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Re: Global Warming is WITH US
« Reply #885 on: May 28, 2017, 06:15:32 pm »
wikiHow to Identify Your Non‐Negotiables in Life

Three Parts:Talking With OthersWriting Your Non-Negotiables DownEnforcing Your Non-NegotiablesCommunity Q&A

Non-negotiables are those beliefs in your life that you would never go against. Having this set of values allows you to live the best life you can, and one that you are proud of. Deciding what these are may be intimidating, but when you talk with others, write them down, and enforce them, you can figure out your non-negotiables and start living your life accordingly.

http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Your-Non%E2%80%90Negotiables-in-Life

Agelbert NOTE: Although crooks and liars have their own version of non-negotiables, like never admitting that they committed a crime or enjoy stealing from people, a non-negotiable to seek is an ETHICAL non-negotiable that reflects your VALUES, not your selfish wants. 

Habakkuk, a minor prophet of the Old Testament, had a non-negotiable (see below) that I agree with.  It is HARD for me to follow. But it IS non-negotiable, as far as I'm concerned. 

Habakkuk's name means to “embrace” or “wrestle.” As is usually the case, his name has something to do with the message of the book.

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Habakkuk Chapter 3:17-19

Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls:

Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will joy in the God of my salvation.

The LORD God is my strength, and he will make my feet like hinds' feet, and he will make me to walk upon mine high places.
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« Reply #886 on: May 29, 2017, 05:56:22 pm »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/29/us/alaska-bogoslof-volcano-eruption/

Highest aviation alert level issued after Alaskan volcano erupts
Joe Sutton Profile


By Euan McKirdy and Joe Sutton, CNN

Updated 8:28 AM ET, Mon May 29, 2017
An ash cloud from the erupting Bogoslof volcano, seen from nearby Unalaska island.

"Lightning in the Aleutians is mostly due to volcanic plumes, as the meteorological conditions for lightning are not common," Freymueller said.

"The combination of lightning and seismic data allowed us to go to red within about half an hour of the start of the eruption."

The eruption lasted for about 50 minutes, the AVO said.


Flight path concern

The volcano sits under the flight path of many flights from Asia to North America and its ash cloud could adversely affect aircraft. "Ash and aircraft do not mix, as volcanic ash is abrasive, melts at jet engine temperatures, and can cause engine failure," according to the United States Geological Survey.

Aircraft are often instructed to fly around or over ash clouds, although in some circumstances air traffic has been grounded due to the hazards from airborne ash. In 2010 the eruption of the Eyjafjallajokull volcano in Iceland caused the cancellation of flights around Europe for six days.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) last week said that flights were being rerouted around a similar ash cloud when the volcano previously erupted, according to CNN partner CBC.

'Heightened state of unrest'

An image taken by AVO scientists around 14 minutes after the start of the eruption, from nearby Unalaska Island, showed a large white-gray mushroom cloud form over the site. Ash fallout was occurring to the west of the site, according to AVO.

Bogoslof volcano remains at a heightened state of unrest and in an unpredictable condition," according to a report issued by the Observatory, which added that "additional explosions producing high-altitude volcanic clouds could occur at any time."


Bogoslof volcano

It warns that continuing low-level activity could "pose a hazard in the immediate vicinity of the volcano."

Previous volcanic activity earlier in 2017 "significantly changed the shape and coastline of the island" and the land mass tripled in size between early 2015 and January of this year.

There have been eight documented eruption events at Bogoslof, the most recent one in 1992. Previous eruption events have lasted weeks to months, according to the AVO. This current eruption sequence started in December, 2016.


   

On the bright side, if she blows big time, all those aerosols will slow down global warming for a few years.   8)
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« Reply #887 on: May 29, 2017, 07:14:05 pm »


We can’t count on trees to solve our global warming mess — there’s just too much CO2 out there

LAST UPDATED ON MAY 29TH, 2017 AT 5:10 PM BY TIBI PUIU

SNIPPET:

Massive reforestation can’t save us from runaway global warming, despite what intuition might tell us. According to a recent study which simulated CO2 removal from a biosphere point of view, biomass plantations would be inadequate in steering us away from a potentially disastrous 2 degrees Celsius global warming scenario. Instead, we have to cut off fossil fuels immediately and plant biomass at the same time if we’re to have a winning shot at this.

Trees don’t overestimate them

We all know deforestation is running rampant all over the world. According to the World Resources Institute, more than 80 percent of the Earth’s natural forests already have been destroyed. Up to 90 percent of West Africa’s coastal rain forests have disappeared since 1900. This destruction is continuing on a daily basis. The U.S. State Department estimates that forests four times the size of Switzerland are lost each year because of clearing and degradation. That’s because every year our cities grow bigger, and so do our crop fields and industrial centers to support an ever growing and affluent population.

Here’s what the forest cover in Central Europe used to look like some 1,100 years ago.

Credit: Michael Williams (2006) – Deforesting the Earth From Prehistory to Global Crisis, An Abridgment. University Of Chicago Press.

Trees are incredibly useful. They provide shelter and food for millions of species, enrich the soil, and — perhaps most importantly — suck out CO2 and expel O2. That’s literally the reverse of human respiration and for millions of years, this delicate interplay has worked out just fine for everyone. But then humans started digging and burning billions of tonnes of carbon that was stored in the crust for ages. Coupled with massive deforestation, human activity has released so many greenhouse gases into the atmosphere that the world is now nearly 1 degree Celsius warmer than at the start of the Industrial Revolution.

Though alarmed, some people might feel comfortable knowing that we can always replant our forests to offset all the damage we’ve caused in the last 150 years. But that’s just wishful thinking, according to an international team of researchers who simulated what would happen if we grew biomass under three scenarios: business as usual (unabated burning of fossil fuel resources), Paris Agreement (190+ countries pledged to reduce or cap emissions on a case by case basis. For instance, the U.S.  pledged to lower emissions by at least 26 percent below 2005 levels by 2025), and very ambitious CO2 reductions.

The team found that if we continue to burn fossil fuels at this current rate, the number of trees we’d need to plant would be simply staggering and impractical. Even if we’d plant nothing but poplar trees or switchgrass, which have some of the highest density of stored biomass (50% carbon), under this scenario the size of the plantation would replace natural ecosystems around the world almost completely.

“If we continue burning coal and oil the way we do today and regret our inaction later, the amounts of greenhouse gas we would need to take out of the atmosphere in order to stabilize the climate would be too huge to manage, says Lena Boysen from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK), Germany, lead-author of the study published in a journal of the American Geophysical Union, Earth’s Future.

In the case of scenario #2, even if all the Paris pledgers put their money where their mouth is, we’d still be in trouble. The biomass plantations required by mid-century to extract all that remaining excess CO2 from the atmosphere would be enormous. We’d have to replace natural ecosystems on fertile land the size of more than one-third of all forests we have today on our planet. If that’s not an option, we can always convert a quarter of the land used for agriculture into biomass plantations. But in doing so, we’d seriously jeopardize global food security.

Lastly, if the world was very serious about climate change and ambitiously decided to reduce carbon emissions, then fierce competition for land and food could be less pronounced than in the other two scenarios. However, even in this scenario, we’d have to use high-tech carbon-storage-machinery that captures more than 75 percent of extracted CO2 to limit warming to around 2°C by 2100.  :P

“As scientists we are looking at all possible futures, not just the positive ones,” says co-author Wolfgang Lucht from PIK. “What happens in the worst case, a widespread disruption and failure of mitigation policies? Would [color=greents[/color] allow us to still stabilize climate in emergency mode?” ???

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“The answer is: no. There is no alternative for successful mitigation. In that scenario plants can potentially play a limited, but important role, if managed well.”

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The fact is, there is no simple solution such as ‘planting more trees’ to such a complex problem like global warming.

Consider the following:


http://www.zmescience.com/ecology/climate/trees-cant-save-us/
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Re: Global Warming is WITH US
« Reply #888 on: May 30, 2017, 02:37:26 pm »


We can’t count on trees to solve our global warming mess — there’s just too much CO2 out there

LAST UPDATED ON MAY 29TH, 2017 AT 5:10 PM BY TIBI PUIU

SNIPPET:

Massive reforestation can’t save us from runaway global warming, despite what intuition might tell us. According to a recent study which simulated CO2 removal from a biosphere point of view, biomass plantations would be inadequate in steering us away from a potentially disastrous 2 degrees Celsius global warming scenario. Instead, we have to cut off fossil fuels immediately and plant biomass at the same time if we’re to have a winning shot at this.

Trees don’t overestimate them

We all know deforestation is running rampant all over the world. According to the World Resources Institute, more than 80 percent of the Earth’s natural forests already have been destroyed. Up to 90 percent of West Africa’s coastal rain forests have disappeared since 1900. This destruction is continuing on a daily basis. The U.S. State Department estimates that forests four times the size of Switzerland are lost each year because of clearing and degradation. That’s because every year our cities grow bigger, and so do our crop fields and industrial centers to support an ever growing and affluent population.

Here’s what the forest cover in Central Europe used to look like some 1,100 years ago.

Credit: Michael Williams (2006) – Deforesting the Earth From Prehistory to Global Crisis, An Abridgment. University Of Chicago Press.

Trees are incredibly useful. They provide shelter and food for millions of species, enrich the soil, and — perhaps most importantly — suck out CO2 and expel O2. That’s literally the reverse of human respiration and for millions of years, this delicate interplay has worked out just fine for everyone. But then humans started digging and burning billions of tonnes of carbon that was stored in the crust for ages. Coupled with massive deforestation, human activity has released so many greenhouse gases into the atmosphere that the world is now nearly 1 degree Celsius warmer than at the start of the Industrial Revolution.

Though alarmed, some people might feel comfortable knowing that we can always replant our forests to offset all the damage we’ve caused in the last 150 years. But that’s just wishful thinking, according to an international team of researchers who simulated what would happen if we grew biomass under three scenarios: business as usual (unabated burning of fossil fuel resources), Paris Agreement (190+ countries pledged to reduce or cap emissions on a case by case basis. For instance, the U.S.  pledged to lower emissions by at least 26 percent below 2005 levels by 2025), and very ambitious CO2 reductions.

The team found that if we continue to burn fossil fuels at this current rate, the number of trees we’d need to plant would be simply staggering and impractical. Even if we’d plant nothing but poplar trees or switchgrass, which have some of the highest density of stored biomass (50% carbon), under this scenario the size of the plantation would replace natural ecosystems around the world almost completely.

“If we continue burning coal and oil the way we do today and regret our inaction later, the amounts of greenhouse gas we would need to take out of the atmosphere in order to stabilize the climate would be too huge to manage, says Lena Boysen from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK), Germany, lead-author of the study published in a journal of the American Geophysical Union, Earth’s Future.

In the case of scenario #2, even if all the Paris pledgers put their money where their mouth is, we’d still be in trouble. The biomass plantations required by mid-century to extract all that remaining excess CO2 from the atmosphere would be enormous. We’d have to replace natural ecosystems on fertile land the size of more than one-third of all forests we have today on our planet. If that’s not an option, we can always convert a quarter of the land used for agriculture into biomass plantations. But in doing so, we’d seriously jeopardize global food security.

Lastly, if the world was very serious about climate change and ambitiously decided to reduce carbon emissions, then fierce competition for land and food could be less pronounced than in the other two scenarios. However, even in this scenario, we’d have to use high-tech carbon-storage-machinery that captures more than 75 percent of extracted CO2 to limit warming to around 2°C by 2100.  :P

“As scientists we are looking at all possible futures, not just the positive ones,” says co-author Wolfgang Lucht from PIK. “What happens in the worst case, a widespread disruption and failure of mitigation policies? Would [color=greents[/color] allow us to still stabilize climate in emergency mode?” ???

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“The answer is: no. There is no alternative for successful mitigation. In that scenario plants can potentially play a limited, but important role, if managed well.”

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The fact is, there is no simple solution such as ‘planting more trees’ to such a complex problem like global warming.

Consider the following:


http://www.zmescience.com/ecology/climate/trees-cant-save-us/

Considering that trees can self-reproduce, and spread themselves throughout suitable areas for their species, how much more likely is it that replacing FF-fired power stations with solar panels, which are energy-intensive to manufacture, will be possible?  The danger of watching the Dollars instead of the Kilowatt.hours (Energy) should be obvious. 
 

The only thing rather obvious is that you are a study in cherry picking irrelevancy. Self reproduction is NOT the issue, Einstein. The ISSUE is the RATE of self reproduction that you conveniently ignored.

If you were seriously debating this issue (which you certainly are not), you would bring up duckweed, which can double it's population every 48 hours or so. Duckweed (e.g. Lemna minor - there are several species) also has a longer growing season and greater temperature tolerance than any tree. IOW, it can grow where trees grow AND in gigantic swaths of the planet where trees cannot grow. However, there are problems with the duckweed approach that, again, require a multifaceted, multidisciplinary biosphere remediation approach that, of course, requires, as a sine qua non part of the approach, a 100% transition to Renewable Energy within a decade or so to actually give us a fighting chance to make it through the Catastrophic climate years now upon us.
 
But you are merely trying to throw mud at solar panel technology, and just found another duplicitous way to pitch your ATTACK on Renewable Energy in defense of the UNSUSTAINABLE fossil fuel "real world" polluting status quo. It's really quite clever of you because your pitch appears to be cheerleading nature in general and trees in particular, RATHER than a backdoor attempt to defend the biosphere destroying fossil fuel CO2 producing profit over planet. Nice try!   


As Thom Hartmann recently pointed out, he worried back in 1996 about the issue you fossil fuelers are so fond of repeating ad nauseam. THAT IS, that you need fossil fuels to make solar panels. Guess what, Einstein? THAT AIN'T necessary no more! Solar powered factories NOW can can routinely produce the temperatures needed to make the glass (the highest temperatures needed to make solar panel components).  So your argument is DEAD.

AND, all along I have, as Thom Hartmann and many others have, advocated using fossil fuels to build the renewable energy infrastructure to permanently get off of fossil fuels.  During all that time, people like YOU have claimed, "its too hard" or "the ERoEI is too low" or other assorted foot dragging BALONEY pushed by the fossil fuel crooks and liars.

YOU were wrong with your convenient (for the fossil fuel industry  ;) ) arbitrary narrow focus. YOU are STILL  wrong. Maybe someday, when you actually bring yourself to compute the ENERGY COST of pollution on human health care COSTS, you will get your mathematician head out of your cherry picking ASS and see what a ruinously LOW (as in NEGATIVE NUMBERS!) the ERoEI of any fossil fuel POISON is.

DINNER IS SERVED, PALLOY (see link below  ;D).


Chow down, Palloy!
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« Reply #889 on: May 31, 2017, 05:03:01 pm »
Moscow (CNN)A fierce storm whipped through Moscow on Monday, killing 16 people, toppling thousands of trees and damaging several buildings, officials said.
Eleven people were killed in Moscow and three others elsewhere in the region, said Svetlana Petrenko, spokeswoman for the Russian Investigative Committee. It's not clear where the other two victims died.

State-run news agency Tass reported that 168 people were injured in the storm -- the deadliest in years -- and 146 were hospitalized, according to Alexei Khripun, who leads Moscow's department of health.

Alexander Golod's pyramid in Istrinsky District, Moscow Region, was destroyed by the storm

Of the 108 people who remain in the hospital, 22 are children. Tass said the injuries range from cuts and bruises to head and spine injuries.

"I can't remember within my recollection any other such calamity with the number of dead and injured as big as this one," Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin told Tass, adding that the families of those killed will receive 1 million rubles ($17,760) each.

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CNN meteorologist Taylor Ward said most of the damage appeared to come from strong straight-line winds, with gusts measuring 101 kph (63 mph).

According to Sobyanin, the storm uprooted about 3,500 trees. Transportation was affected in the capital and more than 50 flights were delayed in the region, Tass reported.

A woman walks past a fallen tree on a car after a heavy storm in Moscow.

The surrounding region endured similar damage, with 3,000 trees blown down, 322 cars damaged and the roofs of 42 houses and maternity clinics sustaining damage, Tass said.
In 1998, a strong wind storm hit Moscow, killing as many as 11 people.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/30/europe/moscow-storm/index.html

Agelbert NOTE: Russia just got a visit from the ghost of Climate change Future. Putin had better start paying attention and get his head out of his fossil fuel worshiping ASS.

Predicted Wind Speed increases are SUPPOSED to be modest. But I think they are being overly conservative about the AMOUNT of increase, even though they are absolutely correct about the unavoidable INCREASE. If you have been subjected to any mendacious propaganda that claims Climate Change will produce "slower" wind speeds, be sure and throw this document at those LIARS:
Climate Change Effects On Wind Speed - 3Tier 

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... changes likely will continue. A recent review of historic ... energy production of existing and planned wind ... Predicted changes in wind speeds due to global warming are expected to be modest, but ... els predict stronger surface wind speeds.
http://www.3tier.com/static/ttcms/us/documents/NAWP-July08.pdf
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« Reply #890 on: May 31, 2017, 09:02:59 pm »
 

May 31, 2017

Trump and the Future of the Paris Climate Accord

Climate scientist Dana Nuccitelli discusses the Trump Administration's tendency to embrace fake climate news and the administration's hostility to sound climate change policy.

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« Reply #891 on: June 01, 2017, 08:01:48 pm »
 

June 1, 2017

Trump Pulls Out of the Paris Climate Accord

Daphne Wysham, director of the climate and energy program at the Center for Sustainable Economy, joins Sharmini Peries to talk about the ramifications of the US pulling out of the Paris accord.




http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=19233
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« Reply #892 on: June 01, 2017, 08:33:26 pm »
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RMI Statement on U.S. withdrawal from the Paris Agreement

June 1, 2017  |  By Jules Kortenhorst
Friends,

We are greatly disappointed in President Trump’s decision to pull the United States out of the Paris Climate Agreement.

The Paris Agreement constitutes humanity’s best effort to put a global governance mechanism in place to address the global climate change threat. It is and will remain an unprecedented achievement by nations who have shown the political will to jointly tackle the unprecedented challenge that global warming presents. The withdrawal of the United States will significantly undermine these efforts, as the U.S. is the leading emitter of greenhouse gases per capita. However, we are confident that the Paris Agreement will endure.

U.S. climate action will not go dark. We are encouraged by the efforts of American states, cities, and businesses that strive to reduce emissions and whose efforts will carry on undeterred by this federal decision. In fact, the commitments of governors, mayors, and business leaders to join forces to aggregate their climate actions demonstrate the degree to which the United States will continue to lead on climate even as the federal administration takes a step backward. This effort, which could be aggregated as an alternative NDC (nationally determined contribution) or an “SDC—societally determined contribution,” could seek to show that on many of the most important climate metrics—from share of renewable energy to investment in clean mobility solutions—the actions of states, cities, and companies will keep the United States moving forward, albeit at a less aggressive pace than would be the case otherwise.

The energy transition to renewables and energy efficiency will continue unabated. This is evident year after year, both in the U.S. and abroad. In the electricity system, renewable energy and natural gas together produced half of U.S. electricity supplies last year, while coal made up only 30 percent—the smallest share since officials started keeping track 70 years ago. States from New York to Oregon to Michigan have raised their Renewable Portfolio Standards, which set requirements for utilities to source energy from renewable projects. And corporations signed 2.5 gigawatts worth of long-term power contracts with wind and solar projects last year. While jobs in the coal industry won’t come back, those in solar, wind, energy efficiency, and spin-off industries will only grow. The U.S. solar industry employed 260,077 workers last year, a nearly 25 percent increase in the number of jobs since 2015. Betting on energy technologies of the past is bad for business and bad for jobs.

And in fact, in other parts of the world, leaders fully appreciate the power of this new industrial revolution, and are standing ready to step into the leadership void that will be created by the U.S. withdrawal from Paris. China, India, and Europe, together with all but three countries around the world (Syria, Nicaragua, and now the U.S.) are committed to implementing the Paris agreement even after this set back.

At Rocky Mountain Institute, we will stay focused on our mission to transform global energy use to create a clean, prosperous, and secure low-carbon future, and we work with all willing partners to do so.

Best,

Jules Kortenhorst

CEO

https://www.rmi.org/news/rmi-statement-u-s-withdrawal-paris-agreement/
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« Reply #893 on: June 01, 2017, 09:50:37 pm »
Catastrophic Climate Change is HERE NOW!

The Great Barrier Reef Can't Be Saved 

But don't worry about a thing. Trumpy will make sure it all goes away ....

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« Reply #894 on: June 02, 2017, 01:32:31 pm »
Trump Dumps Paris Climate Accords, Musk Dumps Trump  ;D

June 2nd, 2017 by Steve Hanley

What Trump DID accomplish by today’s grandstanding action:

⦁   Stuck it to the ⦁   global community, our European and Japanese allies, and our friendly rivals in China and India. They spent years negotiating this deal, and they’re staying the course – although they are angry that the testy toddler who somehow stumbled into the White House has walked away from the table.

⦁   Thrilled what’s left of his base – although his approval rating continues to hover at catastrophic levels, and even his strongest partisans are starting to waver.

⦁   Thrilled the looters of the rabid right, like the Mercers and the Koch brothers  , who are pleased they can suck a few more years of double-digit profits out of the American public (aka “Trump’s base” – the beleaguered Midwesterners who’s jobs are being exported and whose safety net is being shredded).

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/06/02/trump-will-pull-us-paris-climate-agreement-four-years/
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« Reply #895 on: June 02, 2017, 02:47:32 pm »
Trump Dumps Paris Climate Accords, Musk Dumps Trump  ;D

June 2nd, 2017 by Steve Hanley

What Trump DID accomplish by today’s grandstanding action:

⦁   Stuck it to the ⦁   global community, our European and Japanese allies, and our friendly rivals in China and India. They spent years negotiating this deal, and they’re staying the course – although they are angry that the testy toddler who somehow stumbled into the White House has walked away from the table.

⦁   Thrilled what’s left of his base – although his approval rating continues to hover at catastrophic levels, and even his strongest partisans are starting to waver.

⦁   Thrilled the looters of the rabid right, like the Mercers and the Koch brothers  , who are pleased they can suck a few more years of double-digit profits out of the American public (aka “Trump’s base” – the beleaguered Midwesterners who’s jobs are being exported and whose safety net is being shredded).

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/06/02/trump-will-pull-us-paris-climate-agreement-four-years/

Mildly encouraging. Lots of support for the Paris Accords among the capitalists. They aren't all stupid. I was surprised at the backlash. I'm sure you read that Elon Musk bailed on his Trump advisory role.

I know you think that Capitalists like Musk, who actually know how to add and subtract in biosphere math, get it. I agree. But the issue is not Capitalism. Capitalism is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Again, I know you vigorously disagree, so I won't belabor the issue.

All that said, what I find encouraging in Trump's profit over planet action(s) is the confirmation of the fascist right wing overreach I expected ever since the Trump fossil fuel TOOL got (s)elected. The latest bit of overreach FORCES the media to DISCUSS CLIMATE Change, SOMETHING FOX NEWS (and practically, though not as obviously, all other Capitalist news networks in the USA AND the world) generally avoid like the "externalized costs are going to eat our profit over planet lunch if we can't pass that buck onto the rubes   " PLAGUE.

Also, this forces idiots that think profit is God to think about how they are shooting themselves in the FACE, not just the foot, by trashing the commons (otherwise known as the biosphere) for money.

As I guessed way back in November, Trumpy has managed to UNITE a rather  disparate group of powerful nations AGAINST polluting the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels. This is a good thing, although I seriously doubt that most people in Texas would agree that banning the production of fossil fuels, with prison sentences for corporations that do so, is a good thing. But THAT is where, INEVITABLY, this is going, Eddie.  And no, this is not something decades away, as you might surmise. Laugh if you wish, but it would be prudent to get OUT of absolutely any investment based on the health of the fossil fuel fascists now. Forewarned is forearmed. I know what I am talking about. Be well and act prudently.
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« Reply #896 on: June 02, 2017, 02:50:01 pm »
Catastrophic Climate Change is HERE NOW!

The Great Barrier Reef Can't Be Saved 


But don't worry about a thing. Trumpy will make sure it all goes away ....

Yeah. I know. It's extremely **** depressing. I never even got to see it. Of course, I'm afraid of Box Jellyfish. When the reef dies, that's probably what'll be left anyway.


I know that Jellyfish are extremely hardy. The collapse of the life producing Great Barrier Reef biome, it being that reefs have such a disproportionately large role (over 90% of fish nurseries are in reefs - the rest are in estuaries) for life in the oceans, will result in effect that may well be far more deleterious than boosting jellyfish populations.

The question is, will the phytoplankton and zooplankton take up the slack to keep fish populations (after the mollusks can't make shells and die in droves so the fish have no food) all over the planet from collapsing (and going extinct) or not? I don't think so. WHY?

Marine Trophic Pyramid


The trophic pyramid has mandatory TEN TO ONE energy math that no species can get around. The food chain BELOW the life forms that feed on it MUST be ten times larger than the one above it or the species above it goes extinct. The reefs system, plus the phytoplankton and the zooplankton, have now been reduced BELOW the thermodynamic requirement of ten times (at least) the size of the predators that feed on it.

Expect over a third or more of all macroscopic (i.e. especially the ones we eat) marine species to die within a decade. The collapse of the Ocean species web is now inevitable (and has been ongoing for at least a decade already, albeit at a slower pace than we will now experience).

Do the math on the size of the Great Barrier Reef versus all the other reef systems on the planet. Then you will see that the Great Barrier Reef is about HALF of all the planetary reef systems in area. That is now practically DEAD.

We know who the Criminals in this profit over biosphere destruction are. It's time we went after them. The planet will be just fine. It is in our best interest to make it illegal to pollute the biosphere, whether it be from burning fossil fuels or other chemical processes the polluters make money off of.

The total of all Reef systems occupy a small percentage of the total surface area of the oceans. But if the reefs die, which is exactly what is happening, and is exactly what has been predicted by climate scientists for DECADES, we aren't gonna make up for that by eating crickets. 
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Re: Global Warming is WITH US
« Reply #897 on: June 02, 2017, 08:00:17 pm »
Three Major States Already "joining" Paris Accord  ;D

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Thursday Jun 01, 2017 · 5:46 PM EDT

SNIPPET:

THE UNITED STATES CLIMATE ALLIANCE HAS BEEN FORMED
The governors of New York, California and Washington in the past hour have announced the formation of an alliance of US states to follow the Paris Accords.  This represents over one-fifth of the US economy, and it is only the beginning of many more states prepared to join.

Once again, a Trump policy will be marginalized.  Still dangerous — but it will be a lot more smoke (literally) than fire.

Full article:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/1/1668055/-Three-Major-States-Already-joining-Paris-Accord
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Re: Global Warming is WITH US
« Reply #898 on: June 02, 2017, 09:34:05 pm »


German Reactions to Trump Paris Accord Withdrawal

SNIPPET:

Martin Schulz, Social Democratic (SPD) frontrunner for the federal elections:

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"You can withdraw from a climate agreement but not from climate change, Mr. Trump. Reality isn't just another statesman you shove away. ... there is no reasonable alternative to a sustainable climate policy. ..."



https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/german-reactions-us-decision-withdraw-paris-agreement
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« Reply #899 on: June 02, 2017, 09:46:07 pm »

 
Climate change will ruin Hawaii, new study finds

LAST UPDATED ON JUNE 2ND, 2017 AT 4:18 PM BY ALEXANDRA GEREA

America’s favorite travel destination, Hawaii, is in for some nasty times.  :(


http://www.zmescience.com/ecology/climate/climate-change-hawaii-02062017/
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