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Fossil Fuel Skulldugggery
« on: July 23, 2014, 12:17:34 am »
Yes, I know that of course, our dear democratic, never start a war, goody two shoes fossil fuel/bank oligarchy would NEVER THINK OF SUCH A THING but it is INTERESTING that DENMARK has this GOING FOR THEM (or is it going AGAINST THEM because it "upsets" some powerful fossil fuelers in the USA?).

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WWF, the global conservation organization, is applauding the Danish government for having set the most ambitious climate and renewable energy targets of any country in combination with a long track record of publically promoting and implementing clean and sustainable energies.


http://awsassets.wwfdk.panda.org/downloads/fact_sheet__gift_to_the_earth__international_media_1_1.pdf

The attack Thursday afternoon on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 killed 298 people from nearly a dozen nations — including vacationers, students and a large contingent of scientists heading to an AIDS conference in Australia. At least 189 of the dead were from the Netherlands.
And now add to the above these "STRANGE"  COINCIDENCES...

Post Scriptum: Strange Coincidences? Moscow Metro Tragedy and Malaysian Airliner MH17 Downing

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We have just experienced two terrible tragedies. The Moscow Metro tragedy that claimed the lives of 23 people with dozens of wounded happened on the very same day Russian President Vladimir Putin was in Brazil, participating in the formation of the BRICS Bank. The Malaysian airliner MH17 tragic downing in eastern Ukraine, with almost 300 dead, happened at the same exact time Vladimir Putin was flying back home.

As I explained before, and will continue explaining in the following piece: the dollar hegemony has effectively ended, the US has just lost it’s single super-power status. And Putin was the driving force behind all this.

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/post-scriptum-strange-coincidences-moscow-metro-tragedy-and-malaysian-airliner-mh17-downing/

Yes, of course! It's all EMPTY suppositions and baseless speculation from NON experts. 

USA = 

Fossil fuel/Banking oligarchy =

USA is run by GUESS WHO!!?

When terrorism is STATE SPONSORED, it's not terrorism; it's a warning by a ruthless predator.

Fasten your seat belts, folks. Denmark might be a pushover but Russia (with BRICs bank backing)  isn't. 



Finally, there is another grizzly "DOT"  :o you may wish to connect at your leisure...

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This is the second Malaysian airliner falling from the sky/disappearing in a short time.

The first one was the one that ‘allegedly’ disappeared in Asia several months ago.

Coincidence? Perhaps not, if we recall that Kuala Lumpur, the capital of Malaysia, recently hosted International War Crimes Tribunal that indicted the states of the USA and Israel for war crimes. This same international tribunal also indicted both countries’ heads of state, along with many high level officials.

People involved in that tribunal were the likes of Leuren Moret and Alfred Lambremont Webre. Considering that the evidence presented at the tribunal was damning and officials named were the very top of the US and Israel, do you think that maybe, just maybe, someone has a score to settle with Malaysia?  

Incidentally, per expert Leuren Moret, the founder of Malaysia Airlines (who treated the airline as his baby, his pride and joy) is the former PM of Malaysia, who was an active part of the tribunal.  Add to the above a personal vendetta, and a warning.  >:(

Last, but not least: 13 years ago, in 2001, a Ukraine missile shot down another plane over the Black Sea. It was a commercial jet from the Russian Sibir airline, en route to Turkey. Over 80 people died. The investigation revealed that the military was poorly trained and shot down the plane by mistake. However, the investigation was never completed, and Ukraine never admitted its responsibility. At the time, there supposedly was no war in Ukraine.
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Re: Fossil Fuel Skulldugggery
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2014, 01:41:33 pm »
FL ML17: did you know that the vast field of smoking carnage may actually be a “tiny roadside crash site”? Read on.

Posted on July 21, 2014 by Ann Kreilkamp

As the theories and rumors continue to swirl in the jittery ethers, this is the most interesting piece of possible info I’ve yet come across. And yes, it does remind of Flight 93 (Pennsylvania, in a field, 9/11, remember?) — except this time, they decided to add carnage and twisted metal to the mix, rather than just stage a depression in a field with NO plane parts, no bodies . . .

In any case, this latest false flag/distraction — (from the GAZA genocide, from the BRICs devlopment bank, from ongoing climate catastrophes, like stupendous fires in western U.S.. Canada and Siberia) — that also serves to demonize Putin and, in a one/two punch, parallels the (staged?) child trafficking story on the U.S. border — does seem to be working!


Even if we ignore in disgust the controlled narrative delivered by the lock-step statist MSM, we’re all mesmerized by “what really happened to Flight ML 17,” and of course, its relationship, if any to Flight ML 370, the last (downed?) flight to capture us, and that went on for months!

We no longer have months to dither. We need to get cracking NOW. Or is it too late? As one commentator said about one of the many latest posts that point towards inevitable global destruction: “This used to be a call to action. Now it’s an interesting data point on the way to extinction.”


Yep. Whether “Sheeple,” or “Awake,” we’re magnetized by FL ML 17.  ;)

http://exopermaculture.com/2014/07/21/fl-ml17-did-you-know-that-the-vast-field-of-smoking-carnage-may-actually-be-a-tiny-roadside-crash-site-read-on/

P.S.: The Corbett Report has a good “open source investigation.”

Via Bill.
Flight MH 17′s Tiny Roadside Crash Site (IMAGES)
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/flight-mh17s-tiny-roadside-crash-site-images/#more-30613

Now WHERE have we seen such UNDAMAGED passports after an airliner was TOTALLY DESTROYED before?                   ???                          





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Re: Fossil Fuel Skulldugggery
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2014, 12:25:34 am »
UPDATED MH17 Downing background Context and Cause Hypothesis by Agelbert
(several typos fixed too!  ;D)

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I do think most armies would have radar systems that were sophisticated enough to tell the difference furthermore I think it is quite likely the intelligence of most nations could track the movements of the head of state particularly if they were in a state of semi-war with the said nation. I feel whatever happened it is likely this plane was shot down intentionally and it is just a question of figuring out what the motive behind the attack was.


As a former air traffic controller I can tell you EXACTLY how the big ones paint on the screen of RAW radar versus the small ones. Now, of course, most airliners have mode S transponders. That means they CAN'T TURN OFF THE ALTITUDE READOUT along with the ground speed and aircraft ID like they used to be able to do before Mode S. Of course Putin's plane is going to stand out like a sore thumb versus a civilian airliner for reasons I won't go into.  8)

My theory is that Samantha Power and her war loving neocon friends are delivering a message (on behalf of the "DEFEND THE DOLLAR AT ALL COSTS" fossil fuel/bank oligarchy) to ANYONE planning to join the BRIC plan to **** can the almighty dollar as the reserve currency.

As JD pointed out in so many words,  ;D , I have a tremendous capacity for the obvious. 

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How could the MH-17 crew have known there was an aircraft approaching from underneath unless ATC told them it was there?  I know that large aircraft have a radar in their nose to see out into the dark and avoid objects in front of them.  I know this because I got to ride in the jump seat of an MD-80 that belonged to the US GOV and that little radar screen was right in the middle of their instrument panel.  Also, what is the flight data recorder going to tell the investigators other than everything went to **** in a hurry?

My understanding of what you have said on this topic is that Kiev ATC knew which aircraft was which and that the question now is who authorized the attack and what was used?   R-60 (I think that is the AA-12) missile from an SU-25 or the ground based SA-11?  The fact that the MH-17 was rerouted and told to descend to 31,000 feet suggests that there intention was to line them up for a kill by the SU-25.

Now, if, we were all so lucky that identifiable missile parts were recovered at the crash site, then one would have their answer.  As to who ordered it, the government in Kiev is on the hook regardless as the "separatists" don't have any aircraft and don't have a radar unit to support the SA-11 missile.  Since Moscow is off the hook, there are fewer people to blame...

Okay, let's take it from the top.

1) Yeah a Malaysian Airliner with a bunch of people in it was shot down. What do inquiring minds with a lick of sense do first?

2) DUH, there is war going on in Ukraine, right?  ::) RIGHT! And the US fascist proxies that STARTED that war have ZERO communication (i.e. command and control instructions) with DA BOYZ in our "intelligence" neocon network, right? WRONG! Rest assured that 24/7, both Russian and US ASSETS are TASKED with FULL chain of command 24/7 consultation and weapons inventory condition (position at x, y, z locations, etc. and READY OR NOT for release as well as capabilities). Fog of war, my ass! This is BASIC **** in a proxy war with the PRESENT SURVEILLANCE capabilities of both (except ours are better than Russia's) countries.

I had to make flip/strip chart maps a pilot strapped to his knee for fighter and bomber pilots flying into a war zone (Viet Nam) to deliver ordinance. I had to mark all the missile sites, triple A (Anti Aircraft Artillery), troop concentrations as well as radar signatures (the shape they form on SLIR, FLIR and or plain radar) of populated/industrial targets for ease of id and destruction.

I DID THIS from satellite and drone RECON (Yeah ,we HAD those in Viet Nam - they were carried on B-52s, dropped and flown around by RC, flown out and then recovered with lots of good photos  ). I had to go over them on "Light" tables with stereo goggles running two rolls of negatives. I could SEE the ground in 3D and I had a neato little device that looks like a jewelers eye piece with measurement line references inscribed on them. I could measure anything down there within one foot (wing spans, fuel tanks, missiles, artillery, buildings, etc.).

I could, since I knew the Lat Long and exact time the photos were taken, measure a building shadow and know the height of said building, bridge or whatever. WE KNEW from day to day WTF was going on down there over 50 years ago!

We KNOW EXACTLY what is going on in places like the Ukraine with FAR MORE PRECISION NOW, PERIOD. And our GOONS have a LOVE affair with the fascists there going. They get MONEY from us to DESTABILIZE the country to keep Russia on the defensive. That's the overall SCORE. Anybody claiming otherwise is FULL OF ****. Russia is no saint but they aren't deliberately fomenting a revolution in MEXICO to install a government HOSTILE to the USA. And **** anybody that claims the analogy doesn't hold. It does.

3) When a deliberate confrontation such as the Ukraine is executed, mistakes are made, of course. But the overall plan is run through thousands of computer simulations with variables inputted along the way. The results that give the right plausible deniability and further our predatory "destroy Russia because they don't want to kiss our ass" policy are "gamed". ALL THIS HAPPENS BEFORE the top dogs HERE even START to generate a "colored" revolution in the Ukraine. Get it? YEARS ago this was gamed. The airliner was PART of that "simulation". It's an excellent flash point to get people to LOOK in the "right" direction for the goal here. The computer said all the destabilizing stuff would work. Now people blogging here can hem an haw about what the agenda is (**** BRIC or not, **** Putin or not, CNN credibility or not, fog of war or not, SAVE fossil fueldom or not by wasting people form a nation leading in renewable energy or not, Pay Back or not for the FOUNDER of Malayasian Airlines having participated on the war crimes tribunal that found the USA and Israeli TOP LEADERS guilty or a combination of the above) but the downing of the airliner WAS NOT A MISTAKE.

4) WHY? Because of the CONTEXT. This destabilization was planned, as was the Syrian destabilization. The Syrian destabilization was stymied. WHY? They asked the computer. BECAUSE, the elements that WERE present in operations like 9/11 were ABSENT in Syria (destroyed airliner - works every time - claims the computer...). Plausible deniability can be engendered by emulating the Korean Airlines operation (except our goons have to shoot it down this time rather than suckering Russia into downing it - they won't fall for it because their radar is far too accurate to mistake an airliner for a bomber or combat aircraft, PERIOD).

5) SO, they watched as the Ukrainian operation started to peter out. They asked for a GO on  operation down a big bird to keep the operation from being stymied like Syria. They provided a list of airlines that flew the route and the top ones on the **** list (Malaysian for BRIC support and War Crimes Tribunal - A TWO-FER bit of payback!).

6) The top dogs made a list ditch effort to stop the new currency effort with a few veiled threats made privately to Putin. Putin gave them the finger. The operation was approved. The rest is history.

7) Putin knows the score. He does not want WWIII. WE are the crazy uncle here, not Russia. WE  WANT WWIII, no matter the COST! Don't believe me? Reagan said, after watching the movie "The Day After" that the military assured him we could win the war with only 150 million American casualties. He wrote in his diary that "Those people are CRAZY". GUESS WHO "those people " WERE/ARE? Yep, their representatives are STILL THERE.

8) Now I don't care if you think our country is rational and reasonable. You are just plain wrong. So, how could these "crazies" be so calculating, analytical and careful to do this "flawless" demonizing of Russia for allegedly downing a Malaysia Airliner? Doesn't a crazy psycho make mistakes in the "fog" of war? Actually, they don't. WHY? because they PLAN this ****.

9) It will get worse after a brief pause to see how many more cowards they have gotten to tow the fossil fuel/bank oligarchy running the USA and SOME of Europe. The target is RUSSIA BECAUSE they are HURTING the DOLLAR. That is not going to change any time soon. That is the correct context. Several years into the future, thousands of scenarios are IN THE CAN, including nuclear winter. Our goons WILL NOT accept the defeat that comes with a multi-polar, renewable energy, more democratic world with no mad dog USA ****ting wherever and whenever we like. That ends my rant on context. Now for the Down a Big Bird Operation hypothesis (I hope this isn't a "Three Days of the Condor" thing because this may be my last post if I got it exactly right...).



10) CAS is Collision Avoidance Radar. All airliners have it.  Also all air traffic control systems have a program called Conflict Alert. It blinks the data blocks of two targets that will have less than minimum separation standards with AMPLE TIME (a few minutes or so) for the air traffic controller to warn at least one of the aircraft. On board the aircraft CAS goes off and collision avoidance instructions are shouted at the crew. BUT, an airliner cannot escape a missile. The aircraft has just nose radar BUT it has a data link to atc radar and CAN receive conflict alert data to activate CAS (aircraft overtaking or in conflict  due to projected crossing trajectories by heading or altitude).


11) Missile targeting: There are several ways to do this. When a missile is released, it mostly does its own thing BECAUSE it flies so fast that the delay in reaction from an RC signal could cause a flight path error resulting in a miss.

12) The heat seeking capability (a no brainer for a HUGE IR signal like Airliner engines) is NOT exclusive in flight path targeting. An on board computer also has trajectory computation of the target. The target is LOCKED or it isn't. If it's NOT LOCKED, the missile does not explode. Yes, they have proximity destruction mechanisms that explode the missile before it hits. The reason for that is that missiles are delicate devices and they might NOT explode if the hit the target before they explode.

The downing of the airliner was NO MISTAKE.

The air traffic controllers SAW IT HAPPEN with conflict alert going off a minute or so before it happened. The new vector given to the flight could have been a "vector for traffic: 12:00 o'clock altitude unknown" (a LIE). ATC is COMPLICIT here JUST AS IT WAS on 9/11. The pilot would turn to the new heading - he has no choice unless he claims the new heading will send him into bad weather and asks for another heading.

UPDATE: I checked the flight path on MH17 and he MUST have been vectored for some other reason tha "traffic" because it's a LARGE deviation and a constant one. If they told him it was for weather and he didn't see it on his radar, they would have difficulties getting him to obey. The pilot  knew damned good and well where the war is going on and would question it. SO, the best way to get him to "deviate" is to calim CAT (clear air turbulence reports) on is planned rout. You can't see that on radar and it CAN tear an airplaner apart so the pilot WOULD comply. Those atc tapes make the atc person look like he was just doing his job, rather than setting up the bird for a plausible deniability kill operation.

The Crew had a warning, (NOT when the fighter was beneath them as long as the trajectory of the fighter was not angled at the big bird - but the instant the fighter locked on to the big bird, the CAS went off) and MIGHT have said something BUT they had only seconds to react because from lock on to missile launch to impact at a few kilometers is a few seconds.

All this is OBVIOUS **** that the press WIL NOT GO INTO and talks about ridiculous idiodic stuff like the paint job of Putin's plane versus Malaysia Airlines. GOOD GRIEF! Eyesight doesn't have **** to do with downing an airliner at 33,000 feet!


13) The Flight Data Recording on the aircraft is NOT the important one. It will have a CAS or a conflict alert warning but may not have the id or trajectory of the object in conflict. The ATC facility tape of the PVD (plan view display with digitized data blocks of all the aircraft) which is saved for two weeks NORMALLY is where the true evidence is.

Consequently, the Ukranianis have a nice adulterated copy. BUT, the goons that ran this operation could not keep several other nations (like Russia, China and Malaysiai) that routinely monitor the ATC digitized feed from having the whole enchilada. Why doesn't Putin put it all out there? LOL! That's not how this "game" is played. Most people here KNOW that. Our news media KNOWS that. That's why they ask that dumb ****ing, innocent sounding question! Patience is, as you can see, not my strong forte. There is a lot of very clever duplicity being propagated on the downing of this Big Bird. ANYBODY that claims there isn't is INSTANTLY suspect of pushing propaganda, in my view.

You have just heard an EXPERT opinion by a former Intelligence Operations Specialist and Air Traffic Controller. You are free to believe it or not. Still, most people won't believe it unless it's written in the New York Times or they watch it on CNN. Only puny secrets need protection; big secrets are protected by public incredulity. I know how this works. God help us.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2014, 01:53:19 am by AGelbert »
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Re: Fossil Fuel Skulldugggery
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2014, 11:32:43 pm »
"Russia" posts satellite video of moment the Ukrainian BUK-M1 is launched
The above is NOT from the Russian Government. It is disinformation. The IR signature of the fields and the rocket launch are from some other place with no relation to MH17. I've studied it. My AFSC (Air force Specialty Code) was a DUAL AFSC (Intelligence Operations Specialist/Photo interpreter). I was even told I could get a job with (GASP!) an Oil company checking pipeline photos for ruptures.  I'm glad I didn't get to work with MKing! 

 I can read terrain expertly although this video was not that hard to check against the last 12 miles of MH17. It does not Match! But this disinfo video is QUITE CLEVER. Notice how they show a missle launch going WEST to EAST with absolutely NO reference to ACTUAL true north. The idea is for you to ASS-U-ME that true north is the top of the video. It's BS but pretty nifty BS. LOL! The aircraft WAS flying (Heading 118) east- southeast when it was downed but the video, absent orientation, date and Lat Long, would have been of some value IF the terrain and building pattern matched somewhere along the last 12 miles or so of MH17's flight. No dice.

Nevertheless, I'm thankful to Surly for posting that video because the comments section has some very valuable (and truthful because it can be corroborated) information.

So here is what the last 12 miles of MH17 look like and the debris field of the crash with LAT LONG information and a close up. No, you still can't make out aircraft parts specifically but this is where all those pictures of parts and bpdies are coming from so I accept it as accurate.
 

Hat tip to Randy C. for the following videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjKFGV5I6yA&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NePChnsuMNs&feature=player_embedded

Palloy,
You asked why won't Putin just "put it all out there". As you said before, Putin has the trump cards. Yes, I realize this is a VERY deadly game but if you have the best cards, you want to play them at the right moment. The accurate information will be used to KEEP countries from being intimidated by the brutal destruction of MH17 privately. You know that no matter what Russia puts out there publicly, if THEY say it, our f**king media will claim night is day and day is night until the cows come home.

I learned from Knarf that in 1983 we came a hair's breath from all out nuclear war. Only a smart missile launch control officer from Russia refused to launch with the launch signal blaring, not once, but Twice! There's a video on it out there that shows how crazy things get when someone is (US) deliberately escalating tensions in the service of the almighty US dollar. Over 200 million PEOPLE were going to DIE and it's taken DECADES for people like me to find out about it. And I'm SURE most people STILL don't know about it. Those successful cover-ups of close calls is precisely what gave the bastards that ran 9/11 the confidence to pull that bit of murdering crap off!

But don't worry, the truth is NOT going to be buried like it was on 9/11.

POSSIBLE 2016 NUCLEAR WAR TO SAVE THE DOLLAR, DIRTY ENERGY, STOP GLOBAL WARMING and KILL OFF THE "EXCESS" POPULATION TOO!
 



The barbaric BS that is probably IN THE CAN (if the corporate bastards don't get what they want) planned for a possible 2016 nuclear attack and a "brief" nuclear winter to end global warming, ANY resistance to dirty energy or US global hegemony as well as the elimination of millions of "useless eaters" in the industrialized world population (minus the one percent, OF COURSE ) will not take place as long as we all keep blasting it out there that the crazies must be IGNORED for the survival of mankind.

Yeah, the crazies have to be imprisoned too. But for now, the job is to undermine the mendacity of our media that kowtows to corporate, conscience free, 'kill anybody in the way of the modern feudalists' GOONS disguised as "capitalists".


They will lose. However, if they unleash nuclear war thinking stupidly that they can limit it, the term NBL (Nature Bats Last) will take a back seat to the ultimate insanity of NbcBL (NUCLEAR BAT s h i t CRAZIES BATTED LAST). God help us.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2014, 05:01:01 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2014, 06:37:04 pm »
Here's a VERY INTERESTING bit of MH370 information that gives MORE CONTEXT to MH17.  ;)


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Seems there are more 'Plans' for All of We The People of Planet Earth.
 I give you Flight 370.
 Flight 370 'vanished' with 227 passengers and 12 crew.
 Of the passengers, 20 intel people from throughout the world who were the foremost electronic
 warfare experts, were on board.
 Flight 370 received a 'highly suspicious cargo, traced to the Indian Ocean, from the US Flagged
 container ship, MV Maersk.
 The US Seals whom were assigned to protect it, Mark Kennedy and Jeff Reynolds, were found
 to be dead. They were employed by the Virginia Beach secret security firm, Trident Group.
 The cargo aboard Flight 370 was Atomic or Biological materials, diverted by the US Navy to the
 secret air base, Diego Garcia.
 Flight 370 diversion occurred during the time that 'all' of the Spratly Island communications operated by China Mobile were 'automatically' jammed.
 The US Navy was able to divert Flight 370 to its Diego Garcia Base because ER is equipped with a
 'fly by wire' FBD system that replaces the conventional manual flight controls of an aircraft with 'electronic
 interface', allowing it to be 'controlled' like any Drone style aircraft.
 Most think of this as 'remote control'.
 American mainstream media has yet to report or question, let alone, Demand 'disclosure'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNNNb6y2LwM

Consider THIS:
Malaysia Airlines ALSO lost contact with MH17. IF you can usurp the fly by wire computer circuitry of an airliner so it flies like a drone (WE KNOW THAT CAN BE DONE!), you can also disable AICARS (the data link with the company from the flight) by remote control.

NOW, if you ARE NOT HIJACKING A PLANE, how do you keep the crew from KNOWING they are off course and taking measures to OVERRIDE the remote control (yes, that certainly CAN be done!)?

By FAKING the map display (FEEDING IT ALTERED LAT LONGS) on the aircraft! That is child's play if you have fly by wire control and AICARS jamming.  But there's more. An airliner has MORE than one radio transmitter as well as the capability of transmitting an ELT (emergency locator transmitter) signal. The crew did not do that.

The terrain below the normal route and the altered route is not that different to human eyesight so the goons might have been able to fool the pilots that only malfunction was AICARS and everything else was hunky jake. After all, the crew reasoned, we ARE talking with ATC so we are in GOOD HANDS, aren't WE?   

But there is an upside to this. There is NO WAY IN HELL that an airline crew will get fooled anymore. They will have to KILL the crew during the flight to get a repeat of this sneaky scenario.

Yeah, the horses have left the barn, so to speak. Now the airlines have HAD IT with governments and ATC. The TRUST is GONE. For the next generation (if we last that long) the byword will be PORTABLE redundant communication AND even a backup navigation laptop computer capable of overriding on board computer systems the pilots CARRY with them so no matter what kind of computer sabotage is done to the aircraft, the saboteur will NOT be able to make the plane go where they want to go QUIETLY.

IOW, the upside is that the GOONS won't be downing airliners for DECADES unless they are doing it in an all out war where plausible deniability is unnecessary. Of course the old "RC explosives on board" will remain as an option "on the table". Have a nice day.

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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2014, 08:39:02 pm »
Conversation with a Buddhist.

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I think it likely that the remaining hegemons will say -- time to withdraw to the Western Hemisphere (except maybe keep the sea lanes open to Nigerian and Angolan oil). If so, then I think the West has better long-term prospects than the East.

I hope you are right. But the MO of the goons (with a CONSISTENT historical track record) in charge that you are totally ignoring makes your wish look more like a prayer than a serious possibility.

THE MO of the neocon has a LONG history. As a scholar, you probably know it better than I do but you JUST DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. It's time you did.

Let me refresh your memory on how this works:

Richard Nixon was the first (in our country - as far as I know) to espouse the policy of acting super belligerent and crazy as a foreign policy tactic. The purpose is to intimidate the other nation into acting "reasonable" and acceding to our predatory corporate demands RATHER THAN BEING DESTROYED. You need to convince the other nation that you will gladly go beyond the brink even if your economy will be hampered by it! This BULLY policy has gotten more polished but it's still the same basic MO.  Look up some quotes from the Republican speaker of the house (Gingrich). He said NEVER back down. When an opponent attempts to negotiate a settlement agreeable to both, DOUBLE DOWN on the threats. Never admit fault. Never go on the defensive. Always remain on the offensive. THAT is the MO that you want to pretend does not DOMINATE US foreign policy.

The problem with that type of MO is that it leads to WAR if the other party does not back down. It has worked BECAUSE it has been used on WEAK countries for the past few decades. If you think Russia is going to back down here, you just do not understand the situation.

Russia, by the way, STILL has complete underground cities and an extensive plan to survive (as well as possible under the circumstances - they KNOW how to grow food in sealed areas - they did a multiyear study to simulate a closed food system on mars) a full scale nuclear attack. Have you forgotten that?

The people doing this in our country have LOST IT. They aren't PRETENDING to be crazy. They have GONE CRAZY! It's called megalomania born of too many monstrous "successes" like Iraq and 9/11. 

It happened in Germany before WWII. We are there. Only some smart people that can counter them INSIDE our government will avoid WWIII. The neocons BELIEVE, like the crazies Reagan spoke about in the 1980s (you've got to be pretty crazy to be to the right of Reagan!) that "we" can win a nuclear war. They will NOT EVER accept a multi-polar world. That's the reality. We are all in danger as long as they are commanding our government sponsored terrorism.

All that said, I envy your ability to pretend all this is an illusion. That means your stress hormones are probably lower than mine and you will never have heart disease from stress.

I wish it was an illusion. I don't think so. I remember how you claimed Fossil fuels had NOT gamed the playing field against renewable energy in the 1980s as if dirty energy actually WON the cost competition in those days. I gave you all sorts of circumstantial evidence but since it wasn't in the New York Times, I guess you remained unconvinced.

Watch this two minute tape. Accept EVERYTHING on it as true. If you don't, then watch the entire video the clip comes from and you WILL see the evidence for yourself. You were wrong to think fossil fueldom did not screw us back then and continues to screw us now. These people are not stupid; they are evil. But I agree that if this is all an illusion, it does not really matter...

Fossil Fuel Government 2 minute Video Clip from "The Age of Stupid": 
http://viewrz.com/video/fossil-fuel-government

corruptio optimi pessima

THIS is not an illusion:
http://viewrz.com/video/impact-on-the-environment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyizEz9XUs&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2014, 09:12:15 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHH8xQ2Ctg&feature=player_embedded
HMMMMMmmmmmmm.......   ABSOLUTELY no connection  ;D to FOSSIL FUEL PIGGIES OR/AND BANKING OLIGARCHY WESTERN "democracies".....   
 
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2014, 02:45:34 am »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEbiSRFYTZY&feature=player_embedded
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 09:03:58 pm »
Excellent video, Palloy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKoKmUtQXE&feature=player_embedded

To the young lady's closing question,



The neOcon bastards that have used our government to do this HORROR have no humanity whatsoever. Prison is too good for these Wall/War Street GOONS!
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 11:11:12 pm »
This is from a Malaysian airlines A380, not a B777-200ER, but it is a fitting memorial to those on that MH17 ill fated flight. Like all of us on this planet hurtling though uncharted space to who knows what end, we go on until we can't. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcmnkEFKVeU&feature=player_embedded
Fellow humans of MH17, R.I.P.



I wonder, do the murderers of innocents like those in the aircraft above ever have second thoughts about killing for power and profit? It seems they don't.                                
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 at 03:06 PM PDT.

Koch brothers freak out in response to Rolling Stone expose

by Joan McCarter

David Koch, not holding up well under scrutiny. 

Tim Dickinson's  fantastic expose of the Koch brothers in the latest issue of Rolling Stone has gotten plenty of attention. For very good reason: it's a well-sourced, deep dive into the very toxic—literally toxic—  business that earned the Kochs enough money to buy up an entire political party. That and the wrongful death judgement, six felony and numerous misdemeanor convictions, the tens of millions of dollars in fines, and the trading with Iran are all included in the story, well worth your time.
No one has given it more attention, it seems, than the notoriously thin-skinned Kochs. In typical Koch fashion, they don't argue the facts of Dickinson's story. They attack Dickinson, who responds here. Here's the nut of his detailed response.


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Koch, in particular, takes umbrage with my reporting practices.
For the record: In the weeks prior to publication, beginning September 4th, Rolling Stone attempted to engage Koch Industries in a robust discussion of the issues raised in our reporting. Rolling Stone requested to interview CEO Charles Koch about his company's philosophy of Market Based Management; Ilia Bouchouev, who heads Koch's derivatives trading operations, about the company's trading practices; and top Koch lawyer Mark Holden about the company's significant legal and regulatory history.

The requests to speak to Charles Koch and Bouchouev were simply ignored. Ultimately, only Holden responded on the record, only via e-mail and only after Holden baselessly insinuated that I had been given an "opposition research" document dump from the liberal activist David Brock. (This is false.) From my perspective as a reporter, Koch Industries is the most hostile and paranoid organization I've ever engaged with—and I've reported on Fox News  ;D. In a breach of ethics, Koch has also chosen to publish email correspondence characterizing the content of a telephone conversation that was, by Koch's own insistence, strictly off the record. […]

n the main, the Koch responses attempt to re-litigate closed cases — incidents where judges, juries, and, in one case, a Senate Select Committee, have already had a final say. They only muddy waters that have been clarified by a considered legal process.

Dickinson then provides an exhaustive, 14-point taken down of each of the Kochs' complaints about his story, including every instance in which the Kochs do not actually dispute the facts that he has reported, but attempt to obfuscate them and whine about that fact that he reported them. They also don't acknowledge that Dickinson attempted to give them the opportunity to talk to him about his story while reporting, but they refused.

The Kochs clearly do not stand up well to close scrutiny, and clearly are not prepared for it. For some reason, probably because they're richer than god, they seem to assume that they should be able to swoop into our political system and attempt to buy it without being subject to close examination.

That attitude, along with their long history of abusing people, the environment, and the political system, is doing them no favors. They've made themselves the subject of this election, and if Democrats hold the Senate, it will largely be because the Kochs have made themselves such good enemies.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/30/1333457/-Kochs-brothers-freak-out-in-response-to-Rolling-Stone-expose
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10/17/2014 04:08 PM     
How Big Coal    & Big Oil  Control Elections

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We didn't hear "war on typewriters" when the industry disappeared as the Internet emerged, and we aren't hearing "war on newspapers" even though thousands of journalists have been laid off.

 But coal is a different story. Even though the industry supplies just 0.6% of Kentucky's jobs, both the Democrat and Republican Senate candidates are falling over themselves on who can defend it the most.

 Coal isn't under attack because of impending EPA regulations as both Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes and Republican incumbent Mitch McConnell would have us believe. Thousands of workers have been laid off in recent years because of automated production and because production as a whole is down - cheaper, abundant natural gas is taking its place.

Only 11,885 people work for coal companies in Kentucky, down from 75,000 in the 1940s. While the industry fights back against regulations that would protect workers' health, locals love it when they donate money for schools and other public services. And some rural areas of the state do still rely on coal for employment, reports InsideClimate News.

Mountaintop Removal Mining requires many fewer workers:


 Instead of telling the truth about all this, and pointing to clean, renewable energy as a future job engine, the candidates and out-of-state donors stoke the coal card.

How about saying, We can be like Massachusetts which will soon have 100,000 clean energy jobs?

The Kentucky Opportunity Coalition (tied to Karl Rove), for example, spent $750,000 on a 12-week digital ad campaign "to educate Kentuckians on the disastrous policies of the Obama Administration when it comes to the Commonwealth's coal-based economy, reports InsideClimate News.

As usual, we have to look to where the money comes from. Most of McConnell's contributions come from the Koch Bros, the fossil fuel industry and investors in coal plants.

Read our article, While Feds Fund Coal Miner Re-Training, Conservatives Lie in Ads.

Chevron Buys An Election


Meanwhile in Richmond, California, Chevron is hard at work on the local level, making sure the mayor and council members don't regulate its massive refinery there.

 It started in 2012, when an explosion at the refinery sent 15,000 people to the hospital as chemicals spewed into the air. The city sued and has been putting the clamps on the plant.

 In response, Chevron is spending about $3 million in this tiny election to get the "right"  ;D mayor and city council members elected  . It's spent over $1 million on the mayor's race alone, in contrast to the opponent's $22,000. Most disgusting is Chevron's "Richmond Standard" website - a "community news service" that produces propaganda that puts Chevron and its candidates in a positive light, while demonizing the others. 

Thanks to the Supreme Court Citizens United decision, corporations can spend unlimited amounts of money in federal and local elections.

 But the fossil fuel industry has been rigging the system for a long time. Just since 2008, the oil industry spent over $1.1 billion - $961 million to lobby Congress and $146 million on campaign contributions - enough for each member of Congress to get $2 million, according to Fuels America.

Learn how a student exposed Chevron:(at link below)
 
Website: www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-chevron-deluge-of-campaign-money-20141013-column.html#page=1
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More Proof that Mens Rea is the DEFAULT position of polluters while our DYSFUNCTIONAL COURT SYSTEM (unless you are a fascist polluter, of course! )  pretends otherwise.  >:(


Secret Tape Exposes Fracking Industry Playing Dirty

Right-wing public relations consultant/astroturf king Richard Berman probably wasn’t very happy when he saw yesterday’s New York Times. Like the now infamous American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), Berman’s success depends in large part on anonymity. He is known for his use of what’s called “astroturf” groups—organizations that appear to be community or citizen advocacy groups with names like “Center for Consumer Freedom” but are really shell groups for untraceable corporate donations—to attack labor unions, environmental laws, attempts to regulate the food industry and anti-smoking measures. Lately, he’s been a conduit for fossil fuel interests with his Big Green Radicals campaign, based on the mockery and personal destruction of those who advocate for the environment.

But one industry executive had enough. The anonymous executive leaked a tape to the New York Times of a June event in Colorado Springs at which Berman and Jack Hubbard, a vice president at Berman & Company, were soliciting money from oil and gas executives for the Big Green Radicals effort, telling them that they needed to exploit fear, greed and anger, and to stoke resentment against environmentally-minded celebrities. The executive told the New York Times the presentation left a bad taste in his mouth.

Last spring, that campaign placed billboards in a pair of states where the explosive growth of fracking has raised community opposition and demands for more regulation or banning the process altogether—Pennsylvania and Colorado. They mocked celebrities who had records of environmental advocacy such as Lady Gaga, Yoko Ono and Robert Redford. “Demands green living. Flies on private jets,” said the Redford Billboard.” “Would you take energy advice from a woman who wears a meat dress?” said the Lady Gaga billboard. The head-scratching billboard featuring Yoko Ono said, “Would you take energy advice from a woman who broke up the Beatles?”

At the secretly taped presentation, Berman and Hubbard laid out their strategy of playing dirty, saying “You can win ugly or lose pretty.”

Winning ugly is what he specializes in. The BigGreenRadicals website attacks big environmental groups like the Sierra Club, Food & Water Watch and the Natural Resources Defense Council, saying these organizations “have morphed into multi-million dollar lobbying machines that use questionable tactics to scare the American public and policymakers into supporting unnecessary and unreasonable policies.”

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Agelbert NOTE: See Orwell. Also, DON'T hold your breath waiting for some law firm to sue these villains for fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud, libel, conspiracy to defame and libel in the service of profit at the expense of human health from polluting fossil fuel corporations, conspiracy to degrade democracy through mendacious propaganda, misuse of media, violation of truth in advertising (and so on, etc.). THAT is NOT what LAWYERS are PAID to DO in the HANDMAIDEN of FASCISM called the Court System. Get it? Don't worry, if you don't GET IT now, you soon will...   
 


Full article here:
http://ecowatch.com/2014/10/31/richard-berman-fracking-industry-plays-dirty/

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