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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #195 on: April 21, 2015, 09:30:39 pm »
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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #196 on: April 25, 2015, 11:07:47 pm »
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When carbon dioxide was at these levels previously in history, polar ice melted and flooded the oceans, raising sea level up to 130 feet higher than today's levels.


Time to Brace for Serious Temperature Rise, Say Scientists

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/26191
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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #197 on: April 26, 2015, 07:14:04 pm »
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I really believe earthquakes are electromagnetically related to pressure … that the pressure is created by electromagnetic differentials caused by earth/solar activity.  :o

Too much positive charge, or too much negative could cause an earthquake.. also excessive human induced frequency could be playing a role.

If electromagnetics are involved, then it logically follows that certain people and animals (and plants) could respond to the pre-earthquake electromagnetic distortions.

http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/i-really-believe-earthquakes-are-electromagnetically-related-to-pressure-that-the-pressure-is-created-by-electromagnetic-differentials-caused-by-earthsolar-activity/






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The lava lake at Kilauea volcano is about to reach its top for the first time since it formed. http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cams/ Above: April 26 2015 339am CDT — The lava lake inside Kilauea Volcano in Hawaii has filled to record levels, and is nearing the top of the caldera which contains the lake.

This rise in lava a month ago led me to make a video telling people to keep an eye on the situation.   No one else was making note or saying anything publicly at the time, and people came to my video telling me that it was “normal”.


The levels started to rise in earnest a few days after I posted my first video.  I then recorded another video on March 28, 2015, showing the rise picking up speed.  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIhU2e30X60&feature=player_embedded
Mezmerizing video!
http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/

Agelbert NOTE: I just went to Google Earth to measure the Kilauea Volcano caldera depth BEFORE it started the fill up sequence. In a mere two or three months it has risen nearly 383 FEET! This is A LOT of LAVA when you consider that the caldera is  about one half of mile in diameter.
Kilauea Summit Cam Overlook
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cams/panorama.php?cam=HMcam
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Rising Kilauea lava lake puts on show for visitors
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28887839/rising-kilauea-lava-lake-puts-on-show-for-visitors

BIG ISLAND (HawaiiNewsNow) –

“The lava lake is rising in Halema’uma’u Crater and it’s putting on quite the show for visitors who have been able to see spattering above the crater rim and the loud popping of rocks as the crater walls expand with heat.
USGS geologists with the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory say the Kilauea summit lava lake is at its highest level since it was formed in 2008. Experts say it began steadily rising Wednesday afternoon and measured at 90 feet below the rim of the Overlook crater Wednesday evening. But Thursday morning, the lava climbed a few more yards and was measuring only about 70 feet from the rim.

“There was a lot of spattering that visitors are able to see from the Jagger Museum observation deck and also a lot of rumbling sounds as the crater walls heat up and the rocks fall into that roiling lava lake below. After the sun sets and the darkness starts to come in, that dramatic glow from the lava lake casting it’s reflection on the clouds and on the plume of gas and ash coming out of there — it is just super dramatic and beautiful. Everybody is just super happy to see this. The action isn’t always like this so the people who are lucky enough to be here right now are really in for a treat this evening,” said Jessica Ferracane, Hawaii Volcanoes National Park spokesperson.

More than 50 people, many of them local residents, gathered at the Jagger Museum overlook Thursday night to catch the breathtaking show.
HVO scientists say it’s unclear whether the lake will continue to rise. They say it cycles through filling and falling.

In the meantime, Kilauea Volcano’s East Rift Zone lava flow continues to feed widespread breakouts northeast of Pu’u ‘O’o. The front of the breakout that is farthest downslope is about five miles from the vent and doesn’t pose any immediate threat to any area communities.”

http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/4262015-lava-lake-in-hawaii-at-record-levels-locals-come-from-miles-around-to-see-rare-event/

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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #198 on: April 26, 2015, 07:14:44 pm »

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Land rising out of the sea in Hokkaido Japan — Rose 50 feet (over 1,000 feet long) OVERNIGHT

April 25, 2015 tatoott@yahoo.com

A massive sudden (1 day) rise of land has occurred along the coast of Hokkaido Japan.

Major global earthquake activity is taking place, and serious crustal movement is obviously underway in the region around North Japan.

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The new land began rising from the sea yesterday morning (April 24, 2015) with just a 1 meter rise  (3 feet), then began rising rapidly, the event is still ongoing as of April 25th into 26th 2015.

The new land mass has now risen over 300 meters high (near 1,000 feet), and near 10 meters wide (30 feet)!  Not ‘small’ by any means, and a very rare occurrence to top it off.

This is being attributed to crustal movement in the area.

VIDEO (in Japanese) at link and several excellent pictures:  

http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/4252015-land-rising-out-of-the-sea-in-hokkaido-japan-rose-300-meters-near-1000-feet-overnight/

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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #200 on: April 27, 2015, 03:19:24 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRPFMGptJE&feature=player_embedded
Drone video (no sound) of Katmandu EARTHQUAKE DAMAGE.
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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #201 on: April 28, 2015, 05:45:21 pm »
Nenana Ice Classic 2015

Filed under: Climate Science
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 — gavin @ 25 April 2015


Unsurprisingly to anyone looking at the exceptionally warm winter on the West Coast of North America, the Nenana Ice Classic had another near-record early breakup on Friday, netting some lucky winner(s) around $300,000 in prizes.



As I’ve discussed previously (last year and an update), the Ice Classic is a lottery that has been run every year since 1917, based on the time and date of the break up of the ice on the Nenana river, some 50 miles from Fairbanks, AK. There has been a historically good correlation with seasonal temperatures in the region, and the long term trend (earlier break-up by about 6.6 days/century) is in line with expectations of overall warming in the region.

2015 was the fourth earliest break-up date based on the nominal calendar date, but actually the 5th earliest if you time it from the vernal equinox (which accounts for leap years and other calendrical oddities). There was an ‘almost’ break up, on Thursday which would not have made much difference, though 2015 would have just edged out 2012 in the time-from-vernal-equinox ranking.

On a year-to-year basis, there is clearly a lot of variability (like the weather itself), and so a near-record break-up date this year isn’t particularly meaningful (just as 2013’s record late date wasn’t either ). But I find this data set an useful example of how one can discuss trends and variability and, occasionally, make interesting predictions:  ;D 

Gavin Schmidt ‎@ClimateOfGavin

FYI, Nenana Ice Classic betting for AK residents open until April 5. Current ice is thinnest since at least 89… http://www.nenanaakiceclassic.com/ice.htm

PS. I have a little side bet going based on whether this year’s result gets mentioned in the contraro-sphere  ;D. As might be expected, late years (2001, 2008 and the real outlier, 2013) get substantial coverage (originally on the late John Daly’s website, and more recently at WUWT).

But last year there was no mention anywhere  ;), and the long term trend, which is the most relevant for climate change, never gets mentioned at all ;).

Of course, this year will be different. Oh yes.
   
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2015/04/nenana-ice-classic-2015/

Agelbert NOTE: UNLIKE the MKing dues paying member of the contraro-sphere, Gavin Schmidt is an objective scientist that doesn't try to twist hard data  to fit the fossil fuel industry agnotology. I use the term "agnotology" because the deliberate parading of outlier years with late thaws coupled with the TOTAL SILENCE when the years have early thaws along with the TOTAL SILENCE about what the data says about the warming trends is TEXTBOOK AGNOTOLOGY (Agnotology: The Making and Unmaking of Ignorance - Part one of six parts ).
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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #202 on: April 29, 2015, 10:25:02 pm »
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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #203 on: May 04, 2015, 01:26:54 am »
Storms of My Grandchildren - Hansen


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One implication is that if we should "succeed" in digging up and burning all fossil fuels, some parts of the planet would become literally uninhabitable, with some time in the year having wet bulb temperature exceeding 35°C (950F).

At such temperatures, for reasons of physiology and physics, humans cannot survive, because even under ideal conditions of rest and ventilation, it is physically impossible for the environment to carry away the 100 W of metabolic heat that a human body generates when it is at rest14.

Thus even a person lying quietly naked in hurricane force winds would be unable to survive. Temperatures even several degrees below this extreme limit would be sufficient to make a region practically uninhabitable for living and working.

The picture that emerges for Earth sometime in the distant future, if we should dig up and burn every fossil fuel, is thus consistent with that depicted in "Storms" -- an ice-free Antarctica and a desolate planet without human inhabitants.

Although temperatures in the Himalayas may have become seductive, it is doubtful that the many would allow the wealthy few to appropriate 6 this territory to themselves or that humans would survive with the extermination of most other species on the planet.

At least one sentence in "Storms" will need to be corrected in the next edition: even with burning of all fossil fuels the tropical ocean does not "boil". But it is not an exaggeration to suggest, based on best available scientific evidence, that burning all fossil fuels could result in the planet being not only ice-free but human-free.  :o

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2013/20130415_Exaggerations.pdf
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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #204 on: May 07, 2015, 03:07:58 pm »
This unheard of here! Especially in May. Never mind the fact that the temperatures in the 80's in early May is NOT Vermont weather, FOR THE LAST WEEK the relative humidity has been between 20 and 30%! It is 89 degrees right now and the relative humidity is 23%. 


This is TERRRIBLE for the plant life. Also there WILL BE a lot of fires. I only had two daffodils flower of over 20 and, although the flowers normally hold up for a couple of weeks, these two flowers wilted in just a couple of days. 

We are now Phoenix north.  :P

IF THIS CONTINUES...
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« Reply #205 on: May 07, 2015, 05:35:49 pm »
This unheard of here! Especially in May. Never mind the fact that the temperatures in the 80's in early May is NOT Vermont weather, FOR THE LAST WEEK the relative humidity has been between 20 and 30%! It is 89 degrees right now and the relative humidity is 23%. 


This is TERRRIBLE for the plant life. Also there WILL BE a lot of fires. I only had two daffodils flower of over 20 and, although the flowers normally hold up for a couple of weeks, these two flowers wilted in just a couple of days. 

We are now Phoenix north.  :P

IF THIS CONTINUES...


UPDATE. The temperature is now 86 (the high was 90  :o) and the relative humidity is now at 16%.  I have lived here almost 20 years and have NEVER seen the relative humidity below 40% unless it is the dead of winter. 


 
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« Reply #206 on: May 11, 2015, 09:29:29 pm »
AG we might be able to agree on a few things here.

TPTB own the major banks.

The banks own or control:

The politicians (all significant western political parties)
All major media.  (Fox, CNN, BBC, NPR, Al Jezeera, WSJ, WP NYT etc) 
The major oil companies, (BP, Chevron, Exxon, Shell)
Hundreds of major corporations, ie. most of the Fortune 500

They also control through their politicians, foundations and funds most scientific research,  most significant NGOs and activist groups.  If a significant social issue is in play that they have an interest in, they are almost certainly controlling both sides of the debate.

If we can agree here it might be possible to hold a discussion.

We do agree that the banksters and their corps are stealing like there is no tomorrow.  I'm not sure you agree that governments are basically their agents in a large part of this theft.  Our major disagreement seems to be that you cannot believe that AGW is just another of their psyops, and I am certain that it is.  That might be tedious to prove but the money trail is there.  It was Peter that first clued me to this.

Likely part of the plan was to structure carbon sequestration and/or taxation in such a way that small and mid cap oils would lose money and be vulnerable to takeover by the large cap oils.  I think they have given up on this.  I could be wrong.

Part of the agenda seems to just be anti US/EU survival.  What is the point of closing a few coal fired plants in US/UK if Chindia is building more than one a week?  And they are very quiet about the Chinese CTL plants.

Yes, FWIW, the Potomac did freeze this year, to within sight of the Capitol. I didn't notice anyone skating yet though, give them a few years to get used to it.

You can pretend it is getting hotter but (for one example of many) as of today my red maples and yellow birches still haven't leafed out! 

As for moving south, we did look into it some,  but my partner wishes to remain employed, and there are no career opportunities for her in southern Appalachia or eastern Texas.  Unsurprisingly, Atlanta, Raleigh, Houston and Dallas (where career opportunities do exist) just do not attract.

Great to see you back Snowleopard.  What a winter that was, am I glad it's over.  ::) ;D

Thanks GO

Winter seems to be done here too, with any luck.   Six months of winter is a little much!

Temps switched from mostly below "normal" to mostly above.  Most of the trees (except yellow birches and some red maples that are usually early) are leafing out and my plums are blooming.

The last of my snowpiles melted away last week.  I'll wait until next week to swap off  the winter tires though.

It is not at all controversial geologically that we are headed into full glaciation.  The cycle will continue, the question is when we get there. 

I guess that's why you can sail through the Northwest Passage now, for the first time in recorded history?

http://www.livescience.com/48105-cargo-ship-solos-northwest-passage.html

So this captain got lucky.  One can Google up multiple accounts of ships attempting the passage that needed rescue. 

Arctic ocean ice thickness and coverage is mostly controlled by wind velocity and direction, then by ocean currents and lastly by temperature.  Most of Alaska was not glaciated at the Last Glacial Maximum and the Arctic ocean was open several times during that glaciation.  .





Guess that's why the ice sheets in Greenland and the Antarctic are melting?

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html

http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/shrinking-ice-shelves/ice-shelves/

Currently the average annual ice accumulation on Greenland runs about 400 GigaTons.  This year is slightly above the average.

http://beta.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/

Antarctic sea ice is currently running 2-3 standard deviations above normal and has broken many all time extent records this year:


https://sunshinehours.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/antarctic_sea_ice_extent_zoomed_2015_day_128_1981-2010.png


There is also the interesting story of the "climate scientists"  in the 2013 Antarctic summer who tried to duplicate the 1913 Mawson expedition with a modern ice strengthened vessel, got stuck in the ice and had to be rescued.  The much less capable vessel of 1913 had no serious trouble.  They were trying to show how much the ice had melted!

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/17277-global-warming-alarmists-stuck-in-antarctic-sea-ice



Send us a little ice age glaciation down our way, we could use the water.

If only I had that power, I'd be happy to oblige!  ::)



Snowleapard,
With your 24/7 evidence free Propaganda laced with "scientific" remarks like "The captain got lucky", you have earned a permanent sign (mendacity expert) painted on your back by Eddie, UB and myself.

As to you "agreeing" with me on corruption in government, the point of my post is that  ANYTHING that rankles the feathers of the fossil fuel industry is something YOU refuse to bring up. Spare me the "China is doing this and Russia is doing that" PROPAGANDA pro-war hysteria while you "tactfully" ignore the destruction of our finances for the benefit of the fossil fuel industry.

Your SILENCE is the issue, pal! And that stack of agonotology based graphs you just presented are a perfect example of your disingenuous double talk.

GO, when your are ROASTING in Boston this summer and your power bill GOES THROUGH THE ROOF TO PROVE IT, try to remember last winter and everything I have posted here calmly explaining why the more extreme winter is an EFFECT of global Warming. The hotter than blazes summer will be something ALSO expected but, OF COURSE, something Snowleopard will "tactfully" ignore while he (pretends to) order another pair of ice skates.   

Go ahead, GO, play kissy face with Snowleopard. And be sure and IGNORE what the scientists at the following web site, staffed EXCLUSIVELY BY CLIMATE SCIENTISTS, say. No need to strain yourself, after all.

But if you REALLY want to know how Snowleopard TICKS, this article points to an online brief course on the Climate Denial MO. 

An Online University Course on the Science of Climate Science Denial Filed under: Climate Science — mike @ 22 April 2015

Guest post from John Cook, University of Queensland

For many years, RealClimate has been educating the public about climate science. The value of climate scientists patiently explaining the science and rebutting misinformation directly with the public cannot be overestimated. When I began investigating this issue, my initial searches led me here, which was invaluable in increasing my understanding of our climate and making sense of misinformation. RealClimate has inspired and empowered a host of climate communicators such as myself to step forward and help make climate science more accessible to the general public.

To further the work of educating the public, and empowering people to communicate the realities of climate change, the Skeptical Science team has collaborated with The University of Queensland to develop a MOOC, Making Sense of Climate Science Denial. MOOC stands for Massive (we’ve already had thousands of students sign up from over 130 countries) Open (available for free to everyone) Online (web-based, no software required) Course.


The course examines the science of climate science denial. Why do a small but vocal minority reject the scientific evidence for climate change? What techniques do they use to cast doubt on the science?

And we examine the all-important questionbased on scientific research, how should we respond to science denial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RedrutZ_G3Q&feature=player_embedded

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2015/04/an-online-university-course-on-the-science-of-climate-science-denial/

Agelbert NOTE: One of the techniques, used BOTH by Snowleopard and Mking, is the resolution reduction trick used in graphing in order to give the appearance of a gradient in the direction of COOLING   . What they do is bring in several million years, something that is irrelevant to what has happened in the last 200 years, but it looks good on paper.  :evil4: 

They also go in the opposite direction to narrowly focus on a temperature record at exactly the spot following a temperature spike. WHY? Because, after the spike is chopped off the graph  :evil4:, the slight reversion to mean, regardless of the FACT that the mean rate IS climbing, gives the FALSE and MISLEADING appearance of a pause. This is pure and unadulterated malice and aforethought (mens rea) disinformation in the servie of the fossil fuel industry. People like this should be imprisoned for life as enemies of humanity and the biosphere. Have a nice day.
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« Reply #207 on: May 11, 2015, 09:51:08 pm »

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/

Brave Climate Deniers everywhere, please ignore the above silly graph by NASA. 

Within a thousand years or so we are going to get cooler with lots of BRRRR glaciation! Hurry, buy a big oil fired furnace now! Snowleopard, Mking and your great-great-great-great (you get the idea  ;)) grandchildren will thank you. 

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« Reply #208 on: May 11, 2015, 10:39:45 pm »
WHY Free Marketers RESIST accepting the FACTS about Global Climate Change.

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« Reply #209 on: May 12, 2015, 12:24:21 am »
UB debunks Snowleopard (sl)!

What a joke to present a graph of the last 18 years to say no warming in that period debunks global warming when those same years contai n all the hottest in history. Since 96. Now go ahead and expand those last 18 years back  the 50 million u say are relevant to show the real picture. And while u r at it lets see the ocean temps in the same period since 96 . Then tell the truth about who has conceded anything.
   


So again u ignore ocean temp talk about temp instead of climate. And tell us that the 50 million year trend is dOwn. But u got to leave out that 50 million downward turning sharply up since we started burning fossil fuels. So sl wtf is the skijump shape of the trend?  Why in the last 1oo yrs the trend ends. Why do u  have to present false graph claiming it goes to yr 2ooo when its only to 1950. Because  the steep climb upwards in the last 65 yrs would put the lie to it. As for your alternative explanation for wandering jetstream it ignores alaska and siberia shorts and t shirt winter weather.
   

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