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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #1185 on: December 14, 2017, 01:21:55 pm »
Agelbert OBSERVATION: I just want to point something out I noticed yesterday on Google Earth. In those hills just west and north of Ventura (where there is still a lot of fire) there are umpteen Fracking pads. Every single one of them (active or not) has several varieties of hydrocarbon gases leaking ALL THE TIME. Hydrocarbon gases are, of course, known to aid combustion...

What goes around is comin' around for those Frackers in California. Maybe these fossil fuel fools will  finally learn to stop Fracking around with mother nature.

...and the Mansions just keep on burning!   


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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-thomas-fire-ledeall-20171214-story.html

LOCAL L.A. Now

'This fire is a beast': Massive inferno keeps growing despite all-out battle

Firefighters try to stop the forward march of the Thomas Fire


Firefighter Chris Black with the Sacramento Fire Department douses flames Tuesday in Toro Canyon in Carpinteria. (Al Seib / Los Angeles Times)

Joseph Serna, Javier Panzar and Matt HamiltonContact Reporters

More than a week after the Thomas fire ignited in Ventura County, destroying hundreds of homes and displacing thousands as it grew into a massive inferno, firefighters are now in a race to protect the pristine coastal communities of neighboring Santa Barbara County before a shift in powerful winds forecast for this weekend.

Across the mountain ridges above Santa Barbara, Summerland and Montecito, firefighters Wednesday were building containment lines, clearing brush, digging breaks and setting small backfires to burn fuel, all in an effort to create barriers to stop the forward march of the fire.

Conditions so far this week have been favorable, allowing firefighters to attack the flames on the southwestern flank of the blaze as it moves west toward the Santa Ynez Mountains.

But the National Weather Service was forecasting sundowner winds blowing southeast at up to 35 mph Friday night, followed by Santa Ana winds Saturday that, at up to 45 mph, could steer the fire toward the southwest.

“When the wind starts pushing it, we can throw everything we have at it and it’s not going to do any good,” Mark Brown, an operations section chief for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, told Santa Barbara residents Wednesday night.

The stakes are high. If the fire moves into Santa Barbara and Montecito, nearly a quarter million residents and 62,000 structures worth $46 billion would be at risk.

Dozers build containment lines as fire approaches

A dozer from the Santa Barbara County Fire Department clears a fire break across a canyon from atop Camino Cielo down to Gibraltar to make a stand should the fire move in that direction. (Mike Eliason / Santa Barbara County Fire Department via AP) (at article link)

“When the wind starts pushing it, we can throw everything we have at it and it’s not going to do any good." — Mark Brown, Cal Fire operations section chief

As firefighters well know, sundowner winds are notoriously unpredictable. The winds occur when hot air from the Santa Ynez Valley rises and swiftly pours over the mountain passes toward the Pacific Ocean, as if a person pressed a thumb over the end of a hose.

“It creates very erratic wind conditions, which are very difficult to predict and very difficult to fight fire in,” said Capt. Brendan Ripley, a fire behavior analyst with the Ventura County Fire Department. “It moves fire in different directions. It changes throughout the day.”

If crews can’t finish the containment line across a roughly six-mile stretch in the mountains fast enough to stop the fire’s march west, firefighters may have to burn the fuel themselves — a risky proposition and a scary sight for residents.

“It’s a proactive approach to fight the fire on our terms instead of on Mother Nature’s terms,” Brown said. “It’s well-coordinated if we do it. We’ve had numerous subject-matter experts put the plan together. It’s been vetted at all levels. All the local authorities have looked at it and approved it.”

Fire officials stressed that this plan would be used only if the weekend wind events occur as predicted and if crews can’t make a stand and fight the fire directly. The controlled blaze would burn up to 4,000 acres and be started when winds are favorable for firefighters.
Massive Thomas Fire Threatens Santa Barbara County
The Thomas Fire, feeding on thick chaparral brush which hasn't burned in generations, approaches homes in Montecito. (David McNew / Getty Images)

Meanwhile, firefighters hoped to slow the blaze by building breaks into areas with less vegetation because those areas burned in the last decade, said Chris Childers, a battalion chief with the Santa Barbara County Fire Department.

About 600 fire engines are jammed into the narrow, winding roads in the Santa Barbara County foothills. Trucks are spraying retardant on grassy hillsides and firefighters are wrapping small, indefensible buildings in protective metallic sheeting that looks like tinfoil to reduce the chances they ignite.

As smoke cleared and visibility improved, a conga line of low-flying helicopters started arriving at a county park in Santa Barbara off Highway 154 to pick up fire retardant. Officials said 33 helicopters and eight airplanes were dropping water and retardant on the blaze.

As of Wednesday night, the Thomas fire had burned more than 238,000 acres and was 30% contained. It has destroyed more than 900 homes in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties since it began Dec. 4 near Thomas Aquinas College in Santa Paula. In its first day, the fire spread southwest, toward Ventura, and northwest, eventually hugging Ojai before pushing to the Central Coast.

With containment lines now protecting Ventura and Santa Paula, firefighters there have been on a “seek and destroy” mission for any lingering hot spots that could threaten avocado groves, fire officials said Wednesday.

“This fire is a beast and you’re gonna kill it,” Martin Johnson, Santa Barbara County fire division chief, told fire crews at a morning briefing. “I have no doubt."

Authorities said it will probably take months for fire officials to determine the cause of the Thomas fire.

Serna from reported from Ventura, Panzar from Santa Barbara and Hamilton from Los Angeles.

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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #1186 on: December 14, 2017, 06:13:43 pm »
Agelbert NOTE: Here is the NTSB video of the El Faro's fatal last journey. What bothers me about this is that they do not say absolutely ANYTHING about the wave size or height. I continue to believe that at least one giant wave hit the El Faro, causing it to sink. The mangled bridge superstructure and the  broken in pieces lifeboat evidences this, yet the NTSB doesn't not want to talk about it.
The lifeboats on El Faro were 65 feet above the water line. From the condition of the lifeboat that was recovered, the evidence indicates a giant wave sank the El Faro.

Yes, the Captain screwed up. Yes, BVS weather service helped him screw up. Yes, the side holes in the El Faro made it less seaworthy in a hurricane. But, they could be secured in fairly bad weather. Only giant waves would be ferocious enough to break open the sealed hatches and overcome the ability of the bilge pumps to keep most of the sea out. I read the entire transcript (not shown in this abbreviated summary) and they were smacked massively several times in the last hour before the ship sunk. You can listen to the mayhem on the El Faro Bridge and hear the forceful catastrophic wave impacts at the link in the following quote:
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NTSB Releases El Faro VDR Bridge Audio Transcript; Opens Investigation Docket

December 13, 2016 by gCaptain

http://gcaptain.com/ntsb-...-bridge-audio-transcript/


Agelbert post with the above article:


SS El Faro. Photo: MarineTraffic.com/

NTSB Determines Probable Cause of EL FARO Sinking

December 12, 2017 by gCaptain

SNIPPET:

NTSB investigators worked closely with the U.S. military and federal- and private-sector partners to locate the wreckage, photo- and video-document the ship and related debris field, and recover the El Faro’s voyage data recorder from more than 15,000 feet under the surface of the sea – which proved critical to the investigation.




Full article:

http://gcaptain.com/ntsb-determines-probable-cause-of-el-faro-sinking/




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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #1187 on: December 15, 2017, 12:39:13 am »
Why the RCP 2.6 scenario is wishful thinking

THIS is what the RCP 2.6 is all about:

QUOTE:

RCP2.6 was developed by the IMAGE modeling team of the PBL Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency.

The emission pathway is representative of scenarios in the literature that lead to very low greenhouse gas concentration levels.    ;) It  is a “peak-and-decline”  scenario; its radiative forcing level first reaches a value of around 3.1 W/m2  by mid-century, and returns to 2.6 W/m2  by 2100.

In order to reach such radiative forcing levels, greenhouse gas emissions (and indirectly emissions of air pollutants) are reduced substantially, over time (Van Vuuren et al. 2007a). (Characteristics quoted from van Vuuren et.al. 2011)

UNQUOTE

https://www.skepticalscience.com/rcp.php?t=3

Agelbert Explanation: First of all the emissions have not shown ANY tendency to slow down yet. But let us say that wishful thinkers (or perhaps fossil fuel industry propgandist status quo defending liars and crooks   ) are counting on a collapse to get the radiative forcings down to the RCP 2.6 level, INSTEAD OF ABOVE THE RCP 8.5 scenario, as they are NOW tracking.

Let us say that on January 1, 2018, we stop all polluting emissions of fossil fuels. Yeah, I know, RIDICULOUS. But here is where you are missing the pitch that the defenders of RCP 2.6 heaven are using. As long as the EVENT when fossil fuels use SLOWS DOWN is somewhere in the future (i.e. 2050) the BASTARDS that push this BALONEY can contiue urging us to burn fossil fuels with the CON that the radiative forcings are going to go WAY DOWN in 2050 and make everything better. That is BULLSHIT.

WHY? Because the radiative forcings DO NOT GO DOWN, as projected in RCP 2.6, just because emissions slow down! How can that be? It IS because CO2 doesn't just "go away" when you stop pumping more of it in to the atmosphere. It STAYS there for CENTURIES.

The whole CON here is the incredibly mendacious claim that there is a DIRECT cause and effect climate warming relationship to emissions. The FACT is that there is about a 40 year LAG. But the defenders of the RCP 2.6 do not want to talk about that.

For those who still cannot wrap their "collapse solves the problem" head around this inconvenient 40 year lag reality, that means that in 2017 plus 40 years - 2057 (if we come to a dead STOP on January 1, 2018 - you know that ain't gonna happen!), the radiative forcings we have TODAY, which are ABOVE RCP 8.5 (the number is related to the W/m2 of radiative forcings) will THEN begin to descend.

Oh, but there is MORE that those fine "honest"  fellows like Palloy do not want to discuss. You see, The radiative forcing scenarios are IRRELEVANT when a runaway greenhouse (several self reinforcing warming loops absent ANY added emissions) is in progress. THAT is where we are already at.

Consequently, for the two reasons I just stated, there is not a snowball's chance in hell that we will EVER get to a radiaitve forcings level of between 3.1 and 2.6 W/m2 by 2100. Our radiative forcings NOW are ABOVE 8.5 W/m2 and they ARE NOT going to go below that for at least 40 years, no mattter what the Palloys of this world otherwise mendaciously claim.

So why to the bullshitters pushing the RCP 2.6 scenario persist? BECAUSE they IGNORE the CO2 already in the atmosphere AND the 40 year lag while they give ALL THEIR ATTENTION (and they want YOU to look NOWHERE ELSE) at the amount of ENERGY generated by fossil fuels each year. That is just plain BONKERS. The other two factors are even MORE important at this stage of the runaway greenhouse!

But, as I said, the method in that madness is to make you and I believe the CON that collapse is going to make everything just dandy. Don't worry about a thing   . Just use that polluting fuel all you want. It's gonna run out soon, real, real soon and it will all work out.

Don't swallow the con. All these fossil fueler crooks and liars want is to keep you USING fossil fuels for profit over planet! Stop using them wherever you can. The only good Fossil fuel corporation is a BANKRUPT fossil fuel corporation.


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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #1188 on: December 15, 2017, 10:35:27 pm »


Latin America, A New Leader in Renewable Energy

December 12, 2017

By Katherine Olalla

Katherine is a Masters candidate at New York University Center for Global Affairs, with a concentration in Energy Policy and Environment. She is interested in sustainable development and renewable energy investment projects.

Latin America’s progress in tackling climate change is excelling and showing that its ambition plans are positioning this region as a new leader in renewable energy. In response to the threats of climate change, Latin America is taking bold climate actions to invest in renewable energy projects and adopting new energy policies to mitigate climate change impacts. As one of the most vulnerable regions to the effects of climate change, many Latin American countries showed their desire for a greener world at the recent United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP23) developing strategic plans to increase the deployment of renewable energy and reduce greenhouse emissions.

First, investment in renewable energy is on the rise as a result of the frequency of natural disasters in the region. In 2017, Latin American countries experienced catastrophic floods, droughts, and storms. Hurricanes like Irma and Maria caused major impacts on the Caribbean islands like Cuba and the Dominican Republic. Hurricane Irma devastated Cuba, 158,554 were displaced from their homes, 980 health facilities were affected, and 95,000 hectares of agriculture land was damaged. Hurricane Maria hit the Dominican Republic dropping 20 inches of rain flooding hundreds of houses. In countries like Peru and Colombia, the number of fatalities caused by natural disasters linked to climate change was even higher than previous years. In Peru, more than 100 people have died as a result, of the magnitude of this year’s floods. In October 2017, Colombia faced the deadliest flood in South America where at least 254 people died in Mocoa town.

Second, many Latin American countries like Uruguay are increasing the deployment of solar and wind energy supporting the reduction of global emissions of carbon dioxide. Scientists predict that greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuels will rise by 2 percent by the end of this year. The rise in use of coal in China this year has been a contributor to this problem. According to National Geographic, there are positive trends showing that Mexico and other Latin American countries are decreasing their emissions. Costa Rica was the first Latin American country to run entirely on renewable energy for more than 250 days, leading by example as the greenest countries in the region.

Read: How Uruguay Became a Wind Power Powerhouse

Third,
Latin America demonstrated leadership at the United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP23) in Bonn, Germany. Countries like Brazil, Mexico and Chile are heavily investing in solar and wind energy. Brazil invested 7.1 billion in renewables in 2015 demonstrating its high potential to transit to a low-carbon economy. While Chile is proudly leading solar energy with the implementation of the biggest photovoltaics plant (El Romero) in the region that has the capacity to produce energy for 240,000 Chilean homes. Chile is also promoting renewable energy at the commercial level as Google Chile gets 100 percent of its energy from this solar power plant. Argentina and Mexico showed their interest in being part of a meaningful change by setting renewable energy targets, adopting support policies and providing fiscal incentives. Mexico excelled by being the first developing country to submit a climate pledge to the Paris Climate Agreement in 2015 and the first one to address adaptation to climate change in its pledge. Mauricio Macri, President of Argentina expressed his support to renewable energy and issued a decree at the beginning of this year to make Argentina generate 8 percent of their electricity from renewable sources for the entire current year.

At the United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP23), main Latin American cities such as Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, Quito, Caracas, Mexico City, and Santiago de Chile participated in global alliances among 25 global cities, where they committed to work harder and implement projects to address climate change impacts before 2020. Colombia and Ecuador were awarded at COP23 for their thriving initiatives. Colombia won the Momentum for Change award for its work with young scientists from the International Center for Tropical Agriculture (CIAT), and Ecuador received the Impulse for Change award for the initiative, Sustainable Agriculture with Inclusion and Participation of Gender.

Latin America’s actions are showing to the rest the world that it is a regional leader for scaling up the use of renewable energy. Latin America appears to be home for some of the most promising renewable energy projects. Brazil, Colombia, and Mexico are already taking advantage of green funds. As we see the world being impacted more frequently by natural disasters caused by climate change, we will see more pro-renewables actions from Latin America.

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/ugc/articles/2017/12/01/latin-america-a-new-leader-in-renewable-energy.html

Agelbert NOTE: I'm happy for Latin America but what they are doing to transition will probably not be enough to avoid more frequent and more intensely deadly catastrophic climate change damage.

WHY?  Because the fossil fuel industry worldwide is in a production binge! Did you know hat there are massive LNG carrier ship traffic jams in the newly expanded Panama Canal? The Canal authority is not allowing more than one natural gas ship a week.

Just a few years ago there weren't ANY of those ships going through the Canal. Now they are backed up there because of all the putput from Frackers from the USA that are exporting all they can. 

Yes, readers, instead of reducing the polluting, planet heating emissions, the fossil fuel industry worldwide has opened the production flood gates. Russia is producing more oil and gas than ever as it continues plans to extract all types of fossil fuels from the Arctic as the ice melts.

Goldman Sachs is saying Big Oil in the USA and Europe had a fantastically profitable year! The pollution business is BOOMING!


What this massive production spike of oil and gas means to the biosphere is that the radiative forcing level from the RCP 8.5 (Representative Concentration Pathway), considered  the "Business as Usual" scenario by he IPCC, is WELL BELOW the actual emissions in 2017. That's right, folks. BUSINESS AS USUAL is now producing MORE than 8.5 W/m2 of radiative forcings. IOW, they are going to have to come up with a NEW "Trump and Putin Business as Usual" Global Warming scenario called the RCP 9.0 (or greater).

The graphic below was our new reality as of 2016. Now at the end of 2017, it has only gotten WORSE.
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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #1189 on: December 15, 2017, 11:29:07 pm »
A number of outright mistakes in your history of RCP-2.6.  ::)

It WAS a peak-and-decline scenario when it was originally called RCP-3PD, but later it was converted to a "viable" scenario that achieved a temperature increase of less than 2°C.  This include a HUGE increase in renewable energy - enough to keep the total energy output increasing at 3% p.a.  The embedded energy in creating this much renewable energy infrastructure was NOT included, because that would have made the total energy fall.  (There is NO SOLUTION that allows total energy to keep increasing.)

The models were calibrated by running them using data up to 1984 and demonstrating that they predicted the same values as the REAL 1984-2014 data.  Therefore they DO contain all the factors that the models contain, including the CO2 lag effect. The lag isn't just 40 years, it depends on the assumptions and under RCP-2.6 it is 32 years. The following decline is very slow, but the peak temperature is +1.6°C.


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AG: "Just use that polluting fuel all you want. It's gonna run out soon, real, real soon and it will all work out. "  

Van Vuuren doesn't exactly put it that way.  It is ME and other Peakists that says it's gonna run out real soon and then we will have kept temperature rise to below +1.6°C, BUT WE WILL HAVE AN EVEN WORSE PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS - COLLAPSE.

It is this bind that our leaders have to face, and there is NOTHING they can do about it, except plan to have us as weak (politically) as possible so that we won't be able to hang them from the nearest lamppost. So concentrate on the right problem, Collapse, not Climate Change.

RCP-2.6 says the quantity of natural gas being produced in 2070 will be three times the current level.  Do you believe that?  Imagine how much gas RCP-8.5 implies.


ALL the scenarios except the RCP 8.5 are "mitigation" scenarios. This "peak and decline" issue is contingent on technology for carbon sequestration THAT HASN'T BEEN INVENTED! The most advanced CO2 scrubbing technology is in nuclear submarines and they CANNOT get it below 5,000 PPM of CO2! They have to surface when it gets to 8,000 PPM (the scrubbing technology cannot keep up) after several months. The "mitigation" scenarios, including the RCP 2.6, ASS-U-ME carbon sequestration technology (the space aliens will give us, I guess  ::)) that NOBODY HAS INVENTED YET to get the radiative forcings down. Don't tell me you did not know that! Yeah, even the RCP 6.0 (QUOTE ... application of a range of technologies and strategies for reducing greenhouse gas emissions Fujino et al. 2006; Hijioka et al. 2008 UNQUOTE) ASS-U-MES that magical thinking!

Who said anything  about ENERGY INCREASING? YOU are the one that won't let that go. I am the one trying to get you to understand that the polluting particles in our atmosphere WILL PRODUCE the radiative forcings that will NEVER descend anywhere near 2.6 even with ZERO production of fossil fuels. You just cannot accept that. Yet, any climate scientist will be happy to explain it to you.

Putin and Trump sure as hell believe they will keep producing oil and gas willy nilly! But you still cannot wrap your head around the fact that radiative forcings will continue to INCREASE for 40 years (at least) even after production of fossil fuels decreases to zip. NO, the LAG is NOT properly accounted for. There are SEVERAL real world conditions ABSENT from ALL the models. You just cannot accept what a self reinforcing global warming feedback loop (i.e. "postive") is AND that there are well over THIRTY of them now in play the models DO NOT account for. And NO, that isn't just from Guy McPherson or Sam Carana, your favorite punching bags; eminent glaciologists have already made that clear.

Then there is the permafrost you don't realize will add one hell of lot more radiative forcings even after, to use your fascinating term, the lack "profitable" exploration for and extraction of fossil fuels makes them "too expensive" and they go the way of the dodo bird around the time your assumed collapse scenario happens


Sorry Palloy, your scenario has more logical holes in it than a piece of swiss cheese.

Give it a rest Palloy. You simply do not know what you are talking about. The fact is that they are going to SOON have to label the "Business as Usual" scenario the RCP 9.0  (radiative forcing of 9.0 W/m2 OR MORE for at least 40 years!) or higher because of the LATEST radiative forcings in 2017. That's right, Einstein, global greenhouse gas emissions are INCREASING (see my note after the Latin America Renewable Energy post below). Your "collapse will solve the emissions and warming" magical thinking is irrational. Clinging to it is delusional. Stop it. Join the real world of biosphere math and stop wishing reality away with a convenient collapse.

Have a nice day.       


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Re: 🚩 Global Climate Chaos ☠️
« Reply #1190 on: December 18, 2017, 06:20:08 pm »

Trump will drop climate change from national security strategy

֍ President to outline new approach in unprecedented White House speech

֍ Obama administration added climate to list of threats to US interests]

Julian Borger in Washington

Monday 18 December 2017 05.00 EST

SNIPPET:

The Federalist website, which first reported that Trump would drop climate change from the NSS, quoted the draft document as suggesting the Trump administration would actively oppose efforts to reduce the burning of oil, gas and coal for energy.
Full article:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/18/trump-drop-climate-change-national-security-strategy


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« Reply #1191 on: December 18, 2017, 08:59:49 pm »

Let it go - the arctic will never be frozen again
Last week, at a New Orleans conference center that once doubled as a storm shelter for thousands during Hurricane Katrina, a group of polar scientists made a startling declaration: The Arctic as we once knew it is no more.

The region is now definitively trending toward an ice-free state, the scientists said, with wide-ranging ramifications for ecosystems, national security, and the stability of the global climate system. It was a fitting venue for an eye-opening reminder that, on its current path, civilization is engaged in an existential g a m b l e with the planet’s life-support system.

In an accompanying annual report on the Arctic’s health — titled “Arctic shows no sign of returning to reliably frozen region of recent past decades” — the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which oversees all official U.S. research in the region, coined a term: “New Arctic.”

Until roughly a decade or so ago, the region was holding up relatively well, despite warming at roughly twice the rate of the planet as a whole. But in recent years, it’s undergone an abrupt change, which now defines it. The Arctic is our glimpse of an Earth in flux, transforming into something that’s radically different from today.

At a press conference announcing the new assessment, acting NOAA Administrator Timothy Gallaudet emphasizes the “huge impact” these changes were having on everything from tourism to fisheries to worldwide weather patterns.

“What happens in the Arctic doesn’t stay in the Arctic — it affects the rest of the planet,” Gallaudet said.

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In an interview with NPR, marine scientist Jeremy Mathis, director of NOAA’s Arctic Program, went a step further. When it comes to the Arctic, Mathis said “there is no normal” anymore: “The environment is changing so quickly in such a short amount of time that we can’t quite get a handle on what this new state is going to look like.”

Using 1,500 years of natural records compiled from lake sediments, ice cores, and tree rings as context, the NOAA report says the Arctic is changing at a rate far beyond what’s occurred in the region for millennia.

“The rate of change is unprecedented in at least the last 1,500 years and probably going back even further than that,” Mathis said. “Not only are we seeing big changes, we’re seeing the pace of that change begin to increase.”

In the NOAA report, Arctic scientists lay out their best ideas of what this shift could mean for the world. Their depictions are sobering.

Take, for instance, the hypothesis of University of Alaska-Fairbanks permafrost scientist Vladimir Romanovsky: So far, 2017 has seen the highest permafrost temperatures in Alaska on record. If that warming continues at the current rate, widespread thawing could begin in as few as 10 years. The impact of such defrosting “will be very very severe,” Romanovsky says, and could include destruction of local infrastructure — like roads and buildings — throughout the Northern Hemisphere and the release of additional greenhouse gases that have been locked for generations in the ice.

The loss of sea ice is already having profound changes all the way down at the base of the Arctic food web. As more sunlight hits darkly-colored open water, more heat energy is retained, and temperatures are rising further. That’s kicking off what Mathis, of NOAA’s Arctic Program characterizes as “an almost runaway effect,” involving a lengthening of the growing season, a greening of the tundra, a surge in wildfires, and a boom in plankton growth. All that adds up to a wide-ranging disruption to patterns that Arctic natives have relied on for millennia.

The effects are being felt further afield, too. “We’re fairly confident now,” Mathis said, that the warming Arctic is “creating conditions where more extreme weather events are beginning to show up in North America.” For example, separate research published earlier this month found a robust link between dwindling Arctic sea ice and an expanding risk of California drought.

The report’s urgent language begs the question: What concrete actions will a science-denying White House take as a result of this new information?

Acting NOAA Administrator Gallaudet said he personally presented the report at the White House last month, adding that Trump administration officials are “addressing it and acknowledging it and factoring it into their agenda.”

That the Arctic is now a relic of a time gone by — the first major part of the planet on a countdown clock — should shock us. It’s one of those facts that those of us who closely follow climate change knew was coming. And with its arrival, it is devastating in its totality.

The loss of the Old Arctic is as close as humanity has come so far to irreversibly transforming its planet into something fundamentally different than what has given rise to civilization over the past 10,000 years. This is a terrifying transition, and one worth mourning. But it’s also a reminder that our path as individuals and as a society is not fixed.


If the Arctic can change this quickly, then so must we.

http://grist.org/article/let-it-go-the-arctic-will-never-be-frozen-again


How come it melted and froze again so many times before?  ???   


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Because the amount of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere would vary up and down (from volcanic activity or the lack of it), although the rates of increase and decrease and back were MUCH slower than the breakneck, planet ruining speed at which HOMO SAPS are stuffing the atmosphere with CO2.

The 6th Mass Extinction Event is here * Geologic History shows why CO2 caused Global Warming before
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Published on Jun 1, 2017

Runaway Climate Change is causing exponential major flooding (happening now) due to more heavy rainfall on Earth, and are taking too much nutrients by rivers into the oceans, creating anoxia events. A deadly purple sulfur bacteria. Too much is never a good thing. It's what made oil deposits happen in the past.

In the past the dinosaurs roamed the planet during the start of an extinction event, now it will be us. The next clever beings might learn in time what we did wrong, maybe not.

The planet might turn into Mars because of nobody being at the controls of nuclear power plants that will destroy the ozone with massive amounts of radiation.

Oceanic anoxic events or anoxic events (anoxia conditions) refer to intervals in the Earth's past where portions of oceans become depleted in oxygen (O2) at depths over a large geographic area. During some of these events, euxinia, waters that contained H2S hydrogen sulfide, developed. Although anoxic events have not happened for millions of years, the geological record shows that they happened many times in the past.

Anoxic events coincided with several mass extinctions and may have contributed to them. These mass extinctions include some that geobiologists use as time markers in biostratigraphic dating. Many geologists believe oceanic anoxic events are strongly linked to slowing of ocean circulation, climatic warming, and elevated levels of greenhouse gases.

Global warming. The biggest story ever. Too big for the general public.  >:(

Agelbert NOTE: MUST SEE video! To skip ancient history, begin at the 32 minute mark.

This video is tremendously educational and instructive because it demonstrates exactly how our scientists accurately determined CO2 levels in the distant past, as long ago as 200 million years, when today's oil deposits are believed to have been formed.

How did they do it? ??? They found 200 million year old fossils of a plant called a Ginko, that did NOT "evolve" AT ALL  ;D, all the way to the present (leaf structure is identical to modern Ginko leaves).

Permian Ginko leaf fossil on left  - Modern Ginko Leaf on right

The Ginko has pores in the underside of the leaves. The number of pores it forms is a function, as has been determined by empirical evidence, of the available atmospheric CO2. IOW, the more  CO2, the more pores.

The fossilized Ginkos leaf pore totals, exactly as the leaf pore totals of modern Ginko test plants grown in increasingly higher CO2 containing atmospheres, evidence 4 times the CO2 level of pre-industrial human civilization. THAT was an ice free world.

HOWEVER, that was NOT a "tropical paradise", as the fossil fuel fascist propagandist crooks and liars want you to believe.

Once the ice is GONE, some death dealing chemical processes begin until just about every macroscopic oxygen breathing life form is dead. It begins with the death of most of the species populating the Marine Trophic Pyramid. HOW? ???

When the ice is gone, the ocean currents that circulate oxygen throughout the oceanic depths in a 500 year cycle come to a HALT. This makes more and more parts of the ocean anoxic, so all the oxygen breathers die or flee closer to the still oxygenated shallows.

Meanwhile, the high CO2 levels acidify the oceans, killing off the Oxygen producing phytoplankton (can't make their Calcium Carbonate structure - like mollusks also can't - despite having more CO2 "food" available) that had become widespread with the early initial increase of CO2 levels (see massive algae blooms going on as we speak).

The dead Phytoplankton begin to sink through the shallows, triggering bacterial feeding frenzy activity of a type of purple bacteria that decomposes phytoplankton, hates oxygen, but needs sunlight (it uses the sun but excretes H2S - Hydrogen sulfide poisonous gas, not  oxygen).

So THEN the shallows become anoxic too. Then what is left of the oxygen breathers die. This not "just evolution", as the idiots who compare our fossil fuel based civilization's stupid and suicidal greedy activity to massive volcanic eruptions, as if  humans have as little free will as a volcano, ridiculously claim. But the imbeciles who wish to perpetuate the fossil fuel burning status quo frequently resort to this craven attempt to avoid responsibility for the harm being done.

Allowing the CO2 to get so high that it triggers the death of most marine life is Genocidal Criminal Negligence.



What just happened in the death of the Great Barrier reef is just the beginning of the heating process resulting from too much CO2. There is still a lot of ice. There is still oceanic circulation and oxygenation.

But ALREADY, JUST THE HEAT is killing the most important marine life nurseries in the oceans.


SO WHAT, you might ask. The dinosaurs were around for millions of years. Don't we have lots of time too?   

WHY? ???

Because the RATE we are putting CO2 in the atmosphere is THOUSANDS of TIMES FASTER than when the massive volcanic eruptions caused CO2 triggered extinctions!

When the  ice is gone and that rotten egg  smell from ubiquitous  Hydrogen sulfide poisonous gas reaches your nostrils, expect a VERY brief growth industry in canned oxygen.  But don't expect the Fossil Fuel Fascist "industry"   to admit they destroyed the biosphere for short term profit.

Coming soon to your home: DOOM WEEK ON PLANET EARTH


The Fossil Fuelers   DID THE Climate Trashing, human health depleting CRIME,   but since they have ALWAYS BEEN liars and conscience free crooks, they are trying to AVOID   DOING THE TIME or     PAYING THE FINE!     Don't let them get away with it! Pass it on!   
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« Reply #1192 on: December 18, 2017, 09:22:56 pm »
Based on history, once we max out at +10C and all the sequestered CO2, CH4 & H2S is released, the process will reverse and temperatures will begin to drop again.  Won't happen overnight of course, it will take a few million years probably.

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You will get no argument from me on that future climate stabilization hypothesis.

But it will not do the idiots who triggered a multi-million year disaster in a mere two centuries any good at all.

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« Reply #1193 on: December 19, 2017, 04:13:32 pm »
     


Bob Walker: Governor, get serious about climate change

Dec 18 2017

Editor’s note: This commentary is by Bob Walker, of Thetford Center, who is a community organizer and energy consultant.

An Open Letter to Governor Phil Scott

Dear Gov. Scott,

It’s 3 a.m. and I should be sleeping, but all I can do is think about your comments that appeared in VTDigger from Thursday’s (Dec. 7) press conference, that you are “not sure that there’s a financial threat” to Vermont as a result of climate change.

Have you not seen the climate projections showing Vermont’s winter temperatures similar to those of Virginia or North Carolina and Vermont’s maple trees migrating north out of the state by the end of the century? You don’t think those will harm Vermont’s winter sports and maple syrup industries?

What about the $733 million in damage to Vermont from Hurricane Irene in 2011 and the tens of millions of dollars towns throughout the Upper Valley are currently spending to restore roads from flooding this July? How many more of these storms will it take before you see a financial threat to the state?

And you think Vermont might actually benefit from climate change by the hordes of destitute climate refugees driven here, fleeing wildfires, coastal flooding, hurricanes and severe drought. Wow! I appreciate your looking for a glimmer of hope in the face of this, but all I can think of is Brian Cohen and his fellow sufferers, in Monty Python’s “Life of Brian,” as they kick dance and break into singing, “Always Look on the Bright Side of Life” while being crucified.

Governor, please, climb down off of the cross and get serious about climate change. Stop promoting use of the VW settlement money for “clean diesel” – whatever that is – and direct it instead toward electric buses, trains and charging infrastructure. Support the expansion of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative to transportation. Work with folks promoting the ESSEX Plan to come up with a carbon tax that will make fossil fuels more expensive, while lowering electric costs for everyone and protecting the poor and then work to expand the program throughout the New England states. Support Neale Lunderville’s Warm Home Bonds  initiative to weatherize 10,000 low-income homes in the next three years and then expand that program to homes of middle-income Vermonters. Start supporting sensible wind development in Vermont.

If you’re looking for a financial advantage to the state from climate change, it will be in the thousands of green energy jobs created and billions of fossil fuel dollars no longer leaving the state each year from these changes.

https://vtdigger.org/2017/12/18/bob-walker-governor-get-serious-climate-change/

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« Reply #1194 on: December 20, 2017, 05:31:37 pm »
 

December 20, 2017

Paul Jay: Help Me, I'm Bewildered

Human society is facing an existential threat. Why isn't it at the top of the political agenda? ???


http://therealnews.com/t2/story:20757:Paul-Jay%3A-Help-Me%2C-I%27m-Bewildered#pop1
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« Reply #1195 on: December 26, 2017, 05:31:20 pm »

2017: Technology — 1, Civilization — 0

December 25th, 2017 by Steve Hanley

At CleanTechnica, we celebrate the wonders of science, engineering, and technology. We catalog in detail the advances made in renewable energy and transportation — advances that will make it possible to transition away from a world in which emissions from burning fossil fuels threaten the environment or make us sick.

Yet all the talk of new technology often obscures the larger purpose behind these advances. They amount to little more than invention for invention’s sake with no thought given to the ultimate goal — the improvement of the human condition. Sometimes we need to stop for a moment and take stock of where we are and where we want to go. Yogi Berra said it best: “If you don’t know where you’re going, you’ll end up someplace else.”

American Exceptionalism

People in the United States — after centuries of being steeped in the ethos of American Exceptionalism — tend to believe that America is the greatest civilization the world has ever seen, or ever will see. Yet a report from Philip Alston, a special envoy from the United Nations asked to examine poverty and human rights in America, finds that 40 million Americans live in extreme poverty, with little access to basic human rights. For them, the thought of “liberty and justice for all” is little more than a cruel hoax.

Alston, a professor at New York University School of Law, spent 10 days crisscrossing America from California to Alabama, Georgia, Puerto Rico, West Virginia, and Washington DC. He writes:

“My visit coincides with a dramatic change of direction in US policies relating to inequality and extreme poverty. The proposed tax reform package stakes out America’s bid to become the most unequal society in the world, and will greatly increase the already high levels of wealth and income inequality between the richest 1% and the poorest 50% of Americans. The dramatic cuts in welfare, foreshadowed by Donald Trump and speaker Ryan, and already beginning to be implemented by the administration, will essentially shred crucial dimensions of a safety net that is already full of holes. It is against this background that my report is presented.

“The United States is one of the world’s richest and most powerful and technologically innovative countries; but neither its wealth nor its power nor its technology is being harnessed to address the situation in which 40 million people continue to live in poverty.

“American exceptionalism was a constant theme in my conversations. But instead of realizing its founders’ admirable commitments, today’s United States has proved itself to be exceptional in far more problematic ways that are shockingly at odds with its immense wealth and its founding commitment to human rights. As a result, contrasts between private wealth and public squalor abound.”

Alston was asked by the UN to rank the United States compared to its peers according to standards promulgated by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development. Here is a list of his findings:

By most indicators, the US is one of the world’s wealthiest countries. It spends more on national defense than China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, the United Kingdom, India, France, and Japan combined.
US healthcare expenditures per capita are double the OECD average and much higher than in all other countries. But there are many fewer doctors and hospital beds per person than the OECD average.

֍ US infant mortality rates in 2013 were the highest in the developed world.
֍ Americans can expect to live shorter and sicker lives, compared to people living in any other rich democracies, and the “health gap” between the US and its peer countries continues to grow.
֍ US inequality levels are far higher than those in most European countries.
֍ Neglected tropical diseases, including Zika, are increasingly common in the USA. It has been estimated that 12 million Americans live with a neglected parasitic infection. A 2017 report documents the prevalence of hookworm in Lowndes County, Alabama.
֍ The US has the highest prevalence of obesity in the developed world.
֍ In terms of access to water and sanitation, the US ranks 36th in the world.
֍ America has the highest incarceration rate in the world, ahead of Turkmenistan, El Salvador, Cuba, Thailand, and the Russian Federation. Its rate is nearly 5 times the OECD average.
֍ The youth poverty rate in the United States is the highest across the OECD, with one quarter of youth living in poverty compared to less than 14% across the OECD.
֍ The Stanford Center on Inequality and Poverty ranks the most well-off countries in terms of labor markets, poverty, safety net, wealth inequality, and economic mobility. The US comes in last of the top 10 most well-off countries, and 18th amongst the top 21.
֍ In the OECD, the US ranks 35th out of 37 in terms of poverty and inequality.
֍ According to the World Income Inequality Database, the US has the highest Gini rate (measuring inequality) of all Western Countries
֍ The Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality characterizes the US as “a clear and constant outlier in the child poverty league.” US child poverty rates are the highest amongst the six richest countries — Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden, and Norway.

An Indictment

The list is an indictment of all Americans. We are inundated by stories on the internet telling us the least among us are lazy, shiftless takers — shirkers who have been made into zombies by government programs, deprived of the innate ability to fend for themselves without handouts from “the nanny state.”

This cruel and insulting narrative is little changed from 1843, when Charles Dickens first published A Christmas Carol, a story of avarice among the wealthy and poverty among the working poor. The parallel to America today is abundantly clear. Salon this Christmas Day has published a featured story calling the recent tax reform legislation a Republican bah humbug sort of tax plan.

The perpetrators of this monumental injustice must have been channeling Ebenezer Scrooge when he said, “Every idiot who goes about with ‘Merry Christmas’ on his lips, should be boiled with his own pudding and buried with a stake of holly through his heart.”

Are There No Prisons?

In a country that locks up more people than any other nation, the words of Scrooge echo louder than ever. “Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?” he demands.



Mankind Was My Business
Dickens had words of wisdom for those who place profits above people in their daily affairs. “Mankind was my business!” the ghost of Jacob Marley tells Scrooge on Christmas Eve.


Millions of people have read Dickens’ book and seen either a play or a movie based upon it. All come away praising the author for his insight and saying they were improved by the experience.

But few ever alter their behavior as a result. Instead, they choose to believe charlatans who thump their chests and pound their Bibles while spouting the most hateful, bigoted, misogynistic myths about people — like how all immigrants are terrorists, only stupid people get sick, or burning more fossil fuels is actually good for the environment.

Many people were surprised the other day when the latest SpaceX launch from California created an amazing light show in the sky. Apparently, a significant number of people who saw it believed they were witnessing an alien invasion. Elon Musk seemed a bit surprised.

 
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So strange that people often believe things inversely proportionate to the evidence. Given a set of possible explanations, why pick the extremely unlikely one!?

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Strange indeed, Elon. Unless technology can find a cure for this phenomenon, all the technological advances in the world will not save humanity from itself.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/25/2017-technology-1-civilization-0/
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« Reply #1196 on: December 27, 2017, 04:44:03 pm »

To whom it may concern: My wife's Parents and Brother in Puerto Rico just got their electricty back on after 96 DAYS. They lost it when Irma came by and then lost their phone land line service with Maria.  :( The old folks still do not have land line phone service but my brother-in-law has cell phone service. That is how my wife learns of what is going on down there.

My brother-in-law is the surviving member of a two brother business that sold and repaired jet skis (i.e. personal water craft) and motorcyles (Edwin, younger than my wife but older than his brother Carmelo, died of colon cancer in 2013).

Carmelo is a shrewd businessman. He is also a fossil fueler. ;D But, one cannot pick one's in-laws. :D He has done quite well selling generators since the latest hurricanes. He is looking into the solar panel plus battery pack business but remains unconvinced that he can make as much money with that as selling diesel generators. Let us hope he gets with the Renewable Energy program soon. 


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« Reply #1197 on: December 28, 2017, 02:16:04 pm »
The 2017 Pacific Typhoon Season Saves its Worst for Last: 240 Killed in the Philippines

Dr. Jeff Masters  ·  December 26, 2017, 10:29 AM EST

SNIPPET:

The relatively inactive 2017 Northwest Pacific typhoon season saved its worst for last, as the final storm of the year, Typhoon Tembin, was also the deadliest. Tembin hit the southern Philippines island of Mindanao as a tropical storm on December 22, dumping torrential rains that triggered devastating flash floods and mudslides. According to Philippines news source rappler.com, Tembin (called Vinta in the Philippines) killed 240 people and left 107 missing. This death toll surpasses the 114 killed by Typhoon Damrey in the Philippines and Vietnam in November as the deadliest tropical cyclone in the world in 2017 (though indirect deaths in the Caribbean from Hurricane Maria have been estimated to exceed 1,000.) Fortunately, Tembin weakened to a tropical depression before brushing Vietnam on Monday, causing no deaths or major damage there.


Figure 1. Huge boulders and clay that ran over the village of Mindalano on December 25, 2017 in Salvador, Lanao del Norte, Philippines, due to flooding from Tropical Storm Tembin. Image credit: Jes Aznar/Getty Images.

Full article:
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/2017-pacific-typhoon-season-saves-its-worst-last-240-killed-philippines

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« Reply #1198 on: December 31, 2017, 05:27:07 pm »
Actual measured ice mass loss is WAY ABOVE ANY of the model predicitons!

Watching the planet’s ice sheets disappear—Professor Eric Rignot


Victoria University of Wellington

Published on May 4, 2017

Professor Eric Rignot leads a US research group that uses satellite data to monitor the world's ice sheets. He explains how measurements since the early 1990s show that Greenland and Antarctica are losing ice at an accelerating rate, which, if unchecked, will result in about one metre of sea level rise by the end of the century, and six to nine  metres in the next few hundred years.
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« Reply #1199 on: January 02, 2018, 10:01:30 pm »

The Harsh Realities of Now (Replay)

Posted on December 27, 2017, by Radio Ecoshock
 
SUMMARY: David Wasdell, head of the Apollo-Gaia Project, returns to Radio Ecoshock with devastating revelations about how climate science has been manipulated or ignored by the IPCC, and by the leaders meeting in Paris. We are committed to far more than 2 degrees of warming. A vastly changed world awaits. Radio Ecoshock 151118.  This is the most downloaded Radio Ecoshock program ever!

Are you ready for the harsh reality of our future in a hotter world? Can any of us really handle the truth? If you feel strong enough, this may be the most devastating look into where we really stand. Perhaps you remember UK writer Mark Lynas stunning us with the awful changes on Earth if we warm by 5 degrees Centigrade. We may not survive six.

Many hope the climate talks in Paris can reach an agreement that will save a livable climate, keeping global warming below 2 degrees C. But what if the national leaders are just players on a stage of illusion? What if someone told you our current levels of greenhouse gases already commit us to more than 6 degrees of global warming, and over 12 meters, over 36 feet higher sea levels? And that may not be the worst of it.

I’m Alex Smith with a remarkable interview from London. This is Radio Ecoshock, radio you need to hear. Download or listen to this Radio Ecoshock show in CD Quality (56 MB) or Lo-Fi (14 MB)

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This is a very intense program, with lots of science, clearly expressed for all of us.

David Wasdell

In order to help everyone, here is a “.pdf” rough transcript of this program, including all the science David lays out. Please feel free to dive in for yourself, add you comments to this blog, and forward both the program and the .pdf transcript as widely as possible. Just copy and paste this address in your browser.

http://www.ecoshock.net/downloads/Wasdell_Ecoshock_Transcript.pdf

Or download it to your computer.

David’s full presentation online is called: “Climate Dynamics: Facing the Harsh Realities of Now – Climate Sensitivity, Target Temperature & the Carbon Budget: Guidelines for Strategic Action”

It’s simple. Go to this page at apollo-gaia.org.

If you click on the headshot of David Wasdell, you will get a video, 1 hour 16 minutes long, as David explains where we are right now in the climate, and where we are going. It has graphs that make it seem simple, even though he deals with cutting-edge science. If this recorded video conference seems to stop and start, it’s likely you are trying in a period of heavy internet use. Try again at a time when fewer people are on the net.

Of course, one of the benefits of my full-length radio interview of David, is that anyone in the world can download or listen to it. People in countries with low-bandwidth, or poor access, should choose the “Lo-Fi” version, which is ten percent the size of the CD Quality broadcast. That’s also a good choice if you want to listen online.

If you prefer the print approach, click on the title slide to the right of David’s picture. That leads you to the .pdf text to accompany the video, with a full explanation.  Wasdell has gone to great lengths to make this deep science available to all of us. It’s a critical mission. We cannot allow ourselves, or our leaders, to continue using “convenient” science, instead of facing the harsh realities.

All I can tell you is that I’ve heard from over 100 previous scientists interviewed on Radio Ecoshock – the evidence that David Wasdell adds up for us in this talk. It’s sobering, depressing, and maybe yes, liberating. We can only go forward when we know where we are right now.

I’m your dedicated friend, Alex Smith. My thanks to all those who reached out to support Radio Ecoshock this week, who Tweet and Facebook further than I can.  You can find out how to help here.  Please don’t leave support for this program to “others”.

Thank you for being brave enough to listen, and let’s meet again next week with a new program, a new season, a new year.

 
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