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I wonder what corrections, adjustments, extrapolations, interpolations and correlations were used on what original temperature data to create the cool graphic?

Well, considering the fact that you are a word twisting propagandist out to justify the use of fossil fuels come hell or high water, I don't wonder that you will engage in every hair splitting excuse you can think of to question reality. The answer to your futile, but clever, exercise in hairsplitting was partially provided at the link to Thom Hartmann's article. But, as usual, you prefer to snipe than to study.


YOU, the alleged "expert" in supply and demand for fossil fuels, continue to ignore the FACT that, at present, the world is producing over 1,000,000 bpd MORE than it uses. YET, you have the brass balls, or simply world class ignorance, to claim the recent rise in the price of crude is "based on fundamentals", instead of the commodities futures speculation CRAP that is ACTUALLY making the price artificially go up.

But hey, congratulations are in order to your welfare queen fossil fuel and nuclear pals. Just like YOU, they can't make any money without stealing money from we-the-people, so the fossil fuel OWNED politicians just rode in to BAIL DIRTY ENERGY ASSES OUT AGAIN.

Happy day for MKing 
and his biosphere math challenged, empathy deficit disordered pals!

05/16/2016 04:03 PM   

Fossil-Heavy Energy & Water Appropriations Bill Passes Senate
SustainableBusiness.com News

Last week, the US Senate passed the first appropriations bill for the 2017 budget, funding energy and water programs with $37.5 billion.

We're surprised that it passed 90-8, given that it clearly prioritizes fossil and nuclear energy over renewables. President Obama threatens to veto it for that reason. Where are the Democrats on this? ? ? ?

$9.3 billion of the $37.5 billion total is for nuclear weapons programs. $808 million is cut from the non-defense side of the Department of Energy, while the nuclear side gets $355 million more to "ensure nuclear stockpile readiness."

The White House says, "The bill "fails to put us on an achievable path toward doubling clean energy research and development by FY2021. Specifically, the Administration objects to the low funding levels provided for the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E) and the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE)."   

"Funding at this level also would impede development of solutions to reduce U.S. dependence on oil and reduce energy waste, and undermine the Nation's competitiveness in the future global clean energy economy," the White House continues. 

Exactly What's Intended

Rep. Mike Simpson (R-ID) says the bill prioritizes defense, nuclear weapons priorities and fossil fuel R&D, while reining in President Obama's out-of-bounds renewable energy agenda.

It "rebalances the portfolio to provide a true all-of-the-above strategy. It includes strong funding for nuclear energy, providing research and development to ensure a safe, efficient, reliable nuclear fleet, and laying the foundation for the next generation of nuclear reactors.   

 "It puts more money into fossil fuel  energy and less into renewables  , to ensure the nation is utilizing its abundant fossil energy resources as efficiently and safely as possible, he says." 

The one thing Democrats didn't budge on was the attempt to undercut EPA's Waters of the US rule  by eliminating its funding. ::)  It restores protection for two million miles of streams and 20 million acres of wetlands, allowing it to safeguard drinking water supplies for a third of Americans, and for ecosystems. Calling it "massive overreach, it is currently on hold by a federal court. 

They also voted down an amendment from Sen. Dan Coats (R-IN) to wind down the Energy Department's Advanced Vehicle Manufacturing Loan program.

Rep. Nita Lowey (D-NY) says, "We cannot afford to bury our heads in the sand on climate change. And yet, the energy efficiency and renewable energy account would be funded at $248 million below the president's request. An annual appropriations bill is not the place to amend or significantly change the Clean Water Act or restrict gun laws. These efforts year after year imperil the appropriations process.   

Some Details   

Compared to Obama's 2017 budget, ARPA-E gets 16% less and EERE gets a 26% cut for renewable energy, 27% less for sustainable transportation and 20% less for energy efficiency. 

Obama's budget doubles funding for clean energy R&D, as 20 nations promised to do under Mission Innovation at the Paris Climate Summit. And it includes the nation's first carbon tax, which would fund a 21st century low-carbon transportation system.

Read our article, What's In Obama's 2017 Budget: Energy & Environment, called "dead on arrival" by the Congressional majority    .

On the positive side, Obama supports the bill's investments in restoring aquatic ecosystems and helping communities reduce the risk of floods - improving resilience against climate impacts. It meets his budget request for restoration of the Louisiana Coastal Area Ecosystem, Columbia River, South Florida Ecosystem, and Missouri River Fish and Wildlife Recovery.

The bill now goes to the House for a vote. 

Read the White House statement on the appropriations bill:
Website: www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/114/saphr2028s_20160420.pdf


Agelbert NOTE: You may THINK you have won, MKing. But, as usual, you have cognitive problems with cause and effect.

You see, the fossil fuel government in the USA is NOT going to keep your precious welfare queen fossil fuel industry from going the way of the dodo bird. Sure, you have obtained your typical reprieve on we-the-people's money in the USA.

But you neglect the FACT, one that you have been eyeing over the past decade and not said SH IT about in this forum, that fossil fuels have been steadily losing energy market share, NOT because of any renewable energy subsidy, but because they have ZERO fuel costs. Once the Renewable energy infrastructure is installed (which gets cheaper every year to manufacture and install), fossil fuels simply cannot compete with ZERO clean energy fuel costs.

YOU said, a couple of days ago (and you repeat that wishful thinking frequently), that the fossil fuel industry would recover when the price comes back up, as it did in the 1980's. The problem with that thinking is that Dirty energy does not have a snowball's chance in hell of recovering it's lost energy market share from a 70 to 1 Renewable to fossil fuel new generation installation rate.

This is not the 1980's, when the available renewable energy (apart from hydro) was a drop in the energy market share bucket compared to fossil fuels and nuclear power. But you desperately want to believe it is.   

The ONLY common thread between the 1980's and now is the WELFARE QUEEN SWAG coming from the U.S. Government. You irresponsible CROOKS talk about "responsibility" in business practices when you get babied six ways from Sunday every time you get you ass in a debt crack. HYPOCRITES! LIARS! CHEATS!   

Now that my rant is over  ;D, this the message you may continue to try to deny with your wishful thinking, Mr. Supply and Demand Math Challenged Fossil Fuel Fascist:

No matter how much welfare queen swag you get from the fossil fuel government and no matter how much your bought and paid for politicians try to strange Renewable Energy by killing subsidies and inventing rules, regulations and laws, like you did in the 1980's, there is NO WAY that the fossil fuel industry will EVER be able to recapture their lost energy use market share in ANY of the high Renewable Energy percentage countries like Scotland (and Portugal and Costa Rica and Spain and the Netherlands and Sweden and Norway and Germany - and so one, etc.).

No matter how many politicians the fossil fuel fascists BUY to make fossil fuels artificially cheap through hidden and not so hidden "subsidies" (free passes on pollution and government money coerced from we-the-people), the fossil fuel industry simply cannot compete with Renewable Energy.

And smart people in the USA, England, France, Australia, south Africa, Italy, Japan (and so on - you get the idea) are certainly NOT going to go back to fossil fuels with a ZERO fuel cost on their current Renewable energy Infrastructure (which gets cheaper to manufacture and install every year). Even the "natural" gas fired power plants used for peak power grid demand balancing that now use Fracked gas can be run from TRULY NATURAL gas produced from methane harvesters on cattle and pig farms in these countries. Germany is already doing quite a bit of animal based methane harvesting with a nice side benefit that pumps out a NON-fossil fuel based NATURAL fertilizer product added profit stream.  ;D

Continually shrinking market share is a death sentence for an energy producer. That is why the fossil fuel industry is doomed to shrink into bankrupt welfare queen, has been irrelevance.           

Anybody that thinks we are in a repeat of the 1980's doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2016, 07:55:27 pm by AGelbert »
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