Renewable Revolution

Quote from: agelbert on September 29, 2016, 07:00:59 pm

For those who labor under the view that the reversal of fortunes for Renewable Energy in the early 1980s was just ignorance, supply and demand and big oil wasn't INSTRUMENTAL in bringing it about.

Oh, and about NON-HYDRO renewable energy being THROTTLED shortly after the technology was proven competitive with fossil fuels. You mean you DIDN"T KNOW there was SIGNIFICANT PROMISING  RENEWABLE ENERGY NON-HYDRO COST COMPETITIVE TECHNOLOGY BEFORE 1980?

I understand that the media BURIED the FACT that IT HAPPENED TO WIND TURBINE TECHNOLOGY shortly after 1980 when Carter left office!

Maybe I missed a class, AG, but I thought it was pretty clear that Reagan tilted US energy policy firmly towards oil within 30 seconds of taking office. I particularly remember the celebrated removal of the solar panels from the White House. A symbolic act if ever there was one.

Most people still take the knee at an image of St. Reagan, whereas I've seen him as a fraud and charlatan since he was elected. But then I've been out of step with this culture since 1979.

Agreed. However, the push back from the fossil Fuel Industry actually began during the Carter Administration, as the NASA documents evidence. Reagan was a tool, as well as a dangerous fool.

Most people still take the knee at an image of St. Reagan, whereas I've seen him as a fraud and charlatan since he was elected. But then I've been out of step with this culture since 1979.

Russians think Stalin was a great man now, in large part, even though he killed 60 million people. Go figure. History is written by the victors ignorant-ass survivors.

Reagan did much to put us in the **** we're in today, as far as the US economy. Bush Jr. put us where we are in terms of war and the bankruptcy that goes with that. Whatever blame Obama deserves (which is not zero), he didn't set the wheels in motion on any of it.

While it is true that the historical narrative is routinely distorted to sanitize the mens rea reality behind empathy deficit disordered national actions on behalf of a greedy, corrupt and murderous elite, more and more people today understand that the happy talk and flag waving bullshit is just that.

For example, the role the U.S. played in doing absolutely everything possible to destroy Russia from the moment it attempted (but failed miserably, thanks to U.S. efforts) to embrace socialism, is documented. These efforts, to a significant degree (that you refuse to recognize), polarized the Russians into a paranoid dictatorship which wreaked havoc on its citizens.

Would Stalin have been as ruthless if WE had treated Russia with respect and not tried to undermine them at every turn? I doubt it.

As to the "victors" writing history, there will be no victors in a polluted and dying biosphere, regardless of the happy talk and other assorted myth making by mendacious and duplicitous historians.