37:57 am »

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Snowden Documents Reveal Scope of Secrets Exposed to China in 2001 Spy Plane Incident

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In Guantánamo Case, U.S. Government Says It Can Indefinitely Detain Anyone — Even U.S. Citizens

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'Are u up?': Texts show cozy relationship between Paul Manafort and Sean Hannity

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"Hardhats vs. Hippies": How the Media Misrepresents the Debate Over the Green New Deal

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Amid Skyrocketing Insulin Prices, Americans Head to Canada

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I wish Elizabeth Warren well in her effort to ban private prisons in Merika. She has a VERY uphill battle on her hands. The problem is so fundamentally intractable that, though it may get her some votes and perhaps the top dog Democratic Presidential Candidate position, the, mostly invisible, VAST pecuniary benefits that some very influential corporate crooks get from these prisons makes only token reforms possible.

WHY? Outside the fact that our entire juridical system is formulated to exploit the poor and simultaneously let the rich get away with just about any crime (i.e. Even if all prisons are Federal and State run, the courts will still unjustly punish the poor and reward the rich), there are at least four giant hurdles that are rather difficult to overcome.

1. To begin with, the Private Prison system is a CAPITALIST venture. You need to address the evils of CAPITALISM to understand why Private Prisons are so damaging to our society. Don't hold your breath waiting for her to criticize CAPITALISM. She has often stated that she is a Capitalist. She thinks she can define Capitalism into something benign by adding pejorative adjectives to it like "Crony" or "Corporate". That is wishful thinking.
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2. Prisons provide jobs to white Merika that these towns hither and yon do not want to let go of, especially because the people exploited and abused by this cruel system are the poor.

3. New drugs, though you'll never get our Fascist Courts to address this evil, are routinely tested on prisoners. The effect can be determined simply because the prisoners are captive test subjects (i.e. prisoners can be observed 24/7, food type and intake is known, environment is controlled for years, etc.) that can inform our ethically challenged pharmaceutical giants on marketing decisions (before they buy the FDA to rubber stamp the drugs, of course). Pharmaceutical Corporation profits represent a significant chunk of the U.S. GDP. Good luck messing with their bread and butter surreptitious human experimentation for drug profit.

4. Prison SLAVERY is protected by the U.S. Constitution. Benign Slavery is an oxymoron.

The bottom line here is that our country champions the profit motive. IOW, the main religion here is CAPITALISM. Taking on a significant piece of the "Greed Is Good" pie that exploits the poorest whites, along with a disproportionately large portion of poor minorities, is Capitalist sacrllege.

Yes, you can, and should, do it in good conscience. However, if you do not attack it at its "Greed Is Good" root, you are not going to succeed. Still, I'm glad Elizabeth Warren is attempting to reform that travesty of justice.
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