Renewable Revolution

You are supporting a Trump victory. And actively.

Your "justification™" for Stein, Nader et al gave us the Cheney-Bush Presidency, war in Iraq, "enhanced interrogation," tax breaks for the rich, a corrupted judiciary, foxes in every henhouse, monstrous deficits, the paranoia of Nixon, the ethics of Harding and the good sense of Herbert Hoover... to say nothing of setting  the template for the catastrophic Trump presidency. Which your logic also enabled. Congratulations.Take a bow.

And get yourself fitted for a red hat.

I disagree. It's grossly inaccurate to blame Stein, Nader or Sanders supporters for (s)election results the fascist favoring oligarchy rigged though a combination of gate keeper ballot choices, voter suppression, gamed voting machines and Supreme Court Criminality 👉 from making buying politicians "FREE SPEECH legal" in the 1980s to deciding "Bush beat Gore" in 2000, when they knew that was a bold faced fascist enabling LIE. Maybe it wouldn't have made any difference, it being that Gore was a Clintonite, but the fact is that Nader didn't have ZIP to do with the Supreme Court's FASCIST BUSH ENABLING CRIME.   

That is certainly not Democracy. Anyone that thinks it is needs to have their head examined. But then, you and I used to go round and round at the Doomstead Diner every single time an election would come around with your misplaced faith in the "power" of voting in the USA.

Fine, you keep believing that and keep saying people like me are "the cause" of the Fascist takeover in the USA. If that makes your day. do your thing. I respect your opinion, even if I think you are basically out in left field on this issue. Who knows, maybe you are right and I'm just a dumb assed Fundy Pseudo-Christian sleeper agent for Trump masquerading as a lefty and you have finally exposed my "hypocrisy".
But, you know, to me, that sounds like .

However, I won't waste anymore time arguing this with you. If you plan on buying me a red hat, I suggest you not waste your money, unless you want one for your hero Biden to wear.


I cede the floor to YOU, Surly, when you used to make sense:

Quote from: Surly1 on May 29, 2016, 08:28:56 am

Quote from: agelbert on May 28, 2016, 07:39:48 pm

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FOR 40 YEARS, LIBERALS HAVE ACCEPTED DEFEAT AND CALLED IT “INCREMENTAL PROGRESS"

http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/forum/index.php/topic,6642.msg104661/topicseen.html#msg104661

Well, that is because the real liberals were demonized and ostracized and marginalized and imprisoned through the clever pig man device of labeling them "anarchists" (and other groundless derogatory terms).

We see that same technique alive and well today in the machinations of David Brock and other Hillbots' attacks on Sanders and supporters. But then how did we get here?

I suggest we look first at the Democratic Leadership Council and the sudden lurch to the right, exemplified by class-traitor Bill Clinton who extolled the viability of Third Way politicians and as a DLC success story. Secure in power, the DLC sold off its former values and constituencies for parts, or more to the point, bundled campaign contributions.

Rahm Emanuel was a noted bagman for the DLC. Democrats who adhere to the DLC's philosophy often call themselves "New Democrats." And they have never seen a campaign contribution they didn't like.

And, as a coup de grace, you should know that the historical records of the DLC have been purchased by the Clinton Foundation.

Remember Clinton's strategy of "triangulation?" The net result has been concession after concession to the opposition and promotion of a neoliberal economic agenda favorable to corporations and banksters, including those seeking to privatize public services, while alienating traditionally-allied voters and working-class people. And utter, complete sellout of ordinary citizens.

Yeah, Rahmbo, I got yer "Third Way" right here.

Yep. Triangulation was probably code speech for isolation and strangulation of the CFS reasonable and caring voice of we-the-people on behalf of the wishes of the oligarchic **** driving this country and our species into an evolutionary dead end.

Maybe they knew what they were doing by picking the Bald Eagle as the symbol of the USA...

The Tardigrades will inherit the world from oligarchic human insane greed and stupidity.