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Agelbert NOTE:This post was made about a year ago on another forum in response to a Doom and Gloom prediction of Civilizational collapse by a fellow with the "Monsta666"  ::) handle.

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It is also very prudent to remember that because our industrialised society is so truly unsustainable on so many levels that very dramatic changes must happen for society to regain a balance with nature.

It is also even MORE prudent to NOT assume that collapse is inevitable.

WHY? Because industrialized society is so fragmented in it's energy using processes that a huge segment of it can still continue while another segment blacks out.

The fact that the present overall structure is unsustainable does not justify the assumption that very dramatic changes must happen for society to avoid a collapse. Assuming that one thing MUST lead to the other is incorrect and inaccurate logic.


I have argued and continue to argue, with quite a bit of data, that the reverse is true. That is, VERY dramatic changes, like nuclear war, MUST occur for a collapse to occur.

Otherwise, it won't, REGARDLESS OF HOW BAD THE WEATHER GETS because the fascists have the guns and the high tech murderous toys to kill off the revolting rabble ANY TIME. You just don't want to go there.

You are in denial Monsta666. This is my final attempt to get you to see reason. If you do not admit to the possibility that a collapse WON'T occur based on the robustness of present society to respond to damage and emergencies, then I will continue to post while ignoring anything you post because you are sold on your own ideological position.

As the years pass and NO COLLAPSE occurs, you will be forced to reach for ever more implausible scenarios of how said collapse WILL occur.

When a fossil fuel fascist engineered scare tactic type "collapse" of a large city of a third world economy occurs you will seize on this to yell, THE END IS NEAR! But you will be proven wrong again and again as the system, corrupt as it is, rebounds and continues to limp along, to your chagrin.


Even now, the governments of the world are mobilizing to toughen up their electrical grids. Look HARD at what is going on out there and realize that the trigger, focus and motivator of human affairs now is not financial theory or politics or unsustainable energy infrastructure. All those are horrendously flawed as you, AND I, have taken great pains to point out.

HOWEVER, it's the GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE that is making the idiots clinging to the fossil fuel fascist dystopian modern human power structure to change their ways, not lack of, food, overpopulation, or lack of proper financing.

This is an example of how those governments are sensing that they are in BIG trouble and moving to PREVENT collapse. Pay attention or be proven wrong, Monsta666.

Global Smart Grid Technologies Market - Industry Analysis, Size, Share, Growth, Trends and Forecast 2012 - 2018      

Now at Transparency Market Research Transparency Market Research Report Add "Smart Grid Technologies Market - Global Industry Analysis, Size, Share, Growth, Trends And Forecast 2012 - 2018" to its database.

Albany, NY -- (SBWIRE) -- 07/23/2013 -- The growing need of nations across the globe to reduce the cost of blackouts is driving the market for smart grids. The conventional electrical grids installed in many countries are now aging and this is causing massive electrical blackouts.

Governments of many countries are incurring huge losses in order to maintain conventional electrical grids,[size=1opt] owing to which they are now focusing on smart grid technologies. The market is primarily driven by the growing need of robust electrical supply technologies that cannot be interrupted.

According to a study, power outages and blackouts costs nearly USD 80 billion annually in the United States. To reduce these costs, governments are continuously looking for new technologies which are more effective and efficient.

Browse Reports @ : http://www.transparencymarketresearch.com/smart-grid-technologies.html

Some other factors the market desires include the characteristics of these technologies such as the ability to generate higher quality power and the fact that these are self correcting. However, the market is inhibited by huge initial capital required to set up these technologies and the lack of awareness amongst under developed countries.

Some of the leading companies operating in this industry segment are Alvarion Inc, Ambient Corp, American Superconductor Corp, Comverge Inc, and 3 M Company. This research report analyzes this market depending on its market segments, major geographies, and current market trends.

Geographies analyzed under this research report include

North America

Asia Pacific

Europe

Rest of the World


This report provides comprehensive analysis of Market growth drivers Factors limiting market growth Current market trends Market structure Market projections for upcoming years

Full Story Here:

http://www.sbwire.com/press-releases/global-smart-grid-technologies-market-industry-analysis-size-share-growth-trends-and-forecast-2012-2018-now-at-transparency-market-research-288359.htm

Even the CIA, not known for tree hugging  ;D, recognizes the PARAMOUNT importance of Climate change to damage civilization and is moving to counter it.

CIA backs study into how to stop climate change through geoengineering.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cia-backs-630000-study-into-how-to-control-global-weather-through-geoengineering-8724501.html

MONSTA666, Let the ideology go and open your eyes to the possibility that a TOTAL collapse won't occur.

http://www.envisionyourdreamsllc.com/Golden-Pig.jpg

TOTAL Collapse (Monsta666's theory) probability WITHOUT a NUCLEAR WARThe above GOLDEN pig with wings is officially named the GOLDEN DARWIN AWARD  (presented to anyone with a less than 25% prediction success rate  ;)). Feel free to present it to ME if what I say doesn't pan out. But what's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.  :icon_mrgreen:

Agelbert's PREDICTIONs for 2013-2017:

1. THERE WILL BE NO TOTAL COLLAPSE OF CIVILIZATION

2. THERE WILL BE A FOSSIL FUEL FASCIST ENGINEERED COLLAPSE OF AT LEAST ONE LARGE CITY POWER GRID AND/OR ONE OR TWO THIRD WORLD COUNTRY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

3. BY 2017 AVERAGE WIND SPEED INCREASE OVER THE EARTH AND OCEAN WAVE ACTION WILL CAUSE SEVERE BEACH EROSION AND DIFFICULT OCEAN PASSAGE AS WELL AS MORE INFRASTRUCTURE DAMAGE ON LAND THAN EVER BEFORE IN HUMAN HISTORY.

4. THE FIRST ICE FREE SUMMER IN THE ARCTIC WILL BE IN THE YEAR 2017.

5. PAKISTAN WILL COME TO THE BRINK OF NUCLEAR WAR WITH INDIA WHEN THE INDUS RIVER WATER FLOW SLOWS DOWN DUE TO MELTED GLACIERS (INDIA CONTROLS THE INDUS AND WILL REQUIRE MOST OF THE REMAINING WATER- PAKISTAN IS BASICALLLY A DESERT).


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Re: Future Earth
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2014, 01:59:14 am »
http://www.youtube.com/wa...p;feature=player_embedded
A possible future if we destroy the biosphere.  :(
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Re: Future Earth
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2014, 02:16:35 am »
Another "interesting" scenario if we destroy the biosphere.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...p;feature=player_embedded
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Re: Future Earth
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2014, 10:02:56 pm »
The Sixth Extinction; An Unnatural History

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Re: Future Earth
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2014, 03:46:19 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/wa...p;feature=player_embedded

Signs of a new future are visible everywhere, from China to the US and from Europe to Thailand. Green mobility powered by sustainable energy, clean drinking water for all thanks to nanotechnology, dyeing textiles using recycled CO2. All of this is possible and is happening successfully now! Working together with Cleantech-founder Nick Parker, this film shows what our world will be like in the decades to come.VPRO Backlight travels the world in search of a clean future.

Duration: 60'
 Director: Rob van Hattum
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RADIOACTIVE FUTURE, Letter of apology…

Letter of apology to the RADIOACTIVE FUTURE… Dear Aquarians, Well, we got through that sensationalized 2012 thing and the Earth is still spinning, but I sense that things could be a lot more comfortable for you had we never fooled around with atom splitting, or at least, if after Hiroshima and Chernobyl we would have cut our losses.

We could not have made the mountains and oceans of radioactive waste go away, as you know, (now many centuries after my generation and the one before us tried to ‘fool Mother Nature’) there is still no solution, but conditions on our beloved Earth might well be much more conducive to good health, happiness, economic stability and broad cooperation of her nations if we had stopped that Nuclear Renaissance early in the 21st century.

Many of my peers knew better than to support that backwards movement, and some worked feverishly to ‘stop the insanity’, but [I fear] it wasn’t enough. I know now, that many of the thoughtful anti-nuke/pro-life activists did not even fully understand the technology, but did understand that everything made by man fails and that failures and even small glitches with systems using highly radioactive materials would injure all life-forms for all time, and it was easy for them to understand that such a sentence delivered to everyone for all time, whatever the claimed need, was simply not acceptable.

From my ‘freer perspective’ (if we allow an imagined ’knowing’ from beyond the veil imposed on physicality) I too now clearly see that we, back at the turn of the 20th – 21st centuries never did really ‘**** with nuclear folly’ (**** with your welfare) as some clamed, because in fact, we had a sure-thing. Everyone at the time, save a miniscule percentage of the population suffering from profound mental handicaps, had the intellect to grasp the blindingly obvious facts about nuclear games which are so graphically illustrated in what is left of the world around you and the bodies of the people in your suffering society.

Long before that primitive time early in the 21st century, when the fateful Nuclear Renaissance was proposed, there were mountains of irrefutable evidence/proof regarding the negative aspects of ‘radioactive experimentation’. All humans had measurable levels of radioactive contamination in their bodies, mothers passed it along in breast milk and fathers, through their sperm. Simple lab tests could accurately pinpoint the age of a person by measuring the percentage and calibrating the placement of radioactive markers in teeth and bones. There really wasn’t an argument… The corporate government invented one.

We could all understand the connection, yet some of us used everything at our disposal to put reality out of our minds. In our (my) defense, it was a scary and confusing time. It was the infancy of the age of hyper-information and there were ten counters to every story. Everything that our fathers had counted on for stability was changing, for a while there, it seemed like the whole of society was crumbling… I’m surprised that the race survived at all, though not in very good condition I see.

It may be hard for people of your time (when neuro-empathetic communication is the norm, and ‘privacy’ is only an historic artifact) to imagine, but, back then many people did not think for themselves.

Many of us relied on mainstream news for information and to feed us opinion. Back then, what was called ‘the news’ was (for the most part) actually a twisted form of low class entertainment authored and programmed by ruthless, selfish, money-worshiping corporate enterprises, the same forces that controlled the governments.

As things became extremely confusing and our ability to reason diminished, in large part because of the compounding stressors, including pollutions of many (new to the species) kinds, and not the least of which was propagandized, implanted fear and frankly, measurable levels of radiological contamination from the very sloppy technology at the heart of this matter… some of us fell into apathy and too many others relinquished any remaining hint of critical thinking ability, ‘donned the sheep skin’ so to speak and followed the herd in any direction that the political faces pushed.

As what is now history to you demonstrates, that was a big mistake since the political faces were (could only be) the puppets of the most gratuitously greedy among us. The greed was so extreme that they knowingly sold the well-being of their very own children and grandchildren for bigger yachts.

The country called the United States enjoyed the greatest opportunity to move things in a healthy direction, the powers controlling its government effectively did just the opposite. I know now that it was lazy of me to choose my temporal comfort and to render whole huge tracts of the only Earth uninhabitable, at the price of your health and happiness.

Please know that the news and the leaders assured us that the juice required to fire up TV screens and operate the ski-lifts and casinos flowed necessarily from nuclear generating facilities.

Many among us at the time knew that wasn’t so, indeed, there had been, since at least the mid-20th century, numerous proven technologies which were relatively clean, green and renewable, they were ruthlessly blacklisted, slandered and suppressed.

Actually, we could have lived very comfortably without any nukes and even without burning much more coal, but the situation was not portrayed that way. Even if nukes would have been essential to the provision of our creature-comforts, clearly it would not have been worth the price that you and the bleeding world you have inherited now pay.

For the apathy, the carelessness and the selfish decisions of myself and many of my 21st century brothers and sisters I sincerely apologize from the bottom of my heart. The way I understand it… we can’t go back, we cannot undo the assaults of our mistakes, I wish we could, or at least I wish I had been among those who resisted the nuclear invasion, then it would be much easier to face you now. And you know, we could have stopped it if more of us had just gotten up off our pastry-stuffed butts and said NO!

My generation inherited a world that needed some work, but the planet was still relatively healthy, and a darn nice place to live. Some of the folks of those few generations changed all that with unprecedented speed. Now I can see that the Human race does indeed qualify as intelligent life, yet is not nearly smart enough to fool around with radioactivity without hurting someone, everyone.

Back in the day we did a lot of stuff ‘just because we could’. What a shame. Please Aquarians, if you can find it in your hearts, forgive me, and if you can’t, well I don’t blame you, but please, don’t do something ‘just because you can’ without knowing beyond the shadow of a doubt that the consequences are completely benign.

Sincerely, -
Your Name Here -, One of those who just let it happen -  :(

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Re: Future Earth
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2014, 09:10:57 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/wa...p;feature=player_embedded

If we change, if we act to leave dirty and centralized, political power concentrating energy behind, we will give future generations a chance to live in a Viable Biosphere AND a political democracy.

If we don't, we will perish.

Anthony G. Gelbert

Here's a link to the petition: http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ai3Tb 

Thank you

                                   


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Re: Future Earth
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2014, 08:31:14 pm »
I was over at the "Nature Bats Last" blog recently and found an EXCELLENT  article by Dr. Geoffrey Chia, Cardiologist/Physician as well as his GIFT of a FREE dystopian future novel.

I'm reading it and I recommend it highly.


There is MUCH truth in this novel about the incredible stupidity of "business as usual" among humans projected into the future. Some of the characters sounded EXACTLY like many fossil fuelers! And they are living examples of the "Icecube" Modus Operandi label in the book.  I am also happy this medical doctor (A REALIST, not a "cornucopian") gave the "abandon all hope" nihilists a sound verbal thrashing.   ;D

http://guymcpherson.com/2...on-or-bottleneck-podcast/

I got a huge laugh out of this line (see italics below) in beginning section of the free novel:

ICECUBES IN ROCKETS:
A Future History of Human Folly


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All characters, corporations and companies in this novel are fictitious, although you damn well know who they represent

http://guymcpherson.com/2...on-or-bottleneck-podcast/

We need more people like Geoffrey Chia  in this world.

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Good Joke From Dr. Chia's Free Sci Fi Novel!
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2014, 02:24:50 am »
ICECUBES IN ROCKETS:
A Future History of Human Folly

Page 138
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Urban legend from the Internet circa 1998:
Scientists at a British aerospace firm built a gun specifically to
launch dead chickens at the windshields of airliners and military jets. The
idea was to simulate collisions with airborne fowl to test the strength of the
windshields. American engineers heard about the gun and were eager to
test it on the windshields of their new high speed trains. Arrangements
were made and a gun was sent to the American engineers. When the gun
was fired, the engineers stood shocked as the chicken shot out of the barrel,
crashed into the shatterproof shield, smashed it to smithereens, blasted
through the control console, snapped the engineer’s back-rest in two and
embedded itself in the back wall of the cabin, like an arrow shot from a
bow. The horrified Yanks sent the Brits the disastrous results of the
experiment, along with the designs of the windshield and begged the
British scientists for suggestions.
The British responded with a one-line memo: “Defrost the
chicken.”

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How Western civilization ended, circa 2014
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